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评论来自
23137
one of the better off hands around for a Combat-Dagger spec'd rogue.
评论来自
PainKiller
dagger/fist....combat
only sword you will like something like latros on off hand because of the proc
评论来自
39022
I don't mean to complain but shouldn't players who run heroics have a better understanding of itemization? I have ran heroic ramparts 9 times for this and luckily seen it drop twice. However, both times a shaman said he wanted it and won the roll. I know the faster the weapon is the more wf proc's you will get but shamans don't demand a 1.3 / 1.4 attack speed weapon. However, rogues with combat potency are limited too only daggers and at this moment this is one of the best oh daggers out there. So remember shamans / warriors / hunters/ you have many options with oh weapons, we rogues have 1.
评论来自
40693
so does this item drop a lot in heroic ramparts
cause i dunno if they separated nazam from heroic nazam
评论来自
Shinja
Upgraded in 2.1 PTR (5/15):
83-156
1.4
85.4 DPS
22 Crit
34 AP
评论来自
26119
I got this last night on my hunter, though I agree, I would never have rolled against a rogue. Our druid didn't want it, so I was able to get it.
评论来自
46861
Is the green glow in the screenshots from an enchant or is that the natural glow of the dagger?
评论来自
51621
PIcked this dagger up last night, being i am a combat -dagger - backstab rogue this dagger is amazing! I'm using Whispering
https://www.cuckhead.com/tbc/item=27913
in the main hand and my backstabs are now critting 2100 and upward. Looking to get Malchazeen or Emerald for the MH.
评论来自
76991
If a shaman rolls on this he is either:
1. A retard
2. A clever ninja who just earned 11g
It doesn't matter if there are someone else rolling for it cos shamans do superior dps with slower GREENS than fast epics..
评论来自
22103
With the exception of pvp gear, this is the ONLY epic pre-raid off-hand viable for fury wars. Everything else from heroics/badges/rep/etc is too slow or stacked with agility for rogues. Lets list them:
https://www.cuckhead.com/tbc/item=29121
rogues
https://www.cuckhead.com/tbc/item=29125
rogues
https://www.cuckhead.com/tbc/item=29362
Don't even joke
https://www.cuckhead.com/tbc/item=28425
also for rogues
https://www.cuckhead.com/tbc/item=29346
viable for a fury war
Considering whats available, I would allow a fury warrior to roll on this, even against a dagger rogue.
If u disagree, then give some reasoning instead of down-rating the comment.
评论来自
Whoopmeister
When enchanted with mongoose, this weapon does not display the electrical field effect as with other weapons, rather just the native green glow. Submitted support ticket and GM said they are aware of the issue but had no plans to correct it at this time (stated by GM on 01/18/08).
评论来自
4854
Mongoose glow doesn't show when the weapon already has a glow, it's the same thing with the Searing Sunblade
评论来自
90985
As a hunter I would never want this item. No stats on a melee weapon = bad weapon. The attack power minimal comparing it to The Sonic Spear or even S1 2h Axe. This is definitely a rogue's dagger.
评论来自
Allakhazam
You ACTUALLY Eviscerate someone, not just do some dmg. Target is incapacitated, and dies a slow, bloody, gory death. If there is some kind of war medic near by they will in vain try to help, but will only get covered in blood, and then it will zoom in on there face as a single tear drops.
评论来自
Allakhazam
You actually have trouble with warlocks, man, just get an MSA, and Iblis and go hemo, I have yet to be killed in a 1 on 1 fight against a warlock or mage since I respecced from combat.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got it today from the "Reinforced Fel Iron Chest" in the "Hellfire Ramparts"
评论来自
Allakhazam
Omnicire, I love that chance on hit description.
Seriously though, this is a decent offhand, nothing special however (for an epic).
评论来自
Allakhazam
ok here is how i (a combat dagger rogue) feel about other classes wanting our gear.... STOP i cant use 2h swords or axes so fury warriors n hunters need to back off till the rogues get the daggers. We are very limited in the weapons we can use because we spec to 1 class of weapons (well some of us do) so just respect the fact the we are busting our ass for that drop and chances are you (warriors n hunters) can get some sort of weapon from most heroic instances. plus daggers on hunters make me cry lol they just hang there n get no use such a waste
评论来自
Allakhazam
I use this as my off hand for farming, considering i'm full prot. No rogues in the group, go go warrior.
评论来自
Allakhazam
To avenage you all i stole a bow and used it the instance then DED it when i left.
Muhahahahaha
评论来自
Allakhazam
is it just me, or did the DPS on this get a significant buff, seems a heck of a lot better than it used to be.
评论来自
Allakhazam
ahahahaha ROGUES KICK CLOTHIES!
with this and speccing for the + 10 energy, and the MC armor set with another +10 energy, you could Ambush, Bacstab and eviserate without running out of energy.... probably two or three shot some unexpecting priest.......FINALLY MAGE AAND WARLOCK DEATH! now i can get back at those warlocks who keep fearing me off their buddies!
评论来自
Allakhazam
There's a good way to make money if you're farming heroic badges and primal nethers if no one in the group needs this for an upgrade.
Just spam trade channel and sell it for 300g+, summon the buyer, and let them loot it.
Don't tell me it doesn't work because we just did it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
That's pretty messed up dude. Punk ass hunter. If some awesome epic sh*t with a low drop rate(even without the low drop rate) like this dropped and some hunter needed on it I would be enraged to. A hunter should never need on a melee weapon over a melee class like a warrior or rogue. Just like a melee class should never need on a ranged over a hunter. And I don't give a %^&* if they are some twink you still don't do it. Being a twink doesn't make it right. And the real messed up thing is I guarantee if someone pulled that sh*t on him and needed on one of his ranged weapons when they was a melee class he would pitch a fit. People like that don't like getting served their on bullsh*t. At least there's decent people like that warrior down there. Also I can't wait till I get to heroic on this. Would love to get that weapon. Probably won't though but ya never know.
Edited, Sep 21st 2007 2:23am by DaJokerman
评论来自
Allakhazam
i always hated hunters, but from now, i hate them MUCH MORE! yesterday, dropped on first run! i was with 2 hunters, and the needed on it?
and one of them won it, and gave me 300 gold... WTF? gonna use that 300g for toilet paper
! F*CK HUNTERS!
i dont need on their bow, they dont need on my offhand dagger. so simple isnt it? :O nerf hunters. they can ninja everything >_< so now, 8 runs and it will drop again. cuz it dropped at first run. im pissed off.
评论来自
Thottbot
was in the chest of the last boss of hellfire rampart in heroic mode.
评论来自
Thottbot
its from Ramparts Heroic.
评论来自
Thottbot
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2163/feltoothzf0.jpg
评论来自
Thottbot
Its better than Retainer's Blade for combat dagger rogues with combat potency.
Warriors roll on this? Hopefully not unless rogues pass :P
评论来自
Thottbot
Nope...I dont think it looks like kingsfall...kingsfall has spikes on it...this has a smooth edged blade.
评论来自
Thottbot
it looks like the blade of unquenched thirst but a green/yellow glow instead of blue.
评论来自
Thottbot
ok here is how i (a combat dagger rogue) feel about other classes wanting our gear.... STOP i cant use 2h swords or axes so fury warriors n hunters need to back off till the rogues get the daggers. We are very limited in the weapons we can use because we spec to 1 class of weapons (well some of us do) so just respect the fact the we are busting our ass for that drop and chances are you (warriors n hunters) can get some sort of weapon from most heroic instances. plus daggers on hunters make me cry lol they just hang there n get no use such a waste
评论来自
Thottbot
excellent combat OH for combat potency and poison app.
评论来自
Thottbot
Anybody know the drop rate?
评论来自
Thottbot
its about 5.6% drop rate
评论来自
Thottbot
im a 70 protection warrior, and it dropped for me today. there weren't any rogues so the group let me have it because it was much faster than my old main hand.
评论来自
Thottbot
There's a good way to make money if you're farming heroic badges and primal nethers if no one in the group needs this for an upgrade.
Just spam trade channel and sell it for 300g+, summon the buyer, and let them loot it.
Don't tell me it doesn't work because we just did it.
评论来自
Thottbot
Dropped very first Ramparts Heroic, along with a rogue chest and ring, best instance ever.
评论来自
Thottbot
Our guild's main rogue just picked this up today, after picking up Blade of the Unrequited from Romulo and Julienne in Karazhan Opera on Friday. Needless to say, she is quite happy with both. Gathering the mats for mongoose on it now lol
评论来自
Thottbot
Well, i'm collecting fury gear on my warrior (I mt kara, our rogue has ALOT better) so i got this in heroic ramp good offhand =)
评论来自
Thottbot
combat rogue here - just got this last night, first time doing heroic ramparts. great offhand, goes nicely w/ my emerald ripper :)
评论来自
Thottbot
Dropped my first heroic Ramparts run a few months ago. Shadowpanther says the drop rate is 1%, but I've seen it (well the group has - it's unique) probably 4 of the ~12 times I've run it on heroic. Speed is very nice for combat rogue and I used it OH until I got my merciless glad OH
评论来自
Thottbot
Cant wait for this one. Im a combat rogue and im gonna use it in off hand :)
So if any warrior or hunter comes in my group:
You can wield so many weps so please pass it to some1 who is gonne use it for along time :P
评论来自
Thottbot
So you telling me on my rogue in one heroic ramps I could possibly get 2 new daggers one from chest one from Omor /drool
评论来自
Thottbot
i would
not
use this with dirge
评论来自
Thottbot
Kind of dumb to argue that a fury warrior can use more weapons(yes axes but list a good axe drop besides from prince, yeah there isn't one until much past kara) since if you are deep fury you will be dual wielding if you aren't a complete idiot. Just don't take a fury warrior and a rogue in the same group and it will help for group balance and will avoid arguments.
评论来自
Thottbot
Unfortunately though when your dps is the most important is when the mob is being tanked, where you won't likely be hit by a critical strike anyways. For hardcore pvp mongers it probably won't be the best though considering it has no stam and as listed above it would waste enrage to an extent but hardcore pvp warriors are usually arms spec anyways.
评论来自
Thottbot
Regroup with that hunter and then outroll him on a bow/gun. Then he will understand.
Some people are greedy and dont understand what a primary damage vehicle is.
Who gets more out of what. A rogue should never roll over a hunter for ranged weapons. As a hunter should never go for fast daggers over rogues imo.
评论来自
Thottbot
Warlock rolled on this and won it today...Said it was stupid to use. Damn, it was better than no weapon at all for my Fury spec, but he ignored it and won it. Then DE-ed it...I hope he dies in a car accident
评论来自
Thottbot
Picked this up a few minutes ago, wasn't expecting it at all. Nowadays the gladiator gear outstrips this, so it's not that great. All the same, high speed daggers are a bugger to come across, so if you're stuck I'd suggest giving this a go.
Very rogue friendly.
评论来自
Thottbot
Saw this drop twice, first time, a stupid idiot PROT WARRIOR NEEDED IT, but then we did it again, WITHOUT THAT LAME PROT WARRIOR and i got it, put 15 gility on it and WOOOOEEEEE IT HAULS!
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