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评论来自
Crevox
This item comes from pickpocketing monsters around level 50. There are other lock boxes as well for higher levels with better items inside, and require a higher skill level.
This is one of the main ways a rogue gets Lockpicking skill ups. These boxes come from various humanoid monsters when pick-pocketed, and have to be lockpicked to be opened. Not only does this give skill, but it also can give various things for rogues (poison ingredients, junk loot to sell for money, or even gems).
评论来自
45438
Pickable at skill 250. At 275 is yellow and 300 is green. Pick pocketed from 52-60 lvl mobs. Contains poisons reagents. Rarely any gems. Likely healing pots.
评论来自
36140
This is also the only way to get Ravenholdt rep at a certain point.
There's really nothing practical from having Ravenholdt rep past the rogue quests, however.
评论来自
94309
A good source of these are the Furbolgs at the northernmost Felwood. Lot better than trying to pickpocket these from the Hellfire orcs.
评论来自
WarlordGrat
Recieved Plans: Raidant Boots out of one of these.
评论来自
94625
If you're doing alterac valley and your lockpicking skill is <300, go through the mines and pickpocket all the mobs there. There are tons of mobs in each mine and they all give a chance to drop a heavy junkbox. I did this and each run netted me about 3-4 boxes. Not much but it adds up! Make sure to kill the head miner to capture the mine for your side, too.
评论来自
40769
Reinforced steel lockbox is listed as a drop by
Swamp Talkers
, not Heavy Drop box, and the % is far less than 50. Also, there is ONLY ONE, the map makes it look like there are lots of them.
评论来自
105651
If you're looking to level up your lockpicking towards the end of 300, I found that not only the doors in BRD, but pickpocketing for boxes was a great and fast way to do so, in the 'audience' of the Ring of the Law (usually referred to as the arena) I could pick-pocket quickly and easily for between 2-5 Heavy Junkboxes per round.
Hope this helps. :)
评论来自
153483
lol @ the guy who got the blazing longsword from it
评论来自
158492
Just got
Alcor's Sunrazor
from one of these.
评论来自
Kirina
I looted a Shadowblade(
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=2163
) from one of the junkboxes...wierd that it's not even on the list :D
评论来自
nusmesa
Got a Formula: Enchant Boots - Greater Stamina!
评论来自
92983
Price of these will go
insane
, when 3.1 hits.
The new achievement ("Insane in the Membrane") with title reward ("the Insane"), require you to get Ravenholdt faction to exalted, which past Honored is only possible with a repeatable quest
Junkboxes Needed
.
评论来自
evankimori
Another great place to make a good farming push for these is BRD. Note that this instance contains dogs that can and
WILL
see through stealth but if you can dodge around them farming: there are more than enough humanoids throughout the entire instance that can yield a good stash of these junkboxes if you're farming to sell for the upcomming achievement. I've gotten over 40 just wandering through and not even reaching the end of the instance!
The only bad catch here is that the nearest mailbox is probably Kargath for Horde anyway so I'd reccomend going with a
MOLL-E
or some very empty bags.
I sense rogues are going to finally make (more of) a killing off farming and selling these to players who wish to do that
'Insane In The Membrane'
achievement. 1400 junkboxes. Owch.
评论来自
148317
You cannot sell these items on the Auction House.
You can't sell lootable items on the Auction House so get ready to spam trade with WTS
Heavy Junkbox
, PST!
On a side note a good place to farm these is Lower Blackrock Spire off the Orcs. Keeps you free from opening doors and having to kill stuff to get anywhere, there really is heaps of NPCs around without any hassle. (No stealth seeing dogs etc.)
If anyone else has a better place they should be using the
WoWhead client
to send data in about where they get the boxes to help people out!
Have fun and good luck on your titles! ^_~
评论来自
212003
is it possible for these to drop from anyone, or is it just a bug from people targeting as they pickpocket?
评论来自
246181
To anyone who buys these how much are you paying? I know it'll vary from server to server but I have no idea how much I should pay for them.
评论来自
panica
I have personaly started to farm these in UBRS, lower one to be more specific and i am now managing to get 90 of those in 45 minutes (with 70lvl rogue). I am uploading data to wowhead so people can see the drop rates cause i couldnt find any addon that is counting % of success from pickpocketing, but so far I am more satisfied then pickpocketing mobs in Eastern Plaguelands. Only problem is having largest bags at you, and going to UBRS every time after you take HS to mail the boxes you got but still if you dont have enough gold to buy largest bags this achievement isnt for you cause of from my calculations I will spend at least 25000 gold on darkmoon faire reputation :P (in best case). If anyone has some better advice where to farm these please say so. And can please some alliance rogue try to pickpocket Stonard Grunt in Swamp of Sorrows at horde base there cause there are too low numbers on wowhead uploaded. Maybe those mobs are best for farming these boxes if you are lucky to be on alliance side, cause i cant find better counterpart on horde side. If there are interested ones I can explain later whats the best path to take in there to maximise your gathering unless someone suggest some quicker method in gathering more then 2 boxes per minute.
评论来自
155390
I too have been doing LBRS as a lvl 71 rogue. I just start from the beginning, pick everything from start to Wyrmthalak. Then walk over to the bridge right before his room, drop one level to the Orges hanging out down there (near the pile) and then drop another level to the next Ogres. If you just normal walk off (don't jump) you can do it without taking falling damage. Then start from there and head back up. I'm not sure on the exact time it takes me, i know the other day i spent 3.5 hours to get 100 boxes (and that was one of my better runs : / )
I'm farming for four ppl, and I'm almost done with my second person. It takes me about two rounds to get 50, and for alliance the closest mailbox is Redridge (sorry horde not sure for ya'll).
I've offered as much as 2g a box to some friends on my server but yeah that's not enough to get them biting, and after doing this for two more (non humans to boot -_-) i most likely won't be offering to sell any.
my record for going the longest without getting a box was 57 picks btw.
New Record: 63 picks w/o a box.
New new record: 78 picks w/o a box. :D
评论来自
214368
I have been collecting these for about a week now. On my server someone has already offered me 9k gold for 1470 boxes but i reckon they will easily sell for 10g+ each once the patch goes live.
I've mainly been going to LBRS with my 80 rogue.I pickpocket bout 30mobs then pull them all and evasion/fan of knives them to death heh. Runecloth + other drops is adding up to about 200g per hour, with something like 30-40boxes also!
My glyph of pick pocket is finally getting some good use heh.
评论来自
evankimori
Here's a small guide I wrote to help Rogues with some farming of these lockboxes. Credit to
panicka
and
herrojima
for educating me on LBRS vs BRD in terms of droprate, mob level and humanoid population.
Note that this is a speed & efficiency guide for rogues level 65+ and omits trash selling of looted greys (like books), food, Vanilla WoW gems and health potions etc. I destroy those items from my bag since the boxes are what I'm after and additional items like these tend to slow you down. I use level 65 as a reference, since at that level; you shouldn't be caught too often or at all regardless. If you're still having problems with being caught often,
some
points
in
Subtlety
and/or some +Stealth gear should help you out immensely:
Get 18 or 20 slot bags. You're gonna need all the space you can get. 20 is preferred. Spend the $$ and upgrade your bags if you can-the money will come back to you by the time you've done a sale of a few boxes.
Empty them all. You're not going to be fighting anything in here. Killing a humanoid will yield less loot. If you're caught/pickpocket resisted/detected: Vanish.
Keep your Hearthstone and a stack of Health Pots in your bags. You shouldn't need anything else. If caught - Vanish.
For maximum efficiency
- set (Horde) Hearthstone to Kargath. Sorry Alliance, I don't know your FP's. :(
Turn on
Auto-loot
in Interface options. You'll be one-button target/tapping all the way around.
Make a
macro
to Sap/Pickpocket mobs and bind it to a hotkey.
Suggestion -
I use
'Q'
since I move with WSAD.
Start from the front of LBRS and pickpocket your way around. Don't worry about getting into UBRS or killing the various mobs to open the doors. We're going for speed + time VS profit here. Clear the UBRS entrance room and keep going around.
PP your way through the instance up to Wyrmthalak at the end. If you still have bag space by this time - log out while in the instance and log back in. All pockets will have reset, you're standing next to the end boss so it's a matter of reversing your direction now - PP your way
out
now and you should have full bags by the time you've reached the entrance again.
If bags are full: hearth out to your nearest FP, head to a vendor and start opening those boxes. Remember to turn
OFF
Auto-loot before you begin or you'll lose everything from your boxes when they're opened. Remember to leave
at least one item
in them. Glyph of Pick Pocket (-100% cast time in Patch 3.1) practically shines here by reducing the time needed to open each box. Various vendor trash calculation mods are helpful here to see what's the highest seller of what items are in them. Congrats on any greens/blue/epics you may get in a box or two!
Using the mailbox at your nearest FP: mail all the boxes in bulk to your alt/bank character/customer, get back on the flight and head back to Thorium Point to begin a fresh run. Pockets will have respawned by the time you get back so you should be ready to collect again.
Happy pickpocketing everyone and good luck on your
achievement
!
评论来自
328743
I've been farming for the Insane title, and after three bars into revered, I opened one of my heavy junkboxes and got a Shadowblade. :) I know its not near enough to make it worth farming them, but it was such a nice little surprise. Keep opening them while you farm. You might really get an epic out of it.
EDIT I've been farming at Tir's Hand by the way. Since I used to play Vanilla WoW a lot, just seemed like the best place to go.
评论来自
250447
I wanna give a try on Insane in the membrane achievement too :D however... i am a mage... money isn a big problem i guess... but would be more likely for anyone to sell these boxes for a price...
Would let's say 2g per box be ok?
One more thing... it can't be opened right? no need for it to be locked actually:3?
评论来自
271469
Question, I see "Dropped by" tab list several creatures (some of which have a decent drop rate too).
I also see the "Pickpocketed from" list...do these actually drop from the creatures (i.e. could a non-rogue feasibly farm them?)
Only asking because I haven't seen many selling the boxes...and even if I was going to pay for them....5k-10k gold is a little steep for my price range +).
This is probably a dumb question...but never had a rogue, so not familiar at all with the differences between the two tabs (other then the implied idea that these boxes do in fact drop, instead of only coming from pick pocketing).
评论来自
9951
Well as this item is now in demand due to Insane in the Membrane, i am going to share with you the things i have learned when farming 1400 boxes for my guildmate.
First off i started the farming in Tyrs Hand, not a good idea as i had to kill them to reset and re pickpoket them. This was a big big problem as it cut down the ammount of time i was picking pockets and getting the lockboxes, this is without the fact that they are spread out so mutch and have to wait for respawns ect ect. i was lucky to get 20 in 2 hrs
So i moved to LBRS this is far far better you can get about 100 in just under 3 runs (about 1hr)on average ( if you pickpoket every single mob in the instance incluting the ones at the entrance to UBRS). Dont bother with UBRS you have to kill mobs to get in kill rend that takes time and it will jsut slow you down , the mobs that guard the runes are fine.
I use a macro so i do not have to loot each mob , this way i can walk up to each mob ( i used imp steath speed tallets mutalate speed boost ect as my second spec it saves a huge amount of time) and tab to select it and press a pickboxet button and it auto loots everything.
/script SetCVar("AutoLootDefault", 1)
/cast Pick Pocket
/in 1 /script SetCVar("AutoLootDefault", 0)
My path is a follows
Enternace room > UBRS rune area > second room with orcs before room with wooden bridges > room with wooden bridge > ogre area ( the none summon boss room) > troll area both floors > lower orc area with huts ect > next ogre area via spider room > next orc area > final boss room > reset
I hope this is of use to anyone who is going for The insane or who is helping out a guildy.
EDIT
A few people are talking about selling them well in return for the 1400 junkboxes and 5k gold i am getting a bike :)
评论来自
LockeColeMA
I am currently in the middle of this grind (800 or so junkboxes left). I am using a level 62 rogue alt that I leveled solely for this purpose... heck, her name is "Junkboxing"!
I too started in EPL at Tyr's Hand. I don't think the above poster is correct in the "20 in 2 hours" thing. Making a loop around the area nets lets you completely clear it without killing any enemies and the ones at the beginning will have their pockets refilled when you get back to them. However, I did encounter the same downfall for this area: not enough spawns close together! The traveling time between groups really bites; also you may have competition if someone else is doing the same thing. You make around 50 junkboxes per hour here. The upside is that it is very close to LHC, so you have an easy hearth, mail, and trip back (5 minutes total for all of that).
So after doing this for a while I moved to LBRS. At 62 it's a little scary. However, I get 68 junkboxes in about 40 minutes here (all the free space in my bags). Sometimes it can vary. Usually it takes around 2 complete clears/resets to get this many. Sometimes it varies. On one very unlucky run I barely had 20 after a complete clear. On another I had 50 after a complete clear. So it can vary wildly.
My route is pretty easy. Pickpocket the enemies in the entrance room, including the three small rooms to the sides. Follow the patrol to the right of the entrance, go up the ramp and pickpocket the guys up there. Then go like you would normally go through the instance. When you get to the ogres, drop down to ground floor where all the orcs are. Pickpocket them, run past the spiders, and pickpocket the 8 ogres or so while continuing upstairs. Go all the way to the end of the instance (boss cannot be pickpocketed).
At the end, turn around and head back. Jump off the bridge back to where the 8 ogres are. Jump down again to where the Overlord ogre guy is. Pickpocket all of them, go back to the bridge and jump back to the ground floor. Sometimes the orcs down here have their pockets refilled, sometimes not. Either way, head to the troll area, pickpocket everything, head upstairs to the troll boss area, and then work your way back to the beginning of the entrance.
A full circuit takes around 20 minutes. Leave the instance, reset, and do it again! When my bags are full, I hearth to Lakeshire, mail, and fly back to Burning Steppes, then run to the instance. I don't have my epic mount on this character, so it takes me a little longer. But in 50 minutes or so I can fill all my bags, mail everything, and be back to a fresh instance. This means I average around 80 boxes an hour. Note that I do not have access to UBRS, which might be a good place as well with all the orcs at the start. At 62 I am hardly ever discovered; Sap takes care of scary places, and vanish works if something goes really wrong.
I still have a while to go, but this is the last rep for my Insane title on my main. Wish me luck!
评论来自
Mhila
Im doing this grinding for my main the bad thing its that a need to lavel a rogue but i AM INSANE so i just dont mind jajajajaja i actually dont mind eather pay a rogue for the 1700.....but im more like do it yourself sooooo another week for an rogue alt(my bf its going to kill me jajajajaja he hates alts )anyway what its the best quick level rogue?
评论来自
385945
I'm working on this grind right now for ravenholdt rep and have tried UBRS and Tyr's Hand and can say that Tyr's Hand is hands down the best place to pickpocket these boxes. Start at the entrance and do a large loop around the entire place, pickpocketing every single mob (go inside all of the buildings). Doesn't take long to fill up your bags. Then it's just a quick trip back to Light's Hope Chapel to mail the boxes to your alt for a quick return to the farming grounds.
评论来自
Smokingwolf
i made a lvl 56 rogue for raven rep farm. i have farmed 4 hours in tyr's hand and the drop rate is around 60 boxes per hour +/- 5. The good thing in there is that you never have to wait! anything or kill anybody, just run around and pp, the mailbox is very close.so is vendors if ya want to sell something or repair. although the droprate seems kinda small, i wont go to lbrs or brd for 2 reasons - 1. wowhead droprates are far from perfect ( 2 out of 7 etc) .2. logistical problems: no mailbox, if you die you have to run very long time
good luck anyways
ps: I downloaded the wowhead client for this but dont know when they will update those numbers.I upload data twice a day. can anyone tell me how does it work excactly?
评论来自
217517
So I started farming these in LBRS yesterday, and I think I can get about 90-100 in an hour.
I did a test run and here is the results:
Time: 40 minutes
Heavy Junkboxes: 78
Money gained: 20g 15s 72c
I also got alot of
Superior Healing Potions
and
Exotic Cookbooks
, but I threw them out to make room for junkboxes.
The testing was done on an 80 rogue with
Master of Deception
and
Camouflage
.
I also had
Glyph of Pick Pocket
.
评论来自
398435
This Macro Will Save You HOURS!
/console set targetnearestdistance 10
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast pick pocket
Set the first line to '5' if you dont have Glyph of Pick Pocket
Basically, have auto loot on and walk up to any mob and it will pickpocket it, if you spam this button while moving around a group of mobs it will pickpocket them all, very fast.
You might notice your chat log saying you've looted the same mob more then once, you really havent, it is just confused because you are changing targets so fast.
Just keep spamming the button, and it will pickpocket whichever mob youre closest to.
Have fun farming your heavy junkboxes!
评论来自
Alatoth
There is also a rather big drop rate from the mobs at Hellfire Peninsula:
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/npc=19701
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/npc=18952
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/npc=16876
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/npc=16925
plus all the mobs outside and inside Zeth'Gor.
from what i have see 1/5 mobs drop a heavy junkbox.
Hope it helps
评论来自
Zunturk
lol Bilbin that achievment sounds a little hare to accomplish dont ya think?
评论来自
Seilgrank
Just for fun, I decided to see what the most valuable items in the junkboxes were so it was easy to tell what to leave in the junkboxes and what to loot. Using the loot data here on Wowhead, each box contains an average of 3.75s (Actual money contained appears to fluctuate between 1.5-6s).
Five of the items in the Heavy Junkbox loot table vendor for more than 3.75s on average, and therefore take priority over money:
Star Ruby
(Vendors for 50s each, averages 5g on Auction House),
Rogue's Diary
(45.62s),
Major Healing Potion
(10s, 50s on AH),
Shabby Knot
(2.25s each, 2-4 per drop), and
Humanoid Skull
(6.67s).
The remaining items all vendor for less than 3.75s on average, including the rogue poisons. Money should usually take priority over these.
As for the pickpocketing itself, everything you end up looting is worth less than the junkboxes themselves, with the possible exception of
Star Ruby
if you choose to auction it.
Superior Healing Potion
vendors for only 12.5s per stack and auctions for about 1g per stack, making it less valuable than the junkboxes. Pickpocketed food vendors for 40s per stack, and the other items vendor for even less. This assumes a value of roughly 1-4g per junkbox.
Your mileage may vary depending on auction prices on your server and the actual amount of money contained in an individual junkbox.
评论来自
davidthemonkey
http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=4&tal=30530010530210000000000000030403020000000000000000000005322232100002120053030000000
glyph of sprint/pickpocket/vanish/distract/safe fall are all good glyphs for this aswell, hope this helps speed things up a little bit.
评论来自
jormundgard
The percentages quoted here are all messed up, maybe because it doesn't record a "fail" unless there's some loot to go with the coins you pickpocket. LBRS junkbox rates are closer to 10%. But there's still a lot of pockets to pick, so it's still a good place to go.
评论来自
zmayche
im sure i did read all comments but i dont think any1 mentioned if boxes stack and if yes how big are stacks? i've just started lvling a rogue so i could farm them so..
ty in advance
评论来自
SJBequeath
Having just pulled 50 of these off BRD Mobs for Ravenholdt Rep, here are some numbers:
Total Wealth: 1g 20s 22c
Average per box: 3s 88.44c
Highest amount in one box: 5s 98c
Lowest amount in one box: 1s 52c
Boxes containing more than money: 22
(that is 1 extra every 2.27 boxes)
Box Contents-
Crippling Poison - 1
Deadly Poison IV - 5
Deadly Poison V - 1
Instant Poison IV - 3
Instant Poison V - 5
Mind Numbing Poison - 3
Star Ruby - 1
Wound Poison IV - 3
Wealth is for the boxes only and does not include what I grabbed directly from the pockets. I don't know how long it took to pull these as I rarely pay attention to time.
评论来自
jandy
im currently collecting these for a pally who needs for the insane title quite easy an thanks to the comments spend bout 2hrs running through lbrs pickpocketing an then selling the boxes to him for 15g a pop easy money thnx for the tips guys
评论来自
293216
I have decided to start buying these c.o.d. and the response I got was unbelievable. I started with a price of 5g each and then I saw a flood of other buyers going as high as 100g. Then I got a tell from someone telling me this is one of the rarest items in the game and you will never find them for sale, ever! One guy offered to sell one for 1200g! Did they change the drop rate for these somehow making it impossible to find even one? I might pay as much as 10-20g each but I'm not paying 100g for somerthing I need over 1300 of.
评论来自
jcj64200031
As people have mentioned, LBRS is one of the best places to go to farm these. So, I've made a video of my route through LBRS. it takes about 8 minutes and runs past 150 mobs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZTSzO9QK5s
I've been using this path for all my lockboxes, and I'm about 75% done as of this post.
评论来自
313854
Im going for the Insane ach.
While farming Dire Maul north, i pickpocket every mob. Tho in a full run (pickpocketing and killing) every mob i get between 5-12 boxes. Takes bout 45min
I went to tyrs hand and pickpocketed (not killing) and got 20 boxes in like 8min.
So i guess the "droprate" in inaccurate, since farming Tyrs for theese seemes faster, if u just want lockboxes.
评论来自
Spudz09
As a master of trickery and theft currently in employment for the second time in 2 weeks i'd like to add my 2 cents.
I find Hearthglen to be quite an easy and profitable place to farm said junkboxes. the first trip or 2 round usually results in less boxes than the later as you will need to weed out a few mobs that can see through stealth, for an 80 rogue its possible to sap and pickpocket them before disposing of them in the hope (quite regular) that a non stealth seeing mobs will spawn.
My route around leaves out the main castle building (garanteed stealth seeing mobs) and i find rather than waiting 30-45 secs for pockets to refill i ride down the hill picking as i go for extra boxes and no downtime.
The route take around 7-10mins per go and has an average yield of 14boxes per go.
Most boxes in 1 run has been 37
Least has been (sadly) 2
Generally its 1-2 from average (ofc)
I have (purposely) 84 free spaces in my bag which take between 40mins to 1.5 hours to fill.
While i can see this may not be the fastest way to get the boxes needed, it may prove useful to lower level rogues (easier to kill mobs if needed), and personally i found LBRS to be annoying to navigate and generally a pain to do.
When gathering boxes Engineering is awsome, i simply get my 84 boxes and mail to said employer using MOLL-E and log out on site as i rarely use my rogue for anything else.
Think about the number of spaces in your bag before you go. A tip would be to follow my lead.
84 boxes = 7 full mail loads (12 per mail) = (for me) 120g per COD payment = 840g per load.
I use these numbers to keep track of the number collected and the number needed to collect still.
I find my employers appreciate me knowing whats left, letting them work on other parts of the "insane" achievement without worry. Which has and will result in a Bonus payment upon completion in a timely manner.
I wish you all luck in your lockbox ventures and i hope this has helped in some way.
评论来自
521117
heavy jungbox
评论来自
Keshiana
These can also be pick-pocketed from the Kobolds guarding the Coldtooth mine in Alterac Valley, (Lvl 60-69 bracket). There's a lot of them in close proximity, but usually facing the walls of the mines. There are usually only one at a time who are facing areas that a rogue would be stealthing through, so they can be easily sapped or distracted. I got about a dozen boxes in one run through the mine, along with assorted potions and gnome effigies. (Why does everyone hate gnomes so much?)
Watch out for the Geomancers, though. Their flame shield will break your stealth, and then you're usually looking at 4-6 kobolds turning away from mining walls to mine your face. It is not fun. If that happens, make sure to run AWAY from the Geomancer before vanishing.
Presumably, the faction-specific mobs can be pick-pocketed as well.
Of course, this means you're in a battleground and completely ignoring the BG objectives, so please don't do it in my group. ^_^
评论来自
83450
I recommend these
talents and glyphs
to anybody farming these. The remaining talents go wherever you feel like as does the 3rd major glyph since this spec is gimp for damage and is only useful for pickpocket farming.
This setup will give you the most bang for your buck.
评论来自
lysaea
I haven't played a high-level rogue (although once I finish farming my Shendralar rep I'm going to roll one and grind it to farm my own boxes) so I can't test this myself, but I'm curious. In the Darkmaster Gandling fight in Scholomance, everytime he teleports you, three
Risen Guardian
mobs spawn. According to the wowhead statistics, these mobs have a 33% rate of carrying junkboxes on pickpocket. When I fight Gandling, he teleports me regularly, which means frequent spawns of these junkbox-carrying mobs, so I was wondering if it would be a feasible way of farming junkboxes for Ravenholdt rep. I know that there would have to be some way to get back into stealth which is tricky in combat, so I don't know how feasible it is.
I'm also wondering if the drop rate really is 33%, because the mob statistics only show six pickpockets, hardly enough to have valid statistical analysis.
Any higher-level rogues want to answer my question on this being feasible?
评论来自
535061
i tried out LBRS and it worked amazingly. in two full clears, starting from begninning, going to wyrmthalak, then back to begining and same again. took about 30 mins and gained 40 boxes. if you keep getting that amount, you need about 40 full pickpocket clears, and less if you are human.
评论来自
Beatriz
I have been buying these on my mage for the last few months in between farming the other reps. I plan to level up my (currently) lvl 33 rogue soon to do my own farming, but I've gotten just under 500 by using a simple trade macro asking people to CoD them to me at 5g a piece.
I'm doing this on Arygos, Alliance side, and am willing to bargain if you have some to sell but want a higher price.
Just some notes for fellow Insanity seekers, don't expect one rogue to farm these for you. The best case scenario is have multiple rogues getting them for you. Most of my suppliers have been rogues who are level 50-60 who just happen to pick them up as they level. My normal supplier sends me a dozen or so then moves on to the Outlands. Very occasionally, I find someone who was stockpiling them for one reason or another or who just wants to be helpful. I've had guildies pick up some for me here and there, but rarely do I get more than 50 from one particular person.
Generally, my macro results in people wanting to know why I want these items, so be prepared to answer questions. Remember, you never know what alts people have, so everyone is a potential supplier (you could also put an explanation into your macro, but I find I run out of room before everything is explained). A lot of people haven't even heard of this achievement, so people will want to know what you are up to.
I've had some whispers telling me I'm not paying enough, but I haven't found there to be much competition for these items on my server, and like I said, I will negotiate.
These items can be locked or unlocked, so rogues can use them to level lockpicking and then supply them to insane people like me.
Remember: there is no reason to hurry this. I suggest starting to advertise for these the moment you decide to go for the achievement. You aren't going to be able to raise the other factions over night, so you might as well go slow with Ravenholdt too. I started out getting about 100 a week. It's gone down lately. It's going to take time, but so is killing Booty Bay Bruisers, Pirates, turning in Librams, and Darkmoon Decks. Nothing in this achievement is easy. No reason Ravenholdt needs to happen over night.
评论来自
56415
TL;DR Version of Most of the Useful info in this comment section and the section of comments for "Junkboxes Needed" + some of my own insight.
1. Use this macro for quick Pick Pocketing (ty peeka)
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast pick pocket
2. Use this macro to delete common humanoid loot other than junkboxes in Blackrock Spire (ty marshen)
/run f=string.find;for b=0,4 do for s=1,32 do n=GetContainerItemLink(b,s);if n and(f(n,"Homemade Cherry Pie")or f(n,"An Exotic Cookbook")or f(n,"Roasted Quail")or f(n,"Superior Healing Potion")) then PickupContainerItem(b,s);DeleteCursorItem();end;end;end
3. If you have a Rogue 60+, it is a Good idea to spec it Subtlety to pick up talents like Master of Deception, Dirty Tricks, Camouflage, Preparation, and Shadowstep. Used together they help yield very quick Pick Pocketing
4. Helpful Glyphs are Pick Pocket and Pick Lock
5. The Best zone to Farm these is in Blackrock Spire with a level 60+ Rogue (Dungeon between Searing Gorge and the Burning Steppes)
6. You can unlock these and still pilfer Some of the loot Some of the time without them disappearing. To do this the easiest way, Disable Auto Loot in your Interface > Controls section. Typically cold hard silver is the best you will get but once in a while something of value is in there. Do Not Loot the silver if it is the only thing in there! Make sure to leave at least one item/coin set in there.
7. These are used in a quest to grind Ravenholdt faction. That faction is tied to a Feat of Strength title and often lazy/rich players will buy these between 1-10 gold a piece. If you find someone willing to pony up 10 gold a piece and if you loot ~70 an hour, you can make 700 gold an hour which beats the heck out of most gold farming and you don't even need an 80. THESE CANNOT BE SOLD ON THE AUCTION HOUSE. So if you want to stockpile to sell them, your best bet is mailing them to an alt for temp Mail Storage (30 days) or to fill that alt's bags/guild bank.
8. I myself only have a neglected Rogue alt so I did not know the finer points of speed pick pocketing. Here are some tips. When using the targeting/PP macro, make sure your character is looking in the direction of your target you want to pick pocket. Even if there is a target much closer, if there is a target in your direct direction you will probably target that instead. If you are coordinated enough and the set of mobs allows, you can Strafe by them without ever stopping or slowing down. Also, Pick Pocketing does not trigger the Global Cool Down. Sapping does. If you want/feel the need to Sap, go ahead and sap first and immediately pick pocket, you won't be penalized.
9. Vanish is your friend. An aggro'd mob = time wasted and if you haven't Pick Pocketed them yet, a potential lockbox down the drain.
评论来自
Beatriz
My rogue is now farming these for my main (a mage) and I've had mixed success. Sometimes I'll clear go through the Felwood Furbolg camp and come out with 20 boxes, sometimes 2. Depend on the night, I guess.
My original intent was to buy all the boxes, but I'm too impatient for that, and even though they are coming in slowly, I want to be done with the rep once and for all.
My secondary intent was to level the rogue to at least 60 before starting so that I could run around Scholomance and Blackrock Depths with some degree of impunity. Again, my impatience over took me and I started farming these to some degree as soon as the mobs became yellow (and I try when they are orange, often needing to vanish afterwards). That said, I thought it might be helpful to talk about areas where one can continue to level while farming because running around BRD on a level 52 just hoping no one sees you simply sucks but so does waiting level upon level while farming mobs that don't even drop what you want for XP.
Felwood, Winterspring, Blasted Lands.
Most notably the Timbermaw hold rep quest lines and the demon killing rep lines in Felwood, the Furbolg killing quest lines in Winterspring, and the Fallen Hero of the Horde quest lines in the Blasted Lands. You can pickpocket then kill. The respawn rate on most of the mobs is about the same as the reset rates on the pickpockableness of the mobs, so you might as well just kill after you've cleared the room nasty Baggins style. It's always good to know what the mobs have in their pocketsssssssssssss.
Oh, and if you pick up a level or two, pretty much every undead in Andorhal and beneath Stratholme drops these too, at a very good rate.
评论来自
380403
Starting at level 51, I began queuing for AV in between to help break up the monotony of levelling to pick these boxes. I got the idea to go in a cave and do a circuit around - guess what, the troggs and snivels crew yield about 8-15 and by then they are respawned to do again. Depending on how good your AV group is, you might get a few passes in here as long as no one flips the mine. In addition, you get rep, experience, and honor while you are farming these babies.
I only started LBRS today and have over 300 from doing AV from 51-60. I plan to do it again to break up LBRS a bit and give me a free hearth to a graveyard and place to sell off junk.
UPDATE: Still yield these boxes in the 61-70 bracket
评论来自
creo
picked 1500 of theese for the insane rep farm. opened up every one of em, HAPPY to see 3 x teebu's blazing longswords. Would recommend checking the boxes for loots ;p
评论来自
Gaignun
For those of you leveling a rogue explicitly for junkbox farming: I just found a really amazing way to get easy junkboxes while you are leveling. It does require you to have points in subtlety for increased stealth as well as the pickpocket glyph to make it easy (having maxed lockpicking for your level helps too), but while you are leveling in your early 50s use LFG to get into BRD Prison.
After everyone clears the boss and leaves, go back and pop the locks to the highway and garrison and go to town! Be extremely mindful of the dogs and elementals, of course, but at level it’s still a breeze. Ring of Law is amazing for boxes. When you’ve run out of pockets to pick, simply kill yourself and run back, they’ll reset by the time you do.
But the most important part of this is you have to use the LFG tool. Because you can
TELEPORT OUT OF THE INSTANCE AND RIGHT BACK
for extremely easy access to a mailbox and instantly resume farming!
I did this tonight for about half an hour to an hour and got about 40 junkboxes that way on my level 51 rogue. I was originally planning on getting her above 60 before considering farming dungeons like BRD or LBRS, but having LFG has made me change my mind and I can start getting junkboxes sooner than I had originally planned. Something to keep in mind if you’re still leveling!
I intend to milk this for as long as I can. ;P It definitely saves me a ton of time leveling, not to mention time spent getting there and back once I got my rogue over 60.
评论来自
ChilaKIlla
Got a Alcor's Sunrazor while grinding boxes for the Insane Achiev about 1/2 way on boxes was surprised as rare as it is.
评论来自
Athenia
Made a quick vid, so far I think it's the most efficient route.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVNFHV-7hDE
评论来自
60478
Atm im trying to get the Insane in the Membrane achivment.
so im doing DM north for the Steamwheedle Cartel rep.
Im Pickpocked all mobs and kill them for the key to free the goblin.
this way you get 3 parts of the grind done.
1 BB rep (and rest of the cartel)
2 Junk boxes. rep with ravenhold
3 Books (and diamonds (if your lucky)) for Shen'dralar
Happy hunting
评论来自
Thottbot
what is the skill requirement for these? has to be atleast 200
评论来自
Thottbot
Orange=250
Yellow=275
评论来自
Thottbot
Junkboxes are pickpocketed off mobs occasionally, and they usually just have money. Every so often they have vendor junk or a potion. And one time I got a heavy junkbox with a Dragonscale Band... thought it was a bug at first, now I see it's just a very rare occurence.
评论来自
Thottbot
I found an enchanting recipe in one of these, demonslaying :)
评论来自
Thottbot
I just recently went to Ravenholdt for my lvl 50 Rogue quest and had a chat with Fahrad. Seems you can turn in five of these for 'some of the finest throwing knives known to rogue kind.' Yet to turn some in though. Seems like he'll accept ones you've looted, if they have atleast one thing to be looted from them.
评论来自
Thottbot
Does turning in heavy junkboxes give rep?
if so how much?
also does anyone know anyother ways of gaining rep with ravenhold once friendly?
评论来自
Thottbot
You gain 50 rep with Ravenholt for each turn in. But you don't
gain
reputation with the Syndicate, you
loose
250 rep each time.
Syndicate and Ravenholt are enemies, remember? :)
评论来自
Thottbot
I wonder if there's anything special that happens if you get Friendly with BOTH factions.
It is possible.
From
www.wowwiki.com/Syndicate
:
"There is one possible way for rogues to become friendly with both the Syndicate and Ravenholdt, but it would very likely require hundreds of hours, and to knowledge has not been attempted. Turning in Syndicate Emblems to Ravenholdt guards doesn't lower your reputation with the Syndicate. With this in mind, one could turn in one Emblem and gain 100 Ravenholdt reputation points and be able to kill four Ravenholdt members to gain four Syndicate Reputation points without going below Neutral with Ravenholdt. In other words you would need to pickpocket 3250 Syndicate Emblems and kill 13,000 Ravenholdt NPCs."
评论来自
Thottbot
i reached exalted after a lot of farming.
too bad blizzard didint do anything with this rep.
but at least now i got blind powder forever.
good luck to you if you do this ;)
ninja says:
"real rogues are exalted with ravenholdt"
评论来自
Allakhazam
Turned orange at 250 skill for me.
评论来自
Allakhazam
takes 250 skill
评论来自
Allakhazam
Junk my ass, found a Jungle Necklace of the Wolf in one of these, damn nice reward after pickpocketing tons of these with nothing but money, potions, stopwatches, and the rare gem in them...
评论来自
Allakhazam
"Junkboxes Needed" is another "blue" ( repeatable) quest in Ravenhold Manor and needs 5 Heavy Junkboxes per turn. Ask Fahrad there.
Useless for non-rogues IMO.
Edited, Mon Sep 5 00:39:05 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Actually, now you get +50 rep with ravenholdt for turning 5 in. Has anyone gotten Honored yet?
评论来自
Allakhazam
what u guys need rep for with ravenholdt?
评论来自
Allakhazam
You basically get these from any humanoid 50+. Turn 5 of them into Ravenholdt, you get 200 so-so throwing knives and no faction increase. Not worth the effort.
评论来自
Allakhazam
anyone know what skill lvl required for picking this?
i have 236 and its still red for me.
评论来自
Allakhazam
+50 rep with Ravenholdt
-250 rep with Syndicate
评论来自
Allakhazam
What Rep is best? Ravenholdt or Syndicate.?
评论来自
Ulrikekekeka
Lockboxes and chests can be opened by rogues using the
开锁
skill learned at level 16. Your max level lockpicking skill is determined by the level of your character. The basic formula is 'char level x 5'. So, a level 16 rogue will have a max lockpicking level of 80, a 17 rogue would be 85 and so on up to a (currently) maximum of 300.
Once you have learned the lockpicking skill, you will also need a set of
潜行者工具
. You do not need to buy these, you should receive them during the 'lockpicking' quest.
Once the quest is completed, you can place the
开锁
onto your toolbar from inside your spellbook. You then click this button and then click the lockbox/chest you wish to open.
As with most levelling professions, the items you want to unlock will be colour coded with the relevant chance of gaining a level point:- The word 'locked' will be red, orange, yellow, green or grey.
Red = Skill level too low
Orange = 100% chance of gaining a skill point
Yellow = Good chance of gaining a skill point
Green = A slight chance of gaining a skill point
Grey = No chance of gaining a skill point
Lockboxes can also be opened by using a skeleton key created by blacksmiths. These are NOT to be confused with the
骷髅钥匙
which is used to open the entrance to the Scholomance instance.
The table below shows the minimum lockpicking skill level required to open each type of lockbox and which blacksmith skeleton key will open it (if possible).
Type of Lock/junk box
Lockpicking skill required
Blacksmithing key required
精制青铜宝箱
破损的垃圾箱
1
白银万能钥匙
厚重青铜宝箱
25
白银万能钥匙
铁质宝箱
结实的宝箱
破旧的垃圾箱
70
黄金万能钥匙
精铁宝箱
125
黄金万能钥匙
钢质宝箱
锁住的铁箍箱
坚固的垃圾箱
175
真银万能钥匙
强化钢质宝箱
秘银宝箱
瑟银宝箱
恒金宝箱
225
奥金万能钥匙
加固的宝箱
重垃圾箱
250
奥金万能钥匙
评论来自
Vodkanic
If you're doing the Ravenholdt rep grind and farming these out yourself, I've found the best place to do it is in BRD. The route I take requires either the key or high enough lockpicking. Enter as if you were going to do the lava skip for the MC attunement quest (opening the three doors to the left of entrance), pickpocket all the mobs in the immediate room, head up through arena spectators and then make your way over to the Bridge/Gate (pickpocketing everything along the way) and hop out the window to your right like you would doing a lava skip. From there go through the Gate and pickpocket all the mobs back towards the entrance. By the time you get back around to the start you can do another lap. Their pockets should have reset by then.
NOTE: The hounds can see stealth & The fire elementals have a fire aura that can pull you out.(Although I was doing this on a my lvl 60 alt rogue so it should be a lot more comfortable at lvl 70)
评论来自
PilsnerDk
For those looking to farm these for the sake of Ravenholdt rep, here is my recommendation.
First of all, you need a rogue. Unless you have a very, very good friend or partner with an appropriately leveled rogue, it's time to roll your own rogue alt. Rogues a great fun, particularly spellcasters should find a rogue alt really fun, as they are a sneaky melee blender with a lot of survival tricks up their sleeve. Back in Vanilla, my first alt was a rogue, and as such in Classic, my first alt (following my warlock main) was also a rogue.
In order to be able to pickpocket the Heavy Junkboxes, I recommend leveling your rogue (whether alt or main) to at least level 64.This is fairly easily achieved with a few long evenings of questing in Hellfire and Zangarmarsh, possible coupled with a few dungeon runs in Hellfire Ramparts, Slave Pens and Underbog. Doesn't take long. The reason you need above level 60 is because the mobs you will be pickpocketing are in their high 50's, and the higher level you are, the less risk you have of being caught.
As far as talents, the best is to spec into 21 into Subtley for Preparation. You will occasionally get caught by a mob when attempting to pickpocket them - I estimate about a 1-2% chance of getting caught as a lvl 64 rogue in LBRS. When you get caught, pop Vanish to escape danger, but if you also have Preparation, you can keep going and if you get caught again, pop Prep and Vanish again. Well worth it. Along the way, it is also mandatory to max out Master of Deception, Camouflage and Elusiveness for better mobility and less risk of getting caught. The rest of the talents you choose don't matter much, but I recommend going down Combat until Blade Flurry, picking up basic Combat talents along the way. If you get caught and have two mobs on you, you can pop cooldowns and kill them, but if you have 3+ mobs on you at lvl 64, you need to Vanish.
Before heading out, empty your bags of everything not strictly necessary before heading down there. You just really need a Hearthstone, some Flash Powder, perhaps some food and healing potions, Thieves' Tools and a mount.
I recommend going to LBRS for pickpocketing. LBRS is filled to the brim with mobs, all in the appropriate level range for getting Heavy Junkboxes. I estimate the chance of getting a Heavy Junkbox from a mob is about 15%, which doesn't sound like much, but there are so many mobs in LBRS it's no problem. Start at the entrance, pickpocket all mobs in the first room, then go right and pretty much continue on the trodden path until you get to final room with Overlord Wyrmthalak. Then walk back just a bit to the bridge you just crossed, drop down to the ogres (the Duskbat Drape cloak helps reduce falling damage), then drop down again to the bridge to the ogre boss, and by then the "pockets" of all the mobs will have respawned. Then you just repeat this until your bags are full. Destroy any junk, food and even Star Rubies you pickpocket along the way - it's all about the Heavy Junkboxes. Now hearthstone in a safe place to get out.
Back in town, you can then unlock all the boxes with your Pick Lock skill. Turn off autoloot, and open each one to check for any goodies. It is possible to even get epics in them - I have personally found a Teebu's Blazing Longsword in a Heavy Junkbox, believe it or not. When you've snatched all the silver and worthy items (leave just at least one junk item in each box), mail them to your main who wants the Ravenholdt rep.
Have fun with the grind! Assuming you are 11999 Honored with Ravenholdt from killing Syndicate mobs in Hillsbrad, you need to perform 294 turn-ins of the "Junkboxes Needed" quest, and with each turn-in requiring 5 Heavy Junkboxes, you need to farm 1470 Heavy Junkboxes (for a non-Human). to go from 11999 Honored to 999 Exalted. It is quite a grind, but you quickly stop worrying and love the farm. The most cumbersome part of the grind is really when your main character needs to run back and forth between Southshore or Tarren Mill over and over in order to pick up the Heavy Junkboxes from their mailbox and then run up to the Ravenholdt NPC to turn them in, again and again. But it's all part of the "achievement". :)
评论来自
Strath
The best farming location is LBRS / UBRS. If you have the UBRS key, it's a great increase to boxes per hour. Start the run by pickpocketing the entrance room of LBRS, and going into each cubby. When you head downwards to LBRS, dont forget to go to the right and clear the upper mobs past the entrance room. You can do a full clear of the instance and jump back down to where the ogre bridge is and the pickpocket tables will have reset in time, however if you have a second account I'd recommend doing a logout reset as you approach the spider boss down below. Also there's an addon called dejunk that you can use to keybind trash item deletion. I get about 130 boxes/hr using this method.
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