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评论来自
4879
Pretty nice for druids imo.
评论来自
Dermody
Yeah I am 70 and I still havent come accross a better helm for tanking.
评论来自
51372
An ultimate feral druid tanking helm. Slap an additional
1% dodge
and this helm rocked. Drops from the Trio, and can drop off of each mob so the kill order wouldn't matter, you would still have a chance for this to drop!
(Some specific items only drop from certain members of the Bug Trio. If a guild wanted a chance for a specific item to drop they had to kill the mob that dropped that item
last
, which is easier said than done)
评论来自
Thottbot
very high armor and stamina so it would be good feral druid, BUT rogue's can also use it effectively in PVP although we dont really want the 1% to dodge
评论来自
Thottbot
Is essential to a Rogue, regardless of the price that you will pay against a warrior.
Dodge = Overpower.
However dodge means you can avoid = Hamstring, Raptor Strike, Herioc Strike, Execute, Wing Clip, Sinster Strike, Eviscerate, Riptose, Gouge, Kidney Shot, Rupture, Backstab (Don't ask how), Ambush, Cheap Shot, SoC hits, Windflurry proc, Rend, Bloodthirst, Whirlwind, Cleave, Mortal Strike and others.
Anyone who plays a rogue and dismisses dodge because of a single attack is an idiot. It's like abandoning +healing because Mortal Strike cuts it in half.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is a helluva piece for a feral druid, I mean if this were plate with a bunch more armor warriors would be goin nuts right? Its probably an AQ drop, seeing as it just opened and theres no post before a day or 2 before this one. Dont be a greedy rogue, if you have a feral druid give them priority, and props for being in a guild that allows a feral druid to run high level raids.
评论来自
Thottbot
Wow, that would be sweet. Being someone who stopped just shy of Field Marshal, I've been looking in vain for some other head piece I could use instead and had just about given up hope, but this gives me something to look forward to.
评论来自
Thottbot
this would be awesome for bear form tanking.
High armour + str, agi stam and + dodge. with the lack of block/parry for druids + dodge is what they need for tanking. It would also be great for cat form.
But as the poster above said. whoever has the most DKP will win.
评论来自
Thottbot
That piece is just insanely good for a tanking feral druid, or even a cat form druid.
19 Agi = all the usual bonuses
17 str x 20% = 40 AP in cat form
36 stam x 20% = 430 Hit points in bear form
250 x 4.6 = 1150 armor(!) in bear form (more if they have to talent to increase base armor by 10%)
1% dodge = who the heck wouldnt want to get hit less?
In short, rogues do not get the same benefits from it that a druid does. Those numbers are INSANE for a tanking druid.
but as one of the posters said, if you are raiding AQ, you have a very good guild, one that uses DKP, which means whoever bids highest gets it. Still, benefits a feral druid more than a rogue, imho.
BTW, fun comment on the name, last I checked it's generally animals that "devour" things .
评论来自
Thottbot
clearly a druid item. period.
评论来自
Thottbot
What it boils down to is: every rogue on here posting about it, aside from the troll w/ the pic (who i can guarantee didn't loot over a druid, but looted for fun when noone needed), is not in an end game raiding guild.
If you raid, if you spend dkp, if you are a team, you would not bid on this item over a druid. A rogue would not *waste* his dkp on an item like this when there is clearly better options for their class.
It's not as if we roll with a bunch of Shadowcraft noobs into AQ and /random on loot. Those operating inside of AQ40 are operating at a level of play that renders discussions like this moot.
This item is our item. It is a Druid item.
Envy it.
Our time has come.
评论来自
Thottbot
i am a druid , and gief this :O hight stamina, hight armor +dodge! imba for bear tanking
评论来自
Thottbot
The record values for stamina and armour make this the best cap for the tanking dire bear.
Blizzard adds more and more content that makes the simple raids of the last summer obsolete ... like bosses that polymorph their target incl. aggro reset (Jin'do - only Druids in animal form are polymorph-immune and can tank as dire bear with least problems).
So every 40-raid should have one or two druids that have tanking experience from 5-10 groups and interest to be dire bear tanks if the raid encounters a boss that's designed to drive warriors mad.
These druids should get this cap first, just like MT1 and MT2 got their +defense gear with priority.
Same with some other easily identifiable druid tanking gear.
评论来自
Thottbot
it is good for each class so if this dropped for me i would let both druids and rogues roll on it. but i do think it was meant slightly more feral druids
评论来自
Thottbot
rogues, get bloodfang
评论来自
Thottbot
If you can even get into AQ 40 and have a decent chance at taking down any bosses your prolly already doing onyxia and BWL some what and thus You can already have a Bloodfang helm and prolly some other nice bloodfang to go with it for some nice set bonuses with it.
Now a feral druid on the other hand will be running with their guild and Will have been passing on Stormrage and everything else that has set bonuses because that gear sucks for feral druids.
The Rogue that would take this helm over getting there bloodfang should be condemed to never getting set bonuses like a feral druid has to walk down that path.
It makes sence to give items that better suit a certian class IE rogue druid mage priest whatever the item first.
评论来自
Thottbot
NO1 can argue that ferals dont benefit more than rogue on that NO1! ATTENTION ROGUES, if u dont choose BF or NS over this please quit... also u may have to find a new guild if u try to take this from a feral druid IF there is a TRUE feral in the raid. BUT, this should go to rogues, and hell, hunters over resto druids who can get cenarion and stormrage. DKP does matter but if everyone were to have enough DKP for it, the list of who it goes to is : FERAL druids, rogues, then if ur desperate...hunter/resto druid(although it wont be passed on by both ferals and rogue)
and a lil PS for all the little noobs who pst about druids not needing agility... druids get +to crit +to dodge, +to ARMOR, and + to AP
:D
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm readin comments on weapons and armors in this excelent website but i'm tired of reding posts about who is this weapon/armor for.
WHO GIVES A ^&*!
There are more than 6.5M players for WOW over the world. Each of dem want nice weps... You all dont agree but 99% of these posts go over and over again on the same topics.
What you are saying here will not make things change at all. %^&*in ninjas will stay ^&*!in ninjas...
Please give information like:
- how th item proc
- what is the results
- show pictures
- any constructive comments but no more arguing !
评论来自
Thottbot
Or attempt to rather...
Agility: our main attribute, duh.
Stamina: keeps us alive, which on occasion, can be nice
Strength: nice for a little extra attack power... but not that good overall.
DODGE: ABSOLUTELY FREAKING USELESS IN PVE
If we do our job right and dont pull aggro, we dont have to worry about dodging, i am rarely attacked while in a raid. This should go to a feral druid IMO, unless a rogue really wants it and has more dkp... then the druids can spam moonfire on him.
评论来自
Thottbot
hands down, best tanking helm for duids
评论来自
Thottbot
This helm is great for a feral druid. Wondeful in Bear form and not too bad for cat form. Wish the graphic was a little better, but you don't see it anyway when you are a bear.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is the best feral helm in the game 250 armor, and all the strength, a rogues and idiot if they want this...ZOMG 1 dodge...go get bf helm or another helm with a lot of agi, leave the druids' high str/armor pcs alone...thx
评论来自
Thottbot
A question to those who actually beat Vem:
How difficult are the 3 really?
What level of equip, experience etc. should a raid have to take them down?
Because I'd kill to get this for my offtank druid ;)
评论来自
Thottbot
This is a feral druid item, but can also be used by tanking rogues *sarcasm* ... This would be the end-game head-piece i want! I SO WISH Blizzard would make some good feral druid pieces that said "Classes: Druid", because rogues get all the items we need for our gear. There are some feral stuff marked for druids, but they are not pure feral, there is always some intellect/spirit/+healing on them! I want pure physical damage and sta/def/armor!
When a rogue says "A druid is a healer, and nothing else! Feral druids has nothing with PvE to do", it pisses me so off!
评论来自
Thottbot
whats it look like?
评论来自
Thottbot
http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/shred.jpg
Shredder wants his helmet back!
评论来自
Thottbot
Only real reason id want this is for pvp. I have southwind helm atm which is better for me as a rogue. Havent had a chance to get bf yet but i would rather have that over this any day.If your that desparate for a helm try out southwind helm. Drops in aq 20 and pretty easy to get. Also makes for a pretty good feral helm.
评论来自
Thottbot
Normally in AQ when u fight lord kri, vem, and princess yauj u have to kill one of them last to get special loot, however no matter which one u kill last u can get this helm, they all drop it, i recomend for the best loot possible that u kill lord kri last, yes this is very difficult but still possible. Lord kri drops a swift vest of execution =D awesome vest. but only if u kill him last and yauj and vem die first.
评论来自
Thottbot
Enough QQ
We've Said Enough Haven't We ?
Druid / Rogue...
Druid: Feral tanking Item.
Rogue:My opinion is that they should wear this for PvP.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this today and I'm a very happy druid ^_^. None of the rogues had any complaints about a me getting this item. One of the priest actually said something like "Oh good the tank got it".
http://www.hangaari.org/MDK/wow/Guise.jpg
Edited, Mon Mar 13 03:56:53 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
If rogues actually got heals from druids in pvp, they wouldn't need the additional hp on this. Too bad, so sad.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Human female rogue just got this on Sylvanas. No Druids or other Rogues wanted it so I took it on the strength of its Power Rangers looks. Now my eyes match my blue bug.
评论来自
Allakhazam
It seems that there are 3 types of rogues
Type1: Whinges about why druids get any gear that they would mildly suit even though they could get much better
Type2: Asks why there even is feral gear
Type3: Accually doesn't mind that there is some feral gear and acepts it considering there is better for them
Which Type sounds more Mature you tell me
评论来自
Allakhazam
As a rogue, i completely agree that this would benefit feral druids far more than it would us. As was stated, the deathdealer's helm from the quests is much better, and so is the bloodfang hood. If you're in a guild that can get this far in aq, then you shouldn't have any problem downing ony for the bf helm, or farming aq for the items needed to get your deathdealer.
评论来自
Allakhazam
on a rogue
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is for rogues only. /shoo druids
dodge and stamina is a rogues only defense beside vanish. and it also gives ok stats
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is clearly for feral druids. Rogues will have even for items suited for them in the depts of AQ.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it yesterday. Absolutely awsome Head piece for feral druid...
...yet the first one to make me turn off Helm graphics...
OMFG THIS LOOKS UGLYYYYY! So bloody Star Trekish!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Obviously it's not too shabby for either rogues or druids... rogues <3 stamina as well. I just think that Blizz has geared this towards druids based on the insane amount of armor... Dire Bear and thick hide make this... well... it's so good it should be illegal. Just imagine this combined with Malfurion's Blessed Bulwark. LET THE DAMAGE MITIGATION BEGIN!
评论来自
Allakhazam
ohh yes... feral tank ftw..
gogo bears!
评论来自
Allakhazam
They made it ugly to make the druids actually want to go into bearform, which itself is fakking ugly, so i let the druids choose, cockroach or bear with misplaced muscles.
As a rogue myself... this is feral druid and NOTHING else.
评论来自
Allakhazam
enough already, too powerful items as it is.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I love how now all of the sudden almost any nice leather is for FERAL druids. Go heal me and let me do the dmg. How many druids are needed to tank in AQ. Thought so.
1) I would NEVER heal you, you'd have the most insanely high repair bill on earth, anyone who'd target someone as disrespectful to other classes as you are, is insane.
2) last time I saw an extra 100 armor or so help a rogue was ... never.
3) I've been called on to tank in AQ20 and I've tanked adds in 40 as well to keep the swarmguards and warriors that spawn off twin emps trash from molesting our priests.
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img115.imageshack.us/full.php?image=guise8qz.jpg
~Skullcrusher~
评论来自
Allakhazam
This looks so much cooler on tauren. More like a kabuki helm, or a pharoah headdress than a power ranger helmet.
评论来自
Allakhazam
pic?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Let the druids have this one, concidering that the
Deathdealer's Helm
is far better that this for a rogue, and they will get it while the druids gets this one.
Every druid with the slighest respect for his feralness would kill for this one.
评论来自
Allakhazam
now THIS would be nice on a feral druid. Although if the feral druid had it or better, it would be nice on a rogue, 17 str and 19 agil, dont forget that rogue are different. They get dmg boost from both sr and agi so this would be pretty nice.
评论来自
Allakhazam
That's totally Druid 8)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Clearly an item intended for Bear Tanking. Any Rogue that would equip this would gimp themself since there are equivalent uber loot for them in AQ.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm thinking this would be pretty nice for Rogues as well
评论来自
Allakhazam
Oh my...oh my...oh my...
"Dear Blizz, give us an occasion to have more dmg reduction, since feral/bear specced druids will now reach 20k armor without bigger problems
Regards,
Druid Community"
;)
Warrio (fullAQ) vs Bear (Full AQ). Interesting :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
I love how now all of the sudden almost any nice leather is for FERAL druids. Go heal me and let me do the dmg. How many druids are needed to tank in AQ. Thought so.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Guise
250 Armor
+36 Stamina
+19 Agility
+17 Strength
1% Dodge
Bloodfang
183 Armor (-67 Armor, oh noez)
+25 Stamina (-11) (-110 HP)
+27 Agility (+8) (+8 AP)
+19 Strength (+2) (+2 AP)
1% Crit
Last I heard Rogues like dealing damage. The Bloodfang fairly obviously offers better damage -- not to mention a possible set bonus. If I could get Bloodfang for catform I would.... but alas..
A druid gets the following from the Guise:
250 Armor x 360%+10%(talent) in Bearform!
250 Hitpoints (+5% if Tauren), necessary for Bear.
34 Attack Power (more with Heart of the Wild) in Bear.
or 53 Attack Power in Cat.
Why the hell would you obstruct who this was obviously intended for from obtaining it?
I wont even get into how much more badass the Deathdealer Helm is for rogues than this....
评论来自
Allakhazam
*Offically the bug&*!@# as of 6/26/6*
Roar, baby, roar!
No one even tried to contend me for it either.
Espically since I had JUST done an amazing job of tanking (not off tanking, MAIN tanking) the Prophet.
Silly rogue. /pat
评论来自
Allakhazam
This can cause to the adavantage to rogues and druids in many ways. Althou i am a rogue i would say mainly feral druid in bear form use ! thats just my opinion its nice for sword rogues thou i mean really nice ! so theres a side for both !
评论来自
Allakhazam
Does this drop off any member of the family or does it depend on the kill order?
评论来自
Allakhazam
/puke the new sets blizz is making are becoming more and more Startreky.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Definetly a feral item rogues please go get NS or BF.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I love how now all of the sudden almost any nice leather is for FERAL druids. Go heal me and let me do the dmg. How many druids are needed to tank in AQ. Thought so.
Druids taunting Boss/Adds back to tanks from the DPS group can be handy on Sartura. And Druids can be awsome as damage soakers on Huhuran with some NR. Maybe you should actually understand the encounters before you start writing bull^&*! down :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Druids taunting Boss/Adds back to tanks from the DPS group can be handy on Sartura. And Druids can be awsome as damage soakers on Huhuran with some NR. Maybe you should actually understand the encounters before you start writing bullsh*t down :)
Go brax!
Btw how are you gonna deal dmg when you are dead since no healer will even attempt healing you because of your behaviour?
评论来自
Allakhazam
wow, those stats are very nice. a ton of stamina and a sizable amount of strength and agility.
i can already tell theres going to be conflict between feral druids and rogues who feel one or the other deserve it more. something tells me hunters will get in the mix too.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Being a bear tank; I can say - this is the
best bear head piece currently in the game,
hands down. It got insane AC (With talents
we get five times the original armor value,
in bear form), it got insane stamina, it got
+dodge (only way to compensate for lack of
parry), and it got both strenght + agility,
which is mainly for aggro control but agility
also provides some dodge and armor.
This is the ultimate head piece for a bear tank,
it's the perfect head slot item. It's as good
as it gets, so stop whining about druids and
loot, and go get your Bloodfang stuff instead,
you tiresome rogues ;)
On a sidenote, rogues shouldn't need very much
healing.. I hear they have an ability called
first aid, and that it can be used to regain
life. Then again, it's just a rumour, I wouldn't know.
*grins*
Edited, Mon Apr 17 05:19:37 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this helmet yesterday, it's really nice. Im a druid on Trollbane. (Happy drood mkay?)
Was kind of lucky, i was the onlyone who wanted this other than a Trail drood (pwnt!) so i got it :D couldn't have spent my DKP better ^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well offering you image of this helm on a female NE druid. I am not feral (19p on it), but as our feral druids were not on raid and out of 5 druids I had most points on feral side as well I am often in forms, people were cool with me bididng on it. I have already earned nickname as "Power Chicken" and "Powerranger" - the 1st one must be because I am really a balance ...
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6669/wowscrnshot0605060728330kd.jpg
Edited, Sun Jun 4 23:39:26 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it =D
评论来自
Allakhazam
Why will this %^&*! not drop my freakin' hat? 2k rep away from exhalted and have never seen the damn thing drop yet...I am getting anxious over here!
Edit: I GOT it, I fekking got it woohoo ,and on the day I got to exhalted also - I love my life.
Edited, Sep 25th 2006 at 9:30am EDT by imradil
评论来自
Nosliwe
The drop rate on this head can't be right. Last time it dropped for us was 19 November. So i have been waiting for it for 6 months next reset and the only item keeping me from full bis. We have been raiding AQ40 since the release of it and only gotten 1 head. &*!@ rng!
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