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评论来自
604
If anyone happens to know, how often does this weapon proc?
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评论来自
11863
My warrior used to have it. It procs about 1 every 5 minutes. In my opinion, I wouldn't suggest even bothering with it. Sorry.
评论来自
46064
Say you're an agility - enhancement shaman throwing windfuries and flurries. Basically a shaman swings waiting for the "iwin" effect. (windfury/ crit windfury)
The proc is another "iwin" effect. Crusader would be a third "iwin" effect. With three such effects it gets exciting to swing; for pure fun this is an interesting and effective weapon for that dreary final grind into BC.
i agree with selefi below, DW is better on a shaman. I enjoyed this on my paladin though in the low 50's; It's better than the epic sword (forgot it's name).
评论来自
56671
i'm a mace spec arms warrior and each time i engage in pvp combat i always equip this mace , mace stun proccs more and this weapon procced 3 times for me in one fight
评论来自
kauski
this is really auto win weapon when hits spec, very good in pvp.
评论来自
104553
this is very good for a pally with seal of crusader easier to get a proc :)
评论来自
11715
... yet this is one of the slowest 2 handers a WARRIOR can grab at this lv.
It means it's a great PvE weapon now that Slam doenst' take spell puchback anymore. Huge slams for fast kills.
It's not too shabby for PvP either - it delivers some pretty solid Mortal Strikes. And if it HAPPENS to proc you won.
It's a pity it's not an axe or sword, the specs are better for a pure grinding weapon...
edit: Typo
评论来自
99562
Although the proc rate on this is infact, horrendous, a war with mace spec could make great use from this weapon, the spec could grant smaller stuns, with the inevitable (and eventual) grand 8 second stun from DI pulverizer, plus i imagine the speed is GREAT for MS
评论来自
125086
This is a great weapon for a lv50 paladin... the slow speed and high damage make for huge
Crusader Strike
and
Seal of Command
hits.
评论来自
168328
yes, great dmg and also a chance tu stun, so u have another source of stunning/incapacitating (HoJ, repentance) for dealing a nice judgement dmg with seal of command. dunno if it worths the gold and runs to brd that it demands
评论来自
liquidsnakeblue
I'm just thinking... with the new warrior talent tree.... this.... duel wielding....its madness muhahaha!
评论来自
235765
dose the proc increase when you gain lvls? i mean is this wep got bigger proc on 70?
评论来自
Nerobyrne
If you dual-wield this weapon with the new warrior-talent, will the proc rate double or does the game keep it the same to retain the balance of weapons like this?
评论来自
Thottbot
Let's see if I can handle all of the various bits of nonsense from prior posts, dispel them for you, and give you facts (or common sense where I have none) to help you:
1 - Spirit has nothing to do with the rate of a weapon proc. Put that stupid rumor to rest.
2 - This weapon's proc is an 8-second stun. Use common sense... if the weapon didn't have a very rare proc % then it would be unbalanced: 8 seconds is a LONG amount of time in WoW fights. I have now used it for a few outings and haven't seen it proc yet. I am not disappointed yet -- I expected it to be rare. My Warrior is a Mace master anyway, so I expect that some of the stuns which occur toward the end of a fight will be unrecognizable. When I see a stun at the start of a fight which keeps going and going... I'll know it proc'd. :)
As a poster above indicated, use this weapon because it has good numbers, as well as to impress everyone with a rarely-obtained weapon, not to mention that awesome-to-read "chance on hit: 8 second stun" blurb. Even if you know it's rare, don't tell anyone... people will think you rule.
3 - Miners can obtain Dark Iron Ore from Blackrock Depths (BRD) and now the Burning Steppes finally. Also, no matter what your professions, you will occasionally get a Dark Iron Ore drop from a mob in BRD.
4 - How to smelt: You must first learn HOW to smelt. Then you can go to the Dark Forge and smelt your bars (8 ore per 1 bar). To do either or both, you must go very far into BRD. I wull assume that you haven't learned how to Smelt Dark Iron yet. Before you go to BRD, put 2 Star Rubies, 10 Truesilver Bars, and 20 Gold in your inventory. I don't think you can learn how if you are in a raid though I could be wrong on that. Also I strongly suggest that you have the Shadowforge Key, because if not, then your only alternative is to make sure you have friends who are willing to go with you and take a lot of their time just for you and your stupid Dark Iron stuff :P
A ghosty Dark Iron Dwarf named Gloom'rel is where you learn to smelt the stuff. To get to him, go first to the Shadowforge lock and extend the bridge, head up the ramp, to the left and across the bridge, then follow the hallway as it snakes a little, and take your first right down the ramp to the room with all the through the area with all the patrolling gnomes with guns and the golems. Lord Argelmach is there, but you don't have to kill him. Actually, just kill the patrolling gnomes and head down the hall until you are about to enter the room with Argelmach, and look right. You will see a bridge guarded by Fireguard Destroyers. Hug that wall. Kill the Fireguards (make sure your fire resist is good!) and you can cross the bridge... once you kill 3 more. Past them is the Grim Guzzler, a bar filled with yellow NPCs. Buy Dark Iron Ales for Private Rocknot on the 2nd level of the bar. Give him enough and he will go break the kegs. That angers the Golem that's sitting there twitching in the far corner, who then turns red, breaks the back door, and then stands in the doorway ready to fight. Fight the Golem but avoid ANY damage/effects (AoE, Cleave, Whirlwind, shouts, etc) to the patrons nearby or the WHOLE BAR will aggro on you. After that, continue staying to the left, fighting all the mobs that present a threat and at last you'll make it to the chamber with the 7 Ghosts.
Talk to Gloom'rel first! If you talk to Doom'rel before learning to Smelt Dark Iron you will have to fight and kill Gloom'rel. Talk to Gloom'rel and he says he needs the Star Rubies, Truesilver, and the Gold. Drop those in the bowl thing next to him and then talk to him again. You now know how to Smelt the Dark Iron Ore. Talk to Doom'rel now because you have to get past this room. The 7 Dwarf Ghosts will come one at a time to fight you. Deal with them, loot the chest that appears, and then continue out of the room and down the ramp (or go to the Lyceum but that's where the Emperor is so if you are short on time don't bother).
You will see 3 Fireguards again, guarding a bridge. Beyond them are 3 more Fireguards and the entrance to the Molten Core raid instance. You need only kill those first 3 Fireguards. Then notice the metal path built over the lavafall on the left. Kill that one last Fireguard. Smelt the Dark Iron Ore at the Dark Forge.
5 - How to make the Pulverizer: Like other Dark Iron plans, the Pulverizer can only be created on the Dark Anvil. If you are going to smelt in the same trip as make something (recommended), it's easy from there. Simply go to the back door of the Grim Guzzler and look down. Lord Incendius is guarding the Dark Anvil. Step to the edge and you will see a flaring hallway with 6 Fireguards arranged in 3 sets of 2. Drop down as a group and fight 2 Fireguards at a time (attack one and they both aggro). Clear out the hallway, then pull Lord Incendius to the hallway, because if you fight him around the Dark Anvil he will occasionally "toss" you, which will send you plummeting down into the lava from which there is no getting out of. Kill him, and make your Pulverizer and/or whatever other Dark Iron stuff you came to make.
评论来自
Thottbot
I am on my very first character ever in WoW. (it came free with my computer). As soon as I saw the schematics for this weapon, my goal in life became to get one. I have worked extremely hard to level my blacksmithing skill up to 265 in order to be able to make this weapon alone. I set all of my talent points towards having this weapon. I am now close to level 50, and I realize there is no chance for me to be able to ever get one of these without having at least 200++ gold to spend on it, or leveling to 60 and spending a solid month on trying to become able to smelt/use dark iron ore.
Then of course I come to find that the 8 second stun has a less than 1% chance to work. What a terrible disappointment. Getting a dark iron pulverizer is actually more difficult than getting an unstoppable force.... and of course you must consider the fact that the dark iron pulverizer kind of sucks in comparrison to what a level 60 could be using(and you will definitely be level 60 before you can actually create this weapon)
Don't waste your time
评论来自
Thottbot
The increase in the level cap means that within the near future, all non-stealthers will be able to reliably solo BRD. Dark Iron gear, especially the fairly good items such as this hammer (BE pallies anyone?) might actually become more common as players look to equip guildies and alts with gear that previously would have been difficult to acquire.
评论来自
Thottbot
you dont have to be a level 60 to make this weapon, i made my first dark iron pulverizer when i was lvl 53 pally. just takes a good group, and definetly a good priest, and lets not forget the shadowforge key, which i also obtained at lvl 53. unfortunately, i never used it, i sold it for 225 gold on hydraxis realm. its really easy to make it, all you gotta do is buy the mats, which dont cost 200 gold, last i seen, i saw 4 heart of fires in ah for about 1g a piece, and stack of dark iron bars for 31g buyout, thats 35gold for the mats to make this weapon, now you just need to get a decent group to get to the dark anvil,which you will be needing the key to go the fast way to the anvil. on my server, dark iron bars are really cheap, because its so hard to make the items that that need them, so its practically useless to most blacksmiths. but, to learn to smelt the stuff, you will definetly need to be a bit of a higher level. but why not let someone do it for you until you reach lvl 60, its cheaper. last thing, the reason why i sold it is because i already had an epid 1h sword(krol blade) and an epic shield(wall of the dead), so i pretty much gave up on 2h weapons, because of the lack of stats that most dont have at lvl 40-50ish. but i still wanna try this mace anyways, the 8 second stun is awesome, a pally could completely heal himself, or cause more damage in 8 seconds. plus he could also stun for an additional few more seconds witha stun spell that pallies have.
评论来自
Thottbot
I was in SW and someone was trying to sell Dark Iron Pulverizer on trade channel. I wanted it, but I figured they were asking some ridiculous amount of money, seeing as how my server's (Whisperwind) economy isnt that great. I checked on the AH a few hours later for another weapon and came upon this for a 35g buyout. I bought it out immediately, not even knowing the amount of work and money it takes to make this. After reading the messages in this thread, I know I got a hell of a deal.
Anyways, this thing kicks ass. The proc is rare, but when it does hit, it's almost unfair. Fun for PvP.
评论来自
Thottbot
Got My 144 DI ore & Heart of Fire, Just need to get into BRD, learn to smelt the stuff & make the blasted thing.
I'm a 55 MS Warrior & not sure whether I'll equip it & just keep it close to hand for a bit of fun now & again, or sell it for like 200g. Guess I'll decide when the time comes.
It's not too hard to get the DI ore. I spent a day in Searing Gorge & Burning Steppes & farmed 87. (plus a vast amount of Thorium, Mithril & Truesilver)
Bought the other 60 DI ore in AH at 6g a stack. sweet.
评论来自
Thottbot
Looks amazing when you put icey enchant on it but then again it looks good with any enchant. By personal preference i would put icey on it because it falls under the whole anti CC thing with paladins and warriors. Now im not saying this mace is a for certain classes but it seems useless on a druid and not as needed on a warrior as a paladin. Only for terms of the fact that paladins dont have a charge or intercept and paladins however do. But reguardless its a crafted weapon so < insert class name here > doesnt matter. :D
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm liking this weapon, it not only has a large high end damage, but it's slow, and has a nice stun on it. Great for a Pally. I'm getting around 1 proc every 8 guys, which is not bad for an 8 second proc.
评论来自
Thottbot
Bought this for my shammy for 20g since i had no desire to farm ore in brd with my main. I know there are better maces when i hit outlands but i got it for lvl mace skill use and the joy of hitting ppl on the head with a big mace in bg.
Have to keep up the skill until i can craft the earthforged ( or whats its called ) mace for him. He got the craftskill but alas, when i write this, 10 more lvls to go.
To sum it up. Fun mace if u can find it cheap ( or craft urself ) for you pre tbc toon.
Regards
评论来自
Thottbot
Dont now if this matters Ive had this mace from lvl 50 to 55 so far and used it off and on. I didnt see it PROC till my 2H mace silll hit 265, now it PROCS often.
评论来自
Thottbot
Should also be pointed that the proc has diminishing returns in PvE too. f/e after a charge, it's always only 6 second stun, same after a mace stun/intercept or w/e stuns you come across till a 0 sec stun ---
For me personally, i love to ''sap'' ppl/mobs and still whack the crap out of them. The proc rate rly isn't as bad as ppl are telling. its
HUGE
.
评论来自
Thottbot
this is the weapon used by Thrall in Tales of the Past.
ofc it's not the one he uses in reality but it's similar. and for your information I'm used it for fun on my lvl 70 and the proc chance is about 1 in every 61 hits (used addon to get the result)
so I would say, get it for looks and slam a greater beastslaying on it. it looks really cool then.
but in this lvl you should go for Sul'Thraze the Lasher if you want something pwning AND rare. getting Sul'Thraze is really hard you see and sure Ice Barbed Spear is good but Sul'thraze is more imba to have because you have to go Zul'Farrak about 10-20 times to get the 2 swords you need to get Sul'thraze.
Urgaal, Rayla, Elementos (horde on Hellfire realm)
Zoan (alliance on Balnazzar realm)
评论来自
Allakhazam
It takes 8 dark iron ore to make 1 dark iron bar
The forge is off to the left just before the bridge at the MC portal inside BRD.
You need to learn Smelt Dark Iron ore from the NPC in the room with the chest of the seven, it takes 2 star ruby, 20 gold bar, and 10 truesilver bar to learn to smelt dark iron ore.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just recently had this mace made for my level 50 warrior.... Its a damn good mace regardless the proc rate, because its so slow, and has 211 base end damage, its gonna %^&* up your oponent regardless the proc. I mean, alot of ppl get this mace because of its proc, and i agree, the proc rate is extremely low, but its still a great weapon to !@#$ up ur enemy with. Level 50 warrior crits 1000 white damage with it...yea...
评论来自
Allakhazam
I was told the proc is really low but if it does, it's instant win against your opponent.
评论来自
Allakhazam
here is a picture of it, i wasted 18 dark iron bars (144 dark iron ores) and 4 heart of fire.
http://gorillamask.acedup.com/pulverizer.jpg
Edited, Mon Jun 6 09:08:15 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have this piece of junk. It literally procs at .1%, just doesn't happen, even with windfury going and flurry and berzerking at every cooldown. And then when it procs, you're holding a 48 DPS weapon.
Do not make this.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Does anyone have this? 8 second stun proc sounds so deadly, especially for a Shaman using windfury.
评论来自
Allakhazam
What class is your guildie Darkeggy?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I can make this on Eldre'Thalas. Contact Drast in-game. You must provide mats.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I made one for a warrior in my guild yesterday, he seems quite happy with it. The hard part of course is getting all that Dark Iron. You don't have to be a hammersmith, just a weaponsmith.
Oh, and it basically looks like someone took a big brick of Dark Iron and attached a handle to it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
geez, im a pally n would love to have it, 8 second stun is enough to heal me and my party member, and it would sure proc a lot more often eith the SoC thas for sure....
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone know the proc rate?
评论来自
Allakhazam
This Hammer blows so bad 47 dps omg i have seen 1 handed with more then that this is no wheres worth 144 dark iron ore.....
Edited, Tue Aug 30 13:00:21 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is there anyone who's used this that can give us an idea of how often it procs? I'm thinking of using this in Moonkin form. It'd be nice in parties (for obvious reasons) and great for soloing - eight seconds is enough for nearly three uninterrupted Starfires.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is where fury builds come in. With the reduction they made to the health cost of bloodrage, and fury builds having a reduction of cooldown time to slam, this can be a very deadly weapon. It does enough damage to do slam right after a hit, providing the enemy is attacking u. It goes like this: Howl, run, intercept, melee, slam, slam, melee. There are lots of chances to proc in those four attacks, because proc chances are increased the slower the weapon is. Plus, dont worry about hte rage cost, I see a lot of players ending a duel with over 60 rage points. In conclusion, definately a warrior weapon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is there any pictures of this sweet mace?
This one should be lovely with a counterweight and seal of crusader *drool* :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
I can make the Dark Iron Pulverizer on Azjol-Nerub. I am willing to make for Horde and Alliance. Message Rakorr (for alliance email cyrusmacsen@yahoo.com).
Edited, Sun Jan 22 04:05:27 2006
评论来自
Allakhazam
One of my guildies has this hammer. He doesn't recommend making another one : /
The proc is rather low(2-3% maybe), and with the 3.7 speed its extremely hard to get a proc off.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This Hammer blows so bad 47 dps omg i have seen 1 handed with more then that this is no wheres worth 144 dark iron ore.....
Edited, Tue Aug 30 12:44:55 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pulverizer3mc.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
Oh Crap thats terrible my freind is making me this and it is jsut sweet! oh and I got 20 dakr iron ore for 2 gold
^_^
I am the luckiest shaman in teh whole owrld I have 4 whelps 3 of em sold for a total of 120g who yea! now I have mount well got mount at 40
________________________________________________________________________________
Kahgan 46 orc shaman
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am an armorsmith and still was able to learn the plans for this weapon and make it. It is a perfect weapon for a Retribution Paladin. The 3.70 speed means that Seal of Command procs something like 45% of your swings with this weapon, and it does more DPS than the Rockpounder. If the 8-sec stun manages to proc, it is pretty much an IWIN situation. That 8-sec stun does not proc very often, but it still is awesome when it does.
I bought the plans on the AH for about 11G, bought 20 dark iron bars for 25G, and bought 4 hearts of fire for 12G. So, in total, it cost me 48G for the plans and the mats. And AGAIN, I was able to learn this and make it even tho i am an ARMORSMITH, so you do not need to be a weaponsmith or hammersmith to do it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
How do you find the Dark Anvil. When you enter BRD, what are the turn by turn direction to finding it.
评论来自
Riketta
Actual
WoW Classic test
. Hours of offline before it. So no attacks with this weapon was done for a long time before test.
I used script to track timestamps of stun procs, so time offsets exact.
One combat fight on "training dummy" with around half an hour length.
Time in seconds. "+" means offset from previous timestamp.
Combat log:
0. Combat started.
234. First proc.
+144. Proc.
+728. Proc.
+15. Proc.
+14. Proc.
+62. Proc.
+76. Proc.
+222. Proc.
+306. Proc.
+122. Proc.
+0. Combat ended.
So as you can see there is no any patterns that can allow you to abuse this weapon. Just $%^&ty RNG weapon.
Don't waste your gold!
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