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评论来自
knofle
It is very powerful indeed. This will not eliminate glancing blows, but it will remove the effect of most glancing blows, due to the +8 Two-Handed Sword.
It may not be as good as many other swords in PvP, but it still does a fair amount of damage there as well.
评论来自
Tsarnkoth
It's on the same tier as Zin'Rokh, but whereas Zin will probably do more damage in PvP, this sword drops from more bosses and will be much more effective for raid DPS.
As a warrior, I'd be tempted to pass for Paladins first and go for a Rag weapon, but this is very nice.
评论来自
7266
I would think the Zin'Rokh is better than this sword. The Zin'Rokh has attack power rather than strength. Strength = Attack power. Just my opinnion, but I rather have a sword with attack power already built onto the blade.
评论来自
7340
This would still be the better choice for raid dps with a 2h fury tree. But with the new patch incoming, i think that is a dead way of dpsing
评论来自
144835
19 Expertise Rating at Lv 60 = 1.9% reduced chance to dodge/parry you attacks (1,2% at Lv 70)
评论来自
MetalGenocide
This is the only sword in the game with this model. Shame cause I think it looks pretty cool
评论来自
Crazy1337
This was the most common Warrior weapon in pre-tbc
评论来自
GnomeWarrior93
They should make a Lvl 80 Rare Quality Sword that looks like this.
Would be Cool!
评论来自
27749
Fits nicely DK's T7.5.
评论来自
309284
IIRC Pat used this in his first video to destroy everyone (pre-TBC).
I could've sworn it looked different though.
评论来自
Colos
looks just like Zangetsu from Bleach xD
评论来自
242643
Looks like Ichigo's soul slayer from Bleach lol. Very nice for retri/arms, the strength gives 84 AP. Expertise very useful, overall a decent wep for 60 :P
评论来自
389166
every time I see this sword I remember Zangetsu the sword of Ichigo Kurosaki from the popular manga/anime Bleach
Zangetsu
评论来自
367902
As part of the revamp of Onyxia's Lair in patch 3.2.2, this weapon will be part of her loot tables as
Keen Obsidian Blade
.
Edit: added link
评论来自
raidpwn3170
lol im gonna try to get this sword later on ......maybe duel spec this with armageddon...should i?i need some advice like howmany people should i take with me?i once went to MC with my friend eranco but we took the mobs only no bosses(no healers) lol
评论来自
Thottbot
i dont see why people always talk about warriors as if all they can do is tank.... some warriors dont give a ^&*! about being a tank and just want to kick your ass.. and this sword ownz for that.. is if i get the chance you better bet ill be rolling on it and then be usen it to woop your ass..
评论来自
Thottbot
I see so many useless discussions, wich only appear out of greed.
A warrior gets the most out of this sword.
Shield / one hander? you think they always run around with that? think again.
Pala's can use it too, and if seal of command procs with this one, they will get some nasty crits out of it.
Hunters... Well, yes, you can use it... For your raptor strike (whoohoo), most of your other moves such as wingclip and mongoose bite don't even do weapon damage... You really gonna use this slow weapon, sacrificing two small fast weapons with HUNTER stats for this one? I bet it's just because it's purple. If it were green no one would even care. Oh yeah, btw, I am a hunter. Most comments on thott are based on greed I've noticed. pretty sad.
评论来自
Thottbot
Dropped from Geddon for me and I spend 41 dkp's and got it (all I had at that point), an other warrior passed for me. I reskilled 20/31 to fury - and I'm damn happy. This babe makes it possible to make crits of 4550 - my best result yet. Had the reaper before and still use it to compare - the reaper's still a damn good weapon, but such crits I've never had with it (with my gear so far). I've also tried a while the swordspecc in the weaponstree, but it was not as good as the furorskilling I now have.
You'll loose some chance to crit if you change from axespecc to swordspecc an to the furortree, but as far as I can tell it's absolutely worth the change in my opinion :)
评论来自
Thottbot
Realy nice sword, thought i have a question. What is the best enchant on this blade? Crusader of +15 strength?
I used TUF before this, and its way better than that.
Il respec to sword later today.
Btw one more thing.
What you on this forum thinks, is this better than ZG Destroyer of the Worlds sword?
评论来自
Thottbot
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9256/oeb0uw.jpg
评论来自
Thottbot
My guild got this drop friday off of Garr. MT and OT could bid on it and did not want it. ( MT got binding of the windseeker, part of the legdendary sword, the week before and OT got lots of might gear that run) Guild Leader and the Officers decided to let classes that where plate have it. Only two wanted it. Me ( a 60 critadin/healadin paladin) and a 60 warrior (fury spec'ed).
My guild does an interesting way of giving out items. Each item is worth a said amount of DKP and the person with the most DKP(if they are allowed to roll on it) can choose to take it or pass. I was third for paladins and the two above had earthshaker, aurastone, or a nice healadin sheild. No warriors but one wanted it. I figured it would be better for the Warrior so i let him have it. On Saturday he was in top 5 for DPS for MC, even though he had to leave early (he respecced to arms).
Point of the story is if you are allowed to roll on it, you can, but think is it better for your guild to have it on a paladin, who will be a cleanse-bot/healadin, a hunter who will only melee on lava annhilators, or a arms spec'ed warrior who can hit over 3K with this. This is all from the PvE aspect from the game.
IF you want a PvP weapon you are looking in the wrong place, get to grand marshal/ high warlord and get those weapons.
评论来自
Thottbot
Got this from Garr, although the damage is a bit overrated, i wouldve expected to be hitting constant 400's yet i only get 300's. Oh well im pretty happy with it, it owns in BG, i can 2 hit a mage. And i got it for really cheap RP =)
评论来自
Thottbot
TUF is comparable for PvP, but the +8 2h swords makes it very good for PvP.
And no, an arcanite reaper isn't ever as good.
评论来自
Thottbot
Also, the reason why you crit easier on low lvl mobs is that 1 defense skill is also 0.04% lesser crit chance of your opponent (as well as some other things too, more dodge etc).
And low lvl mobs have low defense skill. (5 times their lvl)
评论来自
Thottbot
Did anyone know that 42str is 84AP, and 84 AP is 6 (!) dps. Smack a +15 str ench on this weapon and u got 114+ap from this weapon. Thats even 8.14 dps extra, with that sword u will get 73dps.
Thats a nice thing;)
Plus, lets not forget that its +8 swordskill, that will increase ure chance to hit and give u 0.32% chance to crit=)
评论来自
Thottbot
Zomg, i got this sword and its aussome poussom.I knock out gnomes one hit KO plx. Go HORDE! Ow by the way i love tomater soup. Come on try to kill me mother hunchers!111oneone!11!1
评论来自
Thottbot
Bonereaver's Edge > Spinal Reaper > Zin'rokh, OEB (about the same) >>>>>>>>>>> TUF > Earthshaker, etc etc.
This is the pre-BWL order of the weps, Bonereaver's being the best. This order is for any warrior build (but if your fury i reccomend dual wielding).
评论来自
Thottbot
Personally I think OEB seems a lot better in PvE thanks to the skill in swords which should reduce the glancing blows. Sure your Mortal Strikes won't hit as hard, but that's more important in PvE.
It depends on how much +hit you have, and if you have other items for sword skill or is human though.
The rest I agree with though ;)
评论来自
Thottbot
To look at the outstanding characteristics of the three weapons:
OEB:
Highest dps of the three.
Most Attackpower of the three (for warriors).
+8 swordskill.
Can use with sword spec.
TUF:
2% chance to crit.
1 second stun proc.
Zin'Rokh:
Highest Max Damage of the three, with significantly higher minimum damage as well.
Highest stamina of the three.
Can use with sword spec.
In my opinion, OEB and Zin'Rokh are pretty damn evenly matched, and TUF is lacking a bit to be called an equal to these weapons.
I think a lot of the people who claim that the TUF is better are simply proud of their hard-earned epic, and are sticking up for it. Although, as far as difficulty of aquirement goes, the TUF is arguably the easiest of the three weapons to get, and Zin'Rokh is probably the hardest, dropping at 5% rate from Hakkar. OEB drops from several MC bosses, so it seems it would be slightly easier to acquire than Zin'Rokh.
评论来自
Thottbot
just incase nobody noticed or nobody plays any of the 3 soul calibur games, the sword actually looks alot like soul edge, a weapon used by a guy in the soul calibur series named Nightmare
评论来自
Thottbot
Zin Rohk is the best. If you're a human, OEB is actually better. Oeb is muuuuch better than TuF. If you're not a warrior, it doesn't really matter though. OEB would probably be the best for a paladin. Note, I have zin rohk, used the others.
评论来自
Thottbot
ok people need to stop arguing about weapons for hunters and warriors
tow-handed swords like this are for warriors, STRENGTH
hunters use axes and stuff
评论来自
Thottbot
this wep kicks arse
评论来自
Allakhazam
This dropped just a few mins ago.
Warrior won the item, IMO, best sword in the game.
(Warlock here, don't know much about swords, but looks like beyond Arcanite Reaper, which is pretty godly)
I'll post a pic once I convert the images to JPG.
评论来自
Allakhazam
So you're vendoring this sword instead of disenchanting it, eh?
Out of curosity, are you even flagged for MC?
Oh you need to be flagged to enter Molten Core? I had no idea.
Check out our Ragnaros and/or Domo movie on Curse-Gaming.
http://www.curse-gaming.com/movie.php
Now tell me again I'm not flagged for MC?
PS: You suck at trolling. Get a life.
Edited, Sun May 22 01:36:59 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
WHUP WHUP WHUP WHUP WHUP A$$
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=onsidianedgedbade3of.jpg
It should be more visable on this pic. then on the other very dark one.
Edited, Sun Jan 8 09:20:36 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hmm, this or
其拉屠戮者
...
评论来自
Allakhazam
You know, from the pic shown, you'd expect to get the tip lodged into your back if you swung it wrong...
I like both pics of it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
60 Pally - Leahcim on Sargeras
Trying it out in some PvP tonight. Wondering if it can replace my Crystal Spiked Maul's 2% to crit?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Which would be better for a 2h dps warrior? This or Zin'rokh?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Oh you need to be flagged to enter Molten Core? I had no idea.
Check out our Ragnaros and/or Domo movie on Curse-Gaming.
http://www.curse-gaming.com/movie.php
Now tell me again I'm not flagged for MC?
PS: You suck at trolling. Get a life.
Sure. I see a movie of a guild killing Ragnaros and Domo. Nowhere do I see the words "Malzan was here" in the entire production. All I see here is some fool claiming that his guild is vendoring epic drops as opposed to disenchating them.
PS: You suck at troll flaming. Get a job.
评论来自
Allakhazam
hand of justice from agnerforge in BRD add's a chance to gain an extra hit...
and seriously.... trust me when I say that sword spec is worth it
maybe in a 20 second pvp fight you won't notice it... but in multi-hour raids it is MORE than noticable... i outdamage every other warrior in the raid with this thing (and even some rogues!)
评论来自
Allakhazam
in 1.9 OEB redesigned. can any1 upload screenshot of new design?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Woot!
After the release of WoW in Europe, that very day, I got the game,.. I made a mage, hit 60, gnome,.. then re-rolled made a tauren warrior, hit 60, became the main tank to a guild, tanked Onyxia and up to Majordomo for months, then got bored of the lack of progress, re-rolled to a gnome warrior, and this time refused to go protection spec
I now have this (and the option for TuF, but I prefer this and Sword Spec) - And I'm one happy little gnome =D
Didn't drop from Magmadar, and all I wanted was a Quick Strike Ring or This, (Onslaught from Raggy one day) - so I wasn't being hopeful, and low and behold, it dropped from Geddon =D I was expecting only caster loot,..
I got it for 15 DKP too (minimum) - All warriors were either Fury, Already had it, or Couldn't bid due to being MT/OT
Well happy
Edited, Sun Mar 19 18:49:40 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm still trying to get this baby. Seeing countless other items drop, with a lower drop rate this - really sucks. Oh well, one can always hope I guess :]
评论来自
Allakhazam
Words can not even begin to explain how much I want this weapon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/Iceygamer/Obsidenonback.jpg
new art work
评论来自
Allakhazam
Had this toy for a while now. It's nice. I'm a paladin.
Next upgrade for me is either Sulfuras (which would be our guild's first) or Herald of Woe. Hoping for sulfuras just to make you forumtrolling warriors mad kekek
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well, I was supposed to get my Obsidian Edged Blade in MC tonight, but no! What is happening? It is given to a... TANK! Oh, instead of giving it to a decent damage warrior with phat gear, give it to a tank. Smart one! not! What do you people say?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just think about what this bad-boy could do with a +15 str enchant or +25 agi? You've got 308 sword skill (if you've got your swords that high), which highers your chance to hit a dang rogue with a high dodge rate. Plus with +15 str you've got +57 str which = 114 att pwr. OR you could slap +25 agi on it and go with the original +84 att pwr... but you've got a higher chance to dodge someone elses attacks (thus you won't need the extra stam), AND a higher chance to crit with the agi. In AV, it's swings swings swings and stam really dosen't help if you've got 3 mages blasting you to hell. So you wanna hit fast, do quite a bit of dmg with those hits, and not miss... the speed on this is fast, the str is high, so you will hit harder, and you will miss less with the +swords... the 28 stam on the Zin only ups your HP by 280... so I would say grab the OEB, it looks great, like a huge heavy piece of metal that has been used a lot, and can just rip someone in half (yeah, I'm into the seasoned warrior look) the stats are great for someone who wants to get some good wacks off on a hunter who has their back turned to them, or a rogue who is not having a good time trying to stealth. This sword has a lot of potential for a great DPS-based performance with +15 str and +25 agi on it... sure stam is good... but for me... I would grab the OEB and have fun wacking the hell out of the unfortunate clothies, leather and mail wearers that come in my way while I've got Blessing of might, Battle shout, and all my dps gear on MUAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
Hope this helps in your choice *evil grin*
评论来自
Allakhazam
A bit worse then the DoW, but still an good sword to use to grind the honor to get a 14 weapon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
So U saying we cant use it (we being Hunters)
hehehe
its a piece of crap :)
MAn it looks sick though
Edited, Wed Apr 27 16:13:33 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Two of these bad boys dropped the other night all in the same MC. I didnt win either of them b/c all my points usually go to Might. A warrior won the first one,which wasnt a problem, but a Paladin won the next one making me angry.
OEB is not a paladin weapon. If you want to do damage roll a warrior and stop taking damage weapons from classes that specialize in damage!
评论来自
Allakhazam
is this better or worse than the unstoppable force, for a warrior
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have had this for a while now and going PVP with it ITS GREAT!
Ps. Im a Arms/Fury Warrior
评论来自
Allakhazam
This sword is god next to the PvP rewards. Anyway sword skill does add to crit.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Obsidian Edged Blade
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Two-Hand Sword
176 - 264 Damage Speed 3.40
(64.7 damage per second)
+42 Strength
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increased Two-handed Swords +8.
-------------
Manslayer of the Qiraji
Binds when picked up
Two-Hand Two-Hand Sword
180 - 270 Damage Speed 3.60
(62.5 damage per second)
+35 Strength
+20 Stamina
+15 Agility
Requires Level 60
-----------------
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds
Binds when picked up
Unique
Two-Hand Two-Hand Sword
196 - 295 Damage Speed 3.80
(64.6 damage per second)
+28 Stamina
Requires Level 60
Equip: +72 Attack Power.
------------
Let's look at the AP from them all first.
Obsidian Edged Blade has 42 strength. 1 str = 2 AP. 14 AP = 1 DPS. 42*2=84/14=6 DPS, 84 AP.
Manslayer has 35 strength. 35*2=70/14=5 DPS, 70 AP.
Zin'Rokh has a plain 72 AP, no strength. 72/14=5,14 DPS.
DPS from them all:
OEB: 64.7+6=70.6 DPS
Manslayer: 62.5+5=67.5 DPS
Zin'Rokh: 64.6+5.14=69.74 DPS
PvP:
Zin'Rokh has the highest amount of stamina, and the highest max damage, making it the best for MS PvP, in my opinion.
Manslayer has .75% to crit, but its DPS is slightly lower than the others'. It has the second highest max damage of these three. It has 20 more stamina than OEB, making it second-best for MS PvP, in my opinion.
OEB has no stamina, no +crit, only superior DPS and weapon skill (which doesn't really do much in PvP). It also has the lowest max damage. I would consider this third in the line for PvP.
PvE:
MS Spec is in no way bad for PvE damage. Fury is better, yes, but it is worse if you don't have lots of +hit gear, as you need at least 10% +hit to be a decent fury warrior, where you only need +5 as MS. This was just a sidenote, let's continue the analysis.
Zin'Rokh has the highest max damage, it has the second highest DPS. It has no +crit. It is good for PvE, but not as good as either of the others. I would say this is number 3 for PvE.
Manslayer has +.75% to crit, it has slightly lower DPS and max damage than Zin'Rokh, but it is good, and I would plut it in second place for PvE.
OEB has the highest DPS, it is the fastest, thus has the least max damage, but it is designed for beating up high-level mobs with. The +8 to swords gives you some % chance to not get a glancing strike, and 0.3% or so to hit. I would say this is number 1 for PvE of these three.
This is just my personal opinion, not an international standard.
评论来自
Allakhazam
gnome weapon imo
评论来自
Allakhazam
This weapon isn't going to be as good now because of the 2.0.1 weapon skill nerf... :(
评论来自
Allakhazam
To clarify about Weapon Skill, the game doesn't tell you the full details of what it improves when raised; just like with Defense Skill doesn't explain all of what it does.
Weapon Skill increases:
1. Critical Strike rate, also factors in Agility.
2. Minimum and Maximum damage that can be dealt.
3. Chance to land a hit. Only one the game tells you.
For a Human Warrior or Paladin, you can get about +20 to Sword Skill by combining racial trait, edgemaster gauntlet, and this Sword; +15 for other races. There could be other equipment as well that increases Sword Skill, but I haven't seen them yet.
评论来自
Allakhazam
one dropped off garr, then another off baron, w/in 30 minutes of each other haha. gg.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok based with 1000ap the applicable spec e.g axe/sword/mace/polearm spec this is the dps comparison.
Obsidian Edged Blade: 179.08 dps
Arcanite Reaper: 162.07 dps
The Unstoppable Force: 164.67 dps
Obsidian edged is 12th weapon in the game for straight dps only behind Ragnaros dropped weapons and rank 14 weapons.
Also i'd like to include that the OEB does lose out in the damage per hit(dps*attk speed) to TUF but because of sword spec and it faster speed owns TUF hands down in a timed atmosphere.
Same AP now this is MS damage based on rank 4 MS and 5 MS per minute.
Obsidian Edged Blade: 245.82 dps
Arcanite Reaper: 230.06 dps
The Unstoppable Force: 233.08 dps
Yet again obsidian is 12th best in the whole game after rank 14 weaps and Rag drops.
Hope this clears things up. This INCLUDES the extra axe spec crit and the extra attacks from sword spec.
Overall it appears the best weapon in the game too have dps wise is the rank 14 2h sword.
I used AR and TUF as a comparison because their weapons most people in the game know. This doesn't include the new Zul'Gurub weapons so its possible the placing is skewed but the results are viable.
If you want it comparing to anything else just post here and ill do it for you
Edited, Sat Sep 17 06:27:02 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
just got that from mag last night... =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
can someone please post the new version of this i dont know how to acess my pics but ive seen it and it looks teh @#$% also can this be a pallie sword?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I was just wondering ... I got this superbe blade with my dwarf-paladin and got enchantment +7 damage on it. Would it make sense to put instead a +22 int ?
Edited, Wed Mar 8 05:43:52 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
It doesn't matter who gets this... Arms warriors and Paladins. Straight up.
Why would a tank get this? Sounds like a waste of DKP to me.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This sword dropped the 4-th time tonight.....a pally got it .... dunno why ...but oh well ...i am a warrior but i don't want to waste dkp ...WAITING FOR BONEREAVER'S EDGE FTW
评论来自
Allakhazam
I hope this drops for me tonight! Been PvPing forever with TuF and I am ready to go sword spec!
评论来自
Allakhazam
This sword beats the Arcarnite Reaper. Plus with humans racial +5 to swords, its basicly an Arcarnite Reaper for us human warriors. Pardon the pun, but i have one word to say....WoW....=P
评论来自
Allakhazam
This sword drops ALL THE TIME. I'm so tired of seeing it. I swear. We've got like 6 or 7 over the last couple MC clears. Just a couple days ago it dropped from Magmadar, Baron Geddon, and Golemagg all in the same damn run. We're seriously getting so tired of seeing them that they are now being sold to the vendor right and left. Fix the damn drop rate on this blade Blizzard, it's dropping way too often
So you're vendoring this sword instead of disenchanting it, eh?
Out of curosity, are you even flagged for MC?
评论来自
Allakhazam
ok if you have 1000ap with reaper you will have 1022with OEB... so dmg is: REAPER 424-527
OEB 424-512 ..... is 15 dmg more worth of 0,4 slow swings ? i think not.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Seems to be a big debate on specs, DPS vs "Burst" Damage. I think all specs have their advantage and disadvantage. Could say right axes 5% to crit so I'll crit more, and yes you'd be right but there's still that x% you're not going to crit. Of course more crit increases the chance and yes you see the difference mostly, at the end of the day you still need to that crit to process. It's exactly the same thing for sword spec, you need that to proc to see the extra damage from a sword, and if it doesn't you'll see nothing special at all.
As for burst Damage vs DPS on a weapon. The bottom line is "the max damage of a weapon is going to be what my maximum damage upon the target will be based on" Sounds like I'm stating the obvious but then again how many people actually understand that half the time. So how about an example. I hit with my MS the max damage of my weapon is upped with my Attack Power and the MS, also lets say I crit too. What happens? I get a high damage hit that's what. Now lets say I have a lower max damage weapon but higher DPS. I do the same my MS is lower, but I'm getting to swing that weapon faster. Now depending on how much faster is what you need to think about. If it's a hell of a lot faster you WILL see the difference in how quickly you take someone or something down. If it's a small difference you probably if anything see a better result with the higher max damage weapon.
So to the point and back on topic. If the OEB has an extra chance to hit with sword spec, has a higher speed than an AR (although not much), and has a higher burst damage....
....wouldn't it make sense that the OEB would be putting out more damage overall than an AR?
I guess the only way you'll find out is if you try it yourself. I have yet to myself. But I'm pretty sure my answer will be "yes, it does do more damage and faster, if only by a fair bit".
评论来自
Allakhazam
This nice kithcen knife with sword specc and hand of justice (
) is damn nice, especcially if they both proc at once :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
um..42 strength equals 84 attack power:)
评论来自
Allakhazam
It all depends on how you see it, let's for example take george bush, he's stupid because he listens to donald rumsfeld who made him go into iraq and butchered a lot of people without much reason as he didn't take enough soldiers in to control the country properly, then let us take alexandre the 'great' he was greedy and butchered his way through asia and killed a lot of people, so different motive same outcome seems none are better than the other
评论来自
Allakhazam
shouldn't be too long before hunters start posting and saying how they should get to roll on this one too... >_<
评论来自
Allakhazam
This sword drops ALL THE TIME. I'm so tired of seeing it. I swear. We've got like 6 or 7 over the last couple MC clears. Just a couple days ago it dropped from Magmadar, Baron Geddon, and Golemagg all in the same damn run. We're seriously getting so tired of seeing them that they are now being sold to the vendor right and left. Fix the damn drop rate on this blade Blizzard, it's dropping way too often.
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol... morons....
The sword build is as good as any other build. @ dienodie: pls go to school and go learn something. It's just bull@#$% that you are talking there. ("Axe spec is better cause you can boost crits through agl and items." <-- ROFL, you still got the crit chance! even with sword build. It's just that you can double your dmg thanks to the 2. hit and still have a crit or two!)
and just look at a reaper vs this one...
Obsidian: 70.7 dps, 264 max dmg, +8 sword skill
vs.
AR: 58.2 dps, 256 max dmg
now tell me, what of those two is better? oO
@Deltoidius: if you really are a warrior and passed on this you are an idiot... sry to tell you this
Edited, Wed Jun 15 16:20:10 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
got myself one of these today from magma :D o i was overthe moon
i was so happy to get rid of TUF which 99.9% of warriors/pallys have :D
and let me tell you.. overall this weapon kicks TUF arse..
ive fallen in love with sword spec, i will never return to axe/polearm :D
alsong as you have Crit gear & sword spec its amazing!
i just have to farm HoJ now :(
评论来自
Allakhazam
Horray for 1.9
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9640/oeballa6xk.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dropped on Malygos - Horde today.
I won the bid for it, and now im a happy little cow :)
Been waiting weeks for it to drop, saving all of my dkp
评论来自
Allakhazam
thank god for the new look. that old pic thats up makes it look like @#$%.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just got mine off Garr in Blood Knights Guild run off Garr. Shear luck I got it. Truly an amazing sword, will be well used.
60 Tauren Warrior
Thunderhorn
评论来自
Allakhazam
Actually I just got it...and I'm a hunter lol! No warriors wanted it and nothing of use had dropped so far, so I bid on it and won it hehe...looks so darn sweet after the remake! and yes, does give very high and nice raptor strikes and very frequent if ya got savage strikes:)
评论来自
Allakhazam
this sword RULZZZZ ! :D very nice stats for warrior ( and pally if the warrior passed on it :P )
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well if a tank has DKP, I dont know why not let him have it. I have a DPS warrior and I dont complain a tank geting it, he had more DKP, he wanted it np. Ofc I was pissed I didnt get it but that's just that I didn't get it, not that a tank got it. Same thing for priests, why not let them get spell dmg gear. How do you expect a holy priest to farm for the repairs and pots?
评论来自
Allakhazam
i love this thing, i got it a couple weeks ago... oo boy... MS(crit with crusader proc) extra attack (thats a crit) extra attack(crit) extra attack (normal)extra attack (crit) and a follow up execute (100 rage)... killed a alliance warrior in under a second... woo boy
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
*cough* warriorweapon *cough*
评论来自
Allakhazam
Umm just a thought but some palys like to do more then Buffalot in a high end raid. we like to solo and pvp too wich is the main reason most of us chose to be palys in the first place. Palys deserve this sword just as much as a warrior
评论来自
Allakhazam
Wich is better? Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of the Worlds, or Obsidian Edged Blade?
评论来自
Allakhazam
To be honest I wouldn't call the Warrior a moron for passing, more a moron if he rolled for it but preferred Axe or Polearm spec because then he's depriving someone else of a weapon.
The thing is, Sword Spec is inferior with MS ever so slightly. The reason why is that although the proc itself is basically a crit, it isn't a real crit so it doesn't proc any other things that rely on crits. For example, Flurry won't proc from it, nor will Deep Wounds or Impale. In fact when you do MS, the Sword proc will basically add an addition NORMAL attack, not another MS. Due to that, you might do, say, 500 damage with MS, and then the proc will only do 350 damage because it's a regular hit. With a crit of course, it actually doubles the damage of whatever you use so that'll give you an extra 150 damage etc.
You could argue the extra hit will raise your chance to crit over the same period of time as without it, but the increase is quite small. Where Sword Spec comes up in use is when your crit is already high (say 25%) because that extra hit then becomes quite likely to crit.
Personally I think Swords are best for Fury specced Warriors and Axes/Polearms for MS. Though I'm an MS Warrior but I wouldn't sniff at this regardless because I've hit that 30% mark (25% with a sword of course). The dps is insane, the added strength is huge and the increase is sword skill will lower your miss rate, something which is debated about with much annoyance among Warriors. If miraculously Spinal Reaper and this dropped at the same time then I would pass on this, but otherwise I'd try to get it if I could...having said that, it doesn't make you a moron if you pass on it.
The only time you'd be a moron is if it ended up getting DE'ed or vendored because of your pass xD.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Belive me this one is better then AR i have used them both and with this weapon im always no.1 in MC and i kill AR warriors easy.. no question about it this this one is better.. anyone that says anything else is just talking BS!
评论来自
Allakhazam
er.....that pic is wrong :p
评论来自
Allakhazam
I want -.-
评论来自
Allakhazam
on a gnome :
http://upload.kosebamse.net/wow/scavenger.jpg
Edited, Tue Nov 29 11:22:21 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Weapon dmg question....
USF is slower and should therefor have more wpn dmg, but there's +42str on OEB, which one has the highest wpn dmg then? There must be a way to calculate that...
评论来自
Allakhazam
got this last run major damage increase instead of hitting #11 on damage meter im up to about 6 would have been higher if i hadnt died on lava packs>.<
评论来自
Allakhazam
My guild roxs, i got this last night (lvl60 Paladin) that bumbs us upto about 10 - 15 people with this weapon now :D and the majority are paladins :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
speed on this sword would make a paladins seal of command steal agro almost anytime it proc'd. i'm a paladin, would rather see a warrior use it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
that simple. It owns
评论来自
Allakhazam
With this sword, human Paladins or Warriors would have 313 sword proficiency! I'm not all sure how to factor that in to damage... or does it just make you hit more accurately? I'm not saying it's not great for other races or classes, but being a human gives you more edge with it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Edited, Fri May 19 20:50:57 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
ever since i got OEB on my pally with a crusader enchant ive bee doing some insane
damage and DPS
Arrathnan 60 paladin Shadow Council
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can someone who has this tell me how much you crit with this bad boy? 42 strength... 64.7 dps... swords +8... man.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Picture of it:
http://pichost.hexxxen.net/uploaded/obsidian_edged_blade.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
This dropped in MC the other day.... 60 pally here and they said Warrior only sword. The pallys were like humm WTF. What do you all think? should this actually Be warrior only?
评论来自
Allakhazam
o man! bring on 1.9 i cant wait that new gfx looks lush! :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://upload.kosebamse.net/OEB.JPG
the new looks
Edited, Thu Jan 5 13:47:40 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
For Arms humain warrior that got +5 on swords, and swords spec, the OEB own, got better DPS, +8 swords that makes you very less to miss, and more DPS and a bit faster than Destroyer of the Worlds, Bonereaver is very nice sword, but with the +str on OEB will get near that DPS for a sword that drops more than Bonereaver.
评论来自
Allakhazam
That picture is incredibly funny. A few days ago the following thread went up on the Kel'thuzad realm forum:
Unfortunately the video from the original post is no longer up, but I can summarize it - it is short clip of Barus, lvl 60 human Warrior of Goon Squad, destroying all his gear. Bye Helm of Valor, bye Belt of Wrath, etc. All while dancing in the lowbie village outside of Stormwind. The first item to go? Yup, Obsidian Edged Blade.
P.S. please don't take the suicide crap in the forum thread seriously. If you're not familiar w/ GS they have roots in somethingawful.com so their humor is not for everyone.
Edited, Fri Apr 29 11:46:39 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm sick of it to.. dropped ALOT for us.. ppl dont want it..
评论来自
Allakhazam
they didn't have swords back in the stone age when Deltoitius was born..he naturally favors axes more.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got 3 of these in one 8-boss run. Nerf melee! ><
评论来自
Allakhazam
it's really impressive....64.7DPS and +42Strength.....but for me, it's unbelievable ugly, too....only the blue-redish color is good :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can someone please Link the new artwork for this Sword. im so happy they are finnaly doing something to it, about damn time!
评论来自
Allakhazam
in 1.9 OEB redesigned.
can any1 upload screen of new design?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Whats better... this or zin'rokh?
评论来自
Allakhazam
been using this for a few weeks now..
i'm 31/5/15 and and can get my crit up to %25 + 6% chance at extra attack.....imagine the dmg output if I was 31/20
this sword owns in pvp and when it procs its lights out.
if i go DPS in MC ..i'm #1 by a longshot, rogues with 50dps 1H and mages aren't even close to me
whoever says this shouldn't go to a warrior is a tard, paladins stay back and heal me while I can sit in zerk and MS+WW+SLAM gg.
评论来自
Allakhazam
HUNTER WAEPON!
评论来自
Allakhazam
This nice kithcen knife with sword specc and hand of justice (
) is damn nice, especcially if they both proc at once :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
thats a hunter weapon cuz u would get alot of melee dmg from 42 str and get alot of highs raptor strike
评论来自
Allakhazam
The sword strike is two normal attacks... so two chances to crit instead of the one. That's how I see it. I see your point but I don't think Sword Spec is in any way inferior to any of the others.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have this sword and i can tell you. Its amazing. With SoC procs i do extreme damage. Kills are rolling in, in pvp.
评论来自
Allakhazam
oeb + HoJ, teh pwn!
评论来自
Allakhazam
it's gettin a new artwork on 1.9
评论来自
Allakhazam
Multiple OEBs can drop in one MC run. I got the 2nd one that dropped. Guess who got the first? That's right, a Pally!
This is a great weapon for warriors who want to get a taste of how powerful Sword spec can really be.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dose this thing have any natural glows on it? Because slapping a +25 agi enchant would put a wicked nice green glow on it, and higher your chances to dodge and get a critical strike. +42 str and
+25 agi, on top of the +8 to 2h sword gives you a 308 skill with swords, plus a chance to crit, and a nice average hit damage... My Arcanite Reaper hits for 400 on average, and crits for 900-1000 at a minimum. and thats with +15 str enchant.... so would a +25 agi be better than a +15 str, or should I slap +15 str on it?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just a quick question.
Which is better, this or the Manslyer of the quaraji?
I currently have the Manslayer, and now my guild is progressing thru MC, id like to get my hands on one of these, for a start its faster, has more strenth and +8 swords, but the manslayer has slightly higher max damage (Im MS Spec) and a load of other nice stats.
A nice reply would be appreciated.
Cheers guys.
/Nytro
评论来自
fathom81
I wonder if it will retain the original graphics instead of the more recent changes
评论来自
effyouzion
Obsidian Edged Blade (OEB) is one of the most underrated items in the game. +8 skill to two-handed swords gives the maximum amount of glancing blow reduction possible while also providing 3% chance to hit against a level 63 mob. The weapon skill makes this otherwise unimpressive weapon competitive with some of the best items in the game for raiding.
On a neutral race (i.e. not Human or Orc): only two-handed weapons from C'thun and late Naxxramas bosses (
疯狂黑暗之刃
,
堕落的灰烬使者
,
米奈希尔之力
) are notably better than OEB. All other weapons, including rank 14 weapons, are comparable or worse.
Weapon quality looks a bit different for Orc/Human because their +5 weapon skill to certain types of weapons can make those weapons better for them. Because of this, OEB should usually go to non-Human/Orc warriors, while Human/Orc get priority on swords/maces or axes, respectively.
OEB is the only way to get two-handed skill on a raid weapon, unless you play Human or Orc. The famous
剑师护手
only provides one-handed weapon skill.
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