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Comment by 384121

This doesn't look so bad... but for some reason, I expected something more like the old Banana-shoulders or, preferably, the T2 set.

Ah well.

Comment by 159948

Could anyone say the reason of the 2pc bonus, since our judges are usuallys replaced/overlaped? Expected a better 2pc bonus...

Comment by Narielm

General Turalyon

Former Lieutenant to Lord Anduin Lothar. Knight of the Silver Hand. High General of the Alliance Expedition that marched into the orc homeworld of Draenor. Presumed deceased.

Esarus thar no'Darador' - By Blood and Honor We Serve.
You were the right hand of justice and virtue, old friend. Your name will be honored in our halls always.

Taken from his Statue in Valley of Heroes

Comment by Singurlarity

Wow... look at that 2p set. It's awful. From what I can think on the spot right now, it serves next to NO benefit for a holy paladin in PvE. I mean really... this is a slap in the face.

Comment by Mortenz

Oh on the contrary.

The 2cp bonus can actually be quite decent, since it saves you 200 mana every 20 sec. so thats 40mp5 worth of set bonus. (Unless I fail at math), and 40mp5 is quite decent. For those fights in 10 man where you only have 2 paladins, and you want to keep Light and Wisdom up, it is actually quite decent.

While it might not look atractive at first glance, in a 5 minute fight thats a lot of mana saved.
Not to mention the 4cp bonus is awesome.

Comment by 443572

Mortenz, don't forget the 1sec it saves you on GCD ... you could cast Holy Shock or even a Flash of Light (given that Infusion of Light is active). IMO, the 2pc bonus is actually quite decent.

Comment by Hornn

To add to the other guy's previous post in which he is correct about the 40 Mp5.

With 3.2; your special talent spec additional effect to your judgements, can no longer be overwritten by somebody else's different spec judgment. If you are Holy specced with Judgements of the Pure and you cast JoLight, it will apply Judgement of the Pure effect on the target. Then a Protection Spec Pally also cast JoLight it will apply Judgement of the Just. Where your Judements used to be overwritten, their individual effects will remain.

So let us really get in deep with the pros and cons of the 2 pc bonus.

Pro #1: When in situations where you actually have to use JoL to squeeze every ounce of healing you can, not worrying about it for 10 additional seconds can be a blessing. No Pun intended :D

Pro#2: In the 10 additonal seconds you are given, I can personally cast 5 at my worst to 8 at my best HL, depending on whats going on. Add blowing a GCD right at the beginning of the 10 seconds you would have had. and 5-6 HL will be best you can hope for. If you start to factor in crits and average heal amount you can see how u miss a lot of healing with jus tthe one GCD.

Con #1: I would say close to 95% of Main Spec Pally Healers (WooT for us guys!) have already adapted their healing cycles to keep judgements up when they want them up, so the 10 seconds wont be to much of a change for us.

My Opinion: Set bonus sucks compared to say 7.5 2pc (10% critical on Holy Shock ). Assuming my earlier math was correct, and factoring 100% crit with 20K crit everytime the best this would get you is 40K extra healing without blowing the GCD. Not much when in ToTC 10 Beasts my average total healing on that encounter has been about 1.3M-1.8M

All of this is based off impossibly rare BEST case scenario. But its just to show the Impossibly rare best benefit you could get from the 2pc bonus.

Comment by 343054

I'm not a raider myself, focusing my PvE gear more towards FoL output than anything else, and while most have been said about the set bonuses I'd like to point out I'm going to badge my way to the 4-set bonus ASAP.

It's a 450-700 HPS increase on it's own which is damn hard to pass up.

Heck, I might even try it in PvP for #$%^ and giggles. It should compare favorably to the T8/8.5 4-set bonus unless you have a Warrior on your ass.

That said I can see the old T7/7.5-bonuses being a hit still.

Comment by 267165

2pc bonus does suck. JoL is not really useful as a method of healing and i judge every CD as it can proc SoW giving me back around 1300 mana.

This hapens alot during a fight and end up giving me back around 12k mana after 2 goes in ToC NR beasts

Comment by 475776

I completely agree with Siriurtz. Any holy paladin using Seal of Wisdom should be judging as often as possible because judgements are melee attacks that can proc SoW's 4% maximum mana regeneration effect.

The 2cp bonus can actually be quite decent, since it saves you 200 mana every 20 sec. so thats 40mp5 worth of set bonus. (Unless I fail at math) ||Quote by Mortenz||

If you look at Siriurtz's scenario (which is very common for a holy paladin) and still believe saving 200 mana ever 20 seconds is better than gaining 1,300 mana every 20 seconds, then yes: you do fail at math.

Comment by 554442

Is there any off-set pieces to complete the look of this set?

Comment by 157377

Healing ish my OS, and I like the 4 set bonus, since I only use my holy specc for running heroix, and when I look at recount, the tick from SS and FoL ish the most healning from FoL :) It does 50-70% of my heals from FoL :)

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Turalyon's Garb

A Paladin item set with 5 pieces.

	Turalyon's Gloves (1)
	Turalyon's Greaves (1)
	Turalyon's Headpiece (1)
	Turalyon's Spaulders (1)
	Turalyon's Tunic (1)

Turalyon's Garb

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