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rejemy1017
These are the Dungeon Set 1 (Tier 0) legplates designed for Warriors.
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Thottbot
I did like 3 successfully runs of Strat so far, i passed the gauntlets the 1st time, because some warrior asked me too, more like begged, and we agreed before the raid that if the gauntlets dropped, he'd get it, but i'd have the leggings if they dropped because he already had well, it dropped, both in the 1st run, during the second run, same thing, both dropped, i got the gauntlet and we shard it the leggings, gotta keep in mind it was one run after the other, next day i did another run, gauntlets dropped, we shard it.
btw, i'm usually a very unlucky person, my rolls on those and a 31dps crossbow were 4, 7 and 1, so i don't think the drop rate is that low.
评论来自
Thottbot
The day I got to lvl 58 I went to Stratholme and did 2 runs looking for Valor. First run: No gauntlets or Leggings. 2nd run: No gauntlets but the leggings actually dropped and I won, being the only warrior.
Also, he is right. Just because a pally can use Valor, that doesn't mean they should roll on it. Would you like it if we rolled on Lightforge because we want intel to help us lvl weapon skills? pfft
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Thottbot
Look at the stats on these. A mere 4 spirit. Wow that'll make a whole lot of difference to you won't it. No.
Main 3 stats on the whole set are +str +sta +agi with some crap amount of spirit and because of that tiny bit of spirit is there it is yours? Go get Lightforge if you want the spirit but leave valor to warriors.
You want these legs so bad, roll a warrior
And oh yeah, lose the caps and learn how to speak dip$%^&
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Thottbot
Couldnt have said it better Kenneh!
Amazing how dumb people can be:)
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Thottbot
Look at the test realms.....hmmmm i wonder why the warriors have the valor set and the pallys have LF.......THINK ABOUT IT.
评论来自
Thottbot
Also as commented earlier this said has absolutely no intellect. No intellect means you have a piss poor mana pool, therefore making you pretty damn useless.
This armour is clearly for tanks and I'm not going into the debate as to whether or not pallas are better tanks because anyone with a braincell or 2 can figure that one out.
Stick to your job as secondary healer, secondary tank and get your own "All round" set.
评论来自
Thottbot
Ha im glad that im horde so that pallys dont even get a chance to take this away from me.
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Thottbot
I'm sorry, but most paladins are just wanna be warriors, who don't tank and can do mere heals.. don't get me wrong, I know some paladins who actually know what they are doing, but only just a few, most of them think they can tank and hold huge aggro, and are ret spec'ed.... rediculous, bliz made armor sets for individual classes for a reason... think about it, leave lightforge to pallies... and valor to us
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Thottbot
Ive never been in a raid instance before, but my guild invited me for a UD strat run. My lvl 55 warrior was 9th of 10 in damage, only beating the priest. At the end, Leggings dropped, there were 3 warriors, one already had the, so it was between me and the the DPS warrior, I won with a 99 roll =). I felt kinda bad taking them from a lvl 60, but he was cool with it, he like his leggings more. So now i have to get to 56 to wear them, kinda nice start on the set to get the hardest piece.
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Thottbot
first off i'm a pally and i do have the valor helm and breastplate, only because the warriors with me told me to roll on it because was better than what i was wearing at the time and no one needed it.
second paladins aren't tanks. they are off tanks/ secondary healers/ and cleansers. that all paladins are and that's all we're good for. i know we can't lay down the dps of a rogue, hunter, or a mage, i can't heal as good as a priest or druid. and i sure as hell can't hold agro as well as a warrior. i'm there to buff and help everyone else.
third. for every good paladin you find there are 10 bad paladins. the two most common are the "self-healing warriors" and the "priest in
plate" sub types. the problem with this is mana vs. hp. for a paladin to be good he needs both to be about the same(for some instants hp over mana and vice versa) on average my hp is around 5400 and my mana is at 4900, on the raid i go on with my guild the MT has over 8500hp and the priest has over 9k mana, there is no way a paladin can compeat with this unless he's doing something wrong. for all you paladins that don't know your roll STFU and stop trying to be something your not!
finally allance can't do MC without paladins. every class has a very important roll. warriors tank, mages/rogues/hunters are DPS, priests and druids are healers, warlocks are for soulstones and debuffs, and paladins are for cleanse back up healing and dps and divine intervention if needed.
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Thottbot
Lahdedah... I was just passin by and seen this Dumbass Pally in ALL caps, sayin the Valor was made for them... what an idiot, Every GOOD player knows that Valor is specificly made for Warriors, not paladins, it just wouldnt be fair ya know? and the imperail plate is made for both, but favors warriors, heh just wanted to make my statement, i'll be off now
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Warrior-56-Dethecus
Name: Kerlae
(if your on the dethecus server, look me up if you agree heh)
评论来自
Thottbot
While I agree with some of what the above poster said... There are better belts than Omokk's...
And not everyone wants to PvP, otherwise we'd have tons of people with great gear.
评论来自
Thottbot
I see a lot of paladins rolling on valor. But dont you think that if there is a warrior in your group that needs that piece you should pass out of courtesy? It is his or her CLASS piece. Lightforge sucks? REROLL ^&*!@! Dont go ganking someone elses piece of a set just cause you can use it. I mean yall pallys are a integral part of any good group. But rolling on Valor Pfft! CLASS stays in CLASS unless not neeeded. Get a life, Get a brain and stop rolling on Valor. Its a damn shame to see a Pally with full Lightforge rolling for some Valor just cause he THINKS it is better. Pallys are way to greedy in my opinion if you are gonna roll on Valor. WAY! I got ganked from so many pallys. I dont hate em... I just think they need to think about other people more often. Warriors need Valor more than you do. PERIOD!
评论来自
Thottbot
Why do you complain about pallys?
Play horde....there aint no newbish pallys
(yeah, paladin is a newb-class!)
评论来自
Thottbot
I hate wannabe tanks, so Pallies stick to LF.
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Thottbot
Uff... Se the same retards pallys here.. Still glad im on Hord Team. I suppose there is no reason for a pally to dont roll on any Valor items, but to do that when in team with a warrior that needs it? L.O.L
I see that not all pallys are like that, but that some are like that is a shame. They destroy for other pallys that do the right thing. NOT rolling on Valor when in team with a warrior that needs it. I have now 40 Stratholme Barons runs, and i havent seen them drop once. SO if i was an Ally warrior, and it droped by 41` run and a pally outrolled me on it.. well.. enough said about what i would like to do then.
评论来自
Thottbot
Warriors get Valor and Paladins get Lightforge. stupid paladins. the reason lightforge has int buff is for paladin and valor is for warriors. and warriors arn't like hunters because they get plate. and only one other one does which is paly. which suck neway. and if the armor doesn't give int or magic stuff, ITS FOR A WARRIOR
评论来自
Thottbot
valor for warriors
lightforge for pallies
go put on your ronald mcdonald LF helm and cure some diseases.
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Thottbot
Paladins who roll need against warriors for valor have only proven to us and to everybody else on this topic they they have been sorely neglected by blizzard since they need 2 separate armour sets. Since they state that defensive pala needs Valor, and holy pala needs Lightforge, they have confessed without a shadow of a doubt that they are outcasts in the world of warcraft since Blizzard saw fit to leave them lost and confused in the wilderness that is Armour Sets. Warriors on the other hand are never confused about what they want and need....VALOR!. So my final conclusion is this: Evertime I see a paladin even hinting at needing valor, it further sets in concrete my suspicions that perhaps Blizzard have not given as much time and thought to paladins as what we all thought, and that they truly are a bastard class...without plate they can call their own...forever banished to pick up the scraps of plate left behind by warriors. If you are a paladin and you have even once ounce of dignity and respect for all the other paladins on your server, then dont roll need on valor if a warrior needs it. You have noooo idea how bad it looks when you roll need against warriors.
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Thottbot
I swear to god....i have been to baron so many times, perhaps 40, attempting to get my class warrior set to last me for MC....and I have only seen them drop perhaps once, then finally today I had them drop. I am ML, and I let this one warrior come on the sole basis that he swore up and down that he didn't need valor, didn't want valor, and would pass gladly. I warned him that I am desperate for the piece and would rather be the only warrior, not out of greed, but just truth. And so of course, as fate would dictate, without fail the pants dropped and he made a giant case for the raid why he needed them and why he should roll, all the while whispering me bribes to get me not to roll. He rolled and won...I have never been so mad at a raid in my life. I know it's just a game, but people's dishonesty is disgusting. I am fuming. I can't bring myself to raid that place another 40 times hoping to see them again. *sigh*
评论来自
Thottbot
Your post cought my eye, so I would like to say my two cents of the argument. I am a warrior, I don�t really like dps paladins, and none the less I would like to keep this as civil as possible.
�First, most warriors are decent people, and I acknowledge that here and now, but a Character Class does not define the player, but certain posters, most notably Je1f288, do not understand this premise, and need to finish primary school!
Je1f288, I laughed so long and hard at you stupid remarks about Paladins being an �Easy Mode� and that Warriors deserve first pick, that I REALLY DID fall off my chair laughing at you and all you stand for (not that it�s much, mind you) you should be a jester, it suits you. �
First off I agree, Warriors I know this is a touchy subject but please calm down, you are only making the rest of us look like ^&*!@#bags by spamming full caps about paladins.
� You do as you are told like a good boy and run up to the enemy and hit them, because that�s all you are useful for. If you are a nice boy, which I doubt seriously, the party�s Priests and PALADINS might think you are worth a little bit of mana and bestow their blessings on you, and you�re a little jealous (not that you�d admit it, but you are), but happy that you are better at killing things, this is called TEAMWORK. It is in the dictionary. Paladins are your friends, not something to blame for your own issues.
Basically, what I�m trying to hammer home is that your ignorance is matched only by your arrogance, Paladins have been nerfed to the point where they are barely playable, and you still complain and hate everything that isn�t you. Historically, Paladins are SUPPOSED to be better than everyday warriors, but that would be unfair, so Blizzard toned down the abilities of the class when translating the Paladin from Warcraft3, and into WoW, to make them fairer (which is absolutely fine), and then after making them fairer, they beat them with a big nerf bat for good measure, and after all this, we still kick arse because we have to now).�
Ok, here we go. First off I am going to agree. Us warriors need paladins, and paladins need us warriors. There is no me in this game, we all need to work together. (might I add MC would be VERY hard w/o paladins buffs and FR aura wich I thank god you guys have) but my friend, you basically went onto the warriors side when you said this, because you are right, we need your guys healing. The fact of the matter is you are saying this in a forum that is saying paladins don�t deserve a warriors set for DPS. So you are right, we need your heals and buffs, and without a good pool of mana it wouldn�t be possible. May I point you in a good place to start � LIGHTFORGE. And maybe when you do that, and get in a good guild (this assuming you aren�t in one already) maybe you can go on to your tier 1 and 2 sets.
� If those of you who play warriors for the wrong reasons can�t keep your jealousy or your prejudice in check, don�t renew your subscription, you will be doing us all a favor. In fact, �It would make the world a better place� (Don�t worry, you said that one, not me). Your BS attitude doesn�t belong in the 21st century.
Paladins have equal rights to anything they can use, just like everyone else, if it wasn�t useful to us, we wouldn�t want it now would we? Now, if you don�t like it, that�s your problem for being immature.�
Ok, basically, what im saying is I understand that paladins can use this set. And accordingly, just because its useable don�t mean they NEED it. What I think is that, if paladins would show a little respect and let us get first priority on out tier 1, we may actually show some back and not care that you are going to roll on what we don�t need. On a side note, im not happy with the way it normally works, and calling someone Immature after such comments as �You do as you are told like a good boy�, �
because that�s all you are useful for�, �Priests and PALADINS might think you are worth a little bit of mana� (you see where im going with this) then you are really no more mature then they are.
� You ask what �The Solution� is? I�ll tell you, Go to your room and leave us adults to play.�
As for that... look at my last comment�
Thanks,
Mellindris
评论来自
Thottbot
I'm so glad i play Horde, this is never a problem.
But could someone tell me who drops the legs since the 1.10 patch please?
评论来自
Thottbot
Do they still drop off the baron after the patch?
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Thottbot
Right, I'm seeing a lot of 'Pally keeps rolling on my Valor' posts, and have come to a clear conclusion:
I agree that every member of the group deserves to roll on anything that drops as they have all achieved that drop equally. Aside from type, items are items. Now the reason it is rare for a Mage/Lock etc. to roll 'Need' on (for example) a piece of valor is purely out of courtesy - they see a class that would benefit more from that item than them and they pass.
Therefore, a pally rolling on warrior gear (thats right noobs, WARRIOR gear) against a fellow warrior, shows that he has NO courtesy and is, scientifically, a twat.
It is precisely this reason why warriors ninja-ing Lightforge are rare (warriors see that a pally would benefit more from the spirit and intellect and so they pass).
Pally rolling against warrior for Valor = Learn2Play
Now flame me!
评论来自
Thottbot
I play a Paladin on Rexxar (Thundar) and to even think on rolling on these is pure madness, first off if you are just starting to get your own set, Which is LIGHTFORGE people not VALOR!, make a BRD run and grab the Legplates of the Eternal Gaurdian, if your desprate. Because your gonna run Baron 9 bajilion time for the Lightforge leggings anyways. So for future note to Warriors and Paladins Alike, VALOR=Warrior and LIGHTFORGE=Paladin plan and simple, even if you are a Ret. Pally which is dumb anyways, know your class people (healer in Plate and Off tank)!
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Thottbot
This pally/War mudslinging has got to stop. I'm going to try to be as nice as possiable guys so listen.
first off Blizz made the dungon sets so that you wouldn't have trash when you first went into a raid.
second they also made sets specific to each class. for example War=Valor Pally=Lightforge.
Now I am a warrior on allience side and can honestly say I am very thankful for the buffs pallys give us. But pallys I ahve news for you. you are not the main tanks. That is our job and valor is a great set to help us, and lightforge is perfect for you guys to back us up. For the most part i get along well with pallys and other wars and we do our job TOGETHER thats called TEAMWORK.
Now when i start running strat for these things I would say that if these dropped off barron then I would most definately need them.
If a pally was there aswell I would probably not go along with him rolling simply because of the lack of int and the fact that this is built for a war.
For the pallys out there i can see you rolling if the war in the group already has these or somthing better but please if the war has junk and is working on his/her valor sets. pass and let us roll so we can get the set made for us. I can also garentee that eveyone in the group will have a higher respect for you.
On a last note. I would never roll on lightforge because I see it as being built for you pallys out there and I think that it would benifit you the most.
Thanks for listening
-Catmoon Female Nightelf, warrior lvl55
Durotan Server.
评论来自
Thottbot
With Burning Crusade, the Alliance gets some long awaited retribution...not only will Horde warriors have to contend with Pallys stealing their Valor pieces they will also get to know the "fun" of dealing with overpowered Shaman :)
Sweet vengeance is ours!
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Thottbot
Let's put it this way: On the WoW homepage Valor is a warrior set and lightforge is a pally set.. THATS IT, END OF STORY!
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Thottbot
/doh
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Thottbot
I'm on my tier 0.5 Quest.
Only need pants to complete this part...Ran strat baron over 30 times I think so far. Never seen em drop. I seen:
3 shadowcraft pants
5 Druid pants
3 mage pants
2 warlock pants
2 Pally pants (We're horde...)
4 shaman pants
2 priest pants
3 hunter pants.
0 warrior pants
So overall all classes is pretty much the same so farm...except the warrior. So thanks blizzard. I hate you from the bottom of my heart!
评论来自
Thottbot
do u have to do a quest to get this first?
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Thottbot
Ok well, i have a 58 paladin on the Darrowmere server, Cptasparagus and i just wanna say this to all the warriors out there that say we have no use for valor... Lightforge is for holy paladins, about 75% of us are holy, and they have no reason to get valor gear over lightforge. BUT i am a prot AoE tank pally. I am the best tank on my server of my level (7500 armor and great stats) and people know me and request me to do scholo and brd and stuff like that because noone else on the server 60- can tank better than me. Prot paladins are not off-tanks, they are some of the best tanks out there. If you are not a sheild-using warrior that is a full tank specced in whatever tank spec warriors have(i havent made a warrior yet) then i would agree that u have an equal right to the armor, but if you dual weild and refuse to buy a sheild and tank (i know warriors who do this) you have as little use for valor gear as a holy paladin... This gear should not be fought over between classes, but between tanks and healers/dps. only tanks need this gear and anyone who says a paladin isnt a tank can shove it. Our prot skills are built for taking damage and dishing it back out, jus like a warrior tank and if you say we are only for off-tanking I CHALLENGE U TO A TANK OFF B****!
评论来自
Allakhazam
Legs - 2 Strat runs
Shoulders - 1 UBRS run
Helm - 2 Scholo runs
I guess I am lucky?
Now I just need boots and chest :]
评论来自
Allakhazam
and nothing.
At least the glooves dropped.
i could even do more 2 sucesfull 45 min run, but i cant get Valor from Baron
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dropped for me after like the 2nd time actually taking the baron down had a 60 pally 60 rogue 60 warrior(me) 60 mage and a 57 priest we took him down easily. now just for that breastplate :(
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just did my first Strat run ever tonight. Two other warriors in the group.
Made it to the baron and they dropped, I was stoped and then figured I had to out roll two other people and I had been rolling like crap all night.
Roll, BADDA BING! BADDA BOOM! My first Valor set piece =D
I actually got up out of my seat and screamed 'WOO HOO!'
评论来自
Allakhazam
I got these AND the gauntlets in the same night. Yay for running with MC-geared people!
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Allakhazam
friggin legpants wont drop for me.
already did the 45 min run and all i need are the legpants.
been doing runs for weeks and it wont drop.
EXTREMELY ANNOYING
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dam right its a rare drop, ive been doin this instance for months and its still never droped.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Just dropped!
Along with cloth mantle and the weapon (mace, polearm, i dont know for sure)!
评论来自
Allakhazam
been running for about a month, still no drop, same with valor chest(form ubrs) its a @#$%^
评论来自
Allakhazam
I've done maybe, what, 20 runs now? Have _never_ gotten these.
It's the only thing I need to upgrade to heroism, quite annoying..
评论来自
Allakhazam
Drop ffs..
Tke leggins are the hardest, all the other Valor items dropped first time on the boss/instance, besides the boots.. they dropped on the 25th Scholo run, with a Very crappy group=..
Not looking forward to grinding Strat xxx times to get the Leggins=( (^&*!ing Heroism set)
Btw if anyone needs the 45min Baron run u chould try to visit this one;
http://www.the-pact.net/showthread.php?p=1403#post1403
, It works....
评论来自
Allakhazam
I won these leggings in Stratholme 59 to 55 against another warrior, but they didn't appear in my backpack!
评论来自
Allakhazam
I am do baron 38 times so still never see drop it.
评论来自
Allakhazam
these wont drop for me, and now that its 5 man raids only, half my groups dont even make it here.
i have 6/8 valor
need these and boots
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dropped last night. Needless to say the warrior in the group, a fresh recruit on her first guild-run to the Baron, was very pleased :)
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Allakhazam
This never drops. I've killed the Baron nine times now and I still haven't gotten anything. I've seen him drop every tier 0 leg piece, except for Valor. So here's my story, I started collecting tier 0 about a week ago. I went into Scholo for the first time and to my amazement, I got the helmet and boots on the first run! So I started going to UD Strat, and after nine runs I still haven't gotten the valor legs. I didn't want to do this, but I quit. This is just too frusturating and rediculous in my oppinion, I shouldn't have to kill this guy so many times until I finally get what I'm looking for. Why can't he drop two tier 0 legs everytime he dies? This isn't fun, it's not challenging, it's just really annoying. Why the hell does TIER 0 have to be such a hassle to get? Can't they just make this a little easier to get? Oh well, TBC is out soon and now pretty much all tier 0-3 is going to be worthless anyway. I just really wish I could've gotten a full set of tier 0. To be honest, I think maybe I could've gotten these if I ran UD Strat 3-5 more times, but I really don't feel like torturing myself like that. I hate UD Strat so much, it's frusturating and just plain boring in my oppinion, and I have to go all the way to the last boss only to find out that he won't drop what I'm looking for.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Dropped from baron and i was onlyone who needed. Its a quite rare dropp.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Lol dropped on my first run ever to strat, had another warrior in party and we rolled for it, and i got 2 numbers over him. ^^
评论来自
Allakhazam
they never drops.. mean it.. been here like 100 times now.. never drops... hate it so mutch.. but maybe they drop next time:) doubt it, bu maybe:)
评论来自
Allakhazam
This is retarded.
Now that blizzard made Strat 5 man, half of my groups either dont reach baron or we cant take him down, most of the time its becuase of some noob preist or a pallidan. Learn2play idiots.
评论来自
Allakhazam
got mine last night it was sweet :)
评论来自
Allakhazam
u were the only one who needed? your a mage, sounds like a ninja looter to me:)
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Allakhazam
2nd kill of the Baron last night and they dropped. No pallies or other warriors in sight and I now have them equipped. However, Sunday morning I picked up the plans for Enchanted Thorium Leggings.....So what do I do? It's going to cost an arm and a leg and eat into my epic mount fund for the 10 archanite bars. I already have the Deathbone Guardian chest piece with +17 def....should I even go for the Valor chest? I suppose situationally, but as a main tank/prot spec, def and resistances are king. hmmmm.....
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Allakhazam
Going on my 25th UD Strat run right now, I've seen Valor drop at least 12-13 times, and Lightforge at least 5-6. I've never seen my Wildheart Kilt, and I saw Magisters drop for the first time today.
Ugh. Annoying.
评论来自
Allakhazam
these have
never i repeat
never dropped for me. im hopin they will drop for me this weekend.. i have 6/8 valor set. all i need is these and the breastplate.
评论来自
Allakhazam
Hasn't dropped for me, all I get to drop is druid gear. Last 2 scholos, wildheart dropped from gandling, wildheart from drakk on my last two UBRS as well. Then, tonight, I get wildheart kilt after killing the baron. Ugh. 2/8 of valor, and at this rate i'm not getting very much more anytime soon.
评论来自
Allakhazam
I did 23 runs in 3 days.
No luck.
Only cloth, leather and mail.
And the plate helmet dropped like 70% of time...
评论来自
Allakhazam
I'm a 60 night elf warrior, i need those legplates and i won them 59 to 55 and they didn'y appear in my backpack.
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我们用
Wowhead 客户端
保证数据库的及时更新,向您提供额外的有趣的功能!
两大目的:
它还维护WoW的一个插件
Wowhead Looter
, 在您游戏时采集数据!
它将
采集所得数据
上传至Wowhead,保证数据库时刻掌握最新信息!
您可以用它追踪完成的任务、配方、坐骑、伙伴宠物以及头衔!
您还在等什么?立即
下载客户端
整装待发吧。
我们用 Wowhead 客户端保证数据库的及时更新,向您提供额外的有趣的功能!
两大目的:
您可以用它追踪完成的任务、配方、坐骑、伙伴宠物以及头衔!
您还在等什么?立即 下载客户端 整装待发吧。