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182
Drops from C'Thun.
评论来自
6828
Best off hand currently in the game. +3 daggers isn't going to help much in patch 2.0 but the stats are incredible.
评论来自
6995
This is the 2nd best dagger in the game in my opinion. Kingsfall from Kel'Thuzad is better ( more top dmg ) but this is by far amazing lol. Worth getting for sure for a rogue.
评论来自
6745
After the 2.0 patch it will not be the best off-hander in the game with Kingsfall in mainhand, the nerf on +weapon skills will mean you might as well use Harbinger of Doom in your offhand... Which is pretty sad considering how hard Death's sting is to get if you ask me...
- Weapon Skill now does the following:
- Weapon skill will no longer reduce the percentage damage lost due to
glancing.
- The player will gain 0.1% to their critical strike rating per weapon skill
against monsters above their level."
评论来自
kaztal
Indeed, DS is now pretty useless. King's Fall + Harbinger of Doom/Maexxna's Fang = best dagger combo in the game right now - MF for mutilate and HoD for combat daggar.
On the plus side, vendors offer 20 gold for this beauty. Wewt.
评论来自
7736
Rogue Dagger
评论来自
7863
I use Death's Sting and Maexxna's Fang, this combination is perfect for a combat dagger spec. The damage on each of the weapons are the highest in the game so far for daggers, except for Kingsfall. Kingsfall and Death's Sting would be the best combination if you had those :)
评论来自
Deja
Sadly with no compensation for weapon skill changes this is no longer such an incredible pve, about on par with maexxna's fang now.
评论来自
8337
The max damage on this dagger would allow for some seriously high ambush critical strikes.
评论来自
Sebas
this is easily one of the best daggers in the game...amazing dps and damage range mixed in with great stats (including +dagger skill) make it a DPS wet dream...Kingsfall has it beat, however.
评论来自
9574
This is the runner-up to the best Dagger in the game, Kingsfall.
But until you get it, this is the best MH you can get.
评论来自
639
0.1% per weapon skill gain on crit rating means that with the +7 weapon expertise from Death's Sting you get:
0.7% of 36.5% crit (my own crit rate assuming PVE combat spec) = 0.7% of 511 crit rating = 36.7555%.
This translates to a crit increase of about 0.25%, but only on mobs above your own level!
Previously you gained 0.04% per skill against all levels. +7 to dagger gave 0.28% crit against all levels. Currently, it is not known if the +skill rating still gives you 0.04% crit against all levels, but if it doesn't, the +dagger skill on this weapon, even though it has increased, is even worse than before.
评论来自
52013
Best dagger in game before TBC!
评论来自
103005
Perhaps a Biblical reference to 1 Corinthians 15:55- "Oh death, where is thy sting? Oh grave, where is thy victory?" Why, it's right here in my bank.
评论来自
171127
Interesting thing to note is that this dagger used to have 66.6 dps. This was changed in a patch to 66.4
Just a little fun fact. I don't remember which patch it was though, I think it was the one after AQ
评论来自
agentex50
got this thing on my first C kill. strangely enough, it has more dps then zin'rokh. seeing that it is fast and a one hander, this is ideal for any class that can dual wield daggers, including 'huntards'.
评论来自
Hotice2104
First let me start off by stating this is primarily for twinks but as well as those who are staying 60 capped.
That said if your intent is for PVP purposes (read: AV destruction) Expertise is not an ideal stat in almost any manner. However, the weapon make up here vs
the dirk
is still superior.
This is especially true for those considering a mutilate (aka assassination) spec.
Poisons scale with attack power, ergo more attack power = bigger poisons
Faster weapon speed means faster swing for more chances to begin stacking your deadly poison on target.
You do not have
envenom
at this level so likely you will be using eviscerate which (as stated in the post above) is independent of weapon damage. This means your weapon speed/topend will not affect it in any sense.
While yes you lose the 1% crit this can be made up elsewhere and through enchants. Any Rogue who does plan to twink or seriously raid at 60 (if they are willing to let themselves use non-Classic enchants) should in fact be using
accuracy
as you enchant. x2 of these is more than 3 1/2% crit and a flat 5% hit. This is more value than beserking (least in my opinion) since there is no proc to worry about or go off at not the ideal time wasting it and putting it back on internal CD.
Best possible top end, if only marginally, with a faster attack speed make this dagger the best possible choice for a mut rogue at 60.
Sub spec'd rogues I would tend to still go with this but it is more leveled between this, the dirk, and
Pugio.
Depends a bit on what you really think you need. Less top end but solid over all stats on the pugio, kinda the compromise is the dirk, and this for most AP and top end with faster strikes but lacking in hit/crit department is this little sting. Each and all are viable and have their uses. All should be seriously considered depending on the makeup of you gear and enchants.
Edit: some spelling and grammar mistakes
评论来自
Thottbot
omg just think about it for a few secs, no guild will give the best maindagger ingame (yeah i know kingsfall... but hasn't drop yet so it doesn't count for me) to a hunter... this HUNTER ITEM spam on every epic item from cloth to plate with strght or spelldmg or whatever isn't funny anymore....
评论来自
Thottbot
This sweet dagger drops from C' thun good luck getting it hes hard if you havent got the tactics :()
评论来自
Thottbot
I haven't yet seen this "legendary" Kingsfall dagger and would like to know if anyone here as at least the DPS or the stats of the weapon and the speed and whatnot. I'd also really appreciate a pic too :)
评论来自
Thottbot
some1 already posted the link before:
http://whataboutpp.com/items/kingsfall.php
评论来自
Thottbot
Look at the background on them, look like somewhere you've been? Hmm, no ;) It's WoW Model Viewer, let's you put on any item you like, amongst other things.
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/stream.php?id=21260
for those who haven't seen it, btw ;)
评论来自
Thottbot
Along with kingsfall the highest DPS dagger in the game, this is the best dagger.
评论来自
Thottbot
ughh..... c'thun has been killed co untless times by over 100 guilds, guild on my server FARMS c'thun, and dnother on Hyjal
评论来自
Thottbot
http://www.worldofraids.com/v2/?page=viewitem&idd;=36
Super cool DPS!
check it out!
评论来自
Thottbot
Uuuuhhh....rogues win of course. Also thats awesome dagger.
评论来自
Thottbot
such a melee mage wpn. i know iT! rogues get Mageblade in MC gg
评论来自
Thottbot
ZOMG HUN......* smack *
Rogue loots FTW!
( True story, my Hunter guildie rolled on this when I clearly had top priority on it, being the TA Rogue, so I hung out with him afterwards and smacked him for ALMOST winning the roll )
评论来自
Allakhazam
They also made it unique...
Lame :(
评论来自
Allakhazam
well if you are a warlock that ain't specced curses
you can see that corrupt deals 666 dmgs over 18 secs
6+6+6=18 omg the beast's mark ! so what?
just some fun blizz puts in...
I just can't believe people refers wow to religious stuff... o_O
评论来自
Allakhazam
Isn't the number 666 the number value of some roman solider/whatever name, who was known to be a mighty killer of Jews? Rather than relating to satan or whatother crap.
Edited, Thu Apr 27 20:10:04 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
haha nerfed it to 66.4 omfg.noobs in blizz.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Looks like a fork O.o
评论来自
Allakhazam
This dagger is incredible, and obviously a Dagger specced Rogue's ideal mainhand for the time being. However as a Fury Warrior I would love to have this, but of course I have no intention on taking it over a Rogue, Edge of Chaos can tide me over till all the Rogues are properly outfitted :).
P.S.-Nico is nub.
P.P.S.-But we still go back and forth....forever.
评论来自
Allakhazam
im tired of hearing its a rogue/warrior/hunter weapon....yout obviously not gonna see this weapon if thats how you feel...its all about DKP...you should know that already...if you get outbidded by a warrior thats your prob...and hunter who would waste the amount of dkp needed for this item is simply a moron
评论来自
Allakhazam
this dagger is to nice to be holded ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
priest weapon
评论来自
Allakhazam
why on earth did they change the dps to 66.4? Before the "nerf", the name Death's Sting actually made sense since it had the dps 66.6..
-.-
评论来自
Allakhazam
OMG! this is totally the best dagger in the game right now! and this is NOT a &*!@ing hunter/warrior/druid/any else class with daggerusing weapon!^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dude, that gnome video is insane, but there must be somthin to it, mean he must have buffed up and stuff, cause 3000+crits are insane, theres somethin more to it, but this dagger looks sweet, hope i can get it soon :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
actually its a hebrew numerical reference to the old "caesar" Nero.
Thought of by judas who wrote the "revelation" or better known as the apocalypse by most people.
Here 666 refers to "the beast", however most christians interpreted the beast as the "antichrist" and therefor its since linked to satan.
I'm not a christen btw :), and i dont know why they have to get so anxious by it
评论来自
Allakhazam
Insane rogue who has 5/5 tier 2.5 and this, i will avoid this guy at all cost in the BG heres a video of him.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=648262298032191824&q=burn
It really sucks cause this guy is on the same server as me but on the other faction = \
Edited, Tue Jun 20 04:13:19 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is Kingsfall out yet? I'm gessing its gonna be a drop from Naxx, specs:
http://ctprofiles.net/items.ct?i=22802
... some people on Thott are talkin about it too.
评论来自
Allakhazam
The epic dagger kingsfall come from naxxramas,from the headboss called Kel'thuzad the lich king. and yes,it's out now^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
morthin lol dont make such a big deal out of what he said lol!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it yesterday. Here's a pic of it:
Death's Sting
评论来自
Allakhazam
The rogues won't be happy when i bid them up on this for fury >_>
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol noobs... dagger are for rogues.. thats the way it is!
评论来自
Allakhazam
About this vs rank 14 dagger, perhaps you failed to notice that death's sting actually has a BETTER damagerange than the rank 14 dagger, and thus allows for higher damage on backstab and ambush. The fact that it's faster also doesn't change much, as they would both be calculated as if they were 1.70 weapons on these instant attacks, and while it would get less damage per hit from attack power, 14 attack power = 1dps regardless of weapon speed. Of course, the extra dps is just gravy, and the + to daggers is great for anyone who does any kind of PvE. 1% crit? Who the hell cares? You're either going for attack power gear to boost your instants, or you have enough agility that 1% crit won't make a difference either way. This dagger is far superior to the rank 14 dagger.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Death's Sting hits out the hardest backstabs/ambushes acording to
http://www.sk-gaming.com/wow/rogue/
(save it rogues, it's gold)
评论来自
Allakhazam
It is actually The Revelation of John and not Judas (Judas was the guy selling Jesus to the Romans to make Jesus use some of his Son-of-God powers to be named Messiah by all Jews - at least the modern bible science says so) :-)
评论来自
Allakhazam
post a pic plz!
评论来自
Allakhazam
After i cooled down my rage about this drop dagger which seems to be the highend one i have to say that through the fact that its faster than Marshals/Warlords one it gets lesser dmg out of ap and thats the fact why the pvp dagger will own this baby in your mainhand.
So because of the fact that this dagger isnt the ultimate in your mainhand would you spent 1% crit for 6-7 dps and some stamina/ap/+3 dagger in your offhand(50% dmg and high chance to miss) ... maybe but not if you get the second pvp dagger so fast and the death one while farming the AQ Bigboss.
After you got both pvp rank 14 daggers this dagger is uninteresting crap to you and this is good ... believe it or not.
;o)
Death's Sting actually has 69 dps becuase of its attack power bonus and pvp dagger has 61.4, so death's sting has 7.6 more and this is better than 1% crit
评论来自
Allakhazam
regardless combat daggers is without a doubt the highest potential dps spec in the game. :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
That
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=648262298032191824&q=burn
rogue i have watched the movie around 5times picking out his items he hides a few tricks literally... and his talents i have almost worked out! if he can do that i wanna attempt it myself! but seriously re%^&*ulus comments OF ANYONE TRYING 2 TAKE THIS OVER A ROGUE watch the vid and u tell me can u really do that dmg? can u beat that rogue? their is only 2 more rogues like him i have herd rmour's of going around (when the BG are linked soon no realm will be save in the BG)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it in combo with pugio atm..it's godlike t.t ! Next stop: Kingsfall !
评论来自
Allakhazam
just got this baby yesterday.. and i asure you im gonna try poke some horde @ neptulon. Im a happy dorf.. thats for sure..
评论来自
Allakhazam
I will bet you that the fact that the DPS was 66.6 was taken the wrong way by some people, and Blizz was forced to change it to cover their asses. I'm fairly certain this is the same reason that spells like "Holy Smite" and "Holy Word: Shield" became "Smite" and "Power Word: Shield" from long, long ago. Isn't it lovely, the world we live in?
评论来自
Allakhazam
After i cooled down my rage about this drop dagger which seems to be the highend one i have to say that through the fact that its faster than Marshals/Warlords one it gets lesser dmg out of ap and thats the fact why the pvp dagger will own this baby in your mainhand.
So because of the fact that this dagger isnt the ultimate in your mainhand would you spent 1% crit for 6-7 dps and some stamina/ap/+3 dagger in your offhand(50% dmg and high chance to miss) ... maybe but not if you get the second pvp dagger so fast and the death one while farming the AQ Bigboss.
After you got both pvp rank 14 daggers this dagger is uninteresting crap to you and this is good ... believe it or not.
;o)
/slap
/doom
/SATAAAN
评论来自
Allakhazam
Without a doubt the best dagger in the game so far, without a doubt. but not for long tho... check it out this badboy (
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1740/kingsfall1vh.jpg
)<- you might have to paste the url manually in order to make the link work, yeye, imgshack sux
it will be added in 1.11 as a drop / reward from naxx
http://mediaviewer.ign.com/ignMediaPage.jsp?media_id=3590545&article_id=707112&channel_id=261&page_title=WoW+Screenies+Including+Tier+3&adtag=network%3Dign%26size%3D468x60%26channel%3Dve3d%26site%3Dve3d_hub%26channel%3Dnews%26type%3Dpartner
<- pic of the design, also featuring the tier 3 rogue set and death's sting in offhand
Edited, Mon May 15 04:14:13 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Death's Sting was nerfed to 66.4 DPS because people who are a little too religious for their own good would complain that 66.6 DPS was a reference to Satan.
/golfclap
Edited, Thu Apr 27 16:22:23 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
After i cooled down my rage about this drop dagger which seems to be the highend one i have to say that through the fact that its faster than Marshals/Warlords one it gets lesser dmg out of ap and thats the fact why the pvp dagger will own this baby in your mainhand.
So because of the fact that this dagger isnt the ultimate in your mainhand would you spent 1% crit for 6-7 dps and some stamina/ap/+3 dagger in your offhand(50% dmg and high chance to miss) ... maybe but not if you get the second pvp dagger so fast and the death one while farming the AQ Bigboss.
After you got both pvp rank 14 daggers this dagger is uninteresting crap to you and this is good ... believe it or not.
;o)
评论来自
Allakhazam
zomg im going to solo aq40 and cthun right now man.
ima do some 99999 crits n stuff ya know
评论来自
Allakhazam
Fury warrior weapon ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Oh Boy...
/reroll PvE
(60 druid who don't wants to get backraped by filty UD rogues ^^ )
评论来自
Allakhazam
that is one sexy looking dagger
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hunter weapon!
评论来自
Allakhazam
insane dagger :P I hope to join the only guild on our server that does C'thun :)
btw what music is playing during the first minutes of the Video? i liked it:P
http://video.google.com/videoplay?
...&q=burn
评论来自
Allakhazam
blizzard still kept that 666.
The drop chance is 6.66% ^^
(yes, it may vary here, but uploads aren't that accurate)
评论来自
Allakhazam
where's the pic?
评论来自
Allakhazam
This looks exactly like those Transformer Robot toys I played with as a kid.
Even though Combat spec with swords is superior in pve compared to daggers, I would take this if I ever saw it dropping and if I ever had the points.
I'm crying my eyes out for the fact that there aren't any similar swords out there (*sigh*).
评论来自
Allakhazam
ive seen this one
评论来自
Allakhazam
Itemlvl 84? WTF? should be 88 as the other drops from cthun (they are all 88)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Okey, so here it is, Death's Sting!
even better than grand marshal dagger, so dont get to GM, kill c'thun wtf :O
评论来自
Allakhazam
awesome offhand for a fury warrior~
评论来自
Allakhazam
It is obviously hunter weapon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
The original Death's Sting was:
Death's Sting
Binds when picked up
Dagger
One-Hand
Speed 1.90
101-152 Damage
(66.6 Damage per Second)
+10 Stamina
Durability 75
Requires Level 60
Passive: +38 Attack Power.
Passive: Increased Daggers +3.
Now they've put it on par with the rank 14 daggers as far as damage ratio is concerned. That is lame.
Also first.
评论来自
Allakhazam
腐蚀术
评论来自
Allakhazam
Roflmao it's a klingon weapon !
评论来自
Allakhazam
my ambush is already over 2k with perd's blade.....LAWL imagine my damage with this or better yet that dagger from naxx
评论来自
Allakhazam
Nerfed or not, this baby is hot!
Though, I totally agree about how silly the nerf is. "Omg it's liek teh numbar of teh beast!1 LOL i r gonna pwn a lawsuit on blizaRd cuz im a Christian lol even though its 66 POINT 6 dps, and not 666 lol!1"
Muslims are crying over some cartoons, and Blizzard is scared by the thought of a lawsuit from Christian people (if that's true).
/golfclap
Edited, Thu Apr 27 15:40:31 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
he's good, but not that good he has that movie running about 5x faster then it should be, and with the way he is throwin up hits he is really slow.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Best dagger ingame but this is the &*!@ prob .. every stupid rogue will get this after his guild was able to handle cthun.(farming time ... 27%)
Blizz, this sucks.
评论来自
cerenetta
As a rogue, just /gquit if your guild somehow let a warrior get this weapon b4 any rogue.
评论来自
Cridi
the truly wet dream of every rogue.. glad, i have it with my warrior :D
评论来自
Pzyho
Day 17289
Still hasn't fking dropped
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