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These were actually pretty good for those early Naxx attempts, particularly on the more vicious mana intensive fights for hunters such as Anub'rehkan and Patchwerk. Coupled with the Zandalar Predator bracers and Black Grasps of the Destroyer you had some potent mana recovery tools.
Very plain looking (ie Lvl 40 mail pauldron) shoulder piece though. Used to be fun when people would sometimes open a trade drop 10g in and whisper "Go repair man and put on your other shoulders"
So they were also a reliable (ie fleecing guildies) money making tool :P
These drop in Blackwing Lair from the Broodlord Lashlayer. One of BWL's more unattractive drops, but, at least in my case, filled that extra mana recovery in early Naxxramas.
评论来自
Thottbot
Obviously, these shoulders hold some controversy over themselves. However a person cannot just say wheter they ARE hunter or shaman shoulders. Each person plays there character differently. Only certain spec's of shaman may want these shoulders, while others despise them.. same goes for hunters. I personaly am a hunter, and have these shoulders. Although they have less agility than Dragonstalkers, i can easily say these shoulders are awesome. at the loss of 6 agility and 6 stamina, you gaint more intellect for crit and also 9 mana regen every 5 seconds. Depending on how you play your character these can be god-send shoulders. I now have enough gear to have about 50 extra mana regen every 5 seconds... which overall brings my mana regeneration to a very high number.
Also this is a must have for all Kiting hunters, who'd like to kill a named elite, but can do it alone... such as the newer npc Omen...
G/L to those who want it, only a fool would actually believe they are trash. They DO deserve the tag Tier 2.
评论来自
Thottbot
I just gotta say, it's awesome to finally see a drop that we all can agree is just as good for shaman AND hunters. Looks good too. Don't fight about this one!
评论来自
Thottbot
tbqo if you get to BWL and still haven't got better shoulders than these... be you a shaman/hunter.. thats just sick.
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Thottbot
can anyone put p a screen shot of what they look like?
评论来自
Thottbot
I got into a guild recently as a hunter and they were starting BWL runs, so I kinda missed out on MC. I had 6/8 BS gear on my first BWL run aswell geez it was bad. But 2 months down the track and we're fighting Nefarian.
When these dropped on the guild first Broodlord Lashlayer kill everyone paused and looked at them. Universially said "They're crap". I put bid on them and won them, my second epic ever and was laughed at by a few hunters on the run. Ever since then I've worn them with pride and my life has been easyer.
Nice stam = staying alive ability
Nice Int = more mana
Nice Agi = more attack power and other assisted things.
9 mana / 5 gives me more "spell damage" in fights such as aimed and multishot. and in really long fights like Chromaggus it's a godsend. Soo nice.
Since I got them and said how good they were several others in the guild have got them (seem to drop every bloody time) and everyone likes them. Also many paladins and hunter look at them and say how awsome they are. True they're not as good as a tier two epic item, but they're damn fine.
Too all those saying "just go out and get Dragonstalkers, they're better" it's easyer said than done. These drop more often then DS, at an earlyer boss than the shoulders and less hunters are gonna bid on them. Plus if it's so easy, go out and get DS shoulders yourself. It can't be THAT hard right?
Charlamayne, NE Hunter
评论来自
Thottbot
im so glad im alliance... dont gotta deal with shammys and hunters %^&*!ing over who gets what items.
评论来自
Thottbot
got them today for my hunter, not too bad for mana regen, especialy if you have zandalar bracers with mana regin enchant, does good on those long anoying boss fights.
评论来自
Thottbot
All mail wearers (oh wait thats only hunters and shaman) need the mana per 5 for boss fights. I think the other day a hunter said he was running into a problem keeping mana for Rag. Now it may be because of no mana per 5 gear. Hunter ought to have first crack at these, but it all really depends on the player in the raid and whether he/she decides to take them and he's in the posistion to. I doubt if you are in a guild with a hunter and a enhance shaman and for some reason there was a roll and the WoW gods decided to favor the shaman, whats the deal? Are you gonna tell the enhance shaman he doesnt deserve them or that the hunters need is greater? Both classes have the same needs. Now should the shaman be other than a deep spec'd enhance shammy, I think he's been around long enough (considering it BWL loot) that he sees that it will benifit a hunter more. All of this is moot, though, beings the some hunters would be hard pressed to break set bonuses, ect. Now for the pally, I doubt that he/she would take it from a hunter, but it really depends on whos there how they are geared.... wow all you guys must roll with some cutthroats... I find it funny with all this arguing over who should get it... my guild hashes it over for a few mins and talks people into taking some loot like this. We are really polite for the most part. I think some of you all need to lighten up, these things WILL drop, the game says the will, in the meantime, grats to whoever gets it and hope youll get the oppertunity to get it next time.
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Thottbot
Those that are saying these shoulders are specific to one class (shaman or hunter), need to get a clue. Agility, stamina, and intellect is something both classes can use. Even if a shaman is resto, they still may melee pretty often.
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Thottbot
I will refrain from bidding on these when they drop. We are just starting out BWL and I have 8/8 Giantstalker and I am now angling toward mana regen in my build, but.....Giantstalker and Dragonstalker are both really good hunter armor sets. A lot of classes &*!@# about their tier 1 and tier 2 armor sets, but not me, or most hunters.
All of our enhancement shammies don't really like Earthfury at all. Not sure about whether Ten Storms is healbot or not since, but I know that these shoulders are a bigger improvement over our current enhancement shammies than it is over my Giantstalkers, so I would pass.
评论来自
Thottbot
Just got em with my hunter twink. I noticed that I got into mana problems pretty soon in long fights (Ragnaros, Onyxia and so on). The problem with manareg for a hunter is, that you usually spam aimed shot which has a 6 second cooldown and 3 second cast. During the first 5 seconds after the cast, the hunter doesn't regenerate any mana on its own. Only after that time, the spirit mana regen kicks in - for 4 seconds, til the next aimed shot.
That's why it's important to have MP5 items - those always tick and are therefore more important to a hunter than spirit. Too bad there are so few good MP5 items for hunters... and too bad they look so damn ugly :(
Anyway, nice item. Definitely preferrable to DS in long fights.
评论来自
Thottbot
For example, our guild doesn't kite Razoregore, we crush it out and most shamans have enough +Regen gear to keep mana up, in the Vael fight resto means nothing for shamans really except maybe NS, and Broodlord is a wimp. By the time you actually reach this level, your healing is going to be slammin' anyways. BWL requires huge DPS and we have a few resto shamans always in the raid, but throwing points into Enhancement (personally i enhanced the Windfury all the way) creating big DPS jumps and mixing them correctly with resto works awesome....
Of course a lot would disagree, but, it works decent for our guild since we have plenty of good healing.
评论来自
Thottbot
i think these own for a pala prio to palas deffently, shamans and hunters go get a totem to feed off
评论来自
Allakhazam
Pfft. On alliance side, they may be hunter gear...
Shaman shoulders, those are.
评论来自
Allakhazam
stop fighting, both for shaman and hunters.. agi is not only good for hunter its good for all ranged and melee classes.. and the mana better for shaman because they can heal.
评论来自
Allakhazam
These are the best shaman healing shoulders in the game. With the minimal benefit we get from spirit, by virtue of totem dropping and redropping, no regen from spirit during casting, as well as the lower amount of non-casting mana regen per point of spirit, mana per five is an enormously important stat for us. 9 mana per 5 is huge, and easily makes up for the loss of the 18 +healing on EF.
It's a shame points were wasted on agi, though.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is sooo not Shaman,
Shaman isn't agi dude. This is like others said totaly hunter stuff, agi - stm & intel. That's all hunters need
评论来自
Allakhazam
guess this is ok for shaman pvp.
if you get to the boss that drops em, you probably already have almost all, if not all, members equiped with tier 1 epic shoulders. under those circumstances, i fail to see the use of these for pve.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Finally, an item that I can agree is a hunters!
评论来自
Allakhazam
These are awesome for both a hunter, and shaman. It would probably have to come down to who has more dkp/highest roll/whatever, because both classes can make full use of these babies. I'm leaning a bit more towards shaman because of the huge mana regen, but I'm bias :P
Oh, and a pic of what they look would be nice. I wonder if they're as ugly as deep earth spaulders.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Pretty sure they drop in Blackwing Lair, what with the name and the fact that they've just been added to the game.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Um, every hunter in my guild has Giantstalker shoulders already. As far as shoulders go those are pretty average for a hunter, even compared to blues. Anyway, someone needs to post a pic. We all know the most important thing for shoulders is the looks (cuz they stand out so much). NEED PIC!
No pics yet? Does anyone actually have these or were they pulled out of the database or something?
Edited, Fri Jul 22 15:55:45 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
You have to keep in mind that Alliance don't have Shamans. For Alliance I think the classs with the most profit is a Hunter, assuming other casters can't wear mail armor. Ofocurse you have the paly's, but if you are capeable of doing BWL, most of your paladins will be geared out in Tier 1 anyway, which suits better for them. Having a Hunter myself, I have got a few mana regen items which I use during bossfights. A very good example of a mana-eating fight is Golemagg in Molten Core, ask some Hunters and most of them will agree. Ofcourse, if a healer can wear those, I'd say they have priority.
评论来自
Allakhazam
where is this found!
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is the first items I've seen that are targeted towards BOTH horde mail classes.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Had these drop a couple of weeks ago - one hunter already had them, and noone else was showing much interest, so I took them for my paladin. A nice upgrade from Jandice's Royal Cap Spaulders, IMO.
Another paladin was intersted in them for his regen set, but he liked his druid shoulders too much.
评论来自
Allakhazam
If you play ally, it's for hunters, damnit! Mana regen is the shizz in highend, and that pally judgement of wisdom can only help so much :P
评论来自
Allakhazam
The day I see a hunter with mana regen, Im gonna spit on him. Theese shoulders dropped on our first Broodlord kill, a shaman got it ofc..
To all of those who said that shamans can't use this, heard of Enhancement? l2p...
评论来自
Allakhazam
aight to whoever said that hunters dont need mana regen please look at the t3 hunter gear i think about every piece has some sort of mana regen on it so know your facts before you start talking like you know everything... and dont forget the alliance doesnt have shamans... so this would give hunters first dibs... so please think before you talk next time
评论来自
Allakhazam
These are so for a hunter... *flees*
评论来自
Allakhazam
great for both my shaman and hunter but where do they drop?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Currently, this item is really nice for hunters to use during the long boss fights that everyone points to. However, take note, that with all of the changes that are coming in Patch 2.0, these shoulders are going to be nearly useless to a hunter. With only agility and mana regen, these are worse than the ZG hunter shoulders. It sucks for those of us hunters that went and got these, but we're just having to face the trueth. Basically, this item it could to become nexus-bait. Shaman may start looking at them, but even still, the stats on these are pretty horrible.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Drop from Broodlord Lashtail in BWL.
An enhnacement Shaman Can make good use of the agility.
A Hunter can make good use of the Mana regen, mainly during bossfights or soloing (I have them for this use, they add approximately 30% regen for me in full GS). Mana regen is very hard to come by as a hunter and these are likey to be one of the few regen items they will be allowed bid/roll on. Having said that, any hunter doing BWL will already have the arguably better GS shoulders from molten core, with much higher agility.
评论来自
Allakhazam
im sure hunters AND shamans would want to roll on this.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Even as a shaman, I'd say those were more aimed towards hunters, due to the agility. Hunters have mana too, after all, and can use it up at a fair old rate.
That's not to say I wouldn't want them for my shaman, though :D
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Allakhazam
They look like crahahahapppp
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