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评论来自
darrius
You cannot have the best of both worlds, this weapon has very high top-end and average weapon damage. To add raw stats to it would make it a bit overpowered.
评论来自
Mitercondu
anyone know what kind of level/dmg the guardian dishes out? i mean, I'm pretty sure blizz hasnt taken to handing out summonable raid bosses, albeit for a minute
评论来自
Viprime
Procs very often, multiple times per boss fight. Summons a small green fire elemental that does around 100 dmg a hit on a non debuffed mob, lasting 15 seconds.
Has around 7k ish health.
评论来自
73889
I used ProcWatch in black temple and it recorded 54 procs in 6220 hits, which gives a 0,5 procs per minute. Pretty low imo considering the proc is the only "stat" except the ap.
It attacks for melee dmg instead of fire dmg which would be more realistic since its an elemental.
评论来自
74181
Samboffy what you say makes great sense, yet it being the shard of a demon makes sense to considdering Illidian was a demon slayer.
评论来自
Viprime
So like this proc frequently breaks gouge in PvP but never noticed it break gouge in PvE.. still rather annoying.
Excellent for keeping other rogues in combat tho.
评论来自
74944
Anise of Forte has one, is she the only one or do more people have it? (Judging by the comments more people do)
http://armory.wow-europe.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&n=Anise
评论来自
86342
Great dagger ... Mongoose with it makes it great for pvp
评论来自
zeilon
Well I've kept check on little Ember a bit and last raid I actually checked (webwowstats) how much I gained from him he gave me a 2.3 dps increase which is roughly 32 AP. This was during an entire night in BT btw.
And a 96 AP bonus on a weapon is far from bad imo.
Besides I love the little bugger when he comes to my "rescue" hehe He is up a lot during fights.
评论来自
99096
the main thing about this dagger that builds a gap between it and most other high end daggers is the 1.9 atk speed its the slowest dagger out there which makes it the best for big hits
评论来自
82469
Interesting note:
If you are a shaman, when the Ember of Azzinoth appears it activates a 1 minute cooldown on your elemental totems.
评论来自
133521
imagine a mongoose,crusader or executioner on it:D:X
评论来自
56956
this thing is now appears to proc less, but can proc a few times, and sometimes two at once!. I had 4 minions up in Sunwell!
评论来自
30408
Don't know if it's a bug or the hidden cooldown has been removed but i've had several times double proc of ember after 2.4.2.
评论来自
136440
Is it me, or is this item in some ways a mocking blow to any rogues who were hoping to get the warglaives? I mean, the similar name and appearance are coincidental and have to do with coming from the same source, but it's still pretty funny. Especially when you take into account that daggers are considered worse then swords by many rogues.
评论来自
hlcws
Can the flames proc in Arena?
评论来自
1929
Yeah it seems atm the proc has no cooldown the most ive had up was 5 at once normally its 3 or so
not a bad lil boost of damage i guess
评论来自
Azp2k32
When evaluating this for arena use, remember that these guys operate based on PvE aggro mechanics, meaning typically they will go for healers. These can be very useful to have around to keep enemy healers in combat and all in place of a pet. You can't rely on it 100% but it's a nice bonus. Plus, the bit of spell pushback these can potentially create helps a ton.
评论来自
174478
this weapon sucks...i have same weapons like the guy in second screenshot..and belie me, that red mace is better ( siphon of the nathrezim ) it drops from Supremus in BT
评论来自
penguin1979
The damage the ember does in 2.4.3 is much less than what it used to. I compared it's damage on a few wws's I had.
2.4.2 over 6 min 19 sec it dealt 13,040 physical damage. 92 hits. Avg 123
2.4.3 over 5 min 36 sec it dealt 6,064 fire damage. 65 hits. Avg 87
评论来自
114629
Fun dagger for Mutilate, but be careful with your surroundings. The proc has come at bad times for me before, such as doing dailys on Isle near an alliance and a Shattered Sun Guard. It procced on the killing blow on a mob, and went after the closest "hostile" target, which was the alliance character. The guard did not like that and all in all the dagger got me a dura hit.
评论来自
Kreidain
I managed to pick this up last night and here are my impressions.
This dagger is alot of fun to use. It hits really hard and has a nice slow speed for the main hand. Not only the the top end damage way up there, but the minimum damage is much higher then most daggers so on average you're hitting alot harder. Plus the 64 AP is nothing to scoff at.
The proc on this dagger is a bit of a gimmick but again it's alot of fun to play with. The proc has no internal cooldown so as stated before you can easily spawn two or more embers simultaneously. They don't hit hard but it's free damage. What I find amusing is the embers spawn as level 151 mobs. So there's really nothing in the level 70 range that can kill it. It will always stay up for its full duration before despawning.
You need to be careful with these spawns since they will aggro things a good distance away from you if you aren't fighting something. This can be easily managed while solo so long as you stay alert to what's around you. I had one moment while doing dailies where I had two embers spawn and as soon as I killed my target they took off in two seperate directions, aggroing two more mobs, one of them elite. Fortunately I was able to simply vanish.
In groups, especially certain instances, this can be a big problem as the embers can aggro the next group of mobs before everyone is ready, or worse yet while you're still fighting the last group. You may want to consider using another dagger for trash mobs when you want to make sure about what gets aggro'd.
That being said, this pet can be very handy in different situations. For example, while doing dailies the ember would often run to the next mob I needed to farm, effectively tagging it for me, which is great when there's alot of competition for the daily mobs. Also in PvP its another target for people to worry about, in BGs and Arenas it's especially handy since it will keep the healers in combat so they can't drink. In PvE you can also take advantage of this. While the ember is fighting a mob you can vanish without worrying about said mob resetting. This is great if want to take out elites on your own for example.
评论来自
176454
let mob with steal weapon and then they have minion of their own!
评论来自
Backmask
In 3.01 the ember's damage is going back to the way it was before.
(or scales with attack power but I'm not sure which)
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/Stumpythemagicmuffin/WoWScrnShot_091508_181553.jpg
评论来自
191863
The thing that I find interesting about
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=32471
is that I haven't seen anyone comment on the dagger's attack speed. As a combat spec rogue (not mut btw) the slower off-hand speed on this just rocks. 2.0 attack speed is too slow, and while 1.6-2.0 is standard attack speed for most main hand weapons for a combat rogue, just that .1 second makes all the difference. Also how common is this attack speed? not very common because of it's potencey. For example the only other dagger still usable at lvl 70 with this attack speed is
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=27913
Just some food for thought. If you want to check the relevance of weapon speed relative to dps output, I would advise checking out Theorycraft forums on the subject or check the spreadsheet @
http://www.shadowpanther.net
This is a great rogue resource. ô¿+
Edit: here is one theorycraft post on the subject but please check out the others as you can never be over informed.
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/forums&topic=25830
评论来自
206266
i want to no if u can duel wield this dagger?
评论来自
206266
so can youduel wield it?
评论来自
205739
This item is totally off-limits in instances right now as the proc aggros everything in sight, hopefully something they can fix relatively soon as it's a top of the line dagger.
评论来自
Coca
As of patch 3.0 this dagger is beaten by Messenger of fate for Mutailate dps.
A sad fact as MoF drops from Bloodboil and this dagger is dropped by the end boss.
评论来自
237317
I ninjad this on my mage on my first Black Temple run... everyone was so POed after that. It was a totally noobish thing to do, and I regret it.
评论来自
triggz
Does anyone know if this thing goes ballistic with FoK spam?
When I FoK a pile of trash it usually sets off every trinket and weapon enchant I have at once, if the guy above was able to get 4 procs stabbing 1 person, and the swiping kitty made lots spawn, no telling what AR+BF+FoK could actually do.
评论来自
joh3n
is there a matching offhand?
评论来自
442989
It procced 3 times in about 2 secs for me. proc on Cheap shot, and to auto attacks right after
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone knows anything about the proc?
评论来自
Allakhazam
If this isn't a GM weapon then who ever gets this Dagger will be the greatest Rogue or hunter in the world
评论来自
Allakhazam
It dropped for Last Resort from Illidan.
The procrate is not bad, around 10% from what I've tested, even though it has a 60 second hidden cooldown. The elemental hits for 100ish, at a 1.5 speed for 15 seconds.
More like a novelty thing, still the rest more than makes up :)
Dagger screen -
http://www.worldofraids.com/img/blacktemple/Illidan/shardofazzinoth.jpg
Proc screen -
http://www.worldofraids.com/news/emberofazzinoth.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
What the dmg with ambush whoud be :D:D:D ]:)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Very nice relatively slow MH dagger for dagger-spec combat rogue
评论来自
Allakhazam
Haha. I am a hunter and I have this weapon. I even put +30 int on it. Only had to pay half dkp too. I only use it for pvp when I am MM spec, since you end up in melee a lot more than in pve. I've had this thing double proc in 2v2 skirmish, and its funny as hell to see two little flame dudes running around chasing the healer.
评论来自
Allakhazam
1.9 speed, 106.1 dps...
*faints*
评论来自
Allakhazam
LOL? Ask if I can need? Sorry dude, but....
#1. Real guilds dont roll, they use DKP.
#2. Asking to need lol?
#3. To post abovem asasination, as in mutilate, requires mobs to be poisned, quite a few mobs are immune to poison...
#4. Sadly 99% of the people who posted here will never have that, including me :D.
评论来自
Thottbot
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评论来自
Thottbot
http://www.worldofraids.com/news/emberofazzinoth.jpg
Picture of the proc.
评论来自
Thottbot
i like it how when i ask a question because i don't know, but instead of getting a straight up answer, i get turned down by other people that did not even answer it...=\
评论来自
Thottbot
yea, this has got to be one of the best, if not the best dagger out there for upfront burst damage whether the form of it be muti's or shad step ambushes.
评论来自
Thottbot
The speed on this dagger is 1.9, slower than a lot of other high-end daggers, so this would be the optimal ambush/backstab dagger, even though there is no stats besides Attack Power. Plus, the procs probably not to shabby too, so even though there is no stats, those two things definately make it awesome for a backstab/ambush raiding rogue.
Main is not a rogue, nor a raider, so if I'm wrong on anything, sorry.
评论来自
Thottbot
if your a hunter that is in a guild that can beat illidan stormrage the strongest being in world of warcraft right now you would bee kicked out of the guild for evem offering to spend all your dkp on it.
dude by the time your in the deadmines you should know whats a wepon for what class.............................im a rogue and if you stole this from me id take your black bow of the betrayer. trace your computer code, come to your house, slaughter your dog right in front of you, and delete your character while i tied you up and threw you in an ant pile.
guys this is black temple. if youv even smelled a 25 man you prob are aware that a hunter is a ranged class /sigh still though i cant tell you how many hunters will charge me in EOS.
and with that i have one thing to say
If your a horde hunter chilling around haala feel free to charge me it makes my job so much easier and lol i get a talbuk 2
评论来自
Thottbot
as a hunter why would i ever take this wep? we get so man things with better AP. i would be very happy for any rogue in my guild who got this cause he would be soooooo sick
to all those hunters who say that they would roll on this...learn to play. u give us a bad name and u should think less about urself and more about ur guild
评论来自
Thottbot
Its nice
评论来自
Thottbot
It makes me want to make a rogue right now, lvl him from 1 to 70, raid non-stop, jump into BT, kill Illidan and get this dagger because that Ember of Azzinoth is SO CUTE :D
评论来自
Thottbot
shamans and warriors want slower weapons. if you really downed illidan and rolled on this and you got it then A, you are an idiot. and B, your guild are idiots for giving it to you.
评论来自
Thottbot
Wow. Alright, just to comment on this one, I am a fury warrior, I picked this up a couple of nights ago because it was going to be DEd. I've been playing around with it, and honestly.. it's amazing. I use the Vanir's left fist of Brut normally, and the proc alone makes it worth it, the little fire doods hit for 150-300 at a 1.5-2.0 speed, and I've had 4 out at once.. You do the math. This is a great weapon, even tho it has no crit/hit/Armor pen. I will only use it on bosses and not in 5 mans, but it is worth the drop. Not good for Hunters, Bad Mojo daggers pwn for them anyway, and are hella easier to get.
评论来自
Thottbot
I strongely advise this dagger only for pvp and single mobs, I recently got this dagger on my rouge and the proc is exetremely annoying, it attacks all nearby targets and draws a %^&* load of aggro. It calls for instant death to the user...
评论来自
Thottbot
How about some actual helpful info about this blade instead of hearing fat nerds argue about what hunters should or should not do?
评论来自
Thottbot
when they made the glaives they made this thing with the leftovers
评论来自
Thottbot
I have always stuck to useful discussion about things on here, like the % a weapon procs, best talents to utilize it with, etc. But man I have reached my limit. Do you guys that post really think anyone can make use of threads where people ^&*!@ and moan about about whether a hunter should have it or not? Anyone making such a post is obviously not raiding high level content in the first place. It amazes me how many people respond to such posts, simply give it a negative vote and move on, so everyone else can.
评论来自
Thottbot
Agree.
评论来自
skyyman
They wouldn't let me use this on trash, the ember pulls everything that's close...
评论来自
Azzinothed
Can proc multiple at once.
No internal cooldown.
Each pet can be buffed.
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