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评论来自
871
Pretty good for hunter in PvE, as the fast speed doesn't matter there, only the stats does. This some good offhander (Fang of the Faceless or Corehound Tooth) = In my wishlist to drop, asap.
Though, it might be good for fury warrior also, if they want to wield fast weapon for good rage generation.
评论来自
5487
This is a bad weapon for any class other than hunter. The speed is too fast to do a large amount of damage for a warrior or rogue. But for a hunter, the stats on it greatly improve their ranged DPS, and the melee speed of this weapon doesn't matter, for they will rarely melee.
评论来自
Stomphoof
This weapon is perfectly fine for a fury warrior. With a speed like that you could chain the crits, which in turn proc flurry more and more. Its not the best, but its not the worst either.
Hunters, Rogues, Fury Warriors all could make use of this weapon.
评论来自
9434
I have to disagree with the above poster. I had the chance to get this on my rogue, but it really doesn't stack as well. The ap and crit are nice, but It's damage range is too low. This results in lower Sinister Strike damage and much lower eviscerate crits. I prefer to stick with Claw of the Black Drake. Now if it were an offhand, this weapon would be incredible. Hunters can make the most from this weapon.
评论来自
8028
This is a great weapon for a hunter. I have one myself on mine I use sometimes for PvE. Yeah I disagree with the rogues thing too b/c they need more dps on their mainhand and dont need the attack power either.
评论来自
Boshnak
Had this been an offhand, it would be a better rogue weapon. Coupled with the fact that ups your crit and AP, say this is better for a hunter. Too bad many of the quest rewards, and drops in Outlands put items like this to shame. It sure does look cool though.
评论来自
Thottbot
http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~janpetar/wow/aq/02.jpg
评论来自
Thottbot
I made the mistake after patch 1.8 of thinking that a fast fist weapon (Eskhandar's Right Claw) would be a viable rogue weapon since it's DPS was so much greater than my old sword's. I was poorly mistaken. The increase in DPS and the proc on it didn't even come close to the DPS I had done with my old Sword of Zeal. So no, this is NOT a rogue weapon; it's a waste of a rogue's DKP.
评论来自
Thottbot
Well this weapon is ideal for furry spec'd warriors and hunters both, no need to call one another idiots and noobz. It would benefit both class because it helps build rage fast for warriors and it also would add 60 ranged attack power for a hunter after a +15 agi on it. Don't argue just bid your dkp and reward the winner.
评论来自
Thottbot
This is by no means a rogue weapon at all. I am a rogue currently wielding a claw of the black drake + core hound tooth and will tell you this myself. It's MAINHAND ONLY with a very low top dmg, while it has awesome stats and dps, the dmg range makes it very poor for a mainhand. Would be an awesome offhand, but...wait...it can't go there. This should be for a fury war/hunter by far.
and to the guy saying hunters should go get a chromatically tempered sword...please uninstall.
评论来自
Thottbot
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评论来自
Thottbot
I am a hunter and if anybody ever told me that I couldnt bid on this item I would tell them quite nicely to go jump off the tallest cliff they could find. Or at least to learn about the other classes and what benefits them. Most people are all about Hunters only need agi and a ranged wep. Well not really. A wep with 30 ap and 1% crit would tremendously help you with your ranged dps and it has alot of dmg for a melee wep which in a RAID a hunter does not do much melee if any. However your average player does more then just log on for Raids. I do pvp, solo, quest, farm, etc. And Lhok is a POS for hunters. I personally would take this and use my Fang of the Faceless, replacing my Doom's Edge.
评论来自
Thottbot
clearly hunter.. fast weapons do infact suck, because the speed have been set to 2.4or was it 2.8? anyways, that makes this really bad,cozit has 120 top damage. As a rogue i wud never use dkpon this,claw of the black drake is so much better for rogues!
评论来自
Thottbot
Well it looks to me like another awsome LOOKING fist weapon that is only OK. But sense hunters arent melee *winks* it would be great for a hunter....lol....
评论来自
Thottbot
Ofcourse a normal warrior/rogue in a non BWL/AQ raid guild will want it and put good use to it. But this is an AQ40 drop on 3rd/2nd boss.
Reasons why it is hunter:
- all our warriors have better: Windseeker, Ashkandi, Petition, Blackdrake Claw...
- all our rogues have better: Quraji Sword, Blackdrake Claw, Chromatic Sword
- Best Hunter Ranged DPS weapon: at 1% hit and 3- power, it is the best ranged dps hunter weapon
- costs DKP. Only a class that will use it will pay for it.
评论来自
Thottbot
Decided to go for one handers in the guild's last Molten Core (had been using Zin'Rokh previously and refusing one handers) and got Core Hound Tooth.
This was the first AQ40 run following that MC and I got the claw, wahey !
I love this weapon so much, check out my little mooman;
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8788/clawvx6.png
/deterrence
/raptorstrike
/moo
- Roast, Commando Cowman of Outland.
评论来自
Thottbot
Hunter weapon. Really good. Dual wield this with fang of the faceless and get azrzhuruhzrurzhurzhurztjul and u will have some extra damage. Also get agi enchant on it. It looks cool. Hunter.. the raids most safe dps.. PWNAGE
评论来自
Thottbot
I luffz my new claw! coupled it with my dragonfang blade for now
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2060/claw1fp6.jpg
评论来自
Thottbot
I guess since this boss comes before fangkriss people dont open their eyes to the rest of the instance...
If you rogues want this Im taking your AQR, kthx.
To be honest, this isnt very good dps for a MAINHAND only weapon. If it was off/onehand I'd give it a 'maybe' for rogues, but since they have sword specs and skills for daggers then they can just sit tight with the huge amounts of daggers/swords they get from everywhere else.
If your guild isnt in naxx, this weapon is the best 1hand for a hunter there is, coupled with fang of faceless, CHT, or a dooms edge if you're lucky. If you're uber like me you'll do enough dps to merit a hatchet of sundered bone and make the warriors cry more :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Classes that can use fist weapons: Druids, Hunters, Rogues, Shaman, Warriors
Classes that can put this to good use: Druids, Hunters, Rogues, Shaman, Warriors
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://members.chello.nl/r.bal2/alt.jpg
Edited, Sun Mar 12 12:44:16 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Why the !@#$ is this a mainhander?
I got cotbd and im just waiting for a SWEET off hander like this to go combat/fist, and blizzard makes it "main hand".. Good job fockers
评论来自
Allakhazam
This dropped for us yesterday.. A rogue bidded, but didn't win.
I'm a rogue myself and I must say, you're a stupid ^&*! if you bid on this as a rogue. THIS IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING A ROGUE WEAPON, I wouldn't even take it for free.
评论来自
Allakhazam
well the deal with this weapon for rogues is this, yes its decent for them in PVE due to the fact that big numbers doesnt = more dps in pve. its all about the dps/speed/stats. seeing as how alot of rogue weapons have more dps than this it is not as good for them as say the stats are for hunters. HOWEVER this is not a bad weapon for a rogue for pve because again, big numbers dont matter just alot of numbers and consistent numbers. i would not call this weapon a rogue pvp weapon in any way though... hemo with this weapon is just... well its retarded.
评论来自
Allakhazam
The best 1h weapon for hunter ranged DPS.
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol @ rogue weapon. No sane rogue would EVER spend a single dkp on this. NEVER. End of story.
In other words, diocomcatus, get a clue about how SS and normalization works.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am Combat fist spec with Claw of the black drake mainhand and brutality blade offhand. Do you guys think this is better offhand than brut blade for me?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Picture
http://www.directupload.net/show/d/620/RG6C55nJ.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
This + Fang of the Faceless + 15 Agi enchants = 2.57% Crit and 118 RATP. Oooooh yeah.
(Plus, it looks BADASS)
评论来自
Allakhazam
They should make this weapon one-hand-usable. Then this claw and the Claw of the Black Drake would combine to a very nice combo, almost similiar in strength to the best axes, swords and dagger combinations. And it would look awesome. :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
why is this main hand? i feel bad for fist specced rogues with CotBD who have no possible offhand to compliment it. I guess they made this main hand only to finally give hunters a melee weapon.
There needs to be more fist weapons though, there's only this and CotBD, both main hand.. (excluding eskhander's and the ZG one's, hardly 'high end' imo)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Main hand.
1.6 speed.
That is all.
I wouldn't roll on this if you actually paid me, given that I'm a rogue.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Has 2 more AP than Warblade of the Hakkari (main). Haven't seen any better than this, so I guess I can only hope that nobody else wants it too much. Hunters in my guild don't appresciate the Crit+Ap weapons. They're convinced that the 16Agi weapons are the best choice just because of the Lightning Reflexes.
A pity it's main hand though, I'd have to repace my Hakkari sword, and I still don't have Fang of the Faceless.
评论来自
Allakhazam
hunter item
评论来自
Allakhazam
actually, i would only wear this for the dps as a rogue... but i'm a drood, nice stats for ferals though, but the dps would have been wasted... i think furywarriors or even tankwarriors should get this thingy
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm 60 hemo/coldblood spec rogue who loves fist weapons over all other weapons i have this and its mighty powerful weapon for my spec and i have alot of fist weapons sets full Primal Blessing and Spirit of Eskhandar's also got Black Drake claw and out of all that i gotta love this over all got a lifestealing enchant with Chromo in my off-hand and all i gotta say is sure its a whicked warrior weapon but i gotta say if ur the right spec'd rogue ur a true threat with this sick weapon!
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is clearly aimed at hunters, these with +15 agility on will make us the best DPS class in the game.
评论来自
Allakhazam
really GOOD FW! got it today and i really can say that noone beat me today in a duel :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Rogues get most of there damage from white damage so you're a nub if you think that this thing is good for a rogue, normalization isnt based into the white damage part of things so this thing blows.
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is totally a weapon suited for Dual Wield Spec'd Enhancement shaman, with Shamanistic Rage popped, u can fill ur Mana bar quicker than u have the buff! Couple that with say a slow off hand like Ancient Hakkari Manslayer, and ur set!
评论来自
Allakhazam
imho
rogue: too fast for a mainhand (low crits)
warrior: Maintanks? good for aggro / fury... hmmmm
druid: feral? maybe (pvp vs pve/raid?)
hunter: clearly the best choice AFTER the MT
shaman: not realy, the most dps comes with WF proc and low weaponspeed
评论来自
Allakhazam
A guy in my guild got this last night---frostmourne FTW
评论来自
Allakhazam
Its a cool weapon....ive send a picture
评论来自
Allakhazam
Warrior all the way, then hunter
If a rogue wants, he shouldnt be in the AQ raid
(im a rogue btw)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Fury war looking at getting this. Because it's so fast, would +5 dmg actually be a better chant to get than crusader? If you have an OH that procs crusader the extra 5 dmg every 1.6 or faster could add up. What say you?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can we get a picture of this
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is the best fist wep currently in the game excluding that pimp fist wep that drops in naxx that isnt on here yet (T_T) but thats off hand=/
YES MR.UNHAPPY WAR this should go to a rogue for SS (too fast? news 4 ya speed doesnt matter ne more) rogues may think that CotBD is better because of speed but baised on the instant att. calcs this one actually comes out on top:
((min dam + max dam)/2)
-----------------------
(wep speed)
x(normalization speed*)
*daggers is 1.7 i believe
all others is 2.4 (needless to say if you just use these numbers and they are wrong you should come up with somthing near the right one so if they are wrong dont /smite me <3)
this puppy comes up at 138(rounded down) and CotBD comes up at 135(rounded down)
add on DPS and you have yourself a wep normalization # the higher the number is the better the wep is.
评论来自
Allakhazam
There is no such thing as classed weapons. Except for weapons with 'Classes: '.
Shamans could use this, or Hunters, or Warriors, it doesn't matter who, any class that can use it, use it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Keep the rogue/fury weapons coming so that we hunters can have the 2 hakkar swords for ourselfs! :P
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got mine yesterday. First Serverdrop on Frostmourne-EU
And I must say: It is veeeeery nice :)
btw me's a Hunter (:
评论来自
Allakhazam
got this on my warrior a few days ago.
upon picking it up ppl wondered why I did, got whispers " too fast, Claw of the black drake is better", " hunter fist" ,etc.
Well I can safely tell you that they kept their mouth closed when I opened up a can of whoppass with this baby.
l2p lol.
People who say you need slow weapons for fury really dont have a clue.
Unbriddled wrath is permaproccing, and it attacks with 1.23 speed flurried.
Im currently at +11% hit, 28% crit in zerk stance and 1436 AP shouted, and my character screen peaks over 600 DPS with deathwish and flurry up.
With a &*!@ty warblade of the hakkari offhand and this main, I outdps`ed all rogues on Twin Emperors, and this was only using Bloodthirst and the occational Heroic strike.
atm Im considering smacking a Crol shoruck or a Blessed pugio offhand.
1.60 speed while delivering 2.40 speed AP added is just godly.
I dont want to imagine how much dps I could push out if I didnt hold back.
And no, Our rogues doesnt suck.
Edited, Sat May 13 08:31:59 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
hunter item .
评论来自
Allakhazam
yay for more epic fist weapons =)
looks like a massive wrist mounted spike.
Edited, Sun Jan 29 00:16:13 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
can some1 put up a pic?
评论来自
Allakhazam
this reminds me of The Maxx's claws ^-^
评论来自
Allakhazam
my fury warrior NEEDS it...
lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
Along with the offhand from Hakkar this is great for PvE Hunters, it's also good for a warrir... Can't wait until I get one for my hunter :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
im not a sane rogue =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can I get a pic of this? please on a warrior will be awesome thanks
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2484/screenshot1004te.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
looks neat. the best MH ingame for MM hunters afaik (1.9). no warriors wanted it O_o
Pic here:
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9987/silithidclaw14uv.jpg
Edited, Tue Mar 14 01:50:19 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
fury warrior itemization ftw
评论来自
Allakhazam
just got this.
fury warrior, on magtheridon.
swapped out my deathbringer for this thing. in all honesty i dunno which i like better. slow, big hits are nice, but this thing has awesome stats, and generates a lot of rage.
imo its a matter of personal preference.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i thought the base damage doesnt matter anymore since the patch, SS would hit for more with this than a lower dps weapon with a higher base damage
评论来自
Allakhazam
Im a Hunter, and I got this one along with Scythe of the Unseen Path and i quite like it ..
评论来自
Warrax
Best for Hunters and Fury tanks, for Warriors it's especially great for Execute phase and Heroic Strike spam.
This is bad for Rogues, a slower weapon with less dps will do more dps.
Can't say about Shamans and Druids but I think Druids have their own Mace with Druid only AP on it at this point which is far superior.
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