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评论来自
750
In BC, you no longer have to have this equipped to skin your kills and you can ditch your lowbie skinning knife.
评论来自
598
the easiest way to boost your skinning skilll to be able to skin higher level mobs. Now in the 2.0 patch this knife is counted as a skinning knife so you would not need to carry around two.
评论来自
9391
This skinning knife got a equip +10 skinning, and compared with the +5 skinning an enhancter can make on your gloves, you can skin The Beast, and if you are really luckey, you will get The Beast's hide. And that hide is something there is really many money worth :D
评论来自
8888_
One of the most contested items out there in the game. Should the Beast drop this, make sure it is going to a skinner, and make sure that they can use it. You do not want it going to someone without skinning who cannot use daggers.
评论来自
77012
There is 2 weapons in game that gives you +10 skinning. First one is this dagger, second is blue sword form ZG(
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=19901
). So, in theory, you can get +20 skinning from 2 items, which can help with skinning levelling.
评论来自
146382
I'm looking for Ray Finkle... and a clean pair of shorts!
评论来自
580
Can be put in a leatherworker's bag.
评论来自
65014
As can regular skinning knives.
评论来自
Thottbot
It takes 310 in Skinning to skin The Beast. Basically he drops that dagger so that you can skin him & have a chance to get
比斯巨兽的皮
which is 1 of the components you need for one of the following Epic items
嗜血胸甲
血色学者之帽
阿卡纳护腿
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评论来自
Thottbot
Remember, this knife will add +10 to skinning but to skin some of the epic like Oynixa, you need to have an additional +5 to skinning. So don't forget to find someone who can enchant your old gloves!
评论来自
Thottbot
The only skinning enchant is +5 to skinning, and you need 310 skinning to skin The Beast. So yes, Finkle's is a requirement to be able to skin The Beast. Been at 305 skinning for months now and still haven't seen Finkle's drop. =(
评论来自
Thottbot
If you need the +10 skinning and can equip a sword there is also the Zulian Slicer from the high priest Thekal in Zul Gurub.
44.8 dps, chance on hit 72-96 nature damage to target, +12 attack power, +10 skinning.
For classes that can not use a dagger you may want to suggest to them to go for that one.
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok now i'm just gonna get things straight.
This dagger is not for fighting because.
1. it does not have any stats or special abilities.
2. there is much better daggers out there
3. then there is the fact that ALL skinners need this, it's the only way to skin the beast (which can drop the hide for epic item quests) and it's also the only way to skin the hounds in MC.
Basicly what i want to say is that all none skinners rolling on this because it's fast, or because it's "good" dps are jerks, and proberly just ninja's.
评论来自
Thottbot
In case you rogues out there havn't noticed, this thing has really dodgy weapon stats. It's obviously not intended to be used as a weapon, and skinners should always get the higher priority to roll when this drops. 4 drops + 4 rogues = torrent of abuse and 4 people added to my ignore list. Use your head or I'll be need rolling your shadowcraft. I could use a bit more agility since the elements set doesnt give enough.
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm really surprised to see that so many people think of this dagger as anything other than a skinning tool...
评论来自
Thottbot
I won this in UBRS yesterday, (60 rogue with 300 skinning), but i was advised to not use itm over my electified dagger and life force dirk.
It doesnt matter if you are a rogue or not, skinners should get the first priority.
Atm, i just keep this in my inv waiting for another high level skinning instance.
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, I wrote a simple macro on how to switch from your normal gloves and weapon to your skinning gloves and weapon. This is useful if you need to do alot of 300+ skinning, for example if you need to skin core hounds in MC, and you need to do constant switching.
/script PickupContainerItem(4,15);
/script PickupInventoryItem(10);
/script PickupInventoryItem(16);
/script PickupContainerItem(4,16);
Ofcourse this macro will not work for you, you will need to adjust the numbers to work for your configuration.
Here's how :
*
Macro Line 1
: Change the number 4 to the number of bag your gloves are in. Your bags are counted like this : your backpack is always bag number 0, and the bag closest to your latency meter is 4. So your bags are in this order : 4 3 2 1 0. Then change the number 15 to the number of slot your skinning gloves are in that bag. Bag slots are just counted the normal way, from left to right like you were reading a book. My gloves were in the second to last slot in my bag, hence the number 15.
*
Macro Line 2
: This line doesn't need changing, it refers to the item you equip to your hands.
*
Macro Line 3
: Don't change this either, it refers to the weapon equipped in your main hand (also works for 2handed-weapons).
*
Macro Line 4
: Again, change the number 4 to the number of bag your skinning knife is in, as explained in step 1. Change the number 16 to the number of slot your knife is in that bag. In this case, 16 refers to the last (bottom right) slot of a 16-slot bag.
Additional notes
: This macro will work with Finkle's Skinner, as well as Zulian Slicer. It switches between normal weapon + normal gloves and skinning knife + skinning gloves. It will also easily handle the switch between a 2-handed weapon and your skinning knife.
评论来自
Thottbot
Since 5 points in Skinning equals 1 point in mob level, the highest level mobs you could skin without any bonuses, pre-BC, was lvl 60. Since there were a few level 62 mobs in the game, Finkle's was required to skin them.
Now post-BC, the highest level mob you can skin with this knife is level 77. But there aren't any level 77 mobs in this game, or any level 75s for that matter. So it seems there's no point in keeping this knife anymore.
评论来自
Thottbot
I put an icy on mine for kicks xD
评论来自
Allakhazam
Paladins cannot equip daggers, and yes you have to have it equipped to get the bonus. So paladin skinners are out of luck. This is a nice dagger however it is "main hand" only, which makes it IMHO useless to a rogue. Rogues want a slow main hand weapon for the attack power bonus for using slow weaps.
Why Blizzard, why make this a main hand weapon only? It would of been such a great offhand.
Edited, Mon Apr 18 19:42:27 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ok, so if i'm a paladin, i want to do ZG to get the sword?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Stop asking the same stupid question over and over.
评论来自
Allakhazam
frostwolf server. did a (mostly) guild run today on UBRS. first time in UBRS, second time kill on The Beast and it drops first time :]
very lucky drop.
but i got nothing for the rest of the run :P
评论来自
Allakhazam
There is a sword that drops in Zul'Gurub in the 1.7 patch that gives +10 to skinning. Something lots of ppl will want though.
Zulian Slicer
Main Hand - Sword
78-146 Damage Speed 2.5
(44.8 Damage per Second)
Chance on Hit: Slices the enemy for 72-96 Nature damage.
+12 Attack Power.
Skinning +10.
评论来自
Allakhazam
wow ok if anyone wants to look at Bloodthirst breastplate for rogues go ahaid
Breastplate does
Armor:?
13+Strength
20+Stamina
2% Crit Strike
1% Dodge
and this can only be obtained through the rogue quest in which u need to skin the beast for the prestine hide of the beast to be able to get this. its kinda bull*hit to have a 300 skinner saying i need this dagger i very well bet that they do, but god pass to someone who can use for a better cause then being able to get some rugged leather off a dragon?
评论来自
Allakhazam
As many have said in this thread already, if you are not a LW/Skinner, or a Skinner who can equip this dagger, you have no business rolling on this item. Rogues, there are better daggers for Damage out there. If you are a Rogue that happens to be a 300 Skinner/LW, Sure Roll need! if you are a Rogue, who is an Alch/Herbalist and you roll Need over a Skinner/LW because you want a dagger that is inferior in Dmg to most daggers you can get at lvl 55, may you be cursed...
The Dmg is low on this weapon, because people need it for the Buffs on it. Recognize that and nod your head, and smile.
Good luck to all you out there in my predicament, who have had people roll against you, when they haven't the Skinning ability, and have a Barman's shanker, at that >.<
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can this dagger take the place of the skinning knife in your inventory, or will you be required to carry both knives around to skin 61+ mobs?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Does this become obsolete with TBC ? Can we level skinning >300 anyways with TBC ?
评论来自
Allakhazam
If you can't equip daggers, do you still get the bonus? Can you replace your skinning knife with this?
评论来自
Allakhazam
The key to this dagger is in the name, "Skinner". As a previous poster noted that If you use this dagger with the glove enchant, you get 315 skinning skill. Consequently in order to loot "core Leather" you need a "gasp" 315 skill. The fack that this is a main hand only dagger isn't a blunder on Blizzards part.
评论来自
Allakhazam
so i am a 300 skinner paladin, and i got this from a very ncie group today. Any hope that I can sue this sometime in the future, maybe with a patch?
Seems kind of unfair, but I know everyone wants to nerf us ... :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
As a hunter with 300 skinning/300 DS leatherworking, I'm glad this is main hand only. The last thing I need is to finally see it drop, only to have non skinning rogues rolling on it to use as an offhand.
This is for 300 skinners. As somone before said, high end skining is made harder by NEEDING this to skin a ton of high end mobs. It should go to skinners, not to some rogue too cheap to buy a Julies Dagger for his offhand.
评论来自
Allakhazam
so the beast drops the very dagger that allows us to skin him? sad
but ok, more ubrs runs with an unskinnable beast corpse until i get this dagger then!
评论来自
Allakhazam
As stated by everyone else below, the dagger does not specify "Class: Rogue" so therefore the dagger is open to all classes. I personally am a Rogue and a skinner/leatherworker, for the rogues rolling on this dagger and don't have skinning, please give the dagger to the skinner/leatherworker. The low drop rate coupled with everyone else rolling for the dagger (including rogues) makes the end game leatherworking professions very hard. Which points me to my other issue. If you have just skinning for farming, please don't roll on this over someone with skinning/leatherworking. I know you want to make all that extra money in MC and Onxyia runs but the leatherworkers that use the stuff you skin need it too and we prefer not to pay the gouged prices. I am still waiting for this dagger to drop and win it. (I have run this instance nearly 90 times unsuccessfully, it has only dropped twice, both times going to other skinning/leatherworking characters. But I am fine with that. They won them fair and square.) If you really want to take anything out of this post, it is this. The proper order which this dagger should be rolled for is first by those with
both
skinning and leatherworking and then by those with just skinning and then by rogues. After that it's a free for all. Rogues, this may seem disappointing but there are better daggers out there.
Edited, Sun Mar 12 16:38:16 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
wow i love this thing alright dps then again my main hand weopon sucked, im a lvl 60 hunter wid 300 skinning, won it on a role of 10! lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
do any other items give a plus to skinning that might be a little easier to get?
评论来自
Allakhazam
you have to equip it to get the bonus and no this cannot replace your skinning knife since ths is not a powered skinning knife
评论来自
Allakhazam
The reason a rogue would get angry at a hunter for rolling on this, would be the fact that without it you can't complete the rogue epic quest ...
嗜血胸甲
评论来自
Allakhazam
WOW am I glad someone else got that reference....
Finkle and Einhorn, Einhorn and Finkle....
I love that freakin movie!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm pretty sure there's no class that cannot equip daggers,
And you have to have it equipped to get the skinning bonus, so it only replaces your skinning knife if you equip it every time.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well, you guys don't have to be worrying about me rolling on this Knife (if you're on Uther), cause I am a Miner/Engineerer. And, I use Polearms and Dual Wield Axes.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This knife and a +5 Skinning Enchant to gloves can max 315. Interesting.
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Edited, Fri May 13 17:06:07 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this on either my second or third visit to UBRS, only skinners were allowed to roll, much to one rogue's annoyance. Coincidentally enough, I was planning to give up skinning as it goes but now I'm my guild's No.1 skinner! Hopefully, I'll be able to get a Pristine Hide of the Beast with it soon...
评论来自
Allakhazam
About 2 nights ago this dropped finally after about 20+ runs and was consquently ninjaed by a complete tool of a dwarf hunter named Wiege who cheerfully informed us after rolling need on the skinner with all the 300 skinners in the party, and winning the roll with 99, that in fact, his skinning was level 0 and he had zero intent to raise it. Then laughed at us and was promptly kicked from the group to a chorus of angry, angry skinners. F**king a**hole.
Next day, another UBRS run with the guild and a few pick-ups this time, but I'm not expecting to see it drop twice in a row - i went about 20 times before it even dropped once, after all.. we get to the beast and down him -- and what drops? Finkles! And I guess luck was on my side, because I not only saw it drop twice in a row, but won the roll with a 69 and beat out 3 nonguild skinners - but I am beyond psyched to have this new toy.
评论来自
Allakhazam
k i'm a hunter with 300 skinning amd some close to 300 for leatherworking... i rolled on this dagger b/c it was an upgrade and i'm Skin/LW... i got booted from the group is there something that i missed about this dagger? The rouge in my group (which can't wear mail) was skinning all the dragons scales (which im in the middle of doing my dragonscale LW quest) and got mad at me and booted me for rolling on the dagger... was i wrong to roll on it (i won it btw)
side note
I <3 Jim Carry hehe
评论来自
Allakhazam
you need 315 skinning to skin mobs like azuregos and other elite boss mobs that can be skinned,s o you need this dagger and the plus 5 enchant
评论来自
Allakhazam
after tons of UBRS runs i finally got this dagger =D lucky me!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Nice Ace Ventura reference!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it at my 20'ish run.. As a rogue(with skinning) i still cant figure out why this is hated so much as a weapon...
Edited, Tue Feb 21 18:55:50 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
players capped at 10 not 15
评论来自
Allakhazam
edit: double post
Edited, Mon Jun 19 21:25:16 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
This would be great if it was offhand = P But I agree, as for mainhand, it isn't very useful.
Edited, Wed Jul 27 15:23:03 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
1 thing that anoyes me big time are rogues "needing" this dagger for their epic quest...
as far as i know is that the Pristine Hide of the Beast is not BoP, therefor they do NOT need the dagger to skin the beast... the item can be given away when skinned through a roll of needers(usually the case)... if not needed then a roll of skinners who can skin it(310+ skinners) following to that are the greedy ppl.
being a skinner 305 now, i know what a pain in the ass it can be to get to skinning 315, for that reason only, the price should be the higher priority of roll over the PHotB than the greedy ppl. i can realy relate to that.
but me, being nice and all and "serving the community" when i am the only 310+ skinner in raid, i would roll with others just so i wouldnt look like a complete a**hole... afterall, community rep count more that gold, imo... if only more ppl would think that and wow would be a better community than it already is ;P
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just caught the Feralas Ahi at 62, 52 it took 40 casts
评论来自
NotAWoWAcctAdmin
It's very rare to see someone with it. Seems it's much less than that 13%.
评论来自
Bobba90
This dagger have changed its name to Pip's Skinner, I wonder why.
评论来自
discodoni
Used to be "Finkle's Skinner", now "Pip's Skinner". Changed during a period of a lot of changed item and NPC names.
评论来自
kishery
Does not work as a Skinning Knife, contrary to the flavour text.
评论来自
waynegretzky
it literally says in the item " also serves as a skinning knife"
but we cant use it to skin. why
评论来自
makujah
Finkle's Skinner. It's called Finkle's Skinner. I don't care.
评论来自
Lochmodan
"Also serves as a skinning knife." It's lying, keep your skinning knife. We couldn't skin Onyxia because I sold my skinning knife for space thinking this would serve as one.
评论来自
knowssomestuff
This is a decent pre-raid dagger for Muti Rogues in Classic SOD even if doesn't have the stats. It has a good speed and DPS. One fault I did find though, is it breaks pretty quickly after one or 2 deaths. So when going raiding and if the raid doesn't have sufficient repair bots, bring a spare weapon!
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