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评论来自
3999
Very Low drop rate. This armor is not really worth the work considering how quickly it will be before you start replacing parts of your armor (and once youve replaced one you lose the 10 attack power which is the only real reason you need this set)
评论来自
Jel251
Its very worth it, huge stam buff for twinks.
评论来自
32
This piece of leather is very desirable by 19 twinks. It does have a low drop chance, and so, you might have a little trouble getting it. but as Jel said, it's well worth it!
评论来自
7700
Best armor for a rogue, hunter, warrior, and feral druid for the lvl 10-19 battleground bracket. Great twink gear.
评论来自
8701
This is one of the pieces of the Defias Armor Set. I recieved this drop from Edwin VanCleef, and it was done on my first try on my Druid character, who was a level 19 at the time. This armor set is pretty good looking when put together. It's BoP, or 'Bind On Pickup', which means it binds to you and you cannot sell it on the Auction House. There are some Defias Armor pieces that you can sell on the Auction House.
评论来自
netherbane
In all honesty I believe this SET was designed for rogues. I'm talking about the boots, belt, leggings and gloves. The thing is this set becomes quickly outdated within a few levels. So just looking at the CHEST PEICE Blackened Defias Armor is really the only thing in the entire set that is better than any other leather chest peice out there til level 30.
The main stat on this chestpeice is +11 Stamina. Since a rogues main stat is AGILITY, it really isn't fair to say this chest peice is for ROGUES. Stamina is a universal stat, it's for EVERYONE. Yeah it has 3 agility... BIG WHOOP! The quest reward from this same quest (Tunic of Westfall) has 11 agility. Sure it doesn't look all black and cool like the defias, but if you want more agility then get Tunic of Westfall.
The other thing this chest has is a few strength points. This is also another reason why it isn't fair to say this chest piece is for rogues since agility does everything strength does and more for a rogue. Tunic of Westfall will give you more damage (but less HP).
This chest peice most benefits feral druids since they can use the extra strength more than rogues. OF course anyone who can wear leather should get this chest peice if they can (even warriors, pallies... and yes even hunters). The stamina is just too good. Plus hunters, druids and warriors need agility too.
If this drops in your VC group and you can wear leather, ROLL ON IT. Anyone who gets this entire set for their rogues is wasting some time.
评论来自
9509
The defias leather is an interesting set. It's abilities correspond almost directly with the rouges. When an alliance member runs deadmines, he should only do it once or twice, because the pieces arn't worth it. I love the defias armor, I personally got 3 pieces, but it is not worth it to run through 5 or so times for a non-rouge class (druid,warrior,shaman...), If you get All the peices... good job! But don't waste your "valuable" WoW time on the deadmines.
评论来自
thebrassthief
I recently picked this up for my Druid. Awesome for me since I spend a lot of my time in Deadmines tanking.
评论来自
27744
Very good chest for twink rogues. I have one myself and I was extremely lucky to get it. I got it the very first time I went through VC. I have this with a +100hp enchant. Good luck getting one. ;)
评论来自
29141
Blackened Defias Armor is the best twink chest for all who can use leather!
评论来自
34510
If you're making a horde twink and can't get this (due to being lazy or bad luck getting it drop), I'd recommend getting this:
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=5317
It's a few easy quests (especially if you get some help), and the reward isn't bad at all for a lvl 19 twink.
评论来自
badget
The full Blackened Defias set looks real cool
评论来自
31452
I would like to know what shoulders are being worn in this picture. I will look and see if i can find out. But if someone knows, pls lmk.
评论来自
Slagg
Here is the shoulders of the pic:
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/spell=3768
评论来自
42722
I like these better b/c it has more stam
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=10657
and also the shoudlers you linked are lvl 21
评论来自
61930
this is also great for paladins not for the armor, but the stats r wats great about it
评论来自
62071
This is a awesome chest gear for a rogue at lvl 19, but don't forget the reward you get for turning in this quest
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/quest=166
, should think about
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=2041
. Even though Blackened Defias armor is better.
评论来自
wootang
good for any leather wearing class...even if your not a twink you should get some good use out of this
评论来自
59139
rogues, hunters, druids should get the tunic of westfall, a warrior/ pally should get this and the pants of westfall, i myself on my successful warrior twink have this and pants of westfall and a few other blues/ twink items
评论来自
70000
What is the drop % of this item because it has never ever dropped for me and as of mostly everyone who plays WoW I have ran DM ALOT
评论来自
81639
This chestpiece is indeed a very good one. It has served me well since I started using it at lvl 19 on my hunter alt. Once I got it, I simply put a very cheap enchant, +50 hp on it and I still use this one at lvl 36. With this cheap and easy-to-get enchant this chestpiece only lacks 25 armor compared to the Raptor Hunter Tunic (
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=4119#comments
). WHICH you wont get until lvl 40 or so. So stick with it if you get it.
评论来自
Corbon
As being said before, for Alliance Rogues and Hunters, Tunic of Westfall is the better choice, since Agi scales tremendously at this level. Warriors on the other hand should aim for this piece insteaf of a green mail which has about +80 AC. Same goes for Ferals and Palas though their abilities as a DPS class are very limited. Both classes are better at healing.
评论来自
Xavion
This is a good twink gear if you want a lot of stamina but otherwise, if you want more agility go for Tunic of Westfall
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=2041
Good Luck on your road to becoming a TWINK!!!!
(P.S. Rumors has said battlegrounds will give xp after the match from a new patch! Extinction of twinks is near..Make you decision wisely making a twink.)
评论来自
77326
its not the best for 19 rogue twinks, the second best, for a really good twink, you want the tunic of west fall, the sentry cloak, shoulders just any with high armor, feet of the lynx, dark leather leggings or something like that cant remember the rest, but although this set is nice for a rogue twink, you can find much better if your willing to do some looking
评论来自
91092
this can be used for all sorts of twink not just rouges so if ur to lazy to get the Tunic of Westfall this is the way to go....lots off good twink stuff drops in Deadmines
评论来自
slapjack
actually all parts except this one can be sold in the AH xD
评论来自
96306
sweet screenshot and if u have a wep or armor that got updated, will u still have the old version or will it automaticly change to new version?
评论来自
60672
The item itself does not recieve any changes as of 2.3 (identical stats and armor and everything) however what does change is the Set bonus recieved from wearing 4 peices of the defias set (changing weapon skills to expertise rating in 2.3).
评论来自
95607
actually for the Horde: DRY MOSS TUNIC with +8 sta and +2 agi is about the best i've seen stamina wise, until the fang chest piece gets updated
评论来自
119880
How would this chest be for a lvl 29 twink shaman?
评论来自
vanleeuwenhoek
Another added benefit to the 3-piece set bonus is the +5 arcane resistance, which increases your ability to resist mage sheeps. Combine that with a shadow resist enchant to cloak to give yourself a slight edge resisting the two more common battleground CCs: sheep and fear.
评论来自
142095
i have ran my brother through this about 12 times and every time it has dropped. lol any1 wanna go 4 a dm run:)
评论来自
133481
Finally got it on my twentythird round. t.t
评论来自
143655
This is a reall good twink item just look at the stam good for all classes as can use it.. :D.
评论来自
133035
Blackened Defias Armor:
92 Armor Leather
+4 Strength
+3 Agility
+11 Stamina
Level 19
Defias Leather (0/5)
Guys, I HIGHLY Recommend this for any leather wearing twink, (Rogue, Shaman, Druid) even mail wearing,(Paladin, Warrior) obviouisly for the 19 bracket. This being a very nice piece of armor, with it's stats and being part of a set, is handy, Although i do not recommend getting the full set, for 1. it's not all that great, pretty much only the chest is 2. It would either take an awful lot of money or an awful lot amount of time. Here's a reason 1. It looks pretty fashionable (for a rogue) if ya know what i'm sayin'. Tis' your choice, I'd like to see a few more twinks on the Horde side, alliance just whips our @$$ sometimes. Hope this Helped :)
评论来自
thiller
To me it is a rip off because i ran the deadmines and i did not get any defias leather
评论来自
133035
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=2041
Tunic of Westfall
https://www.cuckhead.com/wotlk/item=10399
Blackened Defias Armor
See for yourself that indeed, Blackened Defias Armor IS better than Tunic of Westfall. I also don't see why alliance is complaining, Blackened Defias Armor is WAY easier for them to get than it is horde.
评论来自
138510
Can anyone tell me if the drop rate on this has been changed at all...
I currently have in my twinks inventory
8* cruel barb
9* corsair overshirt
7* cape of the brotherhood.
but 0 blackened defias armor.
Running deadmines is quite tiring and I'm not alliance so i cant settle for the tunic of westfall.
Ive had a 61 hunter running me if that makes a difference.
I understand that the rule with this sort of thing is that missing out on the last drop doesnt increase your chance to get the next one, but 24 runs and no 16% drop item? Am I just super unlucky?
EDIT: I just got it. Took 30+ runs though. Hope you have better luck than I had.
评论来自
Sterio
This is really one of the best twink chest in the game! Fairly easy to get (but the droprate is quite low)
just have some high level to boost you in DM.
评论来自
133035
By far 'One of the Best' Twink item's in the 19 bracket.
评论来自
133035
Total Attributes:
+4 Strength
+3 Agility
+11 Stamina
4 Strength will give you 8 AP (AP=Attack Power)
3 Agility will give you the following:
1% + Dodge
1% + Critical Strike Rating
6 + Armor - 2 Armor per Agility
11 Stamina = 110 HP (HP=Health Points)
10 HP per 1 Stamina
评论来自
171131
short sweet and too the point KICKS ASS for the level 19 twink bracket of course
评论来自
181627
Agh why does the screenshot have to be a naked troll?
评论来自
176866
best was to farm this is to have a high level friend clear the whole instance up to van cleef then you run in up to van cleef and roll on the item.
happy farming =D
评论来自
176866
ran deadmines 2 times today on the first run i got cruel barb and on the second run i got this i'd say im prettty lucky wouldn't you?
评论来自
141352
Vert good for twinks. If you enchant it with 100hp it gives 210hp :P(##RESPBREAK##)2572##DELIM##MasterOfDisguise##DELIM##
评论来自
239005
well Blackened defias armor is good for hunters to.
(tunic of the westfall to)
评论来自
239005
Shud ur pally have 2 fang armors?
评论来自
213817
ABout how mnay runs do u need to do in order to get this because im on my 3rd and it hasnt dropped in 1st 2 yet
评论来自
Toprock
25 runs later and this chest piece still hasn't dropped. I'm not sure 16% is really an accurate droprate percentage.
评论来自
Anallogy
i have this armour and i love it. i still wear it even at lv32, because i cant find anything better in the AH, and coz i havent gotten any drops/rewards better :) apart from being awsum for leather wearers and twinks of its lv bracket, it owns look wise also, imo
评论来自
243044
This will last you until lvl 30 ish, cos as far as I remember the nesingway quests in Stranglethorn vale give you one which is superior. anway, great chest armour espcially for blood elf hunters who have very little health. My lvl 23 blood elf hunter has 810 health.
评论来自
308887
I find that this is the best piece of this set. I see some people with all of the items equipped in wsg sometimes but i think parts of this set aren't good at all.
评论来自
321392
tbh i think a warrior and pallys shud get armor of th fang why becos it has 4 more str and 3 less stam and just put 100hp on it so i wud consider this a rouge and hunter item and druid whatever
评论来自
301506
warrior Don't forget Paladins
and any non-cloth wearing class
Far from right you guys.....warriors and pallys dont wear leather...they wear mail a warrior or paladin using this is an idiot even tho its good leather wearer gear mail has better choices for mail wearers.
评论来自
silentfilmstar
Ok so your twink is what lvl? bc the cape of brotherhood is lvl 20.
评论来自
179785
If you dont care about the set's AP buff the Embrace of the Viper from Wailing Caverns is a very nice set as well due to the massive amount of stats on the gear.
评论来自
365856
By far the best of the chest pieces available for the 19 bracket. Since there isn't really any good mail chest pieces at this lvl, or at least none with comparable amounts of stamina, it wouldn't be suprising for a pally twink or warrior twink to be wearing this.
评论来自
333107
this is a very good twink chest piece for melee classes
1 strength=2 attack power so since it gives 4 strength its 8 attack power
and 110 stamina because 1 stamina is 10 health and 10x11 110 and one agility gives 1 attack power,crit
and some dodge so its all together 11 attack power 110 health and some crit and dodge
评论来自
CrittinRogue
W00t, i finally got my account created, btw, nice stamina buff on the chest, apply +50 health to PWNT n00bz!
评论来自
401253
I haven't actually tried this but it should definately work. If you're a lvl 19 twink and you're kinda close to lvling and need this, don't worry! Get a high lvl buddy to run you through (preferably one that can rez) and clear everything till VanCleef, DO NOT BE WITH THEM AS THEY DO THIS, or you get exp and that isn't very good! Now, let your buddy go far away, and you run into VanCleef and let him murder you. Don't fight back, just die and don't release. Now, let your buddy come kill VanCleef then you come back (remember, do not let your buddy loot, and be quick so the corpse doesn't despawn! Unless you can be rezzed). You shouldn't have any exp at all, AND you get a chance at the armor! Huzzah!
评论来自
446016
this is absolutely tha best! i lov the stam, still tryin to get this on my warrior twink. but i need help... shuld i get +4 all stats on it, or 100hp
评论来自
381360
This wholes set+eye patch+Mekgineer's chopper=Win
评论来自
Anallogy
A very good chest for both rogues and feral druids. This chest will last a long time.
评论来自
570891
this is made for rogues shamans and druids should go to wailing caverns for the embrace of the viper set wicth adds nature damage
评论来自
362245
I like how it has built-in abs.
Guess VanCleef isn't that muscular after all.
评论来自
jirihood
? Where is this armor? I looked for him 2x in this dungedon
评论来自
Thottbot
Here is a picture of my rogue in the full set. He is wearing the Cape of the Brotherhood, another VC drop, and also carrying the Cruel Barb sword in his off hand, yet another VC drop. He also has on the Defias mask (for rogues only) and (although you can't see it) a Defias ring. I think this is about the sum total of Defias stuff you can get on one character.
ETA: Just in case you're wondering, it took me fifteen (15!) Deadmines runs before VC droped the chest armor. If I never see the insides of The Deadmines again it'll be too soon!
http://fff.fathom.org/pages/dipmodern/Jimijamfront.gif
http://fff.fathom.org/pages/dipmodern/Jimijamback.gif
评论来自
Thottbot
I have seen better thins than this like the reward for the quest in VC. the set isnt all worth it either. Some of the items are ok but i have these boots called Feet of the Lynx that aare better than the Defias boots. And ive seen other items better then the rest of the set. So all in all this is ok and the set is only a little ok. Always hope for a Cruel Barb more than this because it KILLS in offhand and main hand.
评论来自
Thottbot
why would you get tunic of westfall instead if ur a rogue
评论来自
Thottbot
When you get the Defias chest piece, just buy the rest of the set on AH.. thats what i did, it saved me alot of time.
评论来自
Thottbot
If u reallly wanna twink u shouldl get......
-lucky fishing hat (100hp or 8 agil)
-pvp necklace
-feral shoulders or tablar mantel
-sentry cloak (3 agil or 12 dodge rating)
-Blackened defias chest or tunic of westfall (4 stats or 100 health)
-Forest leather bracers (9 stam)
-Bristle back gloves(15 agil)
- Dark leather pants ( clefthide or nethercleft)
- Feet of the lynx (minor speed increase)
- Rings with stam and agil..... lol
- Trinkets.....lol
- Shadowfang (crusader or 15 agility)
-(offhand) Cruel barb or assasins blade (15 agility)
评论来自
Thottbot
good god... this is ridiculous
im at 47 VC downs, and i havent seen the chest yet
I HAVE NPC'd
Cruel Barbx17
Corsair's Overshirtx24
Cape of the Brotherhoodx6
I am seriously starting to wonder if Blizz removed this from the game lol
评论来自
Thottbot
yeah i have ran like 20x and still no sign of this chest...
评论来自
Thottbot
Just picked this up on my lvl 13 rogue. your best bet is to run deadmines from lvl 10 even though its difficult u never can guarantee when your like lvl 17 or higher trying to stay in the lvl 10-19 bracket and leave because u've run deadmines like 20 times.
Happy twinking!
评论来自
Thottbot
I feel for all of you guys who cant get it to drop. My lvl 19 rogue has been trying to get it since lvl 17. I have done VC runs like crazy with my lvl 53 paladin friend and still no drop. I have 4/5 of the set and so far all i keep getting is those damn corsair shirts. The only good thing that dropped was the cloak of the brotherhood. Well, guess ill start going for run #8
评论来自
Thottbot
On a level 19 rgoue twink the Agi from Tunic would give crit chance and dodge. The difference at 19s would be 60 health from the 6 stam on this. Personally I prefer this way more on a hunter than a rogue.
评论来自
Thottbot
awesome twink gear
评论来自
Thottbot
I feel sorry for all you guys who ran DM 30 times and never got this. I just went through twice with a 65 priest running my twink rogue through - I got cruel barb the first time and blackened defias the second. Huzzah!
评论来自
Thottbot
As for gettin the set.. AH
The chest piece - BOA take a high lvl to run
you Deadmines..
Easy and pie..
23-Bojimaru Rouge Proudmoore
评论来自
Thottbot
ive been farming for that thing for 5 days on my lvl 19 twink rogue and it never dropped.. so i settled with tunic of westfall... and when someone runs my hunter thru deadmines it drops!
评论来自
Thottbot
What I think is to have a lvl 60+ run VC BY HIS/HER SELF(So you get no EXP). When the lvl 60+ gets to the last boss (Van Clief) Have the 60+ run back...Kill the pats then you go in and go to Van Clief then kill him and see if it drops. ^_^
Hope that helps...! :P
评论来自
Thottbot
First run i got it!I'm like.....HOLY CRAP DUDE then i just reset and got meh cruel barbs.........Its not luck......Like someone else said"stay at lvl 10 when u get the run. IT DOESN'T WORK!HAH
评论来自
Thottbot
Started doing this at 10, after 4 boring runs got 2 cruel barbs and chest.
I wouldnt do at 10, because poor booster has hell of a time, because you aggro everything... Instead do at 15ish, and make raid group to limit exp
评论来自
Thottbot
Ok, Question here...I am 0 for 15 runs on this drop which I started after at lvl 10. I am now almost 16. Is it possible that there is a required level to get it 'to' drop? Like am I not high enough to make it drop for me or something? Any ideas on why this BDA is not dropping for me are appreciated...Peace
评论来自
Thottbot
Well anyway i'm making a hunter TWINK!
and i've been running Deadmines since i was level 14
and my 70 mage ran me about 10 times and
that DAM chest didn't drop just the ugly BAR!
so now i'm 17 and still running it now with a PROT
pali and still no drop!
PLUS: the The Cruel Barb and the Chest has the same drop rate.. soo idk why it ain't even dropping!
i hope i'm not the only one thats having a hard time getting this drop.
TWINK hunter : Zaro *Daggerspine* horde
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm 0 for 19 at lvl 17 now for this Blackened Defias Drop off of VanCleef. Does anyone know why this is not dropping for me?
Thanks in advance,
Another Rogue
评论来自
Thottbot
Been trying for 2days to get this on my twink hunter and so far im 0 for 20 and lvled from 12 to 17 from the runs and ive had the cape drop on the last 9 runs not much else i can do being horde gonna have to just keep going for it and hope it drops
***EDIT: Finally got it on my 32nd run through DM------how i did it, i asked him to drop it for me while i killed him and he did!
评论来自
Thottbot
Right well. This is what I have/am getting for my twink hunter. Please make suggestions and opinions. And please, please don't be rude about it.
Lucky Fishing Hat (In Progress)
WSG Neck (In progress)
Serpent's Shoulders. (Or the BoA ones?)
Sentry Cloak (+3 agility)
Blackened Defias Chest. (in progress. +4 to all stats)
Wrangler's Wristband of the monkey. (+9 stamina)
Gloves of the fang (+15 agility)
Deviate Scale Belt
Leggings of the fang (+16 armor)
Feet of the Lynx (minor speed increase)
Seal of Sylvanas (in progress)
WSG ring (in progress)
WSG trinket (in progress)
Arena grand master (in progress)
Venomstrike (scope. +2 damage.)
Emberstone Staff (in progress. Step in weapon until Twisted Chanter's staff shows up on the auction house. Fingers crossed. >.< +25 agility)
Please leave any opinions, suggestion, or even changes. I would really appreciate it. It's my first hunter twink.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This set should go first to rogues and hunters. anyone else should only roll if there are no rogues or hunters in the party. mages, priests, and warlocks: you cant wear the armor. shamans and druids: you can get the Embrace of the Viper set, which suits you more, in Wailing Caverns, so leave this set for the rogues and hunters. pallys and warriors: you guys can wear mail armor, which is a LOT better for you than any leather armor in the world. rogues and hunters: this set is made for you, so dont be idiots and roll on the Embrace of the Viper set if there are any druids or shamans if you go to the Wailing Caverns.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Yea you can get it on horde too, ofc its not only alliance item :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
I went with my rogue into Deadmines with a lvl 60 and i got it first try it was great, it does have a low drop, but it was kinda kool i got it on 1st try.
评论来自
Allakhazam
WARRIOR ITEM TOO... l2p if u claim anything else :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Stat Wise this is very good > than Armour of the Fang but (especially for Druids and Shamans) if u get the armour of the fang u will have 4 parts of the set (assuuming u botherd to run enough to get the belt and u dont have the fishing gear) this means u get +11 heals and +4 spell dam and the armour of the fang dosnt have bad stats at all...
评论来自
Allakhazam
This thing has yet to drop for my hunter on Archimonde, I had the same problem with some of the Viper set as well for my troll shammy on Firetree. I have run over a dozen times & seen the crappy cloth armor drop almost the whole time, followed by the cape, then the sword once. I've gone through with a whole group as well as rushers and to no avail. Blizz better up the ante on this crap cause its getting frustrating...
评论来自
Allakhazam
This took me 3DM runs to get it, sucks that im a pally though :(
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is to a powerful set.
i got this set and cruel barbsx2
so that is an extra 34 attack power right there.
my rogue is semi-twinked
评论来自
Allakhazam
Horde-side, this is the best rogue armor in the 10-19 bracket. Westfall is Alliance only.
I've been through DM
at least
6 times, and this
still
hasn't dropped for my rogue twink! I've gotten the Corsair's Overshirt a bunch of times, the Cruel Barb (yay) once, and the Cape of the Brotherhood once or twice.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well, just killed VC for fun at level 52 or something like that. Anyway, he dropped it and I sold it to the vendor :P.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this since lvl 21 or something like that on my hunter, now lvl 33 and he still uses it. U might find better on AH, but u won't find any better via quests :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is clearly a rogues set. Im currently collecting the whole set with my lvl 47 mage and sending it to my lvl 14 rogue. Its perfect for him. Sad thing is i'll have to find a group when it comes to collecting the chest piece =(
评论来自
Allakhazam
I LIKE THE WESTFALL CHEST PIECE BETTER LOL
评论来自
Allakhazam
ok for those of u who think it drops an average of 1/7 runs ur #$%^in retarded just because u run it over and over again doesnt mean the drop rate goes up it only counts for that 1 run it doesnt stack up and i agree this set does suck
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got 19 lvl twink rogue and he try to get this item many times but i got enything else than thatX( then i go boost one dude in DM whit my hunter and HE GOT THIS ITEM! damn i was laughing for that...
评论来自
Allakhazam
I WAS SOO LUCKY! i did first run bam got it! :D and loads of other nice weaps
评论来自
Allakhazam
im willing to buy this armor for my lvl 20 shammy
sturmdrang-blackhand server
评论来自
Allakhazam
i reckon this will b awsome for my druid when i make him i dono about the stam on westfall tunic but this would be awsome in bear or cat form
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img159.echo.cx/img159/4320/sammi23xc.jpg
Cute little female gnome in full Defias.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I would think that this is good for a feral combat druid, if they mostly use bear, as it has more strength and stamina. The viper set would be good for cat form, but I prefer the defias leather to the viper
评论来自
Allakhazam
It's a last piece of set =)) I want it)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Kinda pointless for any alliance rogue/hunter tunic of westfall owns this...more on the shammie/druid side.....or even better a shard :D
评论来自
Allakhazam
This set is terrible, the only good peice is this chest. Awsome for twinks with +100 hp. Ownage in WSG. This hasnt droped for my twink yet though.. 3 capes so far lol.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i got it at lvl 17 and used all the DM prizes for armor at lvl 19-20 and used them until lvl 30
one of the two sets i have gotten =P
take my advice, dont sell it, use it if u can
评论来自
Allakhazam
My hunter didn't get one, neither did my rogue nor druid.
My main is 60 mage and you don't know how many times I had to run DM for guildies and friends. Never saw it drop once. Same with Cruel barb. WTH! Only 2 drops I've seen from VC are the cloth chest and cape.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone know if this drops from a specific mob or area of mobs, or is it completely random off of any mob?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just got mine last night. A lvl 50 guildmate ran me through and I got lucky. Very nice. Good luck to everyone else trying to find it!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Wheee... I have the full set. It's great!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this the first run on VC.....wouldve prefered something i could wear but oh well
评论来自
Allakhazam
lol got bored wit my hunter and started with the set. i got the chest and belt so far..
评论来自
Allakhazam
rogues item. no other class touch or else i shoo u away =D
评论来自
Allakhazam
sorry didnt mean to do that >< but i was going to say that i got this with my 19 war when a friend from my guild was helping me with VC. he let me have all the drops b/c he's a high lvl and i really dont know if i should wear it or wear something with a higher def. anybody got any ideas?
Edited, Thu Mar 24 12:25:44 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
I don't quite see the point of this set all together and the defias chestpiece especially. The questreward for killing VC for leatherwearers is the tunic of westfall, which has 11 agi, that is 2 points more agi than the whole defias set taken together. As well it has way more AR than the defias item. So where is the point in wearing this set apart from it lookin really evil? Especially when you are a human combat rogue specialising in Swords/ maces which takes the usage of +1 daggers away as well?
Edith says: Just to make this even more ridiculous: The nightscape chestpiece is lvl. 36 and has only 20 more AC, 4 more agi and 2 more sta. So if there is any point in the nightscape chestpiece it would mean you keep the tunic of westfall from like lvl 18 (when you kill VC) up until lvl. 36 (when you are able to wear the nightscape).
Edited, Fri Jul 29 07:49:11 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Well, i have the entire set (minus this piece, but im working on that) but im worried that once i finally get this piece to finsh the set, ill be able to get something better.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can anyone confirm that you can get this on Horde? Ran it 5 times and not a single piece of defias has dropped although i'm only looking for the chest
评论来自
Allakhazam
I did the Deadmines for the first time tonight, and we'd made it all the way to Edwin before we had our first death (me). After our priest resurrected me, we checked Edwin's corpse and found this item. Our two rogues and I (a 19 druid) rolled for it, and I got it. It's my first blue and I'll wear it with pride, and it will definitely be great once I get cat form.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am now doing free VC runs on Burning Blade. All you need to do is let me have all the items you dont need. Runs general take 30-45 mins. Wisper Zuty and if you are a twink join my twinks guild we can always use more.
评论来自
Allakhazam
the first time i went through DM i wanted that and i got it:P at lvl 15:P
43 rogue human (misha)
评论来自
Allakhazam
i can pwn u al tbh :) 3k hp :\ kinda good for a 19 twink id say
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just want this for my rogue. Mind if someone could run me through plz. Thanks.
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Names: Koiuy 39 druid, Hoiuy 60 hunter, Loiuy 32 pally, Magnom 18 Mage, Quiks 6 rogue, Shraen 29 shaman, Wtfbbqyou 17 warlock, Stardest 14 druid
(Playing Quiks and Koiuy the most)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ive finnally got all the defias armour including the bandana and bandit shoulders. also got thives blade and cruel barb. im so totaly defilased out.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Could any high lvl on Thunderlord run my level 11(soon to be 19 twink) through so i can get this and cruel barb? I don't have much money, but i can make jewelry:) Send a whisper to Frawstee or Lollersickle or mail me if i am not online. Thanks!
评论来自
Allakhazam
this piece of armor drops from Van Cleef in deadmins instance and has around a 8% chance according to cosmos
Edited, Thu Nov 18 00:45:32 2004
评论来自
Allakhazam
Ugh.
I have the other 4 pieces, and I was thinking, "oh, I'll go look up the armor! It's probably not too hard to get!"
Ouch.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Heres the set on my 60 warrior for Defias and Of the fang
http://www.photodump.com/viewer/Whitee/Set-of-the-fang492.html
http://www.photodump.com/viewer/Whitee/Set-of-blackend-defias.html
评论来自
Allakhazam
Anyone know the bonus for the full set of armor? I currently have 4, all but the boots and I get:
+10 armor
+5 arcane resistance
+1 daggers
评论来自
Allakhazam
Lol i use this as my warrior at lvl 19 pvp with +100hp on it it rocks gives me +210 hp for wsg nothing better at lvl 19
评论来自
Allakhazam
This set is for Feral Druids and Rogues, maybe Hunters. I have all other pieces of set just need this piece now :P
Edited, Dec 28th 2006 7:58am by markthespark
评论来自
Allakhazam
I read this entire post and I believe I saw a couple of people say that this armor was BoP. Is that just for the chest piece? Or has that changed as I purchased 2 items on the AH (horde side). Am I correct in thinking that this set is only found in an Alliance instance? Thanks ahead of time for any help.
-e
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/412/femaleorcfulldefias4gz.jpg
评论来自
Allakhazam
I know this question is a bit off topic but when do you get fiery enchant? A what lvl enchanting i mean.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This feats a rogue so perfectly.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i got all the other pieces in one run it was great i just need this to complete it!
ps. THIS IS FOR LEATHER-WEARERS ONLY!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Im a lvl 24 rogue and I still use it. I think it is awsome armor. It might not be the best but it looks flat out awsome with my guild tabard (black lined in blue) and the red rogue mask.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've been trying to get this chest-piece since i was lvl 18 night elf rogue and now i have all the other pieces of the set but am lvl 22, so plz tell me, is it worth having this set or can i find something better?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I ran VC about 16 times to get this for my hunter twink( friend ran me thru). If u want this item be ready for a wait.
评论来自
Allakhazam
go for the defias armour if you must, but for your own sake, upgrade to the nightscape tunic once you hit lvl 36. if you're nice, someone might make it for you...
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this piece on my 3rd VC run at level 19. Also have the whole set.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Na, the BP you get from the VC quest is better for rogs, this set is more for the bear druid and str melee characters. you can find better, need mor agil for crits and doge.
maby wear boots and such at lower level
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've never seen this the entire time i've been in deadmines. Not good.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i m of the Horde can i do this quest?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can a horde player get this item? It is in deadmines - isn't that open only to alliance?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I hate it how Rogues and Hunters think this is specifically for them. News flash: You guys get a way better chest piece when you finish the quest since you guys need +11 agility alot more than you need +11 stamina. I believe Hunters and Rogues shouldn't be allowed to roll on this. This chest piece is godly for Paladins, Warriors, Shamans, and Feral Druids due to its amazing +11 stamina bonus. Now you guys might say leather ain't for Warriors or Paladins, which is true, but the +11 stamina bonus is literally twice as good as any stamina bonus you get with mail armor. If you're a Warrior or Paladin, you're stupid if you don't roll on this. An extra 60 health is alot more important than a small 80 armor bonus. Trust me.
P.S.
This item is godly with the Chausses of Westfall.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got these boots, but I'm gonna grind only the chestpiece. The rest will be Embrace of the Viper stuff. I know it has druid/shammy set bonusses, but the agi on that combined with this chestpiece is something that should come out nicely for 10-19 WSG.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I dunno if I like this set as a whole. The bonuses far from make it worth it to have the lvl 13 stuff at lvl 19. The chest is awesome but the gloves etc are too low. There is much better lvl 19 stuff even for a twink.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I took a group through Deadmines and this dropped of VanCleef. We had just one leather wearer in the group, so he rolled while the rest of us passed except the priest who rolled and won...then proceeded to disenchant it. They need to fix something in this game.
评论来自
Allakhazam
why does people complain? in my 3 VanCleef kills, 2 chests, and 1 barb has dropped :S
评论来自
Allakhazam
so far i have the gloves and the belt. lol, VanCleef has dropped everything ELSE but this so far... so frustrating... but i disagree about it not being that good for lvl 19 or w.e... once u have the entire set the bonuses are perfect for me, im a daggers rogue so yeah, it works out pretty well for me, haha. p.s. i know some ppl were asking and yeah u can get it for horde, i have 2/5 pieces with my troll, haha, and let me tell u i can already tell its gonna look awesome on trolls.
评论来自
Allakhazam
has any one tested whether or not you can kill VC and remain at the top of the boat where you just killed him and wait until he respawns and kill him again and again with out exiting the deadmines and re-entering for each kill?
评论来自
Allakhazam
The first time i went through VC i got 3 pieces of this, The leggings, the gloves, and the armor. I about poo'd my pants. I need to get the full set, what i have already looks awesome on my BE rogue. Especially with the red defias mask.
评论来自
Allakhazam
don't really wear it anymore due to the fact that I have smelting pants and gold flecked gloves which are blue items. still hang onto till i reach higher levels cuz it's fun to wear all black.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just got mine and its sweet. Apparently only VC drops it, and I barely won the group roll.
http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?19782
In our group of 4 we managed to get 4 of the 5 pieces (forgot which one we missed) but this was the only one I won.
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
out of 9 runs it finly drops and the mage rolls a 92 and wins oh well guess wont waste any more time there.
spooner
21 lv rogue
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've looked at the Blackened Defias set and in all it was much lower in reqlvl then the LW Dark Leather set, so I've figured it was the best set for any rouge BEFORE switching to the LW Dark Leather set, as long as getting some shoulderpads after attaining level 15.
But then I saw this... and it ruined my idea. The Dark Leather Tunic is level15req, this is level19req and adds ALLOT of stats. There's no reason 'upgrading' to the LW Dark Leather set if you have this piece of armor.
But when you do get it, you have a really big problem: In order to get all the advantages of having the full set, you are 'forced' to use mostlly level 13 items.
At first it doesn't seem that bad, but by the time you're 23+, the chest peice is still about the best you can find, while all the rest are a real pain to look at, considering just about any other drop you get, and really upseting while constantlly considering the Dark Leather LW set.
But the LW set has no 'combination points', and as I've said before, the tunic is only level 15 and is hardlly a match.
Also, I wanted to ask, How many level 15- you've seen doing the deadmines? How many level 15- you've seen who are willing to spend the cost of those 'level13' items?
In other words, why are they level13 AT ALL?
So I really don't know "What were they thinking?".
Exodus.
I think I could be seeing this all wrong. maybe the Defias set and the Dark Leather set actually match? Have anyone tried combining the two?
Please comment your thoughts regarding this as I'm thinking of doing an interesting combo:
Using the Defias set at the begining, then 'switching' to the Dark Leather set as any Defias item becomes obsulete :)
If that will work I will be one happy rouge! =)
评论来自
Allakhazam
when i did this quest some idiot warrior was rolling on every peice of this set. im a mage so it doesnt really aply to me but this set should be left to the rogues or possibly hunters
评论来自
Allakhazam
Great for warrior twinks, yes leather, but the 11 stam is great
评论来自
Allakhazam
Stupid Bind of Pickup. I've just been running my level 40 hunter through DM trying to get these pieces for my rogue. but now i'm going to have to try and run my rogue through.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can anyone post a pic of this on an undead rogue or a orc rogue
评论来自
Allakhazam
does anyone have a pic. of the entire set with the cape on a blood elf rogue?
评论来自
Allakhazam
which shoulder padsgo best in look and stats with the defias set?
评论来自
Allakhazam
This set is useful if you want the Staff of Westfall as the reward.
评论来自
Allakhazam
any druid, shaman, or cloth or mail user shuld die if they roll on this if there is a rogue or hunter in their party. this is pure rogue armor, and if u dont have a rogue, let it go 2 the hunters. druids and shamans, u already have the Embrace of the Viper set. cloth users, u cant wear this, and if u roll for greed or disenchanting when there is a rogue or hunter in the party, u deserve to die a million times. mail wearers, u have WAY better armor 2 wear than this, so if there r leather-users in ur party, let them get it if they need it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
A lot of people told me the Fang chestpiece is better for a Druid than this one, but I disagree. I tried both out and found the Defias chestpiece was MUCH more useful, especially when I'm using Bear form. Please don't say this is specifically for any class or type of spec. I think it's perfect for anyone who can make good use out of it
评论来自
Allakhazam
This set is for Rogues, and rogues only. Hunters only need this if none other set is availible. The chest is good but as Sillywindput it, why are the other items lvl 13 req? Dump this set as soon as possible. I have 4/5 (need armour) pieces and don't consider this a very powerful set.
评论来自
Allakhazam
When you want this item, it never drops. Good luck
评论来自
Allakhazam
i have the whole set for my elf hunter thats a level 32 and its doing fairly well for my person havent even worried bout upgrading very much because i rarely get damage done to myself but it still stands up well for my guy
-whyle
-MistHowler "poochie"
评论来自
Allakhazam
i got whole set except the chest for my twink rogue.he's only lvl 11 tho so i still have time enough to get it :D my hunter is lvl 52 now and it only dropped once for me in like 200 times DM.
评论来自
Allakhazam
im a litle upset about the low agi this set gives
评论来自
Allakhazam
It isn't too hard if you have a char above 35. Unfortunately, the armor isn't that good then, and it binds on pickup..
. So you'd have to farm it with a friend who was willing to spend the time killing van cleef like 5-10 times. (that's about 20 hours of play with no xp for them.)
Oy.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i want this soooo bad, if anyone in bronzebeard wants to help me farm, page my im TYMMN
评论来自
Allakhazam
i have this but im having trouble getting all the other pieces... should i DE this and find another set? Since the item sets only show level 60s...
评论来自
Allakhazam
ya know, it's not that easy to run the Wailing Caverns for an Alliance Druid. How much is this set worth?
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is the last piece thats missing for my lvl 20 NE Rouge and was wondering how long before i can get something better for my level.
评论来自
Allakhazam
hah...32 rogue and got this on my first full run through VC. i've been through that place countless times but finally completed it tonight. the armor dropped off VC and only a hunter and i wanted it, and i won the roll...thus completing my set.
a lovely leather chest piece. i know people argue that the tunic of westfall is better for a rogue, but i prefer the look, i'm vain like that.
which bring me to my point, the Defias armor set is beautiful, especially to a big Defias fan like myself, but it's weak. the bonus for the set is nice, but like some else pointed out, why is most of it lvl13? you can barely even armor kit it. it's good for looks and not much, though i plan to wear the chest piece for a bit at least...
评论来自
Allakhazam
i have a druid alt, and it took me a really long time to decide wether i wanted to get him the defias armor or the fang because hes a feral druid. cat form mimics rogues so of course rogue armor would be good for that. i decided to get the fang armor because its right there in the barrens and because of the +10 to int that you get. but i can clearly understand why a druid might want the defias armor. its made for rogues, but druids, and hunters can get alot of good use out of it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
the dam top never drops for me.... ive been running DM since i was lvl 16 and im lvl 23 now and the top still has never dropped,thats over 100 times of running DM, i have gotten everything else like 5 times each but no top! WTF is that! wat the hell am i doing wrong here!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm a level 18 hunter and this armour rules except i have killed Van CLeef i couple of times and he still hasnt dropped the CHEST!
p.s If any1 is from the realm Aman' Thul plz tell me
评论来自
Allakhazam
Im about to go for this for my level 27 troll hunter(yes, I know it is in westfall, but I am dedicated to having this set for her). I hope that it is worth it in the long run!
评论来自
Allakhazam
i have a lvl 18 rogue, i have the entire set, just need to get to 19 to equip the armor and also have 2 cruel barbs, i think that this is a great set up for a rogue, and i have the cape of the brotherhood waiting for me at lvl 20 also. this is one of the best sets i have seen, especially for this level
评论来自
Allakhazam
My friend says that only 50% of all rouges an any given server will get all 5 Blackened Defias Leather. I only need this peice and ill be 1 of the 50% who has all 5.
... Im level 23 and i still dont have all of em...
/cry
- Themadness
Level 23 Combat Rogue Twink
Chromaggus PvP EU
评论来自
Allakhazam
aah cant wait till lv 19 im gonna get my rogue those and cruel barb...
评论来自
TheSephiroth
I feel bad if there's another leather user in the group in Deadmines, this will be ninja looted 100% of the time if that's the case. Unless the group is friendly and willing to give it away, which might be rare.
评论来自
Ozgurus
Dropped after 15 runs today.
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