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评论来自
5027
No doubt there is going to be a lot of debate about this talent. All I can say it that without a doubt, if you plan on tanking as a paladin, you should get this! A PASSIVE ability that reduces the damage you take by half is quite amazing.
Yes, it does have problems. It only takes effect when you are at 20% life. Yes, it is possible for an enemy to leapfrog over it (e.g. if you were at 21% life and the enemy hits you for enough damage to to kill you then Argent Defender will not take effect.)
Obviously there will always be flaws. But it is just as likely you could get knocked down to 19% as 21% so that scenario isn't very applicable. And if you are regularly getting hit for half your life, you really should invest in more stamina and armor anyway.
Bottom line is, think about all the time the healers say "Almost had it! Half a second more!" (And I play in the same room with a healer and hear this a lot). With this talent, they will get that extra half second. =)
评论来自
1909
I agree on both points: this talent IS debated, however I'm with the crowd that likes this talent. Think of it as a weaker Shield Wall that gets applied whenever your health gets really low. Being a Protection Paladin myself I can say this talent has saved my life several times already. Definitely worth the 5 points.
评论来自
50864
When you have less than 35% health, all damage taken is reduced by 30%
this is the new way of this ability it does work. %20 health is now %35 but reduction went down from %50 to %35. better now imo
评论来自
RogueJedi86
I'm new to Prot, and I agree, this is amazing. I was questing in Bone Wastes, got down to 1500 health with 3 or 4 mobs still 1/3 alive, and I was able to finish them all before I got down to 1000 health. I think this is why I'm less worried about having low health. I love it.
评论来自
24111
Is it even possible to kill a paladin with this? Plates 50% and more, Improved RF 6%, Redoubt+Shield Spec/Holy Shield, Blessing of Sanctuary...
Blizz WTF?!
评论来自
37463
I think this is an amazing talent. However I think it is more applicable to some situations versus others. I think for arenas and other pvp it quite amazing since you can stack up stam and armor not worry about pure avoidance and this just becomes evil ;-p You should be able to absorb quite a few hits in that range without dying. Same thing for soloing.
For PvE tanking however I see some limitations:
(I'm thinking about slow, hard hitting heroic or raid bosses here) It will only tend to be effective when your health is very close (but just under) 35%. In other words, it will only save your life (from big hits) when you are in a sweet spot between something like 20%-34%.varying somewhat on gear and how hard the boss hits.
I'm not saying it's useless, it's not. Just understand its limitations. If you are specing PURELY for tanking and don't care at all about bonus healing from Holy or SoCommand for solo dps then go ahead and take it :) It will save you from the odd wipe. Where it may shine is when you are learning new content like trying Karazhan for the first while etc, when you and the healers are still figuring out the encounters. Saving wipes saves repair bills, morale and time and may give you that one extra attempt on a boss.
Also note this is ALL damage, not just physical/melee :)
Also, also (lol) I'm thinking this is post-mitigation, not pre (that's a good thing). Can anyone verify?
评论来自
Carighan
This talent isn't that great for Bosstanking (you might jump those 35% very often, and even if not: Once you're below 35%, the next hit will kill, -30% damage or not), but for AE tanking this talent is the absolute must-have.
For Bosstanking, swap those 5 points over to Weapon Mastery - despite what many people say, once you actually run the math on WM, it gets one of the best talents for tanking single tough bosses.
For mass-tanking, Argent Defender is amazing. It allows a healer to save you from complete overpulls, basically hovering you at ~35% HP all the time.
评论来自
52664
At best, this gives you 15% more HP.
If you have 5000 HP, it kicks in at 1750 HP. If you would be hit for 2500 dmg, with AD, you only take 1750 dmg. Mitigated: 750 dmg, or 15% of your max HP.
If you have 10,000 HP, it kicks in at 3500 HP. If you would be hit for 5000 dmg, with AD, you only take 3500 dmg. Mitigated: 1500 dmg, or 15% of your max HP.
If you have 18,000 HP, it kicks in at 6300 HP. If you would be hit for 9000 dmg, with AD, you only take 6300 dmg. Mitigated: 2700 dmg, or 15% of your max HP.
Now let's imagine a scenario:
You: 18,000 HP
Mob: 5400 damage hits - 30% of your HP
Hit 1: You're down to 12,600 HP
Hit 2: You're down to 7200 HP
Hit 3: You're down to 1800 HP
Hit 4 w/ AD: You're down to -1,980 pushing up daisies.
Hit 4 w/o AD: You're down to -3600, pushing up daisies
Now why AD makes the day: a single 2K heal in four hits and you would have lived with 20 HP.
Overall, if you're tanking mobs that are hitting you for over 30% of your HP in a single hit, you'll get a lot less out of AD than usual. However, with level cap coming, and therefore the HP amounts raising, an extra +15% will go a very, very long way for tankadins.
评论来自
124966
I had heard lots of conflicting opinions on this talent, but last night my pally tanked Prince and nightbane for the first time and these two encounters absolutely sold me on Ardent Defender. My raid is well established; my pally is an alt i brought in when my main was geared up, and his gear is decent, but not fantastic. Mostly 70 blues and a few epics.
The one moment that sticks out in my mind is on the second attempt at prince, the one we down him on (i messed up the tanking spot first time) Prince clobbered me with 4 ax attacks nearly all at once and followed with a shadow nova. Two of the ax blows and the shadow nova all fell within AD range. I have no doubt that it saved me, and my raid.
Its not gonna come into play every fight, its not going to save you every time. In the end its similar to shield wall (not mechanically, obviously), its ideally never going to be needed; but if you need it, even if its just once or twice a raid, you're gonna be very, very happy you have it.
评论来自
84594
AD isn't going to save you on slow heavy hitters. They'll hit so hard it wont matter. (Gruul for example)
It will, however, save you on any fast light hitter (Moroes). And it will help when doing any 5man (since almost nothing in that can hit you hard enough to remove the 35% in 1 hit).
(I realize Gruul and Kara are leagues apart. But it's a fight most should know thus making it a relevant reference.)
评论来自
snags
If you can stand PvPing as prot, this talent combined with Holy Shield (and full PvE prot gear) makes for some serious lolz against melee classes.
It's just a pity that you'll never be able to kill anyone if they figure out they can just walk away from you to stop taking damage...
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需要 圣骑士
当你的生命值低于35%时,你承受的所有伤害降低30%。
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Apply Aura:Mod % Damage Taken (冰霜,奥术,暗影,火焰,物理,神圣,自然)
价值:-30%
PVP 倍率:1
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