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评论来自
mbulmer
While the tooltip makes no mention of this, you will receive the 20 Rage/150 Mana bonus if you achieve a killing blow on an opponent in PvP as well.
评论来自
362
This drops off Ragnaros with a fairly low drop rate. If it does drop, it will drop independent of Rag's normal loot table (meaning you get an extra epic).
评论来自
32
This is a great weapon for a warrior in battlegrounds. This weapon really shines when you have a dedicated healer so you can plow through people without stopping (generating rage each kill).
评论来自
7121
Drops off Ragnaros, and is a pretty great axe overall in pve, and most beneficial in pvp for a warrior, due to +5% axe talent they can spec in.
评论来自
9029
I wouldn't have any other class than a warrior take this, unless the warriors in the raid didn't want it. Why? Simply put, because 150 mana is almost non-existant when compared to 20 rage.
评论来自
8976
I agree here. 20 rage is a lot more than 150 mana. It's best for warriors, if no warriors want it it should go to a paladin then an enchantment shaman.
评论来自
Taiyoumaru
As a paladin I'd like to have it for my greedy little self but if a fury/arms warrior would want it, I'd pass. There's alot of other great 2handers for paladins out there anyway. It looks very good tho. As a paladin I wouldn't just look for raw damage myself as getting items with great dps but otherwise statless isn't as efficient.
评论来自
9029
Ryyz: The damage alone on the weapon makes it ideal for every class that can use it, that and the bonus attack power that it gives.
However, I stick with what I have said. 20 rage for a warrior, according to what I've seen, is equal to basically 2 thirds of a mortal strike, to a revenge, rend, overpower, heroic strike, and so on. I'm not doubting what you're saying though regarding paladins.
And regarding an enhancement shaman, personally I'd prefer something with a proc on it (like Ragnaros's hand, or just about anything with a Chance on hit) and some stats on it. The possibility of having 3 of those procs, okay, 2 of those procs in a row is fun to think of. But hey: high enough damage on a weapon works as well to consider it windfury material.
评论来自
19059
Funny how they think that 150 mana is in some way proportional to 20 rage.
评论来自
1898
Honestly I think this is one of the best procs that has ever been implemented in the game, as far as pvp is concerned. The proc on it for warriors was absolutely insane. I remember running through wsg games and just destroying people with this sick axe.
It was also really insane in low level instances with 54+ mobs (like brd). As it would proc almost every single mob in there, giving you almost infinite rage through out the entire run.
I really wish they would have had implemented a similiar weapon to this in BC.
评论来自
Prestoza
Spinal reaper, Hoo!.... just not the same..
评论来自
switch89a
does the proc apply to killing blows with a ranged weapon?
评论来自
Allakhazam
obviously made for BG rather then TM GANKING
评论来自
Allakhazam
"bubble" is a class skill that is in the pally class itself. If he's in a fight, expect that a person would use all his given abilities.
It's only 12 year old retards who come on here and claim how unfair it is for a paladin to heal themselves or when they use their "bubble".
How about you try fighting a pally without using any of your insta attacks and the pally doesn't use his bubble. The pally would rape you.
given that if both classes use all the abilities on them, the pally is more than capable of winning or losing to an equally equipped warrior.
评论来自
Allakhazam
the best endgame axe ive seen besides PvP axe
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have no experience with abilities that take place 'after killing a target that yields experience'. Only things that relate to this that I can think of are a rogue and warlock talent (can't fully remember their names). ANYWAYS, so does this work after killing in PvP? They don't 'yield' experience but...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Do Hunters actually feel insecure at the thought prim melee classes have better melee weapons than they? Hunters get the epic ranged, for melee they should only ever get thrown the scraps that noone else wants! -- Even a palay deserves better melee than hunter...n thats saying something!
Edited, Wed Sep 21 13:48:30 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Really nice axe. Warrior from my guild got this tonight from rag. First drop for horde on our server i think. Grats to him ^^.
Oh and /lol @ the pally who "owns". Ever tried fighting a *decent* and *well equipped* warrior without using your lolimmune? Or any other class for that matter? No.. i didn't think so.
<3 bubbleboys!
评论来自
Allakhazam
well iam lucky, hordes dosnt have paladins and shamans pve = 1h shield or Finkle's Lava Dredger. simple is that, any guild giving this to a shaman is a morron guild unless every warrior has it or bone... Hunter weapon... ye right. any guild doing ragnaros/BWL wont give you the chance to bid.. stick to your bows imo.
评论来自
Allakhazam
The killing blow effect procs from anything, even if you aren't meleeing with the weapon. Using Judgement of Command, Exorcism, Frost Shock, Whateverthe@#%^ Shock etc will give the 150 mana as long as you were the one that got the killing blow.
As people have said, the 150 mana is no way comparable to 20 rage. 300 mana maybe, but this weapon in my opinion is much more suited for a PvP/Future grinding warrior. This is coming from a paladin that owns the axe.
Also since it hasn't been mentioned, the proc is a green twirl, like the druid regen spell but without the leaves.
Screenshot of the weapon proc;
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/16/spinalreapppppppernh7.jpg
Paladin with Spinal Reaper;
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1856/veolantiepw2.jpg
Edited, Aug 7th 2006 at 6:17am EDT by shiobiki
评论来自
Allakhazam
i dont know whats the fascination about the spinal.... bonereaver is a lot better imo, id save my dkp for that while the other idiots waste their dkp away on the spinal...which what im doing atm. (rag just !@#$ing drop it and stop torturing me you assh*le) spinal not so great for end game stuff imo anyways... 20 rage and 150 mana wont do jack after klling a mob... and im pretty sure (not positive) you need the killing blow. Probably pretty good for pvp and farming crap but still would rather have bonereaver.
评论来自
Allakhazam
POST A PIC.
评论来自
Allakhazam
oh god i hate when people say its for a damn warrrior....Pallies can use this axe as the warrior can....so just stop saying those things plz
评论来自
Allakhazam
20 rage = a fifth of the total rage bar. 150 mana = not all that much.
Also warriors start from 0 rage, which means that it is going to allow them to use an ability they would perhaps not be able to use otherwhise. For a hunter / pally it's not likely it will enable them to use an ability they wouldn't be able to use, but make them regen mana, which is not all that usefull, even if dps is hot for them though..
If I was a hunter, I'd personnally prefer to dual wield
斩骨手斧
with a +15 agi on each or the alterac mace I think.
I agree that for pvping pallies this can be good, but for a warrior it's just insane IMO.
Edited, Mon Sep 5 20:56:02 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Looking at it, this is definitely designed for Hunters
评论来自
Allakhazam
the 150 mana is nothing..the 20 rage is huge... get it guys (warrior weapon)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Quote:the 150 mana is nothing..the 20 rage is huge... get it guys (warrior weapon)
圣光闪现
of Light Rank 6
Heals a friendly target for 343 to 383.
Classes: Paladin
Mana/Energy: 140
光明祝福
of Light Rank 3
Receives up to 400 extra healing from Holy Light spells, and up to 115 extra healing from Flash of Light spells.
神恩术
Favor
When Activated, critical effect chance of next Flash of Light or Holy Light spell is increased by 100%.
150 mana = 478hp. 600 to 700 with Divine Favor. Just imagine getting 478hp each time it procs.
That's exactly how much 150 mana means.
I am a paladin, and you are clearly an idiot. gg
评论来自
Allakhazam
i herd if you get a HK it boosts you also... but the stats dont say so
评论来自
Allakhazam
the proc can be resisted by someone with high nature resist o.O
评论来自
Allakhazam
What are the better weapon : Spinal reaper or Drake talon cleaver?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Actually, the dmg difference won't be too high.
AR:
53.8+(862/14)*3.8 = 438.4
SR:
74.7+(800/14)*3.4 = 448.3
Won't take a genius to see that Arcanite Reaper will work just as fine as this weapon if you got MS build. Also, the more attackpower you have, the less difference will there be in dmg and at some point (around 1800-2000 attackpower), AR will do more dmg.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Im curious to know if the percent that this drops off Rag is truly less than 1%. It seems ridiculous that his random epic drops would have a variance in percent from almost 1% to above 10 and 20% like his other drops. Can anyone whos done this guy many many times confirm/deny that it seems to be his rarest drop? Have you gotten it to drop more than once?
评论来自
Allakhazam
I own both the Arcanite Reaper and this. I can tell you this does more damage then the AR and it hits more often making dmg output huge, also the proc does work in PvP when you kill a 48+ player. It also hurts a lot with +9 dmg.
Hope this clears things up.
Edited, Sun Jun 12 13:21:55 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Definitely a hunter weapon
评论来自
Allakhazam
Passive: Restores 150 mana or 20 rage when you kill a target that gives experience; this effect cannot occur more than once every 10 seconds.
Then its warrior / paladin / shaman, whatever.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I would love to see the WF from this axe.......pwn all
评论来自
Allakhazam
I admit its warriors first here. Hunters no. If no warrior wants/needs then a shaman could make good use of it. Not in PvE though.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Smile
评论来自
Allakhazam
I also have a level 60 paladin and I use a shield in pvp because it helps me stay alive as I try to heal, which paladins and shaman should put as their #1 priority in both pvp and pve where they have no need of a weapon like this. I used to be reckoning spec until I went to ret so I could buff kings. Damage procs synergize much better with reckoning, and you are much better off with either herald of woe for the int, or damage procs like drake talon cleaver or halberd of smiting. No paladin or shaman should be seen with this weapon, 20 rage is much more benefit than 150 mana which is 1 flash of light for paladins and nothing for shaman, 20 rage lets you kill someone with execute then intercept+hamstring your next target for chain killing. I still think the best thing to do is use a shield because healers are such targets and it gives a lot of damage mitigation and lets you block specials like gouge.
评论来自
Allakhazam
They Rreally need to change the ugly look of this.... it isn't looking too special.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Thats not true about the warrior always winning the pala , a level 60 warrior even said to me she gets beat by her mate more often then not (he's a level 60 pala) and like you said you have to have decent skill to get to 60 so dont rush in and say its because she hasnt got skill or whatever, and paladins can beat warriors but then agan warriors can beat paladins niether class will always win the other , that's the way it is...
Oh and as for the weapon.....yeah i would say more of a warrior weapon but whoever can use it and has the chance use it for f**k sake lol , but yeah more of a warrior weapon and for whoever said it looks crap , i myself think it looks pretty mean especially when theres a 60 tauren warrior charging at you with one in his hand's ;)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Good Picture only the Spinal has other colors.
评论来自
Allakhazam
rofl that picture is a arcanite reaper, spinal reaper has other colours, so does nightfall (which is the coolest axe that looks like those)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Had this for quite a while now, and the weapon hits for about 1100 crits, I've had some 800 SoC dmg with it, and exactly 1000 JoC. (Some epics and blues with STR) You need to finish off the enemy for it to proc, but any dmg does the trick.
Zandalar Hero Charm does wonders for the SoC procs on this weapon, but the mana proc might as well not be there... if maybe the 10sec rule wasn't there, it'd be remotely useful, I'd rather see higher mana regen. Oh well.
If I could do it again, I'd get the Bonereaver's Edge, but then again, that never drops... If you want a nice pally weapon, check out Herald of Woe.
This is definately a weapon better suited for warriors, 150 mana is nothing in my 5k mana pool, but 20 rage is 1/5 of full rage, making it more suited for a warrior.
Dev
评论来自
Allakhazam
we downed ragnaros today, and a %^&*ing hunter won it, most retarded thing i have ever seen, the gm should have put a stop to it and the hunter rollin on it must be the most stupid person ever to have played this game, there are green items alot better then this for hunters...
评论来自
Allakhazam
dropped for horde on Ner'zhul... pretty hot (mana = 20 rage instead, for a warrior)
评论来自
Allakhazam
any warrior who would rather have arcanite than this should delete their char and make a preist
评论来自
Allakhazam
Before when i said +9 i meant its still better then Reaper with +9 i have crusader on it aswell shame they nerfed the proc but it makes me laugh when it goes off and people see the huge dmg increase specially when i was enraged and crusaer procced. Scary dmg cant remember exactly how much but it was hell of a lot.
评论来自
Allakhazam
this is more for a warrior...
评论来自
Allakhazam
LOL
Warriors have: Overpower, Mortal Strike, Whirlwind
in pvp u can go combat for charge, switch to beserker, ww, switch back to overpower/ms...COME ON IF U CRIT WITH THIS?
Hunter weapon lol actually its anyone's "weapon" if u can equip a two-handed axe. I'm just saying that the 20 rage is far more useful than 150 mana...and hunter gonna be sniping anyways...but still, I think this is the ulitmate warrior weapon..for hunters, I guess it is if you don't like your bow or gun lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
Yes it works in both PvP and PvE. Making this the BEST 2h for a warrior in PvP. With this weapon a warrior can mess someone up fast with its DPS, then execute and still have 20 rage, and then use that to intercept someone, or w/e...
I play a pally, and I definately think that warriors should dibs on this first.
评论来自
Allakhazam
got a purple glow now
评论来自
Allakhazam
WOOOOOOOOT Hunter weapon ftw!
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http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?431781
Edited, Wed Nov 16 17:10:40 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
yet still..arcanite reaper will do more damage. Sigh...
评论来自
Allakhazam
Stupid Question: Does it yield 20 rage when you hit a killing blow in PVP? The description "when you kill a target that gives exp", so I was curious.
评论来自
Allakhazam
rofl paladin sucks.. as a mage i killed a paladin 1on1 even though she used bubble and healed. rofl n3wbz
评论来自
Allakhazam
Think, if warriors rage was mana we would get 1/5 of it. for pallys thats hlaf of one spell.
Thats almost one MS The bad thing is this is not a sword so you have to go ax spec for it : (
评论来自
Allakhazam
which is better for a warrior SPINAL REAPER or ARCANITE REAPER? plz reply thnx
评论来自
Allakhazam
I just got this last night from raggy and tried it out in AB right after.....I love this axe so much the extra rage in BG is so awsome being arms its pritty hard to get rage....
doing 1.6kMS+ and 1k+ white crits and whirlwinds.....plus the extra 5% crit u get from amrs with axes owns!
So i don't care what anyone says, ya fine i would rather have the bonereaver but i mean the chance of that dropping is slim to none. So im happy with this till i get BWL gear :)
I did have TUF and this owns compared to that!
And this is deffo not a hunter item......34 AP? lol u can get better from greens....plus u would want agility to get the extra crit no?
评论来自
Allakhazam
Why do you say that arcanite reaper will do more damage?
i dont see why it should
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just imagine it, Execute for the kill, get 20 rage back and pick up Bloodthirst, Bloodrage, hit Death Wish, run into a group of players and hit Whirlwind.
If only there were more Fury Warriors out there.
评论来自
Allakhazam
If I had this my reaper would go in the toilet.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is a hunter weapon all the way.....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Ah...kidding, this weapon is insane, I'd never want to go against anyone with this.
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img321.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newbitmapimage28di.jpg
Copy/Paste link ftw
Edited, Tue Jul 12 03:15:18 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
no doubt a hunter weapon. end of discussion.
评论来自
Allakhazam
First of all CG to all who are already wielding this beauty! Ive been saving dkp for the SR already and I believe to
have Hunters and Paladins in my raid who know If would die for it if it drops.
Its cool to finally read some posts that are true and worth reading here....
Talkin about the never ending Hunter Weapon discussion....just go RANGED..you dont have the AC for damn melee fights!
Warriors with good crit & attckpwr equipment and the SR would really unfold this weapons power...one-man-wreckin'-crew...no crap
LOL...If I would see a Hunter of the opposing faction with a SR...I would gank him until he deletes his character :D
greets to all and keep on crushin' Horde
./By the Light of the Moon
Edited, Sun Sep 18 09:36:37 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://hunterweapon.blogspot.com
<- screenshots
Edited, Thu Oct 20 16:16:35 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm gonna roll on this when it drops...unfortunatley we just had Rag drop TWO Nemisis Leggings :(
BTW, I'm a shaman.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just got it 4 my Shaman! eat me :-)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just Recieved this thing on my warrior straight after winning an onslught girdle, it's a MASSIVE upgrade from my Ice Barbed spear which I was using before, it hits very high and the proc is amazing for grinding but it does lack a bit for end game as stated before.
评论来自
Allakhazam
which is better for a warrior SPINAL REAPER or ARCANITE REAPER? plz reply thnx
评论来自
Allakhazam
I rather have a arcanite reaper..much easier to get and the differential damage on this for MS build isn't significant.
Edited, Fri May 6 01:13:24 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Got this on my hunter, works fine for pvp
评论来自
Allakhazam
Is it just me that thinks these people that "claim" an item for a class need to be insta-redirected to thottbot! <-- thats the place for these now beyond-a-joke juvenile comments which only prove that they have no imagination or sense of humour!
If on the other hand they are genuinely trying "claim" these items then surely they are deluded beyond belief, n have no idea how to play their classes or of their role within groups!
And those that the later applies to will
never
ever get a shot at these items neway as they r simply not good enough to ever be a member of a high-lvl dungeon raiding guild which is required to even have a chance at gettin ahold of any of these fine pieces o kit. So therefore posting a comment on the item is the closest contact they are ever going to get!
评论来自
Allakhazam
if this was a BoE i would spend all my time farming the million or so gold it would take to buy one...or maybe i'd kill ragnaros i dunno lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
Another Shaman in my guild got this yesterday, and WF procc'd, he 1 shotted a 60 mage..the 3rd hit from this (the 2nd WF swing) hit him for 2200.
Still....clearly a hunter weapon. lol
评论来自
Allakhazam
because the 150 mana on the kill will fill almost their entire mana pool
评论来自
Allakhazam
double, maybe even triple the mana return, and then it would MAYBE be worth spending DKP on for a pally/shammy. 150 mana = $%^& compared to 20 rage.
评论来自
Allakhazam
does it proc when u kill someone and receive honor? or is it just for pve
评论来自
Allakhazam
Does this proc if you don't get the killing blow? Or does it only proc if you land the blow that kills the mob/player?
Interested in how it works in raids.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Looks exactly like an Arcanite Reaper but with a gold skull and shaft.
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img229.echo.cx/my.php?image=spinalreaper3er.jpg
looks like an AR
(yes this is my screen, I dont have the axe, I just changed my doomsaw model in itemcache.wdb)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just got this axe, and i must say i still have problems breathing, 1 hour later, lol.
Tried it in a duel vs a sword spec MS warr in my guild, that has the typhoon. Had about 30% hp left after both duels, which im crediting mostly to this sick weapon.
Any green and up mob will trigger the proc, and aparently ANY pvp kill will (havent confirmed this myself yet)
评论来自
Allakhazam
After watching that movie with the warrior with this, I can't see how a paladin could bring himself to roll on it. Warriors just seem to have a lot more potention with it. If any paladins care to get one and make a movie proving themselves more worthy, I'd love to see it.
rifk
评论来自
Allakhazam
as the title says, and why the &*!@ is that?
go play a melee shaman, OR ask one if you're too lazy to.
评论来自
Allakhazam
HKs DO proc the weapon, but it's definately prejudiced towards warriors. 1/5th of their rage, while casters (shaman/paladins) only get 150 mana, which would be more around, say...1/20th to 1/40th of our mana pool. An effect giving 2% mana regen for 10 seconds or so during combat would make sense, but 150 mana is barely enough for a single flash heal.
Edited, Thu Dec 22 00:11:01 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
<-- own it
<-- paladin
flame me.
评论来自
Allakhazam
For PVP the Rank 14's are better.
For PVE the Dark Edge of Insanity claims the title of best 2h Axe.
For those of you unfamilliar with it, it drops off the end boss of AQ40.
Dark Edge of Insanity
Binds when picked up
Unique
Two-Hand Axe
256-385 Speed 3.70
(86.6 damage per second)
+35 Strength
+19 Agility
+25 Stamina
Requires Level 60
Chance on hit: Disorient's the target, causing it to wander at 40% move speed confused for up to 3 sec.
In PVP I would really prefer the Rank 14 Axe though.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Rogue weapon...
评论来自
Allakhazam
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1844/spinalreaper5em.th.jpg
i got mine last night
评论来自
Allakhazam
.... and im a pally, and i can grind all day with very little mana + can dps if needed in raids ( and yes to all noobs pallies can dps )and pretty much the only time get beaten in duals with warriors is when you get the innevitable "you cant heal yourself or bubble" >.<
评论来自
Allakhazam
This thing is amazing for a MC drop, the proc is great for mass pvp and it shigh dps.
Not as good as a r14 weapon but great none the less.
评论来自
Allakhazam
i might have to go and @#$% my pants now tbh, thats one bad ass axe tbh
Edited, Thu May 5 11:18:55 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Passive: Restores 150 mana or 20 rage when you kill a target that gives experience; this effect cannot occur more than once every 10 seconds.
When is this going to happen at level 60? :O
评论来自
Allakhazam
response to HazardousPaci:
the ammount of people who had wowreader when they killed ragnaros was skewed. when a SR did drop not many had wowreader therefore it only showed up maybe 5 times. when a weapon drops and say all 40 have wowreader it reads it as 40 of those weapons dropped, therefore skewing the drop %.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Attack Power and slow weapons 4TW!Look at this:
700 Attack Power
The Nicker
159 - 239 Damage Speed 4.00
(49.8 damage per second)
Damage Per Hit:399.2
Blackhand Doomsaw
Dmg: 151-227, Speed: 3.50, DPS: 54.0
Damage Per Hit:364
Spinal Reaper
203-305 DMG, Speed 3.4, DPS 74.7
Damage Per Hit:423.98 (431.8 with attack power bonus)
Arcanite Reaper
153-256 DMG, Speed 3.8, 53.8 DPS
Damage Per Hit:394 (411.3 with attack power bonus)
评论来自
Allakhazam
Curious.. does this proc in PVP? If not I'm going for the Bonreaver's Edge. Cause I don't really remember getting exp. from hordies as they drop around me..
评论来自
Allakhazam
Only way ANYONE ELSE should get to roll on this, is if ALL warriors present have one. Maybe if it restored like... What? 700+ mana to a not-so-noob paladin, then yes, it would be a good pally/shaman weapon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I have not been to MC yet... but i'm going soon... and the raid i'm going with dosen't care about DKP... because they run it for fun, and don't care what you want... so i'd snatch this if it drops... it's like a purplish style of the Arcanite Reaper.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This thing is absurd. A decent (and decently geared) warrior will always have the most killing blows in BGs thanks to execute (and plain old burst damage). For those that don't know, execute is the ability that drains our rage to do lots of damage against an enemy with under 20% health.
So the 20 rage upon KB is just sick - I'd take this over Ashkandi or the GM weapons in a heartbeat. The 150 mana is laughable in comparison.
Also occured to me that not everyone knows that our rage bars max out at 100. I'd like to say that this makes the equivalent mana regen 800 or something, but it's probably a /little/ lower than that. :)
Edited, Jul 12th 2006 at 2:31am EDT by VisDDS
评论来自
Allakhazam
This baby dropped last night, I wanted it but a pali got it instead
I have arcanite reaper but this is such an upgrade.
Has only dropped about 3times in the many times ive done rag on all my characters
评论来自
Allakhazam
Paladins:- yes u are a melee class but only a 2ndary DPS class & 2ndary healer! Surely u must realise that in any proper guild there are class bidding lists for loot of this calibre, n guess who gets it first....
I think u all have to stop being so selfish n look at the bigger picture (and i'm talking raid groups here, solo or pvp is irrelevent), this goes to DPS warriors first n foremost. 20 rage vs 150 mana! only if all dps warriors in the guild ever have this, then n only then should or could a palay even expect to bid for this.
Palays should aim for the lava-dredger or OEB etc., less dps warrior competition for these as the Arms talents on maces or swords don't give +5% crit.
Edited, Wed Sep 21 13:51:21 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
Do warriors use 2-handers in MC raids?
评论来自
Allakhazam
bah, double post
Edited, Tue Oct 4 21:49:56 2005
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Allakhazam
This weapon is totally a warrior weapon. 20 rage is alot more important then 130 mana.
Warriors get dibs on this
THIS WEP KICKS ASS!
评论来自
Allakhazam
With 1000 AR, this will do 21 more damage than AR on a MS, and its proc is godly.
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Allakhazam
the best thing is everyone will still think it is an AR until they notice the red handle after awhile.
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Allakhazam
It dropped the other day, had been saving DKP for 2 months for it.
too bad i got auto-released after 6 min, right before the killing blow..
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Allakhazam
I defiantly Have to get this weapon, it would be killer
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Allakhazam
Our MT named Mokdar got this on our first ragnaros kill
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Allakhazam
Rogue weapon...
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Allakhazam
Finally a weapon that hunters cant claim ownership to, unless u are actually too stupid to say "LolZButWeneEdThEManA", then grit ur *!@#ing teeth and never ever look at this weapon with that glint in your eye, and no this weapon still doesnt give u the rights to roll on other weapons cause u think all warriors will get this....
WARRIOR OR PALADIN ONLY!
Try argue that
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Allakhazam
You guys can argue all you want, I picked up one of these myself a few weeks ago:
http://img201.echo.cx/img201/4863/spinal3os.jpg
The damage has skyrocketed, and the over normal damage (taking into account the DPS and attack speed) is MUCH higher. I've had crits as high as 2300 on cloth with enrage/crusader on a MS.. can't wait to complete my Sulfuras. <3
It procs in PvP when you get the killing blow ANY player, not just 48+, whoever posted down there is wrong. All levels, including level 1's will result in the +20 rage proc, just like bloodthirst in the rage tree.
And also, you're a fool if you put +9 damage over crusader on Spinal.
Edited, Fri Jun 17 02:44:36 2005
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Allakhazam
this is only warrior weapon, and you all know about it so stop your stupid jokes about hunters ana palas;)
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Allakhazam
Stupid item lol at lvl 60 we dont get exp >_>
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Allakhazam
Id say,a warrior should go for bonereaver's edge, because it has better stats, plus swordspecc is nice, dont you agree? otherwise, sure this on a orc warrior would be nice (305/305 axe skill) you would hit a nice with some plus hit too, so its just a matter of what you think would fit your race best.
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Allakhazam
Have you guys ever considered that *maybe* your attack power adds a lot more damage to slow weapons than fast weapons? Uh huh...yep!
It is a retarded system that blizzard should get their asses in gear for to fix it asap.
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Allakhazam
Isn't it funny how many people are ignorant as to how attack power functions related to weapon speed? I will break it down.
14 attack power yields 1 dps with any weapon. In order to gain 1 dps with a 3.4 speed weapon, how much damage do I have to add? You guessed it! 3.4 damage. Now, with a 3.8 speed weapon, how much damage does it take to gain the same amount of dps. Yep, that's right, 3.8 damage.
800 base attack power / 14 = amount of dps added to your attack. Multiply this by weapon speed and add it to the mins and maximums of your weapon, apply any weapon masteries, and you have your damage range.
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Allakhazam
I have an enhance sham and plan on speccing survival on my hunt in 1.7 this would be an awesome weapon for either of them.
PS meleeing down a war on my hunter is fun - gnomish shrink ray ftw
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Allakhazam
WHOA WHOA WHOA! Not a "hunter" definate weapon. The +36 attack power? Yeah thanks have a +32 in my offhand right now bought on the AH for 4g. Main hand is bone slicing hatchet with a +15 agi enchant. = 28 agi = 56 RAP Can't wait to get another but for now just gonna have to settle with my extra 88 Ap.
Definately for Wars first, pally's second, and hunters a distant third. It's good for PvP for a hunter and that's about all.
评论来自
Allakhazam
This weapon is for all who can wear it and nothing what you say here can change that...
Warrior/Pally/Shaman
Who cares if its a mana user or not damn
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Allakhazam
Just won these and onslaught girdle on our first Raggie kill with Enigma guild on Doomhammer EU... i was the only DPS warrior on the raid, MAN IM SOOOO HAPPY
ill tell ya... it hurts like a !@#$%y-&*!@#!
Nayrufael
BTW first one at alliance on our server to get it!
Edited, Mon Mar 13 18:08:16 2006
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Allakhazam
hehe, i got this thing last night and man was it ever crazy. After only 1 attempt on rag a few nights previous we took him down (first time downing even after 2 sons. i am just stoked. BTW, what chant should i put on it, im debating either Crusader or Agility
-Sarameth 60 warrior Stormscale
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Allakhazam
i just got this on my pallie last night and i got to say it hits for A TON awsome with SoC and ihope to use this with reck if i respec no matter what you are if you can get this its worth it
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Allakhazam
As soon as I see a warrior weilding this I'm running the other way. Ouch.
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Allakhazam
yet still..arcanite reaper will do more damage. Sigh...
there is always going to be a foolish sect of the community who cannot figure out that max damage on arc reaper is much lower than 305. These people look at 3.4 delay and think 3.8 delay on reaper and automatically assume that the 3.8 delay is more damage. just laugh at them and move on.
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Allakhazam
You guys are missing 1 big thing: Being a warrior is NOT just Mortal Striking. During the times you DONT Mortal Strike you make FAR more damage with this than Arcanite Reaper. I'd have this over AR any day.
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Allakhazam
Hey all im a pally and about 75% of the time i own horde warriors.. that 25% well they have some help(priests)..anyways.. i have OEB and with SoC can one shot caster and 2 shot rogues.. anywho.. i cant wait to get my hands on this axe.. +40 or so more Top end damage than the OEB equals pretty much death to what ever i hit with SoC proc.. so i can put this to jsut as much use as any warrior.. Always in top 15 DPS for MC and Onyxia..so lets not say that pallys dont deserve this axe.. cause a pally with this axe fights a warior with it.. odds are pally gonna come out on top.. if hes not a noob and knows how to pvp and play his class.. thanks very much.. have a good day!
Edited, Fri Nov 11 20:06:40 2005
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got this on my pally the other night. It hits like a truck =D
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm a gnome and its bigger than me.
I'm ready to beat your face in. :)
I got really lucky though, won it by .03 DKP.
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Allakhazam
I have an Arcanite Reaper and it looks EXACTLY the same as the picture posted here. Either Blizzard is lacking inspiration, or this is a wrong picture.
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Allakhazam
Melkoir was a young warrior. A naive warrior. Melkoir had an Ice Barbed Spear and had been saving his DKP for any epic two hander to drop out of MC. He would have been content with any two hander, (not earthshaker or vendorstrike lol). In fact he was hoping for an OEB. Instead nothing dropped. That is until their his guilds first Ragnaros kill. The "mighty" Spinal Reaper dropped, much to Melkoir's glee. And for a time it was good. In pvp the axe hit very hard for the time period it dropped. It was no Ashkandi, or Rank 14 weapon, but it hit harder than every blue out there. Melkoir was content, that is until he noticed all the other good two handers that were out there that were superior for pve damage. But alas, his guild would not allow him to loot these weapons because said guild foolishly thought that the Reaper was the best thing since sliced bread. I mean, who wouldnt with its....34 attack power and...completely useless --in pve-- proc?
One by one, month by month, Melkoir was not allowed to bid on any other two handers. Zinrokh was given to paladins and hunters (over other warriors lol), two Bone Reaver's Edges were given to other warrior's (neither of which stuck around) and the Untamed Blade was defaulted to a warrior that could hardly manage to even key turn. Said warrior quit the game 3 days later actually.
Melkoir was sad, but there was hope, for he was a front runner for an Ashkandi if one would drop....However, none ever did. The guild eventually fell apart and Melkoir, now bitter and hateful towards this axe, transfered to the worst server in the world (Twisting Nether US) to play with family. His curse never ended. Once there, he never saw another two hander drop, for years he was stuck with this axe. It was not until BC hit that Melkoir was graced with something other than this old tired axe. And it was the most refreshing sensation he had experienced in a long long while.
TLDR: Spinal Reaper is bad for pve, it has minimal dps stats, and a completely useless proc. BoneReaver's is better in every aspect. As is OeB due to the (at the time) weapons skill. The raw AP on Zinrokh in addition to being a sword (spec) is superior as well, as are just about every 2 hander in BWL.
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Allakhazam
i dont see how AR could outdamage this.. if it does than its a bug, higher min and max says it all
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Allakhazam
spinal reaper is all around better. it would take an unobtainable amount of AP for th AR to catch it and the killing blow proc sounds pretty cool.
i want to know if the killing blow proc as an animation like bloodthirst or something?
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Allakhazam
How do I make a character profile.. like dustwomen!
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Allakhazam
here is a pic
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1386/mee4zi.jpg
enjoy
Edited, Wed Sep 7 09:53:39 2005
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Allakhazam
hate to say this, but thats a pretty damn good hunter weapon
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Allakhazam
I am a 60 warrior with this, my primary job is dps and tanking in the encounters that require large amounts of tanks(basically 2 things in bwl). I am usually #1-3 on chromaggus and firemaw, #1 nef phase 1, and keep up with the mages/rogues on ebonroc and flamegor. Any shaman/paladin taking this over a dps warrior should lose their raid spot for doing something so selfish. There is a shaman on my server with spinal reaper drake talon cleaver and they sit in his bank because he uses herald of woe, we laugh at that guild a lot.
Edited, Tue Jan 3 01:18:39 2006
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Allakhazam
we gave this to a hunter
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Allakhazam
I've only had mine for a week, but it looks like it procs only on a killing blow, not if you just contribute to the kill.
It does work for PvE, as well as PvP. Nice little rejuvenation effect when it procs too :)
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Allakhazam
good god, seeing all of you fighting over wich class is better.. just shut the hell up. it all depends on skill. any class can kill any other class if the player knows what he's doing. every class has their own advantages to sneak into another class' disadvantage to make the battle fair. so all you morons calling others noobs because "pallys are better than warriors" or vice versa.. youre a total and utter noob yourself for thinking it relies on the class. so, do every other WoW player a favor, and reroll. ffs this is getting annoying. a pally vs warrior debate in every comments forms
if it gives mana, its good for pally, if it gives rage, its good for warrior.
im a warrior myself, and to all who say 20 rage isnt useful enough.. youre an idiot and dont know wtf youre talking about. i dont know if 150 mana is good for a pally, so wont comment on that, but i do know that 20 rage is much than enough to finish off a couple of other high level mobs. is it clear now to all you ignorant fools?
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Allakhazam
i love my spinal in pvp!
in duels the proc is useless... but in the situation im in ... which is AB and WSG mostly... after i finish someone off i can quickly intercept or charge with added rage and MS right away... or ill kill someone and then WW ... the 20 rage is useful
not to mention its a nice slow 2 hander with a 305 end dmg that crits very nicely... ive gotten 1000+ white dmg and 1600+ MS crits HS Crits land somewhere inbetween!
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Allakhazam
oooh Adeak please make another movie when you are using Spinal Reaper :) just loved your previous movies!
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Allakhazam
epixx, hunter weapon - i would defenently bid for it plx
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Allakhazam
Yeah this was deffinatly deemed a warrior weapon by our raid guild. 20 rage is a no brainer.
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Allakhazam
This is a Warrior weapon.
20 rage
highest weapon damage so far, Mortal Strike is based on Weapon damage.
hunter axe? ohh, 34+ attack power, HEY! you guys need RANGED attack power?
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Allakhazam
this is all i think...
http://www.guildvsguild.com/nuke/modules.php?set_albumName=GvG-Wall-of-Shame&id=PaladinUI&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
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Allakhazam
got this and crown of destruction on our second raggy kill :O
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Allakhazam
my shammy got it just becuz i cant really get anything better till i hit High warlord which will be another 10months of pvp =I
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effyouzion
Underrated PvP weapon for warriors.
Normally, using Execute to kill someone leaves you with 0 rage, which is not worth it in large-scale fights where you have multiple targets to kill... but the proc on this weapon will leave you with 20 rage after killing someone with Execute, effectively allowing you to use one of your strongest abilities.
Bonereaver's Edge
gets all the hype because it has a proc that makes you hit harder. But this weapon is equally good, IMO. I actually prefer Spinal Reaper on an orc because they get +5 weapon skill with axes.
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