Can't speak for the others, but I dislike new Discipline significantly more than the previous tree.Also, why is Shining Force gone? And what's up with Priest getting even less DR now? Yay, it's 5% DR for longer instead of 10% for 5s, but jesus some classes have 10% DR permanently.
I am so excited for Shadow it looks so fun. I might main it again.
Shadow Priest is such a mess all over again.
While all hybrid classes can pick their interrupt skills from their class tree so their heal specs can get easily interrupt effect, it seems a little unfair to just put the priest silence effect in shadow spec. I'm having a hard time understanding why. Even though the priest silence has much higher cooldown than the others. It seems weird.
Generally good changes I think. The lack of Flash Conc in DF was worrying me as the single target throughput of H priest was what made it so strong in SL. Lightweaver seems to help with that at least.Disc definitely needed a rework in order to make it a more balanced spec - whether this does the trick will remain to be seen,Shadow looks like it has a lot more choice now, and I'm excited to see how it plays.But... of all the changes they've made, removing shining force is really irking me. It was a niche spell but very useful to help control trash pulls in M+ (i.e. moving stuff out of sanguine). It wasn't OP, and was probably healing priests only useful utility for helping to control trash. Removing it feels completely unnecessary!
Glad for all priest players there, you got it =)Next druids pls!
I like the new Holy tree! But i still would remove Pi
as someone who run +20 and was able to heal few raids... as holy priest - the generic priest talent feels a lot more powerfull for healing, but holy priest talent just sucks so much - they put all our m+ talents all over the tree, with capnodes of lightweaver (cata mop healing style) apotheosis which was our to go talent for m+ (because rest sucked) and divine words - new talent which looked interesting to grab in old holy priest talent - and our raid/group talents.. again all over the tree with mana regen in weird far away spot - also really feels like they are brute forcing us to renew - renew got so much talent spots and interraction with our salvation and prayer of mending and circle of healing:/ renew was always throw away spell for holy priest and now they are brute forcing it to us
I've played Shadow for a bit in the Beta and it's very enjoyable, very satisfying. Feels good.
I posted a disappointment message, actually I take it back.Non-consummable Circle of prayer if so fine.With (Lightweaver+Unwavering Will+Divine Word Serenity+Crisis Management+Trail of light) we can get a huge spell power burst (40% crit chances, 40% haste on Heal, 90% heal power on Heal).Row8 still feel kinda meh to me.I still ask for smartheal on PoH plz.
The Disc changes just look so whatever. I liked last tree where they went all-in on Shadow Covenant with more coverted spells and such which is a cool playstyle. The removal of Halo/Divine Star/SH:D healing doesn't help at all nor does this fixation with Renew (literally who asked for this). Also, if you don't play Shadow Cov putting Flash Heal on Atonement means you are probably ONLY using Flash Heal or Shadow Mend depending on which is tuned better as they are both "fast heals that only heal".Also can someone please verify if Prism is not a griefer talent now? When it was in the class tree it didn't heal through Atonement at all making it completely useless.
ok I'm just gonna talk about Disc coz holy and shadow could go die and I wouldn't care. here we goDisc has big problems in M+ and it's GODLIKE BROKEN in raids. if it goes like this in live version, you gonna nerf disc to the ground. Evangelism + Spirit Shell + Light's wrath + Longer duration schism + Mind games + Divine agies? No other healer can compete in any shape or form with disc in raids. guilds will stack discs on top of discs. I don't see the reason to bring any other healer in a raid while they don't even get to put a single heal out while everything is being absorbed. don't get me wrong, this has been the fun of disc to screw over all the healers for many years but we all know you gonna nerf it. in dungeons thou... it's not gonna work. the only damage build is Mindbender prism. it's no good. capped at 5 targets and no synergy coz it's designed around shadow, coz shadow has more charges of mind blast so it can trigger more prisms. but with disc we have only one mind blast and one SW Death, which could proc twice at best. if the SW death proc was infinite procs of resetting the cooldown if it didn't kill the target then it would be closer to ok. but again it's capped at 5 targets and we all know, Anything that's capped is useless. so right away if there are 20 mobs in a pull (which we know there will be), maybe we should spam Holy nova instead of going for Prism. And holy nova with all it's talents around it is still boring. it lacks synergy with anything else. it doesn't give any considerable atonement healing and it has no cool rotation, it's just spamming 1 button for Aoe damage. the only thing I like about it, is the tools of the cloth talent, coz it makes a mini rotation to keep shield on cooldown and using holy nova but again it's not that cool.If you want answers and ideas for the shadowflame prism problem: make it uncapped, remove the rift duration increase and trigger a rift with any shadow spell (Mindgames, mind blast, SW Death, Dark penance, Schism). take a breath it's not OP, it's just fine. Also there's tooooo much buttons for god's sake. disc was already complicated before and now we have to put renew and flash heal and all the new stuff in our action bars. please start counting the buttons on a keyboard, it doesn't work like this.Not having an interrupt although priest's interrupt is the weakest is not good too. And, please swap the Dispel magic and purify disease, the disease dispel should be the thing on top, not the offensive dispel.About Shadow covenant: why does it have to have a downside? why? remove the downsides and we'll be fine.
They mentioned "rotational clutter" concern for Mistweavers with many low impact abilities with small CDs. In DF classes are getting a lot of new buttons to press, but Priest is getting a lot of small CDs. My action bars are overflowing with CDs. Now I'll have to watch a 7 sec PW:S CD, 15 sec Shadow Mend CD in addition to many others added back. I like that PW:S finally sounds impactful, but I'm drowning in small CDs.Oh yeah and to lose GFade on top of this clutter and what seems to be worries about two spell schools - shutting down the fun outplays in PvP - what's left? I hate to reroll, I never reroll because of balance if I genuinely like the class, but I'm afraid this will really gimp the fun.