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What is best is mostly up to spec and playstyle, but some items turn out to be better then other. This has been one of the best daggers ingame due to the +weapon skill, but in patch 2.0.1, the bonus from weapon skill have been nerfed.
Before it reduced the effect of an glancing hit, which you get when you hit mobs / bosses that are of a higher level then you. Since this made some blue items and early Molten Core items invaluable Blizzard changed it. Now it looks like this. (Quoted from 2.0.1 Patch notes)
Weapon Skill now does the following:
Weapon skill will no longer reduce the percentage damage lost due to glancing.
The player will gain 0.1% to their critical strike rating per weapon skill against monsters above their level.
This does quite heavily reduse the effect of the weapon skills and will affect the usefulness of the Human Racial (+5 sword/mace skill) and even weapons from Kel'thuzad. Blizzard will most likely have to change something. Since this is in many people's eyes a useless skill now.
评论来自
JustAnt
Quite a fast attacking dagger.
评论来自
Thottbot
Got this on my first visit to DM. This dagger looks fine graphically..a little plain, however, it for some reason doesn't show up while sheathed =S
评论来自
Thottbot
it makes a difference at any level. Dual weilding and single weilding/two handing have the same amount of dps if weilding similar dmg dealing weapons. Reason being is that they gimped the offhand dmg and also the miss rate to make two handers = to dual weild. So +6 to daggers = level 61 1/5 hit rate with daggers making dual wielding better.
评论来自
Thottbot
vs a level 63 enemy: 40% of your swings will be glancing blows. no +skill: -30% damage on glancing blows. +10 skill: -0% on glancing blows, ie full damage.
pair this with a muggers belt and you'll be hitting for full damage on level 63 enemies when you glance.
评论来自
Thottbot
What part of DM is this boss in?
ive never been there so i dont know where to start
thx for the help :)
评论来自
Thottbot
This is the best PVE dagger for any Raid kind instance since you can put your hands on Core Hound Tooth. But in order to be the best dagger it should be paired with Aged Core Leather Gloves that also give +skill on daggers.
With this combination I am always on the top three of damage list, and if you respec to Combat Dagger (17/24/10) you will be hradly beat by someone. As someone stated above that's because of the glancing penalty.
As a side note, building up more than +10 to daggers will gimp your damage.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Can a high level rogue solo the guy that drops it?
评论来自
Allakhazam
but since it is labeled off hand... would somebody like a priest be able to equip it and still have a mace in their main hand? Not that the weapon would do a caster any good, but the idea of being able to dual wield sounds interesting.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I also have one wuestion please. Could a lvl 57 be in a raid grp and successfully get through Dm this far to kill this guy. If so I'm going as soon as possible to get this dagger. Thank anead of time for any input.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Didnt know about it being capped...
but anyway ill have +13 skill daggers when i get this baby... been there 10 times so far, havent seen it drop yet... ill be going for my 11th run in 5 min ... wish me luck ^^
Edited, Thu Apr 21 04:10:31 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
yeah the +6 is good and all but have you guys forgotten the 1.3 speed? its not amazing or anything but think of duelweilding a normal speed dagger with this, how fast you would hit, how much casting time u would be inturrupting! also poisons are the only thing that proc straght from how fast you can hit! (enchants do the whole will still proc as much on slowasallhell weapons) slap a instant poison on there and watch how many times itll apply (theres a limit on how many procs on each poison for a reason!) i really dont see a downside at all to this dagger, other than it dosent have +crit :P
评论来自
Allakhazam
what does +daggers do?
评论来自
Allakhazam
finally got one last night, killed princey boy about 6 times so far and this is the first he dropped it for us. Dropped the crossbow at the same time. Nice run.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Currently Have sc set, distracting dagger, Aged core leather gloves and mugger's belt. With combat daggers spec and doing decent dps in MC.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I dunno if I'd call it Godly, but it is definately nice. Would be even better if it had some other stats on it as well.
评论来自
Allakhazam
no
评论来自
Allakhazam
i cant notice too much of difference but i NEVER and will say it again NEVER MISS, even on 'white' damage, i dont miss...
This may be, because i have 2x tarnished rings, the rogue trinket and devilsaur set but oh well =P
+6 adds crit and chance to hit, you will have a serious advantage over a lvl60 with 300 skills, by having 6, 1.1 lvls of dagger above him. THINK BOUT IT
评论来自
Allakhazam
+6? WOW! Godly, nuff said = D
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Allakhazam
Edited, Tue Aug 16 15:02:20 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
MY STORY: lastnight myself (rogue) and 4 others (war, lock, mage, priest) went on a loot/quest run through DM west. All of us are 60s and we still had to use healthstones somewhat often. A lot of mobs can silence your healer... that is a very bad thing so make sure you take a lock and that u have some pots because your gonna want the soulstone and the healthstones. Our priest only used the soulstone twice and once was because no one else could rez so she used it rather than releasing... anyways before we went in i asked if i could have
Bracers of the Eclipse
if they dropped off the Prince and since i was the only leather wearer and they were an upgrade they said sure.
From start to finish it was most definitely a rogues run:
Flamescarred Shoulders
Evil Eye Pendant
(the warrior already had)
Distracting Dagger
and last but definitely not least my
Bracers of the Eclipse
Edited, Sun Nov 20 15:35:15 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
评论来自
Allakhazam
I really wish this wasn't off-hand only, because after patch 1.6 or 1.7 or whatever it was, all the damages for rogue combat abilities were preset and I would SO dual wield these lol. Even with only being able to wield one this is still pimp. ohh well.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Warriors too but would not roll against a rogue ofc, i like to get out a pair of fast weapons for nailing casters and this with my Darrowspike would certainly cause a distraction!
For the record + Daggers is Defence in reverse, thus this gives you +.24% Crit, +.24% Hit and -.24% chance for your opponent to block or parry (if you are using it on casters then that won't be a problem of course).
As the name suggests the speed of the weapon is considered its main selling point, hence few stats.
评论来自
Allakhazam
+6? WOW! Godly, nuff said = D
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this last night, love it. shadowcraft bonus + distracting + the muggers belt i plan i getting = uber dagger skill.
评论来自
Schector
18.89% drop rate... Im going to call horse %^&*. In the last week I have run DMW 26 times and not once has it dropped.
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