This system will 100% not be useful in 9.0.5. But people are not considering 9.1 and beyond.
Typical terrible system implemented by the buffoon running ruining the game...
Because I am unlucky with shoulder drops. I can't get it from the raid, not from the vault. I spamed mist's, because it has bis stats on those shoulders and after +30 dungs i got the shoulders from a friend. They never droped for me, but now I need to re-farm them again, if i don't get lucky from the vault and raid, so i can get them to 220, but the valor cap #$%^s me, because that is the only piece( and neck that i can benefit from this). I have them both at 210 from m+, but ofc i need to re-farm them again, so i can upg them. How is that fair when pvp people can buy the item they want and upg it. Like wtf, you have so rare drops in the end of a dung chest, which is only a 210 and then you need to armor stack to get the piece you want. I have only 1 friend that is playing a cloth character atm. I can't even do that, how can i get my shoulders, how? NO, this is the worst. I rather not have it, then feeling like blizzard is making a joke out of me. It is like they just make the worst expansion for m+ players and then they are poking us with a stick. It is not fair blizzard. It isn't. Now I know how pvp players felt for years. !@#$ing blizzard!Edit:Saw so many stupid comments, about how it is a fair system. People saying mythic raiding is harder then KSM is valid, but in mythic raiding from the 1st bosses you get 226 loot. I see way more people with 1/10. 2/10 3/10 mythic and having around 900-1000 rio score, but this is not my point. I think 220 is fine. The idea of that item is to fill a spot you still don't have. There is no chance you will upg early in a tier, as you will be capped anyway. The problem for me with this system is that it is very hard to target the item you want to upg and fill that slot. The shoulders I am talking about I only looted once at 197. Probably from a 5. So with a cap 750 each week to upgrade those shoulders I need 2800 valor which is 4 weeks. Or I need to do more then 15-20 dungeons and pray to RNG to get the item. Like 2/5 items is your chance, if you can't armor stack is even worse and then you go for a pool with like 8-9 items. So you need to get lucky to get the drop and then get lucky to get the item you want. Which can take even more then 15 dungeons with this low drop rate.The only problem I see with this system is being hard to get the item you want to upg. I would rather need to farm more valor to upg my item, then to pray RNG to drop it from the end of the loot box.Wanted to talk a little with the 220 item level. I think it is fine, should they make a new achievement for like 18+ or 20+ I don't know. I think +18 is way harder then the 1st few mythic bosses, but to each there own I guess.
yeah they are locking high item level gear behind things that are difficult, just like the rest of the high item level gear in the game?
What's the real problem here is the huge disparity between vault gear and upgraded gear. Why grind Valor for weeks to get a single item to 220 when you have a chance at a free version of that item at ilv 226 every week? The systems are fine on their own, but they don't make sense together. If you're going to make a change like this, balance the whole m+ gearing system, not insert another system into it.
Good luck pugging for KSM as a "non-meta", melee dps without hero or bres.
heres a point system...im makes it useless so it doesnt do anything but hey you cant say you dont have it anymore. I
It's mostly to fill gaps in your gear, sometimes you don't get something in the slot you need for weeks and weeks from the vault. Sometimes your BiS gear comes from the dungeon not from the raid.Many M+ Runners hardly raid and do little pvp, because they enjoy doing small team pve content over anything else (usually tight knit friend groups at higher levels), you'dbe surprised to see how little gear you need to do high keys successfully if you are performing them flawlessly, but they deserve good gear for the effort.That saidM+15's are not as hard as coordinating a mythic raid team together, simply by numbers and organization beyond mechanics.M+15's also are not as hard as attaining gladiator rank in pvp by a large marginSo the gear they max out at is a little lower. Likely they didn't want to tune to 20+ achieves because that's simply not achievablefor some comps esp in certain dungeons, it's beyond what they balance for since m+ is infinitely scaling that bar has to be set somewhere.IMO 220 is tuned just about perfectly. And will feel much better in 9.1, where you aren't putting the gear against months of vault gear accumulated.
one-handed str weapon costs 500 valor to upgrade
System its fine...except the achievement to upgrade beyond 213
Now we all are pushed to run Mythic+. It's what lots of players need - toxic groups. I wish I can use Valors on something else beside Mythic gear upgrades and a bag of goodies.
Well nice, but i want pet/mount whatever on that valor npc, getting now valor everyday in the calling but i dont have something to upgrade cause i dont like dungeons and mythics even less.
The weekly cap is 750. The 5000 is a catch-up for releasing the system late, you don't get to farm 5000+750 each week. It's only 5000 the first week, then after that 750 cap each week. Upgrading 210 to 220 would cost 3000 valor for a 2H weapon. At 750 max per week (ignoring the 5000 catch up), that would be 4 weeks worth of valor capping.
Nothing like farming the piece you already have that took 2 months to get in the first place. Bad system is bad. No thanks, Ill wait the 3-4 months till Chains of Domination, in which alot of people already have since Blizzcon. They forcing people to run and get achievements in dungeons, trying to make M+ a thing for some people that getting 15s is easy, some it is not and some just dont have the time to run 5 -15s/14s a day just to get a anima every time. Its the Hardcore MDI players that say 'M+ doesnt give any incentive to do' - well.. here you go and most of the MDI have 226..soo who really is this for?My whole left side is 226, so getting certain pieces is....no thanks. This loot system is horrible.