Why does no one see the other side of this? The horde are being persecuted and wiped out by the Alliance simply for existing before all of this went down. They were being cast out of cities, called inferior and everything else. Yet people are upset she was trying to keep people from having a place of power in the Horde homeland?>.> I'm sorry, but I can absolutely see where she is coming from and I will proudly shout, For the Horde! She's not just fighting for the fun and expansion of land, she's fighting for survival.
yes yes u right i enter orgimmaar and we didnt cursh and finish the hordevarian didnt listen jaina and his sense becouse of his son today kinf anduin affected varian so he give them a chanceyes yes bad allience didnt act like horde buuhuhuhorde always do this and people keep defending themguess been usa zitizen have some backfaalsi dont think so any european player even love slyanas caracter defend this extremeseriously i think trump even good for usa.next time elected slynanas or trumpwhy u keep defending specially same people blame aliience for ton of tihink compare what horde did not even compared %0.1or say jaiana get over it for themare but older history agesago happen artas crimes she cant over itoh more ironic part if wasnt artas wast forsekan slyabanas horde warchief.as animation elf said she is full hatredwhy defeneding this game have 2 sideslightly good silde aliinece is blue and slighly bad side red hordenot anyone need be lawfull good super awesome streight arrowin games we become assasin thiefs murderers all kind thingbut somehow some horde player dont wana acept facts they at slightly bad sight.orc war hungry blood thirsty savagessome good peacefull orc some good honorable decent peoplebut generally they are like this.i sugest u look up funny reaction on tree part quest link herepeople keep we didnt burn the tree we didnt do it lol ton of msg like thatso what is denial.now we know %100 sure was the horde was the slyanas done it.but still defendingagain play what ever u want whatever role u wantbut dont be two faced dont be at denialone week ago people here defending slybaas saying this not hapening this isnt horde this isnt slynavas workone comment even say slyabas must be idiot after wining war do this.there for cant be her.which she did. and she was respoanble oneand now argument changeshe is right she is despprate sheis la bla all excuseslol 1 week ago general player said no we didnt now we did but ask why we did we are rights.lolthen u were atacking people last weeks and argue otherwisejust calm and think oh if jaina at past i did any atack to horde for revenge thremore before or after horde people can go berserk.but they not accepting if they do something fact even they goes bersek %5-10 stong issuesjust call this is game and see what is really is.stop defending just becouse of vind with it.dont worry wow stormwing patrol npc wont spawn in real life and arest u.just done be this close mindedat furue if something happen then we consider t againnow slybanas is doing evil dead horde fallow u are defending evils.
As a Horde Druid, this story was really lacking in motivation for me. I'm so loyal to the Horde that I'm willing to go against Malfurian? The quest text didn't even give a special nod to my being a druid. I wonder how in game Hammul Runetotem is going to react to this?I try to give Blizzard the benefit of the doubt, but this was a huge letdown for me.<edit>I guess the biggest disappointment is they're taking away the agency and free will of my characters. If I want to play horde, and I want to experience the quests, I have to do it as an evil stormtrooper serving under Sylvanas. It just goes so much against the quests I've done, and the reputations I've grinded in game (i.e. anything cenarion).
I can't even be proud to be Horde anymore....Blizzard, please look up the definition of "ambiguous"
With Malfurion alive, Sylvanas would struggle to hold Darnassus. And as the elf basically said, as long as the Teldrassil stood, the elves would have hope of retaking it. It wasn't "hope" in general that she was talking about, it was the hope of victory in that specific battle.So she acted like a real military general would. If you cant hold a strategic objective, destroy it. Like in our own actual history *In 1812 the Russian army set Moscow aflame as they abandoned it due to Napoleon's advance, knowing they couldn't stop him at the time.* and countless other examples.By burning down Teldrassil not only does she accomplish her original goal of cleansing Kalimdor (thus securing Azerite), but also showing Alliance that she is nobody to mess with. So as weird as it sounds, if you THINK about it, the burning down makes sense.So is it lazy writing ? i think not. Is it "Morally Grey" it actually is in a sad way, we need to remember we are being spoon feed a greater story and need to see the bigger picture before we cast our judgement.
Enough second and third chances. There's always another Guldan, Garrosh, Sylvanas, etc, waiting in the wings.Azeroth will never be safe until the Horde is exterminated!
Let's put it this way, I can see where the Horde and where Sylvannas were coming from.But what they did was still wrong.
Now we just need to get rid of Anduin and BAM, no more Alliance/Horde teaming up together to deal with space satan or whatever comes in the next expansions. Guaranteed perpetual faction war. Beautiful;
Look at all these novels being written in the comments. Some of you need to step away from your machines and take a deep breath. I've played WoW for over 10 years now and the community any more is down right cringe worthy. None of you are doing this game any justice with your over the top, polarizing arguments in this thread. Yes, we have all put a lot of time, love and money into this game but that doesn't justify acting like 4 year olds fighting about which cartoons you wanna watch. Fantasy quickly becomes reality apparently.
All that is good man, but you gith Sephiroth. No matter how cool he is as a grey villain, you, as the player fight to stop him.That's the problem here. Not Sylvanas herself. Her story was leading to this point a long time now.I am not even angry that a simple Orc grunt would follow her. They probably would.The only things simple Grunt knows is "Alliance are bad, they want to kill us, we fight back".And let's not kid ourselves, most Alliance footmen just follow orders too, and most of them just hate the horde without knowing even a third of the actual story.All these are fine. The Factions can, and probably should, fight till the last man.But some other major Lore characters, and especially the Heroes, the pleyr characters should not in any way act like this.Especially Horde heroes should not follow Sylvanas.Or at least give us the Damn choice!No matter what people like to say about the Horde, after Warcraft 3 and when WoW begun, we were supposed to be the misfits that -sometimes- do the savage thing because they had to.This is the second time we are forced to do objectively bad things against our will (as players) because in game we have no choice.That is my problem, and I tend to believe most people's problem atm too.