People don't realize that the stated survival buff, isn't actually a new buff.It is the same buff mentioned around a month ago when they buffed: Raptor strike, Flanking Strike and Mongoose bite, all by 15%.This Datamine is merely the updated tooltips.p.s. for all the people crying about surv; there is more to the game than just pve, the current iteration of survival excels well in pvp, it is only lacking the numbers, which i hope those buffs adjust a bit.
Why put on 1 line that Smokebomb PvP talent will be for Assa/Outlaw only now than a few lines down state that Subt is geting a new pvp talent called smokebomb that works in the exact same way as the other one. Seems really pointless to state this at all.
Survival Hunters might not have the biggest playerbase, but what I do know is that those who do play Survival love it A LOT. Surv is one of the most fun and smooth specs to play. It's so much fun to have both Harpoon and Disengage. Surv is also extremely good in M+.
they've been pretty committed to the melee change. so much so that ion has had to have an interview response about it at the beginning of shadowlands. Survival in previous expansions used to extremely well in ST situations and now its closer to how it should be, no spec should be like left to be unplayable even if you absolutely hate its design theres sure to be someone else who actually enjoys it, i've said this time and time again though, hate against one spec or another does actually help how Spec X, Y, or Z should be buffed to be brought in line :3
Wait, PvP modifiers can be datamined now? Can we get them on the spell data pages @perculia and folks?
I still think survival is really fun... I have no idea what it needs to be considered good, but personally I think it's underrated. Glad to see any sorta buff.
I play Surv Hunter.Buff their core damage please.
They've been mineable for ages now. Finding them is as "easy" as opening the raw SpellEffect datatable and looking for the PvpMultiplier column. But, yea, would be nice if wowhead showed them in the spell details.
Cool Rogue sooth change!
Blizzard really seems to want to kill Hunters with fire. With all the Hunter problems since SL launch, they kept saying they want to save big tuning changes for full patches and tried to keep us quiet for the longest content drought in WoW history. Now we have a release candidate and it's clear they want Hunters to stay at the bottom.I'm not the type that threatens to quit the game every time things don't go my way, but this expansion really shows why WoW is dying a slow death.
And here are all the hunters crying about no buffs.Again, the only hunter spec that is on the bottom is BM... which is the easiest spec in the game. You literally have no downtime, so I see BM hunters top the charts all the time. But I don't understand the crying, because no one has seen how each spec will perform in the new raid yet. We don't even know how the new soulbinds will change the game. If buffs are needed, they will come later after the raid has been out for a few weeks. Stop crying over 200 less dps, ffs
the survival buff is clearly for PvP and raid, no interest on MM+ where we prefer the bomb buff. And stop talk about MM and BM, survival is now clearly a good competitor in raid with other specs, and it's fine. In mm+ it's just excellent, as a survival fae i do 30k dps on packs on 16+ it's just very fun, bomba powa !The dh 3 stacks is pretty strange, will be annoying in PvP to kite, i think it's clearly for this situation and compensate the fel rush damages decrease