Bear was pretty much "overturned in damage and healing" HOWEVER tree for the whole Druid and Guardian spec is just horrible. They really had to move expansion 3-4 months and just fix every spec, not just a few they already made a good job of. Corporate heads bashed devs and made them release an unfinished product. I hope xpac will receive 1/10 on Metacritic and maybe someday they will learn. Specs like Ret, Spriest, Hunter's, and Guardian are like WTF and I don't know why they don't compensate for bad design in the good and "overturned" state of the character.
Guardian have had 0 communication from blizz while every bear main on beta has been vocal about the changes that are needed, and the current status of bears as tanks in the dragonflight meta. yet for the past few weeks it's one unwarranted nerf after the other, without even the slightest blue posts to explain the philosophy behind current bear design or why they believe Bears deserve those nerfs (while Paladin / Warriors are apparently perfectly fine). Getting now such a massive nerf on the only currently viable build is just insane. at this point i'm considering just taking a break because at this rate bear might be unplayable on progress.
Guardian Nerf.Dev's are actually pepega tier. Well done.
I was under the impression that Guardian Druids already weren't in a good spot. So, I'm confused as to why Elune's Favor got nerfed.
I've been a bear main since cata, I love bears. Yes bear does have a rotation that's a bit too easy. With that being said, why does Bear seem good and/or decent for one maybe two patches then for an entire expansion it's going to be D or E Tier and just get @#$% on again and again without any reasoning as to why. Why not fix some of the problems that bear has not ninja nerf !@#$. I'm not asking that bear be god tier or anything. But it would be nice not to hear why they are changing some things. Without any post on why it truly seems that right now they are just trying to make a spec unplayable. I feel that with a couple simple changes it could make Bear much more enjoyable to play without making our class “Broken” in any content. I feel with some of the following changes below might be able to help bears. Some may simply be a question for everyone to ponder about.Why is Frenzied regeneration on the GCD? If they were to take it off of the GCD would bump up our survivability a little while making us feel like we are more incharge of our survivability. The only reason I see why FR needs to be on the GCD is to make us have more globals. And the comment about but other tanks have things going for them that others do not have and won't ever have.If it's a choice to have the spell Sunfire as a bear. (Like current bear and balance affinity) why can't a bear use sunfire in Bear form? If it's a problem that makes bears do too much damage then nurf the damage and tell us. But I do feel that adding this would help with bears having even just that much more to maintain when in combat. Ya ok bla bla its an aoe dot that you just press every now and again but it adds more for us while helping our threat out just that much more. Make Galactic Guardian also not proc off the sunfire damage to help with this thought about it could make bears to be broken. Adding in Sunfire would add something to bear that's not just thrash thrash.At the same time with other healing spells we get as a bear. TBH im not sure we could make any of them usable in bear. Maybe with a “rage” cost? But this is one thing I truly do feel would be a bit hard to balance and or could just make us too strong. Although maybe somebody else has a thought on this.Maul where to begin with maul. The two and four piece I do feel help this spell feel like it could be used with the talent. I feel the changes to maul could be something along the lines of…“Maul the target dealing X damage, while also grazing other targets nearby and also mauling them for half the damage. And making them bleed for X damage and X time (7-10sec)” Make maul feel like it's useful outside of procs/buffs to the spell. This would give us another reason to have a choice in our rotation. Do I reapply my bleed that costs rage or do I use Ironfur to stay alive. There also could be a proc when you use a proc of gore there is a 20% chance that you will get a Maul Proc making maul cost no rage or reduced rage. This would also add more to the rotation helping us not feel like we always press one button along with i truly feel that a maul bleed wouldn't last that long and wouldn't have a 100% uptime. I do feel the new talent tree does help bear feel better with most of the changes. The ability to “Build a Bear” feels so much better than the Pick these 3 options we have currently. But something needs to change. And the class does not need a total redo. They don't need to break the bear and then fix it with changes to every spell and a 100% new rotation. But something does need to be done to make the bear feel good. And I mean good as in enjoyable. What do we do now? Thrash, ok not completely but close enuff. But i do feel with some or all of these changes bear would feel much better would play better and help us bear players feel like we're not just the %^&* tank that gets to be good/god tier once and a while because blizzard needs over tuned us and just doesn't care any to fix and or tune us back down. I can't and won't speak for other tanks. But bears need some love right now. Blizzard please, who even is fighting for bears right now on your team? Is there anyone at all? Have them reach out to us and talk with those who play bear and love bears. I'm not asking for bears to be god tanks. But I would like us to be “good” so that we can get invites into groups. But then again all tanks should be “around the same” in terms of worth. I'll end my rant here. Thanks for those who have read this. Much love to those bears out there and here's to hoping they adjust bear to bring it back to being a truly enjoyable spec.
the way Guardian is handled right now makes me wonder if the dev working on the spec still believes it's a merged spec with Feral like it used to be. What is even happening? Worst tank, worst talent tree (out of the entire game, not only tanks, and this is a fact not an opinion, it has been proven on forums on multiple occasions), worst damage and YET they keep nerfing the ONLY good build. Why? Literally the only spec with ZERO blue post for the entire alpha/beta. The talent tree needs a total rework and we get nerfs. We need something to make Maul useful in PvE, like a talent that allows Maul to increase the duration of Ironfur, for example. Or AoE damage on Maul. Or free Maul (just like Gore for Mangle). Mastery is also waaaaay undertuned right now. Bears should be huge HP/huge armor but right now they're just a very bad moonfire machine. The spec has no identity this is so sad.
You are a bunch of Karens. I swear. You forget that those working are people and are doing so under whatever the higher-ups put their limits under. You are the dudes that give bad ratings for interactions with Customer Service that was impeccable but you dont like what happened to you so the dude that did his job must be punished. The rating is for the employee but you dont care. It is one of the reasons CS employees are being changed like diapers. They said and announced some month or two ago that they did not have a druid developer/designer for most of that phase. The fact that they have a working tree is amazing.Also, those that think an overhaul will happen are on copium.If you are under the assumption that I am simping for them. I am not, you are just going too far, not that it is not the norm here but still. You would be a wonderful Sith lord apprentice. I hate what they are doing with alot of things but I do not go Karen mode. You never go Karen mode, dude.
Can someone kindly explain why Hpriests...let alone MOST of the other healers getting nerfs where they dont seem justified? like.. What is even going on
What some of you guys don't understand is, they are doing these "adjustments" on beta now so they can call it "buffs" later half way through the patch on live and have people cheer their classes/specs got buffs yay! 😂
First time since WoD im not maining bear going into an expac......sad days Blizzard.