Where the heck are the Dranei in all of this? I mean, the Alliance does have a freaking SPACE SHIP now, and the Exodar isn't THAT far away from Teldrassil! How the heck do we get to/from the Exodar now? Or is the Vindicaar the new home of the Dranei?
I'm still torn. On one hand, I loved the final prepatch week's event. I love watching the reactions of my guildmates on both factions. On the other hand, seeing the *really* angry player reactions has gotten old *very* quickly. You'd think if they had their way, we'd still be reliving the vanilla storylines. Things change, can't expect something to stay static, especially a game that has been going on for over a decade. I get it, I really do. No lie here, both Teldrassil and The Undercity were my favorite cities on each faction (I know most people didn't care much for UC, but I just loved it. If you had to design an underground castle-sewer-system turned walking corpse community, *that* is how to do it. I remember when I had first walked into it, getting all nerdy at seeing the old undead buildings remade in warcraft down there.) I also understand the dislike of change. I'm still not completely used to the cata changes to the zones, even after all this time. But some of this anger is just too much. Some people might need more going on in their lives :\ change is inevitable, even in a fantasy setting. As for people worried about the storytelling in general...I admit, I've grumbled a lot at the many plot holes that appear and character redesigns lol. I can be a bit of a snob in that regard. But there's still a huge difference between being unhappy with what we may consider poor storytelling, and the weird rage that comes along with other people. Not only is it annoying for the rest of us to deal with, but for those people's own sake they should relax. Blood pressure problems from something that doesn't matter outside of the fictional setting is not a good look >.>Personally...I don't know where they're going with this. But so far? I don't hate it. Sylvanas' still is acting like Sylvanas. Harsh, but she's always been the type to play the endgame. even in her living form in wc3. She destroyed her own cities property (bridges specifically) to try to route the undead. Sure, death has made her angrier, a city full of civilians isn't exactly a bridge...but it follows the same train of thought. she's still her. Saurfang's still the tired old warrior, Anduin is still the overly naive but well meaning boy-king, etc etc. As of right now, no characters have done a weird 180 with their characters, not like blizz used to do (I'm looking at you, Kaelthas during TBC. I'm still not over that bad storytelling blizz! hehe). I'm rather interested to see where they're going with this. Not everyone may like it, but azeroth is undergoing another change and (so far, at least) it's being done far better than cata. I'm all for it.
Spoken like a true lawyer. "We think the problem is fixed". You clearly think wrong then, because it's still a long way from fixed. You increased the time it takes to level by roughly 300%, so an UP TO 24% reduction months after the players complained is not a solution. This is the Pathfinder "compromise" all over again, with Blizzard telling its paying players how you have to play rather than giving players options (or outright removing those options as was the case with much of the levelling changes in 7.3.5).
Blizzard's trying to trick us with Sylvanas? Only other alternative for her is to either get redeemed which they already did with Kerrigan in Starcraft or she becomes an agent of either the Old Gods, Void Lords, or Bolvar/Lich King which, either way, would make her a raid boss and an enemy. And again, they already pulled that with Lady Vashj and Kael'thas.Blizzard's not very clever. But their greatest trick yet was WoD and stringing along players for months before finally telling us the truth about their agenda. I'm honestly now disappointed I bought not only the Sylvanas statue but several shirts featuring her. If there's a trick being played, I feel like it's on me for having wasted so much money on someone who's going to bite the bullet soon.I suppose maybe Blizzard could have Sylvanas lose her body and ends up needing a new one. That could then spark her taking Calia's body. Nathanos getting a new body will likely lead to something But that's not much of a twist, either. Or Alleria tries to kill Sylvanas due to the Void influences which turns Vareesa against her. They're setting up something between the Windrunner sisters, but I doubt it'd really be that interesting or something most players will even notice. Begs the question how many even register Sylvanas, Vereesa, and Alleria are even sisters even if Blizzard has all 3 display their last names.Blizzard's not clever. Whatever happens with Sylvanas, chances are they already did it or something similar with another character before.The biggest twist Blizzard could do is have Sylvanas let the Forsaken die resulting in those who don't want to die running to Calia or she figures out a way to mass swap bodies allowing Forsaken to have the current models or more living (like Nathanos) models to choose from. Or she finds a way to restore at least some life to the Forsaken to stop them from dying. That'd be the Horde equivalent to Kul Tiras getting both burly and standard human models. Calia will likely be the answer to the Forsaken's problem regardless.Well, another twist Blizzard could do is Sylvanas kills Mia, rezzes her as a Forsaken, and sends her back to Greymane causing him to be torn between killing his own wife or letting her live while having his wife then potentially fight him when he tries to go after Sylvanas. But I doubt Blizzard would do that one.Or Sylvanas reveals how to cure the plague which leads to a WotLK 2.0 expansion to finally take down the Scourge once and for all. But like that'd happen, either.
I seriously doubt we get garrosh 2.0 because sylvanas isn't fuelled by a thirst for power.It would be a repeat of Pandaria without 3 expansions of buildup.And on top of that, burning teldrasil is a sound tactical decision, the alliance fell into the trap but sylvanas didn't anticipate Jaina showing up.Let's be reasonable, conquering teldrasil then defending it or abandoning is a waste of horde forces, burning was meant to kill morale and set alliance for the failure that lordaeron was "You won... Nothing!"
To all the people complaining, let me just say.See you Tuesday.
I honestly don't know why people who seem to hate everything about the game spend so much time on here complaining. Some of your comments are so venomous -- maybe you should step outside; take a deep breathe. Do yoga, or something.Or you can keep raging at everything and everyone, and keep giving wowhead great engagement numbers. They thank you.
'We can absolutely trick you. If you think that we're doing something that's blatantly obvious and repeating itself, just stay tuned because we're probably setting you up for a surprise.'Unless either horde or alliance actually 'win' and start dominating the other then the road may be different, with 'surprises', but the end point will be the same. Peterc
Anyone who thinks Sylvanas "turned evil" either never played the games or is trying to get clicks and views. She's been evil since she got turned into a banshee and she only got worse after seeing that Super Hell awaits her when she dies.
Blizzard doesn’t care about their lore. Any character of any faction can do anything at any time as long as it moves the game in the direction they want to go. Nightborne joining the horde cause after all the ally efforts to liberate them? Just insulting. They couldn’t have tweaked it a bit and called them nightborne loyalists or mercenaries if they needed a “new” horde race? And the horde of demonic orc invaders with their immoral forsaken allies could never seriously be considered the moral equivalent of the allies no matter how many feathers the “noble” tauren stick in their headbands. If you like the game, play it. But don’t give the soap opera plot any more attention than it deserves.
"With major cinematics focusing Sylvanas and Saurfang, and nothing equivalent for the Alliance covering the Burning of Teldrassil, it would have been interesting to learn more about how the developers feel about the reactions of the Alliance as well"Is there much to discuss Alliance side? I know where we stand. Our young king wants to arrest or kill Sylvanas for her crimes but she has hundreds of years of tactical knowledge on him and will survive at any cost. That's what alliance will be trying going forward.....and that starts by bringing Kul Tiras on side.The story is horde focused because that's where the complexity is in it, with in fighting and hidden agendas.As Alliance I accepted long ago we are the white Knights, superman or Captin America types. That's fine but it does mean we will always be one dimensional. Which is to say we will always try and get the baddie!The only question I had was why wasn't Tyrande at the Battle for Lorderon? Surely she would want justice?