I think raid wide buffs (INT, BS, etc) are fine but having single transferrable buffs (PI) or party buffs (WF) is bad and don't make them stackable. That way you just need to bring one to the raid and you aren't hindered if you aren't the lucky one to get PI or put in the 5man stack group.
i was hyped for this xpac but after all the recently finding with power infusion and now these party only externals nah thx
I'm super down for class utility, it stands to reason that you should want at least one of each class in a raid group.What I'm not down for is spec utility. There's far too many specs in game for them. Spec-specific utility is Blizzard basically picking golden children and is not conducive to an enjoyable environment. Assassination and Subtlety already in danger and Alpha hasn't even fully begun yet. If they want something like this in the game, it has to be given to rogue, not just outlaw.Not to mention, it's sore tiresome always having to use "your" choices, in this case your talent selection, for the benefit of other players and get no gain yourself. It sucks. We see this with PI now. This kind of stuff was for an old, depreciated era of "hybrids" where folks who wanted this "support" role just played Shaman and Druid. Instead Blizzard in their infinite wisdom decides to try and shoehorn them in to everything.
I don't understand why we can't go back to the Wrath-era way of buffs, where multiple classes brought multiple buffs. They could very, very easily make it so Guard/Feral druids apply the physical debuff, Unholy and like, Survival bring the magic debuff.It's incredibly stupid that the way it's setup now you really have to bring 7 different classes or you miss out. What if you just don't have any good Warriors? Just get bent?
People blowing the Outlaw talent out of proportional as per usual. I understand reading is hard, but Restless Crew affects 5 people not 20 which greatly reduces its usefulness in a raid setting unless you bring multiples.
Why are we discussing meta when half the classes don't even have a talent tree yet?
Dungeon utility between classes?Meanwhile feral can't get trees which is a fantastic dungeon utility spell.etc
All those people in the comments talking about Mythic raiding, how much of you actually participate in it? I just want to not be turned out from Normal raid group because I play melee or non-meta spec without heroic ilvls.