Shadow Priest Hero Talent Showdown in The War Within - Archon vs. Voidweaver

The War Within Criado 12/8/2024 em 03:43 por EllipsisPriest

Not sure what Hero Talents to play for your spec in The War Within? Check out all the released articles in the 'Hero Talent Showdown' series:
Hero Talent Showdowns in The War Within
Blood DK
Frost DK
Unholy DK
Havoc DH
Vengeance DH
Balance Druid

Feral Druid
Guardian Druid
Restoration Druid
Augmentation Evoker
Devastation Evoker
Preservation Evoker
Beast Mastery Hunter
Marksmanship Hunter
Survival Hunter
Arcane Mage
Fire Mage
Frost Mage
Brewmaster Monk
Mistweaver Monk
Windwalker Monk
Holy Paladin
Protection Paladin
Retribution Paladin
Discipline Priest
Holy Priest
Shadow Priest
Assassination Rogue
Outlaw Rogue
Subtlety Rogue
Elemental Shaman
Enhancement Shaman
Restoration Shaman
Affliction Warlock
Demonology Warlock
Destruction Warlock
Arms Warrior
Fury Warrior
Protection Warrior

For more information on Hero Talents coming in the War Within, check out our Hero Talents Overview.

The War Within Hero Talents Overview

Shadow Priest in the War WithinHero Talent Showdown: Archon vs. Voidweaver Archon

Strengths

Weaknesses

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Strengths

Weaknesses

hastemasteryWhat's Changed? Archon my initial review Voidweavershared my thoughts onAnd the Winner Is...

Class Fantasy & Visuals: Voidweaver (Winner)
Voidweaver provides the far superior class fantasy and visuals, locking in on the cosmic void theme extremely well and adding a new dimension to Shadow Priest we haven't previously seen. However, the fact that the Void spec doesn't utiliseVoidform is a bit of a letdown.

Archon on the other hand falls flat on theming and visuals. The hero tree doesn't really add anything beyond the extra spawns of and completely fails to sell its "Ultimate form" power fantasy discussed in the talent reveal.

Fun & Rewarding Gameplay: Archon (Winner)

While Archon doesn't necessarily have anything unique to provide in terms of gameplay besides a couple extra procs of , the gameplay is smooth, consistent, and familiar. Utilising everything that's available to you to pull off a strong opening sequence to a pull or boss fight is rewarding. Archon also plays exclusively, which helps a lot with DoT maintenance and sustained AoE damage in Mythic+. It is disappointing however that Archon wins this category by just providing the same gameplay as Shadow Priest in Dragonflight.

Voidweaver focusing on the gameplay and already makes it the less appealing option for me personally, however it loses this category thanks to two negative interactions with .

The first is that whilst pooling casts in preparation for , it's a dps loss to use any of the procs you may have acquired during that time as it will reduce the number of s you get in the upcoming rift.

The second is that as the window for fitting 3 s inside an is already relatively tight, procs of inside rarely provide enough cooldown reduction to net an additional and don't really have an impact.

Difficulty: Voidweaver & Archon (Sort of a tie)Defensiveness & Utility: Voidweaver (Winner but not by much)sixMobility: Voidweaver & Archon (Sort of a tie)Leveling: Voidweaver & Archon (Tie)The Levelling Talent BuildMythic+: Archon (Winner)recent tuning changesRaid: Archon (Winner)Silken CourtBest Overall: Archon (Winner??)Hero Talent Feedback Archonit is still extremely bland and largely consists of underdeveloped ideaslittle Voidweaver

Fix the issue with and pooling: As the gameplay of Voidweaver revolves around ensuring a minimum of three casts during each window, you often find yourself sitting on one or more charges of whilst waiting for to come off cooldown, or that a proc of during won't net you enough cooldown reduction to fit in a fourth .

Procs of Prior to 10.1, generated an additional charge of as opposed to simply resetting the cooldown. This meant that whenever in the cooldown of your you received the Proc, the value was always 1 extra , even if both of them were already off cooldown. Standardising the value of a proc like this, or by changing the proc to allow a cast of without incurring a cooldown (similar to Devastation Evoker's .) would go along with to alleviating the moments of frustration caused by the spec currently.

spawns a distance from the enemy target and slowly moves into place as part of its animation. This means that even on a stationary target some of the damage is lost because it starts ticking before it reaches them. This is especially bad on moving targets in situations like Mythic+ and overall makes the spell feel a lot less cool than if it were a void opening under your target to swallow them up.

This one is preference but it feels odd and disappointing to me that the Void themed hero talent is not the one playing due to the rotation simply being unable to handle the additional GCDs to cast as well as losing the direct damage buffs to from . That Void theme is also somewhat diluted by the focus on and pet related abilities in the Voidweaver tree, an aspect of Shadow's gameplay that has been contentious since it was first introduced in Shadowlands. Because of this, Archon often feels more "Voidy" to play than Voidweaver. Despite this, changes to shift the cooldowns over would likely require significant iteration and mechanical changes to both hero trees as well as shadow's core gameplay, as attempting to change it with tuning alone would cause a host of problems.

Updated Tier Setinitially evaluatedHero Talents and Gameplay

Voidweaver potentially requires careful pooling of to play optimally, as well as a tight rotation with little room for error to get maximum value out of every window.

Archon's additional procs caused by making the opener and every subsequent setup much more focused on finding the perfect order of spells.

Talent Trees and Utilityresponse to feedbackeight4.33eightless than halfBugscomprehensive list

Targeted was previously called Void Crash and had a different icon / animation, allowing it to be distinguishable more easily in written form, as well as on your action bars and in the talent tree.

If spawns out of line of sight or unable to attack its target for whatever reason, it will not deal damage once a target comes in range. It's also problematic with because it will spend time running into range if it spawns further than 40 yards away.

is not properly affected by and will sometimes spawn behind the player, putting itself out of its own maximum range and failing to do anything.

and are not working consistently.

has not been working on the max level testing realms.

fails to spawn or falls off the map sometimes when following a target that is hovering off the side of a platform.

spawns / on the target you previously cast / on, not your target or the target of your .

's range does not match the tooltip, nor is it properly extended by .

Should You Play Shadow Priest in the War Within?

Hello! I am Ellipsis, moderator for WarCraftPriests, the Priest Discord. I work on Shadow Priest theorycraft alongside the Shadow Team, you can check out our work here! I am often active on the WarCraftPriests discord server and free to answer any questions or queries related to Shadow Priest or any content in any of my guides. I raid in The Misty Moon on EU Tarren-Mill (Formerly The Misty Moon Massive) and have raided between top 50 and 300 since Legion but I've been playing Shadow Priest in some capacity for going on 17 years. Outside of WoW, I spend most of my time listening to music, especially seeking out interesting new things I haven't heard before!

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Hero Talent Guides for the War Within Launch

Blood DKFrost DKUnholy DK

Havoc DHVengeance DH

Balance DruidFeral DruidGuardian DruidRestoration Druid

Aug EvokerDevastation EvokerPreservation Evoker

BM HunterMM HunterSurvival Hunter

Arcane MageFire MageFrost Mage

Brewmaster MonkMistweaver MonkWindwalker Monk

Holy PaladinProtection PaladinRetribution Paladin

Discipline PriestHoly PriestShadow Priest

Assassination RogueOutlaw RogueSubtlety Rogue

Elemental ShamanEnhance ShamanRestoration Shaman

Affliction WarlockDemo WarlockDestro Warlock

Arms WarriorFury WarriorProtection Warrior

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