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评论来自
3159
Nice rogue or fury warrior mace.
评论来自
6494
Good mainhand for combat rogues.
评论来自
7343
This is so good, take a look at the stats 1 % crit 90 HP and 20 AP, it's almost as good as Claw of The black drake from Firemaw. A very nice item, and it's pretty easy to get compared to claw of the black drake. Sand polished hammer or Claw of the black drake in main hand for a fury warrior/sword rogue is very very good compared to other weapons in MC//ZG.
评论来自
7798
This is a very good weapon for ANY fury warrior or mace rogue. Same stats as Core Hound Tooth but looks amazing. Drops off the last boss in AQ20, Ossirian.
评论来自
58228
Looks like a toaster, but other than that (and maybe because of that) I wear mine around cities, along with my misplaced servo arm and full dreadmist.
评论来自
Thottbot
/sigh, a whole bunch of new stuff appears at the same time as AQ opens... cant put 2 and 2 togather? oh well. on a side note, im about 88% sure that this is the hammer in the bottom left of
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/imageviewer.html?/info/underdev/1p9/
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www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/1p9/shiftingsands.html
评论来自
Thottbot
Whoever has the dkp will get this, if they choose to. There is no randoming for items like this.
As a rogue, I would consider spending my dkp on this, because it's the best rogue mace in the game, after Spineshatter.
评论来自
Thottbot
"Since when would a mace rogue with this deal equal to or more damage than a sword/dagger specced one with decent weapons?"
Apparently I havent hit you with my spineshatter yet...
anyway they have never seen a mace spec rogue. Those of you who have know what IM talking about.
This mace have it be, is wanted by every class that can use a mace. There is absolutely no doubt about that.
This and the other new mace added to AQ one 40 man and one 20 man are both very good maces. This one in particular is unique because it can be used as either a main hand option or a off hand option. Stats and its attack speed make it viable as both. Me personally I main hand a spineshatter as a mace spec rogue but have to off hand a brut blade during MC / BWL which Id gladly lay down for this weapon.
Think about it. A brutality blade is the most common off hand sword for a sword speced rogue. *Chromatically tampered and vis kag main of course. Brut blade has a 2.5 attack speed. yeah this mace is .1 slower, but the dps and stats are much better for both a fury warrior (though maybe a bit slow still for a fury warrior from what Ive seen) and a mace spec rogue.
Regardless you guys can keep argueing who deserves this weapon. But you are only making yourself look dumb. The person who disagrees with your class getting it in the post above or below yours, isnt in your guild, isnt in your raid, and isnt bidding agaist you. So grow up.
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm not going to say that no other class could use this weap. But I can give you plenty of reasons why if a rogue wants it, it would be kind of you and appreciated if you bowed out.
First off, despite popular belief, not all rogues like daggers and bush/bs. I personally don't; Too much energy, unless you have a tank that you have to pry agro off of with the jaws of life, it's a pain getting behind a mob that is bouncing around like a tenis ball, because nukers are trigger happy. Same goes for in a BG, fighting someone that is already engaged in combat. And if you play horde, have fun even trying to find the mob in a huddle of fat tauren warrior ass.
Second, There are tons of maces for casters that can use them, frustratingly for the longest time, with better dps than what a rogue has to choose from. I actually considered going for a hand of ed before, but would feel terrible if anyone ever inspected me. Just about every single melee mace craps out at around 40 dps, which is cool if you just hit lvl 60, but crap once you finished getting out of greens. There are a handful of decent one handed maces, but either statted for casters or insanely difficult to attain without a powerful guild (and damn alliance for getting a nice pvp mace as a reward, while us horde rogues get the shaft).
Finally this mace has the perfect chemistry for a mace rogue. Since bliz made the attempt to stear rogues from going for slow weaps instead of the various other speed weaps (which failed, as now, rogues have to focus on even fewer weaps), the ideal weap for a combat rogue is the highest dps, high end damage weap, with a speed around 2.4 so as not to sac dps. Offhand should be the exact opposite focusing primarilly on the quickest speed without sacrificing dps. This mace screams at me.
This is a rogue mace, not to say noone else could benefit from it; But other classes have plenty of other things to choose from, where as a combat mace rogue has slim pickings.
评论来自
Thottbot
i feel bad for all you suckers who read this crap.. i just look for a cool pic lol, have fun
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok... ok... this IS a decent weapon for many different classes, especially fury warriors and rogues, however, let me make my point as to why this should go to a mace rogues hands before others. (If you have no mace rogues, which definetely isn't uncommon, then this post is probably pointless to you.)
This IS, not maybe, THE best rogue mace in the game. Mainhand this with Anubisath Warhammer and you are set for quite a while. Sure, it's viable for fury warriors, but they have SO much to choose from. And don't give crap about mace rogues sucking hardcore, there's a reason they put the spec in there, and I personally prefer stuns in PvP and certain PvE mobs. Spineshatter is pretty much on par with this, however, warriors have a tendency to take it over Quel for whatever reason, so that isn't much of an option either.
评论来自
Thottbot
this thingy +
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=52961
nice combo for mace rogue i guess :>
评论来自
Thottbot
On the odd chance that your raid has a mace spec rogue, do the right thing and pass it to him. This is one of a very small selection of weapons that's good for him.
Other than that, whoever wants to pick this up should be allowed to. I see no reason why this is particularly special for any class. Fury warriors want fast weapons. Tanks want fast weapons with stamina and defense. Druids can get a much better feral weapon from AQ with their class quest reward. Paladins use 2-handers to DPS. Enh-shamans only use 1-handers when fighting warriors or rogues (and then we're better off with a +spell damage one-hander and a good shield) or sometimes in casual instances (and if you're downing Ossarian, you no longer need to be gearing yourself for UBRS). Aside from a rogue, everybody's got better options and shouldn't be whining about another class picking this up.
评论来自
Thottbot
Good common sense come to thottbot at last!
评论来自
Thottbot
I dont know why anyone would doubt a macespec rogue like posts above said. I like the others above am a Combat specced rogue. i dont have the extra points in the stun chance cause i like to benefit from passive skills that are working constantly. for a combat rogue tho this is a great weapon, got mine the other day.
评论来自
Thottbot
Fury Warriors would make very good use of this weapon.
评论来自
Thottbot
Hemo rogues? Anyone remember them :P The rogue review didn't change combat or assassination trees much, but hemo is an awesome pvp tree now. Personal raid damage will go down as compared to a combat daggers build for sure, but you will boost all other physical dps, including tanks damage with hemo.
Thats another story though. This weapon is good for hemo/mace rogues and for fury warriors. Who should get it first? That depends on your dkp/loot allocation.
Fury warriors, just remember that this is an *awesome* mace for rogues. They're not going to replace it till chromatically tempered sword. This is better than Vis'kag and Brut Blade. Remember that hemo is unaffected by speed normalization, so if you can think of any swords or maces that are 2.6speed or slower and drop anywhere other than Naxx or AQ40, and are better stat and dps wise, do tell. Fury warriors can opt for a Brut Blade without losing much, the 0.1 speed difference hurts hemo rogues a lot more, with the difference in hemo damage increasing as your AP gets higher.
If you're going to post a rebuttal to me for some weird reason, save yourself the indignity and research how hemo works and how powerful hemo rogues are in pvp, and their decent damage in pve. Fury warrs can use this, rogues can use this. But nice warriors will let rogues get first pick on it, because they will understand that hemo/rogue mace itemization is pretty damn poor.
评论来自
Thottbot
I won this hammer for i dont know many months ago.
i was fury warrior and whit this hammer and my fury gear i did out dps many many rouges whit hole t2 and some rly good gear i had 2k+ ap in raids and did massive dmg.. if u ask me rouges in raids should hold on to daggers and warrios should have this mace but then in pvp i hate when rouges are mace specc.. but now in TBC warrios do awsome dps whit decent gear and 2h wpn. warrior ftw
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is like one of the best fury warrior 1H's out there so i would surely spend alittle dkp on this badboy:p
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am a mace speced rogue and i use an Empyrean Demolisher
苍穹击碎者
guild has said i can have the first sand polished hammer when it drops (killed him 6 times). Is it a good idea to use this weapon for offhand? the reason is the stats.... but i can see how i'm gimping myself cause of the top dmg difference...I think i'm going to mH this... but what is a good oH for it then... the demolisher is mH only too..
and no i do not have access to theat 1.8 mace in aq40
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it on the first horde kill on spinebreaker. Its pretty pimp esp when combines with my Anubisath Warhammer.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Its clearly dps warrior weapon, rogue shouldnt specc for mace. It simply sux, especially for pve.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Pic:
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1366/sand5qk.jpg
deathbringer in MH
sand polished in OH
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am one of the only mace rogues on my server. I have been using a Spineshatter and Sand Polished Hammer for some time. They are a great combo, the sand polished is basically the combat rogues CHT. They both hit hard, and I have gotten a lot of compliments on the way it looks, and hits. I am not THAt well geared and can get offhand white crits for over 600. (730 unbuffed ap about)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Keep it and wait for naxx thrash drop :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
^^ AQ20 end boss
评论来自
Allakhazam
OMG ITS FATMECH
评论来自
Allakhazam
This would be a great weapon for me to offhand with my Spineshatter for my mace spec. Any ideas where it comes from?
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://i1.tinypic.com/o6lp39.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
I might be a n00b but MAce-spec doesn't suck for PvE since 1.12 right?
评论来自
Allakhazam
nene, rogues not allowed please..
HAMMERTIME!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Kac if you are to stupid to think than dont write.
Its a powerful Rogueweapon!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Pwnage fury warrior wep.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm a duel wield fury Warrior. I absoluetly love this thing.
All these stats both duel wield fury warriors and rogues can make good use of.
Both Duel wielding fury warriors and rogues can use this mace equally.
The stats are amazing for both. Therfor in my opinion there is no priority.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Where does this drop? It is the first ray of light for combat/mace rogues in AQ. Everything else has favored daggers so far.
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hammar6od.jpg
My hammer
Edited, Mon Mar 6 00:29:26 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Personal Opinion here, but I feel that bad boy got wasted on someone who wields chromatically tempered Sword.
I would rather see it MH, on a Mace Spec Rogue. Like Me >.< but hey. we down Ossirian again tonight or tomorrow. so hopefully I will get mine this week
Edited, Tue Mar 21 15:24:24 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
got this for my rogue and its very useful for wut my spec is hemo/coldblood becuz of my spec i dont have that high chance of a crit so i depend on alot of agil/AP/+%crit and this mace is great for it
评论来自
Allakhazam
awesome wep for rouges and fury warrs, not a bad tanking wep either
评论来自
Allakhazam
AQ 20 man :) just think of that being the 20man can u imagine the 40-man drops ? o.o anyway, these instances will be way harder than we are most known to.. i heard the 40man is like armageddon beside BWL..
评论来自
Allakhazam
STOP TAKING THIS, WARRIORS.
评论来自
Allakhazam
阿努比萨斯战锤
offhand =P
评论来自
Allakhazam
STOP TAKING THIS FROM THE ROGUES, WARRIORS.
评论来自
Allakhazam
My guild should be starting Ossirian soon. We just started AQ and are making fairly good progress. I'm looking forward to having a chance to get this, I use to dream about it when I was mace-spec'd. I'm currently 31/18/2 and using the brut blade as a main hand. I would definitely consider this an upgrade. I'm considering dual-wielding it with the Vis'kag if it ever drops ;).
As far as mace spec'd rogues: I use to be mace spec'd, it's fun for PvP. The stun seemed to always proc right after my kidney shot wore off. Mace spec could also be nice for PvE seeing it gives you +5 maces, which increases your overall damage. This would be nice on a human rogue, who has Mace Specialization as a racial, because you would have +10 maces... I have yet to try it as a level 60 human rogue but I'm definitely planning on it when BC comes out. I just can't give up SF /love.
As far as + to weapon skill, I'm not positive how much extra damage it gives, but I think +5 is about 30 damage (if anyone knows for sure please correct me)? I'd assume this depends on the weapon. And of course it helps your chance to hit ;).
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Allakhazam
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