The Rise of the Vengeance Demon Hunter Tank in Season 1 of Shadowlands Mythic+

Live Posted 2021/01/11 at 4:40 AM by Squishei

Mythic+ leaderboard on Raider.io for Shadowlands Season 1Season 4 of BFAGeneral TankinessThick SkinDemonic WardsBase Mitigation

Demon Spikes for Increased Armor and 15% Parry Chance - 2 charges, 20 sec (reduced by Haste) recharge.

Metamorphosis for 50% Health, 200% Armor and increased resource generation - 3 minute cooldown.

Fiery Brand for 40% damage reduction from the target.

Demonic Wards - a flat 15% damage reduction to all forms of damage.

Thick Skin - 65% Stamina and 100% Armor.

Additional Bonuses in Shadowlands

Demonic - which allows for more Metamorphosis uptime, once a minute.

The combination of Burning Alive, Agonizing Flames and Charred Flesh gives a 40% damage reduction with a rather high uptime to all creatures in the pack.
Charred Flesh makes Immolation Aura increase the duration of Fiery Brand.

Agonizing Flames increases the uptime on Immolation Aura.

Burning Alive makes Fiery Brand spread to all nearby targets!

Fiery SoulFiery BrandFel DefenderDamage Output - Kyrian CovenantWarcraft LogsElysian DecreeRepeat DecreeGrowing InfernoConclusionMetamorphosisDemon SpikesFiery BrandLast ResortMetamorphosisChaos BrandImprison

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Comment by AshenruneDh nerf incomingComment by Anubishamanpretty balanced i would say? no it not

for me the jumping around tank is just stupid it should not work like this, it should not be a thing, it goes against to what tanks stand for i my opinionComment by MorbidFableThe homogeneity of M+ and raiding this tier is egregious.

When people wanted balancing they didn't want everything to be okay and then somethings must picks, they wanted everything to be relatively okay

Melee got shafted so hard. There is no place for melee this patch.Comment by runeeThis, VDH is not even OP, yhea we have a better time than other tanks, but we are far from what a warrior was in BFA, other classes need buffs
Monks and druids are doing ok. especially because they have a passive mitigation and a lot of ways to kite. i hate that people want nefs to a class because its performing better than the otherComment by rosurycReally not looking forward to the inevitable nerfs that's incoming.

I really like my VDH and I don't feel all that tanky either.

I play casually and haven't even completed a +10 yet, but I feel like the nerfs will hit people who play casually the hardest, top-tier players will adapt or just switch to the new meta—I don't have that luxury, unfortunately.Comment by rosurycThe whole article glosses over the fact that most guilds used vengeance DH to progress the raid and a lot of top raiders are strong mythic+ players. So the top tank at the moment will be the one that is most gearedComment by TheMediatorI hope VDH get nerfed to the ground so I don't need to deal with groups declining tanks because "is not VDH" on the second month of the expansion.While we're on the same mindset, that meme with limit having a prot warrior as a tank, has got to stop. Comment by DoomRevenant

pretty balanced i would say? no it not

for me the jumping around tank is just stupid it should not work like this, it should not be a thing, it goes against to what tanks stand for i my opinionComment by rosuryc

While we're on the same mindset, that meme with limit having a prot warrior as a tank, has got to stop. Comment by MoxopolinAny tank can do a weekly +15 and any tank can do a +20 the big picture is the entire composition of the group not just 1 role. The amount of idiots in the comment section saying it needs a nerf.Comment by runee
Honestly? Most of the meta-slaving over tanks I see is happening among bad players stuck in the 10-ish range who think they need to class stack to break over the "Prideful Hump" as it were.
Comment by TheMediatorthe big picture is the entire composition of the group not just 1 role. I'm doing 16's keys now and I see this every single day. People inviting VDH only does not matter which r.io you have. Maybe you don't notice because you are a VDH?Comment by runee
My main is 1.3k RIO Bear. Very, very rarely do I ever get a decline from a group in 15-16 range who want specifically a VDH and not a bear.
Comment by MrRoguery
I understand why it was done. The point of my reply was that just because someone has gear from a raid doesn't automatically mean they're going to be pushing high keys, and that the reason VDH is ahead isn't simply because there are VDH with mythic raid gear running around. There is no hidden scaling in play that is going to magically fix the situation.Comment by TheMediator
My main is 1.3k RIO Bear. Very, very rarely do I ever get a decline from a group in 15-16 range who want specifically a VDH and not a bear.
Comment by rosurycAny tank can do a weekly +15 and any tank can do a +20 the big picture is the entire composition of the group not just 1 role. The amount of idiots in the comment section saying it needs a nerf.Comment by kajitheninjaDidnt prot paladin get a 100% armor nerf like a week before release because it was going to be too strong? VDH seems like it would still be way ahead of prot even without the nerf. So why not buff the other tanks and make them more viable instead of just keeping 1 tank really strongComment by TheMediatorJust not play the game for 7 months until next seasonComment by AluganaVengeance DH is the reason many people play tank this expansion. For me, it is only tank spec i want to play. So if it would be nerfed to the state, where it was all 4 years of its existence (garbage tier), i would be back to dps, or stop playing. So Vengeance is right step into introducing more tanks in queues. Maybe it is bad for other tanks, but they are still doing ok. So, Blizzard, think twice before nerfing DH tanks, haha.Comment by eraxivill take an experienced prot warr over a meta dog who picks vdh and doesnt know how to kite

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