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评论来自
Mendo
These are used for the quest to get into the Ethereum Prison, "Ethereum Secrets" and the quest before it. For Ethereum Secrets, you need to get an Ethereum Prisoner I.D. Tag. You need to get a key, and take it to the prisons, unlock it, kill the spawned mob, and loot the tag. The prisons are in the Ethereum Staging Grounds, they are pink bubbles.
评论来自
54396
I was farming around 66, 47 in netherstorm for prison key. Drop rate very low. But I found a special npc that I believe have highest drop rate among all Etherum mob. Name of the mob is: Etherum Jailor. LVL 71 non elite. Similar to avenger but have red glow all over body. He hit very hard. I clean that area for so many times only seen him once. And it drop Etherum prison key for me. I believe is 100% drop rate from this mob but since I only kill him once. So I might be wrong.
评论来自
5757
You dont get I.D. Tags every time, sometimes when you unlock the prison you get a consortium dealer or similar friendly npc, they wont give you their dog tags but they will give you 500 rep for rescuing them, it is possible to get rep for consortium, lower city, and other shattrath factions i think
also you dont have to farm just the guys at the staging grounds, any ethereum guys like the ones at manaforge ultris drop them too
评论来自
30331
Yes they can, as well as being sold on the AH, they are not soulbound.
评论来自
54396
Got 3~4 prison key in mana tomb today. I'm the only one can loot. I think other group member reputation not enough or haven't done pre quest.
Also I can confirm those Zaxxis at south of area 52 drop prison key as well. Drop 2 for me while farming rep there. Drop rate similar to Etherum mob.
评论来自
Luis
The 2 optimal choices for farming these are the Zaxxis mobs if you still need rep
OR
The mobs at Bash'irs Landing. These drop Prison Keys as well as Apexis shards for the Ogri'la quests =)
The drop rate on keys from the mobs on Bash'irs landing seem to be a bit higher for me atm compared to the netherstorm mobs.
Spelltheives however have a dirty amount of magic resist and cast a non purgeable -20% magic reduction buff on themselves
评论来自
3765
I've used the key to open up Ethereum Prison four times now. The first three yielded a mob to fight. The fourth yielded a friendly "Rescued Sha'tar Vindicator". She said, "Blessed Light! Free of my confines at last... Thank You, hero. A'dal will be told of your heroics."
I got a 500 point bump in Rep with The Sha'tar.
Then she disapppered. No I.D. tag or loot since she was friendly.
评论来自
13973
As a note, you HAVE to have done the quest for the salvaged key to get this one to drop. I started this on my mage (gotten the salvaged key), then decided to use my shaman to collect the keys (As my shaman has an epic flyer), however when I fought I Jailor I did not get one. After quickly doing the salvaged key quest, however, I started getting these keys on my shaman.
评论来自
34724
Bash'ir Arcanist just dropped one.
评论来自
Grandomega
Drop rates that I've found.
100% = Ethereum Jailor
3% = Zaxxis Raider
3% = Zaxxis Stalker
These keys are NOT BoP so they can be sold in the auction house. The prisons contain a number of things. Often its an aggresive mob that you can kill for a prison ID, but they can contain friendly npcs that give you rep with one of a few different factions.
评论来自
48128
These can drop of ANY lv 68+ Ethereum mobs, The jailors are an uncommen spawn but have an 100% droprate.
I have find my first of an Ethereum Avanger.
The best way to find these keys are to kill the lv 68-70 mobs around Mana Forge Ultris on the Voidwind Platueas
评论来自
41333
You can get this in Bash'ir Landing in Blade Edge Mountain to.
i got 3 keys while farming for -Formula: Enchant Weapon - Major Spellpower-
评论来自
30861
These keys are for a chain quest line...
first u need to find 1 key and open a prison to get a ID card
next u need to find 5 keys to turn them into the quest guy, he gives u a item to summon a quest mob in BEM.
After u complete that, u must now get 5 more keys to summon a 5 man boss that has a chance to drop a mark that u need to complete the quest.
then u have to goto heroic mana tombs and open a cage that is right past the first boss, then return to BEM.
now you have to find 5 more keys and try to get another mark to summon a Boss in heroic mana tombs after the last boss.
Will post more as i get there.
评论来自
10805
I killed about 800 Zaxxis ethereals south of Area 52 and ended up with 18 keys.
That's a droprate of 2.25%.
评论来自
42324
The droprate seems to have been increased somewhat in the latest maintenance patch - I have heard several people comment on it, and I myself found six keys in the time it took to grind 42 Insignias down at The Heap. It might just be coincidental, or it might just be in that particular area, but I thought it worth mentioning.
评论来自
13494
To my disappointment, I rescued a Sporeling and got 500 rep with Sporeggar. Big time whammy for me. On the up side I did rescue someone from the Cenarion Expedition which was great :)
评论来自
TegoZanduba
These give great loot. Of the 4 I've done so far, I got a top level BoE green, a BoP Blue Fire Resist Cape, and a BoE Blue, and one of the extra 500 rep friendlies. Here's hoping this loot continues.
评论来自
49565
It might be obvious from looking at the drop rates but don't waste your time farming for keys in the main etherium base, they have a horrific 0.5% drop rate compared with around 3% in blades edge where you can use the cheap flasks made with apeixs shards and have a chance at getting depleted items as well.
评论来自
53131
yesterday i had like 6 keys in 20mins or so =) and 20 insignias for rep, kinda lucky?
评论来自
64354
drop rate is not low like it used to..got 5 in 15 min yesterday.and now its also avaible to get 500 rep for cavens of time or concortium if u rescue prisoner.
评论来自
68432
Those are not having good drop rate on my server at least. Has farmed at bashir landing outside the manaforge and at the camp for 3 days now some hours/day and got not a single key so far :(
评论来自
43311
Can they drop in Non-heroic Mana tombs?
评论来自
40225
So far I've had very good luck in Bash'irs landing, gotten at least 8 keys there in a very short time period(for getting these keys at least).
In heroic Mana-Tombs I got 3 keys, and I had gotten these only up to the second boss, drop rates seems good in heroic Mana tombs
评论来自
riaa
So just went up to the prisons with 12 keys on me. Decided to try them all =) Well after the first two mobs came and have been killed, the next prison i opened i got a Rescued Keepers of Time Custodian that spawned and got 550rep with Keepers of time. In the next prison a Rescured Lower City Brute Spawned and i got 550 rep with Lower City. I tried them all and got on from cenerarion expedition to and one more from lower city. So seems like u can get one from every of the new factions =) And ofc got the id tags for turning in with consortium. I dont know if this is something that only will come when ur revered with consortium. But never gotten them when i was just honored with them and opened the prisons.
Edit... When a rescued custodian spawn u will not get an id tag! But rep with some faction in stead
评论来自
ilikecheese
This was weird. While I had Ethereum Prisoner I.D. Catalogue
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/quest=10972
in my Quest Log, in 1 hour I got 51 Insignia's and 6 keys from killing Zaxxis NPCs. But after I completed the quest by opening the prisons and completed the quest, I went back to farm more Keys, and after 1+ hour of farming and getting 70 Insignia's, I ended up with 0 keys. Now I wish I hadn't completed the I.D. quest.
Can someone else check this out? The Key drop rate seems to be high when you have the I.D. Catalogue quest in your log.
评论来自
79425
Talked to guy trying to sell these for 400 g each. anyone know what an actual fair price would be ?
评论来自
Mordiceius
Warden Icoshock actually has a pretty decent drop rate of keys. You wouldn't know by the WoWhead metrics (as he was in the game long before keys) but the droprate, while it is not be 100%, is really decent. Dropped about 5 keys out of the 10 times I've killed him in passing. Maybe I'm just lucky.
评论来自
16488
Oh.. -.-'' One turn in away from revered and I have one of these keys.. BAM some stupid belf comes out of the prison thing and gives me 550 rep with Keepers of Time ;_;
Like I need their rep..
评论来自
Senrye
This is now a reward for Daily Dungeon quests given in Shattrath City.
评论来自
82414
One dropped for me in Heroic Mana Tombs.
I was on the quest
A Thousand Worlds
at the time, and no one else in the party was on either of the quests involving the keys, so they didn't get to roll. Not sure if they drop in non-heroic.
评论来自
26166
The best ways to get these is from the daily (non heroic) quests where you will get 1, and you can do heroic Mana Tombs. In heroic MT there will (in most runs) drop between 3-5 witch means you have a great chance of getting atleast 1.
When you are so lucky to get em you can use em for the quest where you deliver 5 and then get another quest. If you do the whole chain you will end up with a permanent Yor (a "bonus" boss in heroic MT, who drops some nice rings) key.
You can also use em at the prisons in Netherstorm. They are just west of Manaforge Ultris. You can see the camp on the map (mushroom looking things.
There are 5-7 prisons and you just step up to them and use you key.
Now either it will spawn a mob who can drop some pretty desent things (blue rings and good greens) or a faction guy will spawn and give you 500 rep with his faction.
There are the following factions:
*Cenarion Expedition
*Consortium
*Keepers of Time
*Lower City
*The Sha'tar
*Sporeggar
The mobs who can spawn will drop a Ethereum Prisoner I.D. Tag witch you can deliver at the camp north of where you are and get 250 Consortium rep.
评论来自
clavarnway
Does anybody know if you are already exalted with a faction if that faction's prisoner can still spawn on you inside a prison, thus wasting the key completely since you are already exalted?
评论来自
galaxygoddess
Can you still open prisons if you're exalted with consortium?
评论来自
Irulan
These are BoP so send them to an alt that needs rep with consortium. I send them to my priest healer where I can't grind with and is also a disser, and the dropchance of blue items is pretty high, I had about 6 blue drops from 25 keys.
评论来自
SignupSucks
I'm trying to decide what the best use of these keys are for the final jump to exalted Consortium. Individually they are worth 250 rep with Consortium, unless you're unlucky and get an Outland rep NPC (which seems very rare. I think I've only seen one Sha'tar Vindicator in the dozens of keys I've used, and none of the others).
My issue is that you need 5 of these keys to get an Ethereum Stasis Chamber Key (
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=29750
). The turn in to get the chamber key rewards you 500 rep, but I'm not certain that mobs you kill from the stasis chambers give any consortium rep. Can anyone confirm whether they do or not? Additionally, if you do get a Mark of the Nexus king from the Stasis Chamber mob, does summoning and killing Yor provide any reputation to Consortium?
评论来自
Doomhawk
Heroic Mana Tombs is potentially a great way to get these keys. I was the only one in my group who had the Consortium rep to even see the keys, so I walked out with 8 of them, plus the rep I earned from the instance itself. Very nice for someone working on Consortium rep.
评论来自
alcy
Just tested this, we were 5 Guildies who did the quest, went to use the keys together.
First was a Cenarion Expedition prisoner, we were all near and he did an AoE animation and all got hit for +500 CE rep.
This happened 3 times out of 5, with different factions. The 2 times it didnt spawn a prisoner, was a mob that dropped green. Gave it to the keyholder.
评论来自
109021
Kinda surprised nobody's mentioned, yet.
The mobs you fight are guaranteed to drop a blue BoP or a green BoE!
评论来自
alcy
Has the droprate been changed? I got 3 keys in half an hour from mobs that wowhead says to have 2% droprate. O.O
评论来自
Kreeps
Why could I not loot these from mobs in Mana Tombs the other day? I'm Honored with consortium and Commander Ameer will not talk to me. Is ther a pre-quest in order to loot these from mobs?
Thanks
评论来自
141130
After killing 100 mobs of the Zaxxis variety around 'The Heap' in Netherstorm, didn't rush took me about an hour.
I ended up with :
2 Ethereum Prison Keys
along with :
94 Netherweave Cloth
55 Zaxxis Insignia
3 greens:
Mistyreed Hood (random enchant)
Nessingwary Longrifle (random enchant)
Shadow Council Cowl (random enchant)
Junk: (sold to vendor)
2 Dilapidated Cloth Gloves (38s 5c ea)
1 Dense War Staff (2g 35s 40c)
1 Garader Sharp (cheese) (2s 80c)
:)
评论来自
108241
I have been digging around for a while now..
I don't know about everyone else but it was my impression that these keys were for rep turnins, though I was unsure of where to go to.
For those of you who were confused like me, yes, these keys can help you get rep through Consortium, but unlike other simple turnin quests
(such as getting insignias or warbeads in Nagrand)
, it's not 100% Consortium reputation per key.
You get one of these keys and you go to Netherstorm.
Around 54,39 (or that general area), you use the key to unlock one of the prisons there.
You will then either get a hostile mob or a friendly one.
Kill the hostile mob, and it'll drop an I.D. tag, which you turnin for 250 rep with Consortium.
There's a chance you might get a friend mob, who will give you rep with some other faction.
This is how people 'turn the keys in for rep' usually. There are the quests to get five keys, but I have yet to figure that part yet. ~_~
I hope this helps those who were confused like me. ><
评论来自
clouds
Like some people said before, you can get these from doing the daily instance. Nether-Stalker Mah'duun gives all the ones that are the non-heroics. He is also near the on that gives out heroic quests. These keys open the prisions, usualy bring out a monster that you have to kill.The monsters drop either a blue or a nice green quality peice of armor.
评论来自
124248
I have made a simple, quick and easy spammable macro to use when flying around to find the Jailors that have a near 100% drop rate for the keys
/target Ethereum Jailor
Just drag that to your hotbar and spam it!
Easier than hovering your mouse over each and every mob just to find the jailor.
~DanubeRS
评论来自
124859
I've had extraordinary luck with picking these up at The Heap. I've gotten (so far) 6 within 20 minutes, so my benefits to farming for Consortium rep is twofold.
(Five minutes later: I now have two more)
评论来自
322636
confirmed...the drop rate has been changed. I got 4 keys by clearing all the Zaxxix NPC's at 32, 74. Probably about a 20% droprate for me. Same time I collected the Zaxxis Insignias for
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/quest=10308
Edit...I went back to get 5 more for the follow on...on no drops...so looks like they only drop while you have this quest. Might want to see if you can get 10 to drop..cause you need 5 more afterwards.
评论来自
darksoul019
if your exalted with the factions which you can get rep from opening the prisons, those npcs wont come out, i was only grinding for consortium rep and am exalted with all the other factions that this key gives rep for and only got the consortium trader and mobs to kill for tags so if your only wanting consortium rep make sure your exalted with the other factions.
评论来自
339992
It's really not worth saving 5 Ethereum Prison Keys to do A Thousand Worlds rather than just using them to hand in Prisoner Tags.
1 x Prisoner Tag = 250 rep
5 x Ethereum Keys = 500 rep and a
chance
to get the next part of the quest
The only good thing about the bosses (which are easily solo'able at 80) are some random BoE blues. But they're not really worth the effort. It's more beneficial to just open the cages in Netherstorm.
Just my two cents.
评论来自
340068
Obviously No one has pointed it out yet. But if you are looking for a Prison ground you can find one at 54.46 in Netherstorm
评论来自
Slater
These prisons can be found west of Manaforge Ultris in Netherstorm.
The function of these seems to have been tweaked a bit. I just used 25 of them and 23 of them spawned mobs that dropped a green or blue item (100%) and an
Ethereum Prisoner I.D. Tag
(Also 100% dropate). The other 2 spawned previously mentioned reputation-yielding NPCs. It's worth mentioning that the 2 NPCs that spawned to give me rep only came from the 2 factions I wasn't yet exalted with.
评论来自
201338
If a level 60 player (for example) is partied with someone who has a key and can open cages - would the level 60 player receive the rep bonus even though they can't initiate anything on their own due to level restrictions?
I'm curious because I'm wondering if you would be able to farm endlessly to eventually get honored w/ Keepers of Time so you can learn enchant ring sp.
Thanks...
评论来自
kronchev
Killing the creatures released from these prisons seems to no longer give bonus rep to level 80s. I just did 9 and not a single one gave any kind of rep on kill. I am not exalted with any Outlands faction. Kind of @#$%ty for them to do that.
评论来自
erikfina
I found 2 in about 5 minutes in Razaan's Landing in Blade's Edge.
评论来自
bezerker08
I was exalted with all BC reputations but Consortium and did this 21 times in a row.
Got:
1 Keepers of Time (useless)
1 Cenarion Expedition (useless)
1 Consortium (+500 rep)
1 Lower City (useless)
17 random kill mobs. (Ethereum Prisoner I.D. Tags)
Consortium will be my 39th exalted and Tranquillian is next.
EDIT: Not sure why this is downvoted? I was providing information for other rep farmers
评论来自
Isiwien
Just did this 34 times in a row. Got:
2 Sporeggar.
1 Keepers of Time.
1 Lower City.
30 I.D. Tags.
评论来自
vazhkatsi
you get rep from turning in the i,d.s they drop, not from killing them
评论来自
Allakhazam
<3 jailor 65,30
Edited, May 24th 2007 5:29pm by medicinalpink
评论来自
Allakhazam
if you farm the ethereum nullifiers eventually you will see ethereum jailers appear. they have a 100% drop rate
评论来自
Allakhazam
Have been grinding rep for consortium for ~1week now and close to exalted. This a.m. I spent a little over an hour at "the heap" north side closest to area 52 and got 8 of these things very quickly. usually takes forever. mainly got them from the zaxxis raider pats. not sure why, but who is agruging with success.
评论来自
Allakhazam
The prisons are located in the staging grounds (west of manaforge ultris in Netherstorm) - They are pink and circular shaped. They are easy to spot when coming from above.
Once you unlock the prison you will face a mob who will usually drop a green or blue item and a Ethereum Prisoner ID tag. This tag you bring to Commander Ameer who is just north of the staging grounds.
You will receive 250 consortium rep for this repeatable quest.
ohh, also worth mentioning.. sometimes when opening a prison you will free a prisoner. This will give you 500 rep for one of these factions: Consortium, Cenarion Expedition, Lower City, Keepers of Time, Sporeggar, The Sha'tar
Cheers!
Edited, Jan 5th 2008 9:51am by Eximinator
评论来自
Allakhazam
okay, so about 8 hours of farming in blade edge mnts I had accumulated a total of 25 prison keys.
I decided to bring along some guild mates along for the ride when I opened the stasis chambers in Netherstorm so that they could share in the possible reputation gains, as well as roll on the blue drops.
Interesting in the short 2 or 3 short minutes it took to fight our way from the friendlies north of the staging grounds, to the stasis chambers we had another 5 keys drop. This isn't the first time i've noticed this and I'm starting to suspect that in a group the drop rate of the prison keys is greatly increased. This may be intentional, it may be a bug, never the less its a fact.
so we unlocked 30 prisons. We received 5 blue drops, 20 green drops, and in 5 cases we received +500 rep (2 towrads cenarion, 3 towards keepers of time)
it was like fishing in a barrel. We were so impressed we plan to do this again. Only next time we'll hunt for keys in a group. This is faster and easier rep than running instances.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is all great and fun but I'd Like a starting point to the chain quest to be able to roll on the Keys in instances
评论来自
Allakhazam
these sell nicely. have gotten 100g each. didn't took more than 30 min to get 5 of these. 500g in 30 min is quite nice.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've gotten one of of the 2 groups of Ethereals at the end of The Arcatraz; because it's a green item it was also rolled for, which I won luckily. The second key I've found was randomly off an Archon near the prisons in Netherstorm. I'd guess the stronger the ethereal, the more likely you get the random drop.
评论来自
Allakhazam
There's no reason why anyone would farm these. The mobs that the keys spawn only give Consortium rep about 1/4 of the time. The rest of the time, you get a mob that gives no rep, Cenarian Expedition rep, or even Sporeggar rep.
I got 4 of these out of about 200 kills while farming Zaxxis Insignias at The Heap, for Consortium rep. None of the mobs they spawned gave Consortium rep, and only one dropped anything rare: the Sporeggar elite, which dropped a craptacular BoP shadow resist cloak that I vended. Also, only 2 of the 4 dropped I.D. tags, so I was only able to get 500 total Consortium rep for the quest turn-ins.
So if you're farming Consortium rep, head to The Heap south of Area 52 and farm insignias. If you get a key, great: auction it off and keep the gold (25-50g on Bronzebeard atm), but don't set out to farm the damn things!
Edited, Sep 14th 2007 8:11am by Flackbash
评论来自
Allakhazam
seems to be a random drop off any mob in the proving ground. pretty bad rate.
评论来自
Allakhazam
The droprate seemes to be very low for some and very high for others. I looted 5 keys and didn't kill that much. But my brother killed mobs there (at blade edge's plateu) for about an hour without getting any key at all.
And, also when I opened the prisons two(!) of them dropped a blue item for me. Cloth feet with healing, stam and int and a ring with Spell dmg and healing and stam and shadow ress. I'm a mage so the boots got sold to vendor (BoP) and I saved the ring for the shadow ress and they were also BoP.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Finally got one today. Killed around 20 of the guys on the same island as the prisons, then went to farming Zaxxis.
52 insignias (at least 100 kills) later, a key finally dropped off a Zaxxis Stalker.
Three kills later, a second key dropped off a Zaxxis Raider.
Two kills later, a third key dropped off a Zaxxis Raider.
评论来自
Allakhazam
who drops this thing>?
评论来自
Allakhazam
68 netherweave, 2 healing potions, 1 mana potion, 1 staff, 1 set of shoulderpads, 1 helmet, 1 belt, 5 cheese, 8 water............ no key - sigh
评论来自
Allakhazam
hi all! where can i find these Prisons i got 2 keys and i wanna open something XD
评论来自
Allakhazam
I farmed the ethereals south of area 52 at The Heap mainly to get consortium rep. I farmed over 10 of these keys there in a relatively quick time because they are all melee mobs with low life.
As a side note, turning in 5 keys to get a prison cell key in blades edge nets you 500 consortium rep per turn in. If you're farming those cells give all the keys to someone farming the rep! :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Have 8 for sale on Shadowsong - Alliance side.
Can transfer to horde. pst and we'll figure a price.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Because you'll get Zaxxis Insignia as well as the occasional key, if you're going for rep. I got 40 insignias and 3 keys in an hour and a half, that's 1750 rep, from the cages I got 2 greens and a bop blue.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Man I got 7 of these things in like 20 kills the other day. For once the drop rate seems to be bugged in my favor.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got one from a Zaxxis Raider south of Area 52
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ran Heroic mana tombs 3 times ended with 19 keys, more dropped but you roll on them so I lost some.
评论来自
Allakhazam
wow all you guys complaining must have really bad luck.
i farmed bashir landing in the fly to only area of Blades Edge mnts, and got 15 prison keys in 3 hours.
This is an excellent source of consortium rep. I think on average I don't get a prison tag about 20 - 25% of the time.
I noticed far better luck farming at night when player pop is low, but thats always the case with anything.
also a good source of large prismatic shards if you can disenchant.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Try removing them from your keyring. You should be able to auction them if they are in your normal bags.
Edited, Jul 14th 2007 5:06pm by Riyan
评论来自
Allakhazam
I keep seeing these drop in mana tombs and everyone else can roll on them except me. not only that I've been farming the etherium in netherstorm for days and I havent seen a single one drop. is there anything that I could have done to prevent me from looting these?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have got two keys so far and both from Ethereum Jailor (lvl 71, about 13k hp). 100% drop rate so far, found one at 57,50.
Edited, May 23rd 2007 6:12pm by DrownedSpinebreaker
评论来自
Allakhazam
Best is by the heap. Even though drop is 5%, you can kill 4 times as many without healing. And they are lvl 66-68 and not 70 in the other area. Plus you get the Zaxxis Insignias.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Seems you can no longer AH these keys. Blizzard really wants to put a damper on things.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Used on Prison and Gul'bor (The Den Mother) pops out. Level 71, non-elite. Very easy to kill. She drops the ID Tags and sometimes a blue BoP item.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've killed 4 mobs so far & got two keys (one off a shocktrooper, one off an overlord).
Not a good sample set, but the droprate seems to be good.
Addendum: OK, I haven't got a third in about 15 kills now. Other people on my server are complaining that they've killed 50-60 without a drop. I may have just been lucky.
Considering this chain results in a repeatable quest that you'll need a key to do (Ethereum Prisoner I.D. Catalogue - haven't done it & it's not listed on here yet, but it's a blue ? quest), I'd have to assume the key's a regular random drop rather than one specific to any quest. Hence dropping & retaking the quest may not work well, but it's probably worth a shot if you're up to 50 kills with no drop.
Edited, May 22nd 2007 9:04pm by blupache
评论来自
Allakhazam
the mobs from heroic mana tombs have good drop (i cleared it and droped about 10 keys)in 1,5hours or less
评论来自
Allakhazam
Killed 113 mobs (according to my UI) for 2 keys..
评论来自
Allakhazam
why is it that when these drop, only certain ppl can roll on it?
评论来自
Allakhazam
over 150 mobs, 1 key off the probably 25th or so... killed every mob around the edges of the island the staging grounds are on twice plus extra grinding where the insignias drop. ill probably end up with 250 or so insignias first to get exalted with consortium before i get 5 keys for the quest.
ill have to try a heroic mana tombs.
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Thottbot
Since the patch went live I've noticed that you can get it from any of the ethereum guys around manaforge ultris and seems to be about 1 drop in 50ish kills.
I've gotten 5 so far. 1 for the first quest, next 3 trying to get the id tag and instead getting rep (twice lower city, once shat) and 5th finally spawned guy to kill for id tag.
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Thottbot
Alright so after spending 5 hours doing this and turning in about 9 id tags I went and did some research and found that until you are revered with the consortium, all that these keys and id tags will do for you is give you 250 rep.
Once you hit revered you will get another quest to collect 5 keys which will then send you off to kill a trapped gronn in Blade's Edge which the quest recommends 5 people for. Apparently you only need 2 people for it if you're geared decently.
This then leads onto a further two or three 5-key quests which do require 5 man groups to run up until you get a last one to go into shadow labs and use a master key made from these to summon another guy, possibly in heroic only.
The guys you fight all drop a random enchantment blue item.
As far as keys, they are dropped randomly by pretty much any ethereum guy around Manaforge Ultris, about a 1 in 50 shot based on my farming. The only thing better was the Ethereum Jailor's which dropped a key 100% of the time and appear to be on a 15 minute or so timer for respawn randomly around the prison areas.
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Thottbot
Just got a key from a Zaxxis Raider South of Area 52. So it's not only the Ethereums dropping them.
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Thottbot
there is a lvl 71 mob called
Etherium Jailor
that has a
100% drop
. He is pretty tough though... I'm a lvl 70 feral druid and he killed me in my first attempt. I found him at 58,49, but i cant find him again. there is a regular avanger in its place so i think its just a random and low spawn.
**he looks like a blue avanger.
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Thottbot
yep, while grinding for Z sig (70 an hour,10 for 250 rep of Consortium), I was getting 2-3 keys dropping an hour. Since I was grinding for 6 HOURS, That is a pretty good estimation! Plus you get 100+ NW cloth an hour too! Plus 3-4 greens. Plus about 12 silver per mob.
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Thottbot
Do these still drop after you've reached revered or higher with them?
I've noticed that I haven't had a single key drop off the ones at the heaps since I hit revered yesterday.
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Thottbot
They keep droping when you hit revered.
However, yesterday, on 250+ Heap kills not a single one dropped. I smell a stealth-nerf
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Thottbot
Best way to get these in my opinion is by farming them in The Heap. There are two reasons for this,
1 - They're easier to kill and you're less likely to die.
2 - They also drop Zaxxis Insignias so you can boost your rep further.
The drop rate is poor no matter where you farm these. Expect to spend a good few hours getting 5 or so keys.
Good luck.
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Thottbot
After killing about 35 mobs each in the staging grounds and at the heap, I found that the auction house had a 100% drop rate for 10g. :P
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Thottbot
If you're farming these anywhere except the Zaxxis guys, you're wasting your time.
Spent an hour or so doing the quests at the staging grounds, got 1 key. After I finished the quest series I figured I'd avoid the farmers and go to Bash'ir landing, where I could kill without interference. An hour later, not a single key had dropped.
So I figured as a last resort I'd head for the Heap and claw a bunch of Zaxxis in the face. Firt 10 kills yielded two keys. Over the next hour I got 70 insignias, and another 4 keys.
I don't know why Blizzard thought it was a good idea to make it so you only got one place in the entire game to farm an item, but they do it a lot and prison keys are no different.
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Thottbot
I'd definitely agree with most of the posts above. The Heap is the best place to hunt for keys. Not only the added factor that you get insignias, but the mobs are easy and there's no elite mobs to slow you down.
First time:
- Mobs: 67
- Insignias: 40
- Keys: 3
- Green drops: 2
- Turn-in: 3 ID Tags
- Net faction: 1750 Consortium
Second time:
- Mobs: 70
- Insignias: 40
- Keys: 3
- Green drops: 3 (+1 Rare BoP from prisoner)
- Turn-in: 3 ID Tags
- Net faction: 1750 Consortium
Third time:
- Mobs: 80
- Insignias: 40
- Keys: 2
- Green drops: 2
- Turn-in: 1 ID Tag
Net faction: 500 Lower City, 1250 Consortium
Forth time:
- Mobs: 73
- Insignias: 40
- Keys: 2
- Green drops: 1
- Turn-in: No tags
Net faction: 900 Sporeggar, 1000 Consortium
Lesson: Kill 70 odd mobs in the Heap, get a *!@#-ton of faction and some decent loot. The bad prisoners always drop something, sometimes a rare. The good ones give you some random faction you probably need anyway.
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Thottbot
Wanted to verify that they do drop in the Zaxxis mobs at Honored reputation; I think the only prerequisite is to gain the quest to get them in the first place.
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Thottbot
What is the quest to start recieving these keys? Ive done lots of consortium quests and still no Keys are dropping for me.
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Thottbot
Sometimes they are in AH!
You don't need a quest until drops these, it's just a drop of mobs with low droprate.
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Thottbot
for those of you after a Ethereum Jailor, don't think of them as spawning after some time, think of them like a gold vein in relation to an iron vein. The Etherum Jailor is a rare spawn of the Ethereum Avengers and Nullifiers. So kill a group through a few times and you'll see one. I've actually had 2 appear in an area on occasion. Happy Hunting!
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Thottbot
Ever since patch 2.3, you can get the keys from daily's. Just do normal instances.
Pretty good to do them for the gold aswell.
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Thottbot
Anyone know if patch 2.3 has affected drop rated from Zaxxis raiders/stalkers? Yesterday I got 50 zaxxis insignia and only 1 prison key dropped - previously I would get 3 or 4 in this time
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Thottbot
FOr some strange reason, they are now quest rewards from some guy call Mad'hun (one of the 2 bandage looking next to the image of a brown orc in lower city), who gives you daily quests to kill a certain type of enemy in LVL 70, non raid, instances (EG - SLABS, SH,SV etc). Also, WHAT ARE THEY FOR?
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Thottbot
Use Key in Nethersorm
Loc 54.40
Also this key drop in this location, but small %
(sorry for bad english)
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Thottbot
Though I don't keep exact numbers, in insignia farming I've found I get about one of these for every 20 insignia (and don't tell me none of you count your insignias by 10's :P ), so I'd say an average one per 40-50 kills in The Heap is a good estimate. I have heard they drop slightly more often at the Staging Grounds, but now I'm on that long road from revered to exalted and I figure if I'm going to be farming keys for the heroic quest, may as well take whatever other rep I can snag.
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Thottbot
I've had the best luck getting these from the Zaxxis in the Heap - such good luck that, with 1800 rep-points to Exalted, I had 7 of these drop within 25 minutes! I
was
farming for insignias, but seeing as one key usually equals 10 insignias, I got off lightly for the last stretch of rep-farming.
I'm also planning on continuing to farm these even after Exalted. Hell, with a near-100% green item chance, the chance of a BoP blue, or the chance of +550 random rep with other factions when opening the prisons, and the ton of money/trash/cloth along the way...why not?
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Thottbot
Can anyone confirm that the droprate for these is higher at The Heap vs. Bash'ir Landing?
Save these, do not turn in for rep. Run Heroic Mana Tombs for faster rep. Plus there will be at least 6 of these dropping in H-MT. My question is, after exalted, what is the best place to farm these?
BTW these go for about 20g starting bid & 25g buyout on my server's AH (Stonemaul US). They sell well.
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Thottbot
I don't know if this is a coincidence or not, but when I actually had accepted the quest "Etherium Secrets" (
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/quest=10971/
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But I think I may have been just lucky. The first prison I opened gave me a Keepers of Time prisoner who gave me 500 KoT rep. The second one was a named mob that dropped a pretty nice lvl 70 BoP blue. Too bad it was cloth (I'm a hunter), but I was able to DE it for a Large Prismatic Shard.
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Thottbot
They drop very well at the staging grounds. Unfortunately they don't seem to sell very well in AH our server (Deathwing -EU). The price has dropped from 35 to about 20g each.
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Thottbot
Only ever used the keys on the chambers which have the mobs in for the items - always thought the rep bubbles were pointless - 100rep for a super rare key no thx...
1 day i accidently oppend the rep bubble - and bam 500 rep for thrallmar - i have never opended a mob bubble since
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Thottbot
What exactly does one have to do to make them drop? I hve killed more then 200 with no drops what so ever.... do i need rep or to complete a q first?
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Thottbot
"The keys open the Etherium Prisons. Each prison has a chance to summon a different named mob or a random friendly npc that gives you 500 rep with their faction"
As someone posted above, I believe this is the main reason they are 30ish gold on the AH. It's the reason I save and buy them, that +500 rep has come in handy more then 3 times alrdy for me(Scale of the sandds). I have seen some nice drops, but nothing really worth saving/using at lvl 70. The keys give more rep then handing in the 5 for the Q, 250 for a card.
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Thottbot
Mana Toombs has been the easiest and fastest way to get the keys for me. I've been using them in hope to get the random +500 rep with a faction I need, and it has occured 2-3 times, that last +500 rep I needed right then and there.
Some nice drops aswell, + shadow res on cloak, + arcane res on rings, but nothing one really needs at lvl 70, both from crafting and 25man drops are better.
It's the +500 random rep that u can get that they cost 30ish gold on the AH imo
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Thottbot
Okay, straight up if you want to farm Consortium rep with these keys get then farm Zaxxis Raiders, they have a way higher droprate, plus you can get Zaxxis Insignia for more rep. Believe me, i spent at least 4 hours farming Ethereum's at the staging grounds and got 3, i spent 10 minutes with the zaxxis raiders and got 2 keys
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Thottbot
I lost track of how many Zaxxis Raiders and Zaxxis Stalkers I killed but i farmed 70 Zaxxis insignia with only one Ethereum Prison Key drop. So if we can assume i killed about 140 mobs than that = < 1% drop rate. maybe the drop rate has changed. still good rep farming however.
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Thottbot
Just do heroic Mana tombs theres like 10-15 keys drop EVERY run.
Im exalted anyhow , farmed Zaxxis insignias by the dozens till i got to it just for the monthly gems bag.
cheers :)
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Metodi
On TBC classic - killed about 150 Zaxxis guys - got 89 insignias, no ethereum key.
Anybody got them to drop keys?
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