The Problems with the Druid Class Talent Tree in The War Within - Shared Issues Across 4 Specs

The War Within Publicado 23/07/2024 a las 10:32 por Pumps

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DRUID

All talent trees have had many talents move locations or have had their pathing updated.
New Talent: Oakskin – Survival Instincts and Barkskin reduce damage taken by an additional 10%.
New Talent: Fluid Form – Shred and Rake can be used in any form and shifts you into Cat Form. Mangle can be used in any form and shifts you into Bear Form. Wrath and Starfire shifts you into Moonkin Form, if known.
New Talent: Ursoc's Spirit – Stamina in Bear Form is increased by 10%.
New Talent: Instincts of the Claw – Shred, Swipe, Rake, Mangle, and Thrash damage increased by 5/10%.
New Talent: Lore of the Grove – Moonfire and Sunfire damage increased by 5/10%. Rejuvenation and Wild Growth healing increased by 3/5%.
New Talent: Starlight Conduit – Wrath, Starsurge, and Starfire damage increased by 5%. For non-Balance, Starsurge's cooldown is reduced by 4 seconds and its mana cost is reduced by 50%.
Improved Swipe has been removed from the talent tree and its benefit added to Swipe by default.
Moonkin Form has been removed from the talent tree and is now learned at level 10 for Balance Druids.
Swiftmend has been removed from the talent tree and is now learned at level 11 for Restoration Druids.
Heart of the Wild now reduces the global cooldown of affected Balance cast-time spells.
Cat Form now increases the range of auto-attacks and melee abilities by 3 yards.
Feline Swiftness now increases movement speed by 15%. Now a 1-point talent.
Thick Hide now reduces damage taken by 4%. Now a 1-point talent.
Natural Recovery now increases healing received by 4% and no longer increases healing done. Now a 1-point talent.
Astral Influence now increases the range of all your spells by 5 yards and no longer increases auto attack or melee ability range. Now a 1-point talent.
Primal Fury now also increases critical strike damage of Mangle by 20%.
Ursine Vigor now increases Stamina and armor in Bear Form by 15% for 4 seconds. Now a 1-point talent.
Guardian Druid improved Bear Form Stamina bonus decreased to 10% (was 20%).
Lycara's Teachings is now a 2-point talent that grants 3/6% of various secondary stats.
Forestwalk now increases your movement speed and healing received by 8% for 6 seconds. Now a 1-point talent.
Well-Honed Instincts' effect now occurs once every 120 seconds. Now a 1-point talent.
Mass Entanglement now roots targets for 10 seconds (was 30 seconds).
Tireless Pursuit has been removed.

State of the Druid Class TreeGlaring Shared Issues

Forced pathing through talents that have no benefit to your specialization

Incredibly weak point by point nodes comparatively to other specializations

Lacking useful utility and competitive defensive nodes

Pathing through what should be baseline abilities

Lackluster capstones

Overall poor pathing. Requires going through too many "filler" nodes to get to anything functional for your spec.

Pathing ProblemssharedspecializationsharedTaxes Too HighDruid Defensives bottomall 3 raids"Feeling" of TalentsProposed Solutions / WishlistDefensives

Remove the Bear Form amp nodes in favor of passive HP nodes

Stronger self healing and self sustain, baseline and a buffed would be nice

Adding another defensive button to the Druid kit

Bake Baseline Affinities into Starter Nodes

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Restoration Affinity - , , ,

Baseline Utility

Reworking Talents

- I mention this because it was baked into bear for Guardian then removed and added as a talent recently. Removing a passive and making it a talent is the opposite of quality of life. As a whole, Bear Form does not feel great to press as a defensive and alternative defensive tools should be created so that druid can become less reliant on Bear Form to live for specializations other than Guardian.

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Real defensive nodes

Quality of Life improvements

Bonus Druid fantasy

AoE CC Utility

Potentially strong shared cooldowns like or Incarnation.

Final Thoughts

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