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评论来自
Benegesserit
The proc rate is only 5% :(
评论来自
19962
This robe is crap, especially for an epic:
We'll assume the 5% proc rate listed on on the spell details. We'll also assume a frost mage with Imp Frostbolt. (.5 second reduced cast time and .1 reduction on the coefficient.)
We'll assume a flat 1000 dmg on non-crit frostbolts (easy number).
For the first 20 frostbolts (needed to proc the bonus) we have
x = 20 x 1000 = 20,000
Now, let's also overestimate and give the caster 4 frostbolts in the 10 second window (it would probably be closer to 3.5, but even giving some leeway, you'll see how poor this robe is.)
Multiplying the bonus by Frostbolt's coefficient (reduced by talents) we get:
y = (4 x ((130 x .71) + 1000) = 4369.2
That is four 1000 point frost bolts with the 130 dmg bonus applied (works out to 92 more damage per frost bolt.
So, the total done per proc is:
x + y = 24369.2
This equates to 24369.2/24 (spellcasts) = 1015.3, or +15 spell dmg overall.
Lets compare that with
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=31297
.
Ignoring the spell hit/crit on both items (that amount of hit FAR suprasses the crit available on this robes, we get the difference in flat spell dmg bonuses:
50 - 27 = 23.
Applied to frost bolts coefficient we're left with
23 * .71 = 16.33
Overall +dmg provided by epic Karazhan robes: 15.3
Overall +dmg bonus of Blue robes compared to Karazhan robes: 16.33
The blue robes are running about 25-50g on the Cenarius Auction House.
Don't waste the DKP.
评论来自
30211
got it this 2 days ago in kara and it is quite nice for a fire mage. nice spell crit, (just under 1%) good stats and the proc is amazing for scorch. procs around 5% and with a scorch build, once it procs start a pyro. trinket and pyro go great with the proc. ive had almost 8k pyro crit +ignite with it. im 10/48/3 so no spell power.
it is truly an amazing chest. looks good too unlike some others. spellstrike + this + trinket is a brutal combo. however chances are they wont proc at the same time but when they do it is a nice bonus
good luck on your quest to get this. it is by far the best robe ive seen so far.
评论来自
34388
lvl 70 warlock.
- does proc on initial dot application.
- does not proc on tick (as you'd expect).
- when the proc goes off you can use a similar trinket like saphirron's for double dip +dmg :o
评论来自
junny
recently got this from nightbane. it seems to proc alot more than the 5% proc rate said above considering i use fireblast whenever its up, and icelance after frostbite procs etc. very nice robe imo love the spirit and crit!
评论来自
18970
Unfortunately for me, this robe follows the trend of sidegrades and items you have, because they are epic. I like the look of it on my toon, but I will rarely use it over Bloodfyre Robes of Annihilation (
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=28252
).
My pov (shadowpriest):
The spirit effect converts into 2.7 dmg with Imp. DS and a minor increase for our mana regeneration (oFSR), which can make it ~30 dmg/heal. The effect can hardly be factored in. Said that, my conclusion is: I love the look, but stick to Annihilation for fights.
评论来自
Shivacode
Warp-Infused Drape skeets all over this junk. 30 damage, some hit rating, and sockets to boot, so you can slot in the crit you want AND get more damage that doesn't rely on a proc.
On a side note I can't believe Blizzard puts items like this in the game. It's a slap in the face, honestly. I don't want gimmick epic items off bosses I spent time and gold learning, that may or may not give me more damage than some blue I farmed in a few runs of a 5-man. I want actual upgrades.
Save the proc skullduggery for trinkets. Give us real pieces of raid gear with tangible stat upgrades over dungeon blue items.
评论来自
Malicii
Since we don't even use dkp for Kara, it was free for me.
As they are now, they are kind of crap compared to my Robes of Oblivion, but they do look cool :P Besides, Epics are being looked at in 2.10, maybe this one will get buffed a bit. It'll be fun to trinket while this procs for CoDs and other dots.
评论来自
13065
I'd like to take this robe, after advancing so far through Karazhan. But, not sure i would. Besides comparable blue mentioned, i would also compare these two.
Vermillion Robes of the Dominant
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=27799
Bloodfyre Robes of Annihilation
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=28252
]
评论来自
41994
i got this robe first on server now it serve me well as arcane / frost mage some time i get procs and stack together with my
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=31336
blade of the wizadry
some sapphiros bone for add more frost dmg held in the off hand and
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=27683
that trinket and in like every 5 minute this baby procs together almost all the time wish is really good. i land frost bolt most of them crit of 4k up to 5k because i have more spell dmg with arcane im over 1000 spell dmg now and i land about 3 out of 5 frost bolt crit on a window of 20 sec and eat the hunter in dmg and beat other class
so you see for my big question is that this robe is good if you mixed it with some nice stuff and now im on my hunt to get my 4 procs
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=28418
wish it drop from last boss in the arcatraz GG ( ALSO TO HAVE IN NOTE THIS SET OF GEAR IS GOOD FOR RAID NO INTENDED TO USE ON PVP SINCE IM A RAID MAGE SO GG )
评论来自
47148
These robes are crap. Blue robes own them.
评论来自
frmorrison
While these Robes are not the best out there, currently on the PTR the proc is stacking for crazy damage gains. I doubt that is intended, but you never know.
评论来自
19962
The new buffs (+34 dmg instead of 27, and 23 crit instead of 20) make this a little more worthwhile, but still very inferior to BoP Tailoring - which I guess is to be expected.
评论来自
50728
As a Scorch spammer, and assuming the proc is 5% lasting 10 seconds, in 100 Scorch spells (150 seconds), the buff would be activated by 5 scorch spells, which would equal 50 seconds of buff = 30% of the time.
30% of 130 spell dmg bonus is 39 spell dmg, plus +32 post-patch = 71 spell damage approx. Certainly not a PvP robe since depends on proc, but certainly sweet for raiders.
The only hateful thing about this robe is the Arcanist look. Damn, wearing arcanist until the end of times with all the pre-TBC set reutilization. No matter if your new item is a crappy mid-lvl blue or a Serpentshrine epic, it will no doubt look like Arcanist.
评论来自
frotty
100 casts
20 crit, 80 non
(32*1.5*20)+(32*1.0*80)
960+2560 = 3520
15 casts
3 crit, 12 non
(162*1.5*3)+(162*1.0*12)
729+1944= 2673
6193 total damage gained from this +dmg, versus 6325 on the blue, if you assume the same hit, pene and crit rates.
However,
This robe is currently the 2nd best chestpiece for any crit build classes under the arena robes, 'til the Hydross robe.
评论来自
44554
"gives a chance when your harmful spells land" with a fixed procrate (5% in this case) means spells with less casting time will benefit more from the robe.
An other thing to maybe mention is that there is a bluepost somewhere from Tigole if i am not mistaken (cant find the link) saying "we want arcane missiles to be the main dps spell in tBC for mages"
They may have not succeeded in that, but still i belive this robe was created around that idea, as the instance was already there before extended testing took place
now with AM hitting on average once per second a 5% procrate means an average of 1 proc / 20 seconds.
Counting in the time it will overlap and the resists (hitcap is still 99%) it should get us to ~40% of the time with the proc on, getting this robe equal to a flat 84speldmg, 24 crit for AM spam.
All that ofcourse is unless the robe also has an unlisted internal cooldown similar to the sextant of unstable currents.
P.S. sorry for not posting the calcs, i thought it would make the post too boring to read
评论来自
34204
Even if this isn't decent for raiding, why wouldn't it be decent PvP?
In PvE environments when you're talking about mobs that have a large amount of health, sustained damage is important, but in PvP you want burst damage. While the proc is active and stacked with a spell damage trinket, that's a lot of increased potential burst damage you're gaining, even if it is just for a few spells.
And just because it doesn't always proc doesn't mean it's useless - your crits don't always hit, but are they useless in PvP? >.<
IMO, this is a robe that you gamble with in situations that you're dealing with targets that don't have two million health, like players or even mobs you are farming. By equipping it, maybe, just maybe in an Arena match it'll proc on your first few hits and add a nice push to your future attacks.
Or maybe it won't proc. But regardless, this robe, is definitely NOT worthless because of what it potentially CAN do, rather than what it always WILL do.
评论来自
44173
For a fire mage that uses fireballs as main damage spell, this robe's proc is up for 10 seconds every minute (20x3=60) and thats 21.66 spell damage. Along with its static 32, and stats, this robe still isn't worse than blue gear out there.
As for spell crit, for a fire mage, 1% crit means 1.1% more dps + 0.3% less mana usage, along with the probability of any trinkets it may proc, so crit rating is far more worthy than hit rating. Note the fact that in WoW a crit automaticly counts as a hit, so it's also a small buff to your hit precentage as well.
评论来自
53654
Mages should not ignore that this has spirit, which is important for regen while evocating.
Also, spirit is a factor for spell damage if any priest in your raid has improved divine spirit.
Stamina on the robe is important, too. Even in PvE, having health is important. Dead mages deal no damage.
评论来自
71391
I got this last nights raid and equipped it straight away, then proceeded to blast through the whole rest of Karazhan... all the time watching for a proc of my nice new bonus. Didnt see it!
Can anyone tell me what the name of the buff that it procs is please, or what the buff icon looks like? Either its bugged since the new patch or (more likely) something in my UI is stopping the proc messages getting through
评论来自
dracuul
This is über for an affliction warlock.. nuf said
评论来自
76224
This appears to be the offensive caster's version of the Masquerade Gown, only far less useful (which is saying something, because the Masquerade Gown sucks).
If you've gotten far enough into Kara to see this, chances are you'll get a much better item in no time.
评论来自
Avira
This robe procs 5% when one of your harmful spells LANDS, and this applies to AOEs and DOTs.
So, if you AOE, multiply the proc chance by the number of targets you're hitting. (It'll almost always be on :D )
I have this robe, and I have to say it is one of the most powerful cloth chests for any Priest or clothie, and even others like moonkins and elemental shaman.
If I use a damage trinket like Icon of the Silver Crescent and put my normal DPS gear on, then spam Holy Nova, Power of Arcanagos will almost always proc, which brings me (temporarily) to approximately 1300 Holy damage, meaning that Smite spam will do more DPS than non-crit Frostbolt spam from a normal mage. Not that you'd DPS with Smite in an instance, that's ridiculous, but it's easy to farm with.
No matter what anyone says, this robe is nice. It's like a damage trinket Use: effect that comes on when you want it... usually.
Besides, it has Spirit. How many DPS robes do you know with Spirit?
评论来自
39749
This Robe and it's proc makes me a Sad Panda. :( :( :(
While it looks very interesting, especially with fast spells at 5% proc rate, the reality pretty much sucks.
The Robe has an internal cooldown of approximately 45 seconds -- during which time any additional procs will be lost. This means the "Power of Arcanagos" buff will never refresh itself. That also makes the true proc rate more like 3% instead of 5%.
I did a bunch of testing with Dr. Boom (hours) on using Ice Lance. Here are the results of the last session(about 30 minutes):
Ice Lance spell casts: 1268
"Power of Arcanagos" procs: 38
Observed Proc Rate: 2.99%
Minimum time betwen Procs: 50 seconds (prob really 45)
By way of comparison, the Mystical Skyfire Diamond (5% proc rate on cast -- no internal cooldown) proc'ed 68 times during this same testing session. (68 / 1268 = 5.3%).
Because of this internal cooldown of 45 seconds, the proc is NEVER worth more than (10/45)*130 +dmg, which equals about +28.9. A far cry from +130 dmg -- but wait, it's not even that good.
Practially speaking it's worse than that because the proc will really take an average of 45 seconds + casttime*(1.0 / 5%) seconds per proc. For a 3 second spell, this is 105 seconds -- thus (10/105)*130 = 12.4 +dmg. For a 1.5 second spell, it's an average of 75 seconds - thus (10/75)*130 = 17.3 +dmg.
Even if Arcane Missiles could potentially proc this with every missile(as promised for Patch 2.2), the result would still be lackluster. Consider, 1.0 seconds per missile procs every 65 seconds on average -- thus (10/65)*130 = 20 +dmg.
In other words, unless Blizzard fixes this robe by removing the internal cooldown, it's pure crap. As a previous commentor noted, there are BLUE robes that easily beat this one overall and certainly any tailored robe blows it away.
So, even though you killed the "last" boss of Karazhan and got his 14% chance to drop Epic "Robe of Elder Scribes", it's likely going to end up sharded right away OR stuck in your bank if you have anything else at all decent.
IMO, Blizzard should remove the Internal Cooldown on this robe to make it worth a damn. Otherwise, dont waste your DKP, rolls, or bank space on this broken KZ epic robe.
评论来自
92793
I have a fire mage for PvE and i have this robe and the bonus +130 dmg is very good for long battles such us Gruul for example, and i have the spelltrike bonus which is +92 dmg and these 2 trinkets :
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=29179
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=28418
and all of them gives +597 dmg which is a huge dmg boost ,and i have seen them all together a lot of times...! :-)
评论来自
Omala
As an arcane Mage:
I had this robe sitting in my bank for a while and was using the Spellfire set. The numbers on my character sheet looked great with the additional spell damage. The problem I've always had was I needed to see numbers in front of me. So... I did a little math:
Arcane Blast > Arcane Blast > Arcane Missles > Scorch = 11 seconds with a total of 8 damaging spells landing with no spell haste bonuses.
With a proc of 5% this means that it procs almost every 20 seconds giving you an additional 130 spell damage for another 10 seconds... every 10 seconds after damage is dealt. Procs even more when Blood Lust is hit...
In other words... It's an INSANE replacement for spellfire and adds some serious damage during long fights. I also strongly suggest building the Blessings deck and getting yourself the Crusade card.
This, the Crusade card and Lightning cap are three very irreplaceable tools as an Arcane Mage and the best suggestions I could give to anyone looking for free damage increases.
In a word... Don't just rely on the numbers in front of you. Much of anyone's damage is based on chance in this game and there's only so much you can do to gurantee damage.
评论来自
22394
When I saw this robe for the first time, my jaw dropped, but then I became skeptical after reading reviews on this chest.
I thought to myself:
How much better is this than what I have on?
and
How often will the Equip effect proc?
I wore it for awhile and dpsed like crazy, never seen it proc once. So I un-equipped it and put my old chestpiece back on. Which is "
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=28391
" and I still use this for PvP atm.
Then I decided to try again with this chest piece because I was bored and wanted to see if the "Internal Cooldown" was actually 45 seconds.
This time around, it was proccing like crazy. The internal cooldown is not 45 seconds by any means, I believe Blizz did fix it.
Edit: From what I can tell, the Internal Cooldown is 20 seconds. I timed it, after the first Proc faded, I set the counter and was killing a mob for 20 seconds I then received a new Proc at 25-26 seconds. This is from my tests, because I do receive them more often than 45 second intervals.
I recommend this to any Spell DPS class out there. Even as an Ele Shaman, who cares, your ranged DPS, not up close combat. Use mail for PvP, atleast until you get Netherstrike or Tier.
评论来自
Devin
I don't care about what rate it procs. It procs on DoT ticks!!11
I have seen almost a minute where it repeatedly procced and refreshed its buff oO
评论来自
112332
Why must this robe suck so bad? The spell damage is just sad, proc or not...
评论来自
CBR1kboy
Is it my imagination, or does this robe seem to proc more often? I sweat it's triggering more often since 2.3...
评论来自
Subache
Wouldnt you rather get:
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=34610
? Of course if you are tailoring, theres no reason not to get fsw or sf, which are easily the better choices!
评论来自
105739
Sadly, this thing is now essentially junk. The proc, while cool, is not worth it even still.
The robes you can get from a 5 man Heroic absolutely flatten this item. The only benefit this has over the Scarlet Sindorei Robes is that this one has some spirit, which equates to roughly 8mp5 while casting. So in a 1 minute duration, this will give you an additonal 12 x 8 = 96 mana, not even enough for another Arcane Blast.
End result, go run Heroic Magistar, get the Scarlet Robes.
I have mine socketed with 12 sp dmg, 6 sp dmg / 5 crit and a 5 sp dmg / 6 stam gem.
Resulting in a total benefit of:
Spell Damage: 78 socketed in the fashion I listed above, more stamina, more intellect, and more critical rating. Since the socket bonus is +5 damage, its very much worth socketing for it.
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=34610
A link to the Robes for those that have no idea what I'm talking about.
评论来自
81147
Even if this is cloth, any Elemental shaman should roll for it (or spend DKP) since is the best chest piece you can get from karazhan.
评论来自
196405
I like this chest piece. For dailies on the Isle I like to leave my resto pvp set on (which can make farming a bore but helps with being ganked). I swap out my chest piece for the
Elder Scribes
, then equip the
Idol of the Unseen Moon
and the
Ancient Draenei Relic
. This may not be a better method than a full balance set, but it does make life a bit easier.
评论来自
31780
Part of my Trash Clearing Armor set, since most of those don't last longer than 15-20 seconds, it can really help burst your dps. I'm using the 100 badge one for bosses.
评论来自
MikadoGG
I really like this robe for my shadowpriest. Its internal cooldown on the proc seems far shorter than 45-50 seconds as stated above. For me it procs every other mob when I'm soloing which is really good (about once every 20-25 seconds). I would probably only swap this out for a robe with better stats/crit/hit and consistent damage, but for a brand new 70 that soloes a lot this is a great chestpiece.
评论来自
Gnomespwn
Since noone has posted this yet... This robe is a clear reference to Elder Scrolls imo.
评论来自
Allakhazam
For all of you that go "Omg this %^&* sucks, on-par with MC loot":
Here is my point of wiev.. Calculated from a firelock's perspective.
The facts:
130 spelldmg / 10 seconds.
5% procc rate.
I cast immolate, incinerate, incinerate, incinerate, incinerate conflag and start over.
Let's just calculate this on incinirates, to make it easy.
Procc / 100 spells = 5 / 100 = 1 / 20 -> 20 incins -> 2.5 sec * 20 = 50 sec.
1 procc / 50 seconds.
10 seconds 130 spelldmg -> 4 incins = 10 seconds -> 130 * 4 = 520 / 20 = 26
So all in all: This procc in theory would be worth as much as 26 spelldmg / spell constantly.
This results in the chests new stats:
23 stam
26 int
21 spirit
53 spellpower
20 crit
Not bad at all anymore.
Remember this is calculated on a firelock spamming incinerates. The fact remains thou, I gain additional dmg from the tick on immolate and the conflag aswell. so for me in theory when you do the whole mathematical calculation on everything this is worth atleast 30 spelldmg if not more. Making the robe worth as much as 57-60 passive spelldmg.
Have fun, the robe rocks.
Signed
Morre - 70 Warlock - Talnivarr EU - < Booty Bay Bullies >
评论来自
Allakhazam
it's Karazhan you stupid piece of crap.
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol.. DnT members need to get laid, asap
评论来自
Allakhazam
Drops off of Nightbane, last boss of Kharazan.
Gratz to DnT for first kill.
评论来自
Allakhazam
like a shadowpriest item
but then why so much crit and not some hit or more dmg?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just don't get it: some blues out of hellfire citadel, coilfang reservoir and/or elite quests easily outclass some of the T1 pieces, sometimes even T2 or the non-set items from MC and BWL.
if you compare the effort needed to get them, you feel like you've waisted your time with raiding (I'm glad that i've been in a great raiding group, where fun was far more important than items).
but then on the other hand, take those new lvl 70 epics (at least some, maybe a lot of them). it just is NOT that much better, as I would expect it.
look at this robe... it has "a lot of" armor (for a cloth item), and nice stats.
but what i really care about as a mage is +spelldamage and + spell critical strike. both is just on par with "old" lvl 60 epic items.
of course, there is one bonus more in form of a chance on hit, that increases spell damage even more.
but personally i don't like stats which are dependent on luck because they have the habit to fail when needed the most ;)
(last but not least, the actual impact of such effects heavily depends on how often they actually proc.)
to sum things up: can anybody tell me, why I should use this over a questreward from hellfire peninsula which has nearly twice as much +spelldamage?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Alright let me explain something. This procs A LOT.
It procs all the time, I rarely go without it proccing every 10 seconds. I wear it, I have 833 spell damage unbuffed. That's more than most of you could boast. I'm generally in the top 3 on damage meters for raids. This doesn't drop on accident. At least one person did some math.
<3 Toodles.
评论来自
Thottbot
I would love to have such buffs even if its just 5%, +130 dmg buff is just like a power up trinket.
评论来自
Thottbot
The buff you get from this chest is called Karazhan Caster Robe - pretty funny.
评论来自
Thottbot
this robe is just junk, hardly ever procs...
something like <5% chance. so dps-wise this robe
is way below spellfire robe GG for karazhan caster loot
评论来自
Thottbot
proc: 130 dmg for 10 sec, procrate 5%
This robe for a
scorch spamming mage (1,5 sec cast)
:
Will proc on average once every 20 scorches, which means it will be active 10 out of every 30 seconds (30 seconds to cast 20 scorches). Thus this robe has an average of
32+(130/3) = 75 dmg
when comparing to other robes for a scorchspammer
This robe for a
fireball spamming mage (3 sec cast)
:
Will proc on average once every 20 fireballs, which means it will be active 10 out of every 1 minute (1 min to cast 20 fireballs). Thus this robe has an average of
32+(130/6) = 54 dmg
when comparing to other robes for a fireballspammer
This robe for a
frostbolt spamming mage (2,5 sec cast)
:
Will proc on average once every 20 frostbolts, which means it will be active 10 out of every 50 seconds (50 seconds to cast 20 frostbolt). Thus this robe has an average of
32+(130/5) = 58 dmg
when comparing to other robes for a frostboltspammer
Of course, in a real sitation, you wont normally just cast scorch or fireball. But this gives you an idea. The shorter the cast you use, the better the robe. With the nice crit (from the stats and the int) and the proc this is a good robe for a scorchspamming mage with crit dependant trinkets (lightning capacitor f.ex) and talents (spell power), though if you are a tailor
spellfire robe is better for pure dps
(thanks to sockets).
评论来自
Thottbot
I have this robe as a warlock im thinking of combining it with spellstrike and tier 4 gloves and shoulders to give me 3 items that proc dmg bonuses ftw.
it don't proc that much and aoeing with hellfire dosent set it off its right after a spell cast it procs.
评论来自
Thottbot
Dear dorchy,
I believe I was looking at this little post when I spotted something interesting. You claimed a mage who had 12k mana unbuffed was either lying or had no spell damage.
Ever heard of arcane mages, mmm?
You see, we have this WONDERFUL little talent that makes 25% of all our intel go to spell damage...and all our intel is increased by 15% to begin with...so I have 12.5k mana unbuffed, 13.166k with Arc Int, and around 15.45k mana with raid buffs and pots on. Completely unbuffed, I have around 700 spell damage, buffed and it moves closer to 800. Not bad spell damage with nothing but +8int gems in his sockets, neh? So please, look at the tree before telling someone about their class...it's kinda like telling an arms warrior that he cannot dps because they're spec is only good for PvP, and then listening to them laugh when they have #1 on the damage meter.
Leontrotsy
Baelgun
Combustible Comrade and Magical Marxist 50/11/0
评论来自
Thottbot
Dear Carissa,
Where in there, pray tell, did I say that fire mages were worse than arcane mages? Nowhere. I leveled from 1-70 fire spec and I adore it. It really is better for DPS. My POINT was that I could still have 12k mana and higher than "no spell damage". No, my spell damage is not great compared to most fire mages. Yes, my crit chance is pathetic compared to both fire mages
AND frost mages. Do I enjoy Slow, uninterruptable Arcane Missles and a 5k insta pyro every three minutes? HELL YES. Eventually, I plan on respeccing back to my luvverly fire spec that I had before, but for now I'd like to ejoy my spec without people on my back for joining the "crappy spec".
Leontrotsky
Baelgun
Magical Marxist and Combustible Comrade
50/11/0
评论来自
Thottbot
rofl i got this robe last night it didnt proct much with fireball or frostbolt well not as much as i had hope for,but the crit increase in my spells were awesome
as for aoe its the BOMB im (arcane/frost 29.06%crit,over 1k dmg,over 10k mana unbuffed 3/5 t5)and farming aoe style with this on its a crazy amt of dmg seeing that it procts almost instantly
with these dmg gears i just improve crit and it wks out perfect FOR AOE boss fights are totally diff gears lol, well hope this post helps u ppl who lf info on Robe of the Elder Scribes
peace
评论来自
Thottbot
what alot of people that dont realize about mages is that there are a few things you have to know about the class:
1)there are 3 types of specs you can be:
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mage/talents.html?2300550000230150330125050501201230200000000000000000000000000000000
40/21so you talent for mindmastery. this spec should be used for under +800dmg. while at this spec you should really be attempting to stack +dmg, not +int as it takes 4int to make +1dmg, a common misconception many new raiding mages make.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mage/talents.html?2300050000000000000000050521201230333105312510030000000000000000000
10/48/3, deep fire. between 800-1000+dmg this spec should be used, as fireballs should be hitting for an average of 1.7-2k dmg, and critting for 2.5k+another 40%. make sure that your %crit for fire is appx 30%, or your mana will be drained incredibly fast. the thing to remember about being a fire mage is that you should start with scorchx5, then fire blast, fireballx2, and fireblast will be off cd by about .4seconds.
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/mage/talents.html?2550050300230150333125005023201000000000000000000000000000000000000
48/13, arcane spec. this spec should only be used for 1000+dmg, as 10/48/3 will cause too much threat and you will possibly pull aggro on the boss, even with salv. the threat coefficient is only .4, meaning only 40% of the dmg you do is turned into threat. the strategy for arcane mages is to arc blast x2, arc missile, wait appx .5seconds, then start casting arc blast. this should be timed so that the debuff wears off before arc blast is finished casting, giving a 1.8second casting time for the cheapest mana cost. a commmon misconception as arcane spec is to scorch between arcane blasts. arc missiles should hit like a truck for 1k dmg a tick, and crit for 1.8k. this is a huge amount of dmg, and not only that but scorch is mana inefficient dmg wise compared to arc missiles. each time arc missiles does dmg, it has a 10%chance to proc clearcasting. this is true of scorch too, but scorch will not hit as hard as arc missiles and will not crit for as much either.
2) a mana pool of over 10k is not necessary. evocation with raid buffs should restore 4-5k mana, and mana emeralds and rubies should be used along with mana pots to keep your mana pool up. while mana pots are expensive, you cant expect to simply sit there and wand a boss to death, it just wont work.
3)+hit is more important than +crit. a raid boss has a 17%chance to resist spells. +crit is only put in because blizz knows you will only remember your biggest crits, and then +crit will suddenly become the most important thing to you. if you cast 10fireballs each for 2k, thats 20k dmg. say you have a 7%chance to hit. thats 10% of the dmg will be resisted by the raid boss. 2k dmg, or one fireball is completely wasted. an extra 10% to crit is not as important as 10% to hit, but you should not top out at more than 15-17% to hit as any more is a waste. there is no such thing as a 100%hit rate.
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Got it yesterday on my first NB kill, i was only spelldmg in the raid lol :) proc is amazing great in someways
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I am having a hard time thinking anything is better then my frozen shadow weave set- the damage really, is the only thing keeping me from replacing. Am I being stupid?
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I have an alt thats a smite priest on the Earthen ring server (Sunrunner), thats in a guild that does up to TK, Having been told Id be allowed to at least do Kara as a smite priest when my alt is ready(Pretty sure Ill have to be a healer or Shadow after that), Im aiming for these robes, Now I haven't RAIDED as LolSMite, but in 5 mans, PvP, and solo leveling I do very well, though im a mana *!@#$, Id imagine this would be very good piece. Would I roll against a mage for it? Yes. We're both doing offensive spellcasting that doesnt rely o;n dots, if the mage is fire or arcane, we both have OOM issues, and the biggest point, we both would use it very effectively.
If you think ITS A WASTE ON PRIESTS!, that's fine, you may be right, BUT since my guild doesnt have any mages that would want this over T4 or T5, it would go to me if ever I see it. and if you ask "why not get T4 priest dps instead?" T4 doesnt add spellcrit on the chest, and Im basing my whole build, and all my gear on the Surge of Light proc for mana effeciency, so I dress like a mage would.
If it doesnt work out for me, well then your right when you say this is a waste on a Smite priest, BUT if I'm right, well then, I will stand beside Boomkins, and Elemental Shammies as the "little off-spec that could"
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this procs with idol of unseen moon
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=33510/
隐月神像 for a total of 240+ spell dmg. very nice for moonkin. i'd say it procs together w. the idol once every 10 spells..
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I'm a raid spec shadow priest...
Got this a couple nights ago puging in another guilds run. By my observation this thing proc'ed at least 2 times a minute during my regular spell rotation. Bear in mind, can proc on EVERY mind flay, every dot cast, mind blast, and sw:d. I can tell you first hand this thing destroys the FSW robe in terms of damage based on the proc rate alone. The base damage and +hit on FSW might make it more desirable in certain situations but in a fast fight where aggro is not a problem and I can cast freely, the proc rate on this thing is insane.
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Destro Lock -- I got this last night. We have been running and clearing Kara for about 6 months now and this is the first time it has dropped..gawd such a terrible rate. Anyway, with this, T4 set bonus(+135 Shadow, or Fire) Darkmoon Card - Crusade and Icon of the Silver Crescent I get up and over 1500dps when they all proc. The stats aren't ridiculous but the it procs so often its totally worth it. I dont think Ill be throwing 100 badges at the chest piece in sunwell plateau now.
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cant be 5%
ive been using this for a while now, i think its far more than 5%, i seem to ALWAYS have the buff on (im resto and my LB is a 2.5s cast) so it seems to be around 20-25% for me
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I'm a shadowpriest and got this last week. The proc rate is insane, it procs on almost every trash fight, and quite a few times during a bossfight. It's a great robe.
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I have this on a afflict lock with 2 tier 4 pieces and i must say that this with the 2 tier 4 pieces procs a lot.... for those of you who know wat 2 pieces in t4 proc for.
Adds about 270 extra spell dmg :)
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ok so i just got this on my last kara run. its great it did lower my spell damige but increased my crit and my stats i replace the vermillion robe that drops from the last boss in sv and after i had put the robes on they proced like 6/10 times! its was great.
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