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评论来自
6901
I get about a 50% success rate with these. Nothing's better than a hunter rez though. ;)
评论来自
Petergriffin
Very helpful item but doesnt work all the time. It can be a life saver or a dud but if your entire group wipes and you happen to have these you defintly should use them.
评论来自
Taiyoumaru
I've found this of extremely particular importance as a substitue combat ressurection. If you're a rogue or hunter, you can vanish/feign death to quickly exit combat and attempt a ressurection on a dead raid member and pray it works. Recently though, I've noticed it has failed every time I've used it, or my friend used it. It may be bugged. And this is after about 40 uses since last patch, out of which only 3 worked.
评论来自
4067
This is all subjective of course, but I'd personally put the success rate at about 60%. However, I seem to have a higher success rate on lower level people. Entirely possible that it's just co-incidence but worth mentioning all the same.
评论来自
justgiz
Do these share the same cool down as the other cables?
评论来自
Merylyan
Raw mats :
- 6 Thorium Bars
- 2 Runecloths
- 4 Truesilver Bars
- 4 Elemental Earths
- 2 Elemental Airs
- 6 Delicate Copper Wires (12 Copper Bars)
- 4 Essences of Fire
- 2 Ironweb Spider Silks
- 2 Star Rubies
评论来自
47259
I haven't used these before, I have a hunter that has picked up Engineering (lvl 50 now), but these look interesting.
It's just that in my experience after using a trinket you can switch it out for another. For example, on my mage I might use the Nifty Stopwatch, then switch to Blazing Emblem or Carrot on a Stick.
On the other hand, what's the cooldown on these? Or do they have 1 charge?
评论来自
Kimera
This Trinket is a must for any Engineer. Its has helped so much. Even if you have ressurection, this is a seperate cool down.
评论来自
57156
2.3 Patch changes:
"Jumper Cables XL is no longer a trinket."
nice ;-)
评论来自
91442
Is it possible if I went Gnomish Engineering to have a Goblin Engineer make these and give them to me?
Would I be able to use them as a gnomish engineer?
评论来自
maronics
yes, is it possible
评论来自
27804
The big question for 2.3 will be, will the FD - rezz trick work?
Tho now most (if not all) raid encounters make it impossible anyway cause you get an aggro pull (or how ever it works) it would still be a very valuable thing outside the 25 man raids, especially now you dont have to wait 30 seconds to charge them.
评论来自
Thelion
Has anyone tried to do like a hunter/rogue , but with mage's Invisibility ?
评论来自
125110
these things was prolly the prime reason along with bombs that I chose Engi, my, atm lvl 36, warrior do gd with explosives as 2ndary dmg :D
they drop off the barkeeper in BRD, soloable as anyclass past lvl 65-66, combat escapers more fun tho, farmed em with my lvl 70 rogue, went for the fiery wep formular at boss 7 also on all tries, 3 forms and the cables in a couple hours, didnt mind spend some time there rather than wait... :D
评论来自
Tamika
NEVER worked for me in patch 2.4.0. Bug or bad luck? 8 o 9 tries already
EDIT it was bad luck lol :) Don't know whether they nerfed proc rate or not, though... post your post-patch experiencies please
评论来自
RoboKestrel
Over the past several months I've added up all the successes and failures. At exactly 50 successes and 56 failures, I can confirm that the success rate is ostensibly 50% for all level 70 targets of a broad variety of classes. Furthermore, the success/fail ratio has remained stable since I began tracking it, although there are streaks of successes and failures (ie six successes in a row, likewise for failures). These tend to even out over time, although as you can see I'm currently in a failing streak.
I update these stats after every cables use. I am now tracking the rez rates of the
Gnomish Army Knife
. You can find those statistics
here
.
评论来自
Luzze
You don't have to be a goblin engineer to use this item. To learn the schematic (
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=18653
) does require you to be one. But you can buy this off the auction house or ask a goblin engineer to craft it for you if your a gnomish engineer.
评论来自
145511
Who doesn't love, when your vanished rogue (after a little wipe), pull this thingie out and rezz your healer, so u wont have to run all the way?
评论来自
97145
These used to be plausible for a battle rez before they changed FD mechanics, granted you had to sit out of combat for 30 secs to get the cables primed (time I usually took to fill up my mana supply with some water). Sad you can't do that anymore. Actually, it might still work during a regular fight, but I've never had the need to try.
评论来自
63753
not that i have personal experience with the cables, but i've found that vanish, feign death or invisible do not remove you from combat versus raid bosses (kara, gruul etc) but do from none raid bosses
as a mage i like using invis then drinking on some long fights, but tried versus a raid boss (nightbane and prince), and never actually left combat, just reset my aggro
so, on that basis, you can use the FD cable trick in any situation bar a raid boss (which is where it'd be most useful -,- )
评论来自
109634
the success rate for me is very low, like 15-20 %... nobody else experiencing this?
评论来自
smallpwns
My GJCXL have not proced in months. same with my regular cables. any1 else having a crummy rate? ive been resing all lvl ranges...form my lvl 20 noob friend who dies alot to raids.
评论来自
173573
On my warlock I found the jumper cables (and these upgrades) useful on many occasions. The most common being when we're about to whipe, and all the normal res classes are already making friendly with the cold hard floor before I can place the soul stone on them. so I can place it on myself, die, and then res a normal res class and save everyone a walk. Very handy, worth the mats.
评论来自
202536
I have used these to rez my hunter pet when I was out of mana. Pretty nifty.
评论来自
64731
Today something new , and really strange, happened. I vanished before the wpe and used the cable, as usual. The strange thing was that our priest was ported to Sentinel Hill, Westfall. This was in Nexus by the way. Anyone else had this happen?
评论来自
Comett
This can be replaced by
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=40772
which does 7-in-1 tool as well. Average buying price of this knife is 2-5g.
评论来自
255604
Gnomish Army Knife has the same success rate as the goblin jumper cables XL, meaning if you're extremely lazy or can't find a copy of these jumpers anywhere to use, you can always wait until 350 engineering to use the Army knife, the knifes, (being the easiest way to skill up engineering to a certain point) are usually 1-10g (depending on server, with 3g being average) and are extremely easy to find in almost every auction house in-game.
评论来自
314118
is it usable while dead?
评论来自
Thottbot
Yes you can't use both at once, but now they won't break when they fail!
"Jumper Cables no longer have a chance to break when they fail. "
评论来自
Thottbot
yes u can ress ppl after they have released their sprit. i did it with the "non-xL" version...
评论来自
Thottbot
"cuz everytime i try to eq it says ur not skilled enough to use the item thx"
Look, either read THIS page, or read the ITEM's TOOLTIP. Requires 265 Engineering to USE. Requires Goblin Engineer to MAKE. This means:
1) An engineer with at least 265 skill and specialising in Goblin Engineering can learn the schematic, create the cables, and use them.
2) An engineer with at least 265 skill and specialising in Gnomish Engineering (or neither) can NOT learn the schematic, can NOT create the cables, but CAN use them. Buy them off a Goblin Engineer and equip them.
3) A noob with more gold then sense can buy the item, but not use it. If you DON'T have engineering of at least 265, you cannot equip the cables, and you cannot use them. You can resell them, but the fact is, you still didn't READ the item before you bought it.
评论来自
Thottbot
An awesome idea on trying to have your buff and pet at the same time with the jumper cables. However, you can only use the cables when out of combat. Since, to my knowledge, a lock has no way of ending combat, the cables are not useful for battle rezzing your pet.
And since locks have a way of rezzing (soulstone), it makes the jumper cables kinda useless.
I would say it makes the most sense for either a rogue or hunter to go goblin engineering just for the chance to rez in the event of a wipe.
I would suggest telling your groups self rezzers not to use their talents until you have at least TRIED to rez with the cables. This way if it works your group has one more self rez in the bank for later in the instance. If it fails, someone can just self rez and the group is no worse off. The cool down for the cables is shorter than most self rez talents (30 minutes versus 40-60 minutes).
评论来自
Thottbot
I have used this a long time
89 times it worked
111 failure
评论来自
Thottbot
you can have 2 of them equiped at the same time and it uses both at the same time
评论来自
Thottbot
From my experience, they seem to work better if you try to use them on people around your own level. Used em to rez our healer in many instances, but couldn't rez my guildies lvl 60 running me thru things :) hope this helps
评论来自
Thottbot
Through experience I've found that the animation effect doesn't matter. It is as random as rezzing the person. If it shows it backfired, I've rezzed someone and I also haven't rezzed someone. If it shows no backfire charge I didn't rez them or I have rezzed them :/
评论来自
Thottbot
Here are the facts on the Goblin Jumper Cables XL:
Required to Craft: 265 Goblin Engineering
Required to Use: 265 (Goblin-or-Gnomish) Engineering
Jumper Cables (Non-XL) Success Rate: 10%-25% (depending on set)
Jumper Cables XL Success Rate: 70-85% (depending on set)
It's rumored that a 300 Engineer will have a higher chance for them to work than a 265 Engineer would.
===Class Usefulness===
Hunters - 100%
Rogues - 100%
Druid - 75%
Mage - 60%
Warlock - 60%
Warrior - 50%
Shaman - 0%
Priest - 0%
Paladin - 0%
Hunters have Feign Death, Rogues have Vanish, adds another chance every 30 minutes for Druids, (Frost) Mages are good at staying alive, (some stupid) Warlocks tend to soulstone themself, warriors are goood at staying alive, and shaman/priest/paladin have a no-cooldown resurrection spell, so these are useless for them.
Hope this helps.
评论来自
Thottbot
Releasing Spirit is a myth as far as these cables go. Someone who has released spirit has just as much of a chance to be able to resurrect as someone who is still in their body.
评论来自
Thottbot
scince tbc mages can get invisiblity at high lvl this can be used to break aggro in instance and means these jumper cables are fantastic i often am able now to survive and get the main healer back up and get party back on way quick so i would say that previous post that put usefullness at 60% for mages is now 100% usefull
cheers
评论来自
Thottbot
the success rate for my jumper cables fell to 30% after BC
评论来自
Thottbot
these have not worked for me the 20 or so times i have attempted to use, i am a gnomish engineer, and had them crafted by a friend, wonder if this makes any difference =S
评论来自
Thottbot
Oh yeah, i forgot something. Releasing your spirit does absolutely nothing. The whole point of Blizzard giving people that option is so that if someone in their group loots something, the person that has not released their spirit has a chance to roll on it.
评论来自
Thottbot
when a hunter or a rogue got this this its great.
I remember when i was in mara on last boss and the rogue vanished when we wiped (or it was a hunter what ever..) then ressed me so i could ress the otherts.
Just great becuse it would have sucked to run back.
评论来自
Thottbot
As from patch 2.3 (currently on public test realms), jumper cables will no longer be a trinket. They will be directly usable from your inventory, eliminating the 30sec trinket equip cooldown.
评论来自
Thottbot
i got it with my mage with tbc it is SO usefull! i simply use invisibility then i rez them!
it is now usefull for mage/rogue/hunter =P
评论来自
Allakhazam
From my experience (so far), these have 'blown up' on me once, but were not destroyed. I got back a bunch of materials from them being "ruined", but I still have them in my trinket slot (and they are still usable).
评论来自
Allakhazam
I can't even begin to count the number of these I've sold...can't make them fast enough. So many more people go Gnome engineer and want a pair of these babies for obvious reasons.
Just one more reason why Goblin Engineers rock the Kasbah.
评论来自
Allakhazam
as of 1.5, these no longer explode. they also increased the chance for both of the cables to work. i only used the normal ones, and before the patch it was maybe a 2% chance, now it looks to be around 10% or maybe even more. i would only think that the XL also received the chance upgrade, in any case im sure they have a higher chance to revive then the older ones. i don't think blizzards intention was for you to sink your materials and eat same cooldown just for a smaller chance.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Works very much for me, atleast about 75% of the time.
And ive had them for over 10 months, used them over 120 times
very nice ones, def worth the money
评论来自
Allakhazam
Selling these on Maive Realm, Pst Shadownage... Mats + 10g
评论来自
Allakhazam
Whats the difference between these and normal cables? These have a better success rate?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Was in DM with a hunter who had them. It worked two times in a row.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well I am dissapointed. Took me ages to get these babies and out of the 5 times ive used it so far, its worked 0.
So much for a higher success rate. I was told it would almost work everytime.
评论来自
Allakhazam
yeah what is the diff between these and normal.is it like priests where the target rezes with more health, or is the cooldown short or what?
评论来自
Allakhazam
They take more skill to use and require considerably more materials, i would think they work better.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is the Trinket BoP?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have used mine at least 15 times, with only one success... I think they are trash and am really dissapointed with them. Not worth the investment in my opinion.
评论来自
Allakhazam
These definitely are better than normal cables -- for me they work more than they fail, implying a 60% rate, or maybe even 75%. I've used them around 20 times in total. Someone should post an exact figure on this.
And no they're not BoP, but since everyone picks gnomish engineering it might be hard to find a goblin engineer to make a pair.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I assume they do, but does anybody know if these and the regular Jumper Cables share the same 30-min Cooldown? Or can I keep both with me in case one fails and try the other?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Maybe these work even after someone releases?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Yes, I was wondering that too.
评论来自
Allakhazam
My normal cables work 1 in 3 times. However it is vital the dead person does not do release spirit otherwise they never work.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I believe with the normal ones they have a 30 min cooldown, so it's a 1/3 chance of it working. However with these you can try again. I think.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Please read all the posts before u ask a question like this. If u look up it is said SEVERAL times that they have a better success rate.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just got mine for 2g from AH...
lucky day...
first two rares during STV fishing contest now this...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just for your information.
Regular Cables are 25% chance.
XL ones are 50%.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have had these for 3 weeks now and not once have they worked. In my opinion the normal easy ones work much better.
And no, you cant use both of them, theyre on the same timer.
Edited, Thu Aug 11 23:46:33 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
so i have to have engineering to use?
评论来自
OhQueso
The best thing I've seen done with these is; Both our pallys flubbed their DI on a wipe and DI'd me (A druid with a B-Rez down), and a Hunter. All we had up after a wipe was myself, and two hunters, all engineers. You are able to pass the jumper cables between each other since the cooldown on them is for the person, not the cables. so we were able to get a priest up by zapping her 3 times with the same cables
评论来自
256124
Why are the comments about not being able to get out of combat heavily downvoted? They are factually correct and relevant to this item.
I was in Gruul's lair and Kara last night and the only time on a boss fight feign death will drop you from combat is when no other players are on the bosses threat table(namely they died) - Before the change you could tell if Feign Death had resisted because you wouldn't drop combat, this is no longer the case and additionally things like boss auras can trigger you to be back on the threat table meaning the boss will kill you before resetting.
I believe these used to have a 100% success rate but it was nerfed to the point the item rarely works. Overall not particularly useful and the reason for them being in this state is not justifiable given the combat restriction.
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