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November/23 Trading Post Weapons Easter Egg in Silithus - Xal'atath and Titans Dialogue
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2024/01/02 at 2:25 PM
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A new easter egg with the
Arsenal: Cosmic Weapons Cache
rewards from the November/23 Trading Post has been discovered! Thanks to Twitter user Korrin for the tip.
The
Twilight Hermit
is a NPC that was originally added to the game in Battle for Azeroth. The Hermit was already shrouded in mystery back then, as he was the person you would bring the
Wriggling Mass
you collected during your Island Expeditions.
In the quest
Wriggling Mass
, you would learn that holding the mass would plague you with visions, and by turning it in to the Hermit, you would learn he used to be plagued by the same visions - until the day Sargeras struck Silithus.
Please, lower your weapon, I mean you no harm. The whispers ceased speaking to me on the day that the wound opened.
I wish to spend my days atoning for what I have done in my life, perhaps I can help you.
You... I can see it in your eyes, you have seen the vision.
The goat, the pool, drowning in the icy blackness, does this sound familiar?
I can tell you its meaning. It means we are fast closing in on the end of this world, friend.
Back then, this was simply a hint about the Old Gods and what followed at the end of Battle for Azeroth. However, new developments with this NPC shows interesting dialogue for what the future might hold!
The
Arsenal: Cosmic Weapons Cache
was the Traveler's Log reward for the Trading Post in November/23, and contains 5 weapons:
2 weapons themed after the sword (
Gorridar, Darkblade of the Sunderer
and
Seetheras, Broadsword of the Sunderer
);
2 weapons themed after Titan designs (
Taesavir, Sword of the Grand Design
and
M'thorus, Dagger of the Grand Design
);
1 weapon themed after the Harbinger (
Voidsong, Stave of the Harbinger
), who we now know to be Xal'atath.
Approaching the Twilight Hermit with either weapon transmogged will trigger new dialogue options with him, talking about Sargeras, the Titans and Xal'atath herself. We have all dialogue below!
Dialogue with no November Trading Post weapons equipped:
Please, lower your weapon. I mean no harm.
Dialogue with
Gorridar, Darkblade of the Sunderer
or
Seetheras, Broadsword of the Sunderer
transmogged below. As these two weapons resemble Sargeras's sword, the Hermit's dialogue, the dialogue talks about why Sargeras could have possibly chosen Silithus as the place to strike.
That weapon you hold... you should not have brought it here!
> You recognize my weapon?
I warned you before that the end times are coming. That weapon you wield proves it.
It emanates the same energies that coursed through the Dark Titan's blade.
Why did he strike this place? He was far too masterful a tactician to choose this target by chance.
His crusade sought to eradicate all life from existence. Do you think his final act before being captured by the Pantheon would not be in service to that goal?
Tread carefully, <class>, lest you inadvertently find yourself serving the same cause.
Dialogue with
Taesavir, Sword of the Grand Design
or
M'thorus, Dagger of the Grand Design
transmogged below. The two weapons are of Titan design, and the dialogue speaks about how the Titans and Sargeras are not so different when it comes to ways to achieve their goals.
That blade you hold... it profanes this place!
> You recognize my blade?
To bring a weapon like that here is to invite destruction, <class>.
The titans care only about their precious Order. They would sacrifice anything to achieve it--including their own followers.
Even the Dark Titan had a pattern to his actions. A cold logic intended to impose his perfect vision, and the willingness to eradicate existence if he could not achieve his ends.
Do you think the rest of his kind are any different? Only in method, not in goal.
Be careful that you do not blindly become a part of their plan.
Dialogue with
Voidsong, Stave of the Harbinger
transmogged below. The name itself says the weapon belongs to Xal'atath, who we learned is the Harbinger. The Hermit talks about the gifts given by the Old Gods back at the time of the Black Empire, as well as him being chastised by a certain presence...
Your stave... it whispers to me!
> You recognize my staff?
Do you have any idea how ancient that weapon you wield is, <class>?
There was a time when this whole world was ruled by the Black Empire. It was beautiful.
The masters bestowed gifts upon their faithful. That stave was one such instrument.
It was given to the Harbinger so that one day she might... she might...
What? No! I was not going to tell them! I... I...
<The orc goes silent, as if chastised by some unseen presence.>
The hints for what the Worldsoul Saga are piling up as we approach the end of Dragonflight. Are you excited to see what this new chapter of Warcraft has in store?
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Comment by
Bullseyed
on 2024-01-03T08:50:08-06:00
How do people find stuff like this? Super cool.
Data mining.
Comment by
Bullseyed
on 2024-01-03T08:52:31-06:00
"Titans bad because order" is still so cringe.
Order is inherently good, so pretending it's somehow bad isn't convincing.
Ah yes, casually supporting fascism.
Comment by
Bullseyed
on 2024-01-03T08:55:44-06:00
I miss the days when the titans were considered good guys.
They've literally never been the good guys of WoW unless you weren't paying attention.
Algalon says hi.
A lot of people are illiterate.
Plus all the playable races have the curse of flesh and ergo are products of the old gods.
Comment by
Bullseyed
on 2024-01-03T09:17:02-06:00
Oops. And here I got the weapon thinking it looked cool. Still like how, even as a mog, items retain their effects.
(which I didn't know about when I mogged my mages staff to be the "hidden" sheep one from legion and had it activate like the actual one.)
That's because of the way mogging works. Basically a field gets added to the individual item's data that says "Display as (item ID#)" and the game changes the model to that item, which also has the effect that the game treats it as such item for passive effects. There's a few cases where this doesn't work (like holiday achievements that need the actual item equipped because it relies on the equipped status, or combat effects which were purposely disabled) but most of the other passive effects do work.
This is also why combat animations dictate what can be mogged over what. If a wand were able to be mogged over a sword, your character would use the wand casting animation when swinging. Which obviously would look goofy, so it's intentionally not usable.
This isn't accurate because guns and bows mog do the proper animations, for example.
Comment by
Nagu
on 2024-01-03T09:37:13-06:00
Actual proof that the whole of BFA, Shadowlands and Dragonflight were filler expansions and not some elaborate story that was patiently awaiting for its conclusion. You could argue that the aspects needed their powers back but this could have been done in a single storyline not a whole expansion.
And Illidan returning in
Legion
means that
WotLK
,
Cata
,
MoP
and
WoD
were filler expansions?
No, i wouldnt think so because imho Legion was sort of a stab in the dark to hype the playerbase and bring back lots of what made the game fun and exciting in the first place. Tbc+wotlk are the meat and bones of wow. Instead of Legion we should have gotten a proper old god expansion, which could then lean nicely on what ended up happening in Legion.
However iam blabbering again, what i mean to say is that this here looks predetermined years upon years ago. They knew that they would come back to that sword one way or another sooner or later. In that sense prolonging exciting and interesting lore just because your marketing team dictates they have to pump out more irrelevant expansions that will be of lesser impact leaves them open for criticism as well as the actual fact that so far they have marketed expansions as followups of the story from one another, which i also always thought to feel forced and nonsensical. I wish they had the creative freedom to choose a road of random expansions without attempting to unify them like a marvel sort of thing.
However dont get me wrong this trilogy feels like its going to be amazing iam just talking purely from a narrative perspective point of view. Mistakes were made in the past. I aknowledge that its difficult to get an exciting ongoing mommentum at all times but it still feels like we got 3 watered down expansions (aka fillers), up until the War Within.
I feel like jumping straight into the Void and Titan expansions without the events and lore presented in BFA and Dragonflight (and to a lesser extent SL) would have been pretty jarring. We've learned a lot about the Titans and the Old Gods that we didn't know in Legion
Comment by
Riverb
on 2024-01-03T10:13:40-06:00
All I can think about is Saurfang saying nothing good comes from Silithus
Comment by
Drakknfyre
on 2024-01-03T17:51:03-06:00
Oops. And here I got the weapon thinking it looked cool. Still like how, even as a mog, items retain their effects.
(which I didn't know about when I mogged my mages staff to be the "hidden" sheep one from legion and had it activate like the actual one.)
That's because of the way mogging works. Basically a field gets added to the individual item's data that says "Display as (item ID#)" and the game changes the model to that item, which also has the effect that the game treats it as such item for passive effects. There's a few cases where this doesn't work (like holiday achievements that need the actual item equipped because it relies on the equipped status, or combat effects which were purposely disabled) but most of the other passive effects do work.
This is also why combat animations dictate what can be mogged over what. If a wand were able to be mogged over a sword, your character would use the wand casting animation when swinging. Which obviously would look goofy, so it's intentionally not usable.
This isn't accurate because guns and bows mog do the proper animations, for example.
Somehow you completely misunderstood what I said and got it completely backwards. Of course guns and bows display the proper animations. The animations used
are controlled by the model displayed.
The inability to mog certain things over other things are intentional limitations. If we could mog wands over swords then a Warrior using a sword
mogged as a wand
wouldn't swing it like a sword but rather use the wand cast animation, which of course would look stupid AF.
Hunters were originally the only class allowed to cross-mog weapon types. When they loosened the restrictions they kept them within the same class of weapons (1H to 1H, 2H to 2H) because the animations weren't crazy different.
Comment by
tupolew519
on 2024-01-04T07:56:43-06:00
oh wow
Comment by
warlocktank
on 2024-01-04T09:30:30-06:00
I miss the days when the titans were considered good guys.
the titans were never the good guys. we just knew more about them (which is still miniscule) compared to the other cosmic forces.
Comment by
warlocktank
on 2024-01-04T09:33:32-06:00
I miss the days when the titans were considered good guys.
They've literally never been the good guys of WoW unless you weren't paying attention.
Algalon says hi.
A lot of people are illiterate.
Plus all the playable races have the curse of flesh and ergo are products of the old gods.
well we don't know about any old god presence on argus or draenor. so we really don't know if all were given the gift of flesh.
Comment by
Gnarledoak
on 2024-01-07T12:31:45-06:00
"Titans bad because order" is still so cringe.
Order is inherently good, so pretending it's somehow bad isn't convincing.
Order is only "good" if mixed to a balance with chaos. The Titan's want to order everything in order (pun intended) to CONTROL it.
Us mortals are seen as "cursed" and an anomaly that bears watching, to be eradicated if required to maintain their Order.
Let's wait and hope the conspiracy that CM spoke about is something worthy of a great twist in the story we are playing, which I am sure it will be.
The theories Pyro is talking about (and other streamers like Acco and Bel) give hope that we will look back at the end of the Saga and be able to say that Blizz wrote a detailed and maybe even "giga-brained" story. There are enough breadcrumbs and foreshadowing that makes this seem more than likely (alright, a little bit of hopium was huffed to write this).
Comment by
ichigosr5
on 2024-01-08T12:11:35-06:00
I miss the days when the titans were considered good guys.
That never was the case. Do you not remember Algalon in Ulduar from Wrath of the Lich King?
Algalon the Observer: "I have seen worlds bathed in the Makers' flames, their denizens fading without as much as a whimper. Entire planetary systems born and razed in the time it takes your mortal hearts to beat once. Yet all throughout, my own heart devoid of emotion... of empathy. I. Have. Felt. Nothing. A million-million lives wasted. Had they all held within them your tenacity? Had they all loved life as you do?"
Algalon the Observer: "Perhaps it is your imperfections... that which grants you free will... that allows you to persevere against all cosmically calculated odds. You prevail where the Titan's own perfect creations have failed."
The Titans have always been obsessed with "order", and have wiped out entire galaxies because of their ideals. They were never good guys.
Comment by
tooltip
on 2024-06-24T22:03:03-05:00
I miss the days when the titans were considered good guys.
That never was the case. Do you not remember Algalon in Ulduar from Wrath of the Lich King?
Algalon the Observer: "I have seen worlds bathed in the Makers' flames, their denizens fading without as much as a whimper. Entire planetary systems born and razed in the time it takes your mortal hearts to beat once. Yet all throughout, my own heart devoid of emotion... of empathy. I. Have. Felt. Nothing. A million-million lives wasted. Had they all held within them your tenacity? Had they all loved life as you do?"
Algalon the Observer: "Perhaps it is your imperfections... that which grants you free will... that allows you to persevere against all cosmically calculated odds. You prevail where the Titan's own perfect creations have failed."
The Titans have always been obsessed with "order", and have wiped out entire galaxies because of their ideals. They were never good guys.
I do recall Algalon. And I didn't like it either because I saw it for what it was: the seepage of moral relativism into the WarCraft lore that has since turned into a flood.
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