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most of the time pugging on my realm is great....kinda like being in a room with four strangers wondering if they know what they are doinghad a bad one day afore yesterday on my priest....sometimes i don't mind being in charge but am used to the tank being the one to mark ect...ran ST with a pug...i guess i'm so used to everyone who does the pre bc instances knowing the whole place....the four people i was with only one had ran it....and the tank kept saying "watch this" and pulling tons of mobs in the dragon room....then losing aggro..LOLheal marks heal splains everyone stays group clears instance (almost we didn't do the basement with the wormies and such) everyone gives heals claps on the back....heals takes a deep breath and goes to bed but ya know...it didn't sour me...i'm still in trade LFG ______ when the guild is empty i still like instance lvlin my priest and random instance with my mainit's kinda fun and amazing when things go well....even good if they go badi think i'm in your boat....i like pug
I don't like PuGing that much, mainly because of people leaving after a single wipe. I don't mind repair costs, and neither should anyone who decide to join a PuG. It's also partially the problem of finding a tank before we even get started. Most tanks have socalled 'static groups' or people they already know that they whisper for instances, because tanks most of all hate wiping out. I imagine it must be easy to find a decent geared PuG when you are a tank yourself. When you've played this game for years, you'd rather go with a name you know well, rather than an unknown quest geared player.When I do get together with a PuG, I'll take leadership if needed. If the current group leader does a good job at telling how we'll do things, and marks main kill, secondary kill, etc. I just follow along. Every group needs someone to take leadership to get through challenging instances, that's for sure.THE one thing in specific I hate are people who quit. "Let's just do it the normal way" instead of even trying the hard mode achievements, or simply leaving group after a wipe are things that make me hate PuGing more than anything. There's nothing worse for me than getting saved to an instance where the last boss(es) is(/are) still alive. Sure, if someone have a really good reason why they suddenly have to leave after 30 minutes in a PuG, I can probably manage to replace them, but I don't like players who simply quit with no good reason, and wiping a couple of times is not a good one.I resort to PuGs when needed, but I'll always go with a premade over that.
While I tend to avoid PUGs these days, I have to agree with what was said before: We all started as noobs. I still remember when I was asked to tank RFK as a little Tauren. I was running around with my big 2h mace feeling happy for myself, thinking shields were for pallies and those tiny humans. It was by grace of the party that they allowed me to tank even if I didnt have Defensive Stance trained (skipped the quest). The other group members (undoubtedly alts of then level 60 players) were very patient and explained to me how the use of a shield had its benefits in an instance situation. Not long thereafter I had respecced to full protection tank and had found my calling.Of course when encountering level 80 players that play at the level described above my patience levels drop drastically.When I run a heroic with my guild members, I know I don't have to mark the caster mob in the back cause the mage will sheep it automatically. I don't worry about my health nine times out of ten the healer will be on the ball and I'm healed to full before even contemplating using panic buttons.I tend to get frustrated and have absolutely zero respect for stupidity and ignorance, so PUGs are generally not for me.Here's one for the tanks: How much do you hate random whispers from people you have never heard of that consist of nothing more than '?' / HC DLY?' or 'Prot?' / 'Tank?' / 'Feral?'
Good blog post. I love PUGs and yes I've taught tanks how to tank :) In all honesty, there was someone who taught me how to tank correctly way back then. I did an alright job but he gave me good pointers like charge in then switch to def stance, use demo shout to make healing easier, etc. When I first played a warrior, I had no idea what "generates a lot of threat" meant. We were all newbs when we started playing wow. When I first played in a 5man dungeon, I think I pulled like 8 ragefire troggs and caused a wipe :DI think being polite and taking time to explain things in detail is best. You're not the king of wow so you have no right to yell at someone, barking at them about how they're supposed to play.What I love most about PUGs: "can I need for my alt?" "can I have all the cloth drops you pick up?" "can I need to de?" "stop ninjaing soul shards or I'll kick you out of the group"
I think, we as tanks, have all written a similarly confident post assuring people that if one just choose to make things happen, they somehow magically do.I am not quite as polite in my posting of this topic, as I'm obnoxiously aggressive & won't hesitate to tell you to step up, take charge, and tank like a mad man.Excellent post.
On my server, it seems to me that PuGs are more useful than guilds some days. Ive pugged about 75% of all my instances and even raids. usually people who pug are people who know what they are doing and put themselves out there, not ride on the coat-tails of their guild. But dont get me wrong. Ive had my share of pugs who are just plain horrible, and do not know the difference between "cc" and "aoe."