Work orders suck the biggest pair of monkey nuts ever for me. Both in terms of making gold, but also as a user. Let me just buy stuff off the AH. SL leggo system worked fine (soul ash aside) for customising the items. Base item plus missives plus spark plus a consumables for embellishments. Done. No RNG. No forced BS social interaction.
I made so much gold in DF.. but not so far in 2024!Right now is the end of expansion, stockpile dumping phase. This is the time where tradeskills etc value plummets, and typically stuff like boosts goes up in price as people start to feel the FOMO of the tier ending. Doesn't seem like mettle crafts are worth as much either since we're all maxed-ish now. Work orders were really good to me, but so was the AH. Mostly flipping off-season materials during prime time prices, but sometimes consumables too, I did Shadowflame stuff for a while.But now, there's not much left in DF except speculating a bit on the fated season, and then prepping your "war within levelling kit" of consumables etc for each alt while they're still cheap.
As a casual gold maker DF has been pretty bad. The removal of the mission tables hurt a lot and no callings took away a daily task for some easy gold.The only really decent thing is looking for the magpies and gold world quests with dreamsurge.
I've been farming a special thing for a long time :)And they were almost always the same amount at AH, about 100g per pieceBut suddenly 14 days ago something happened.I think the farmers found out and now the price has been halved, so now it's also ruined because they undercut each other VERY much :)Wonder why people undercut so much, its just stupid
I miss being on my phone on the crapper in Legion and sending away dozens of 3k gold missions.
I'm sorry, but if Manthieus still hasn't maxed out his Blacksmithing, then that's a him problem. All professions were maxed out for me a long time ago.
In the real world economy, service and innovation is what distinguishes one successful business from another. This sentence - "Couple that with the way the Work Order system was implemented and the nature of profession gold making flipped from commodity to service system ..." seems like a common complaint from 'goblins', which I continue to find ironic. Most seem to want to make gold passively and with as little effort as possible. I would also guess that 'goblins' make up a small percentage of WOW's overall player-base. I would hope that the benefits of things like the region-wide AH (another common complaint) to the majority of the player-base are not lost.
Bad.
Just bring back 7.3's mission table. If all the players are filthy rich, maybe we can starve out the botters.
I really really really don't like the social aspect of selling work orders, it ruined goldmaking for me, BUT I still have Classic & SoD ;)(retail is straight cancer at goldmaking)
Interesting that a lot of people thinking gathering is dead, yes maybe Serevite Ore is only 30s each but you don't need to limit yourself to the current expansion if you are looking to just farm some gold. I was making about 20k/hour just from working on Legion Rank 3 gathering achievements, and I'm sure there's even better options for pure GPH.
anything that ruins AH exploitation is great imo. also the work orders system is great for my guild, he have everything among ourselves and the worst case scenario is letting the crafter know in the guild's discord or whatsapp group and waiting for him to log in.
If you are trying to build a name for yourself as the person to go to for profession stuff, Light help you if have a unique character in your name. Getting harder and harder to come up with names that aren't already taken, use to have a guild mate that bragged he would just make as many alts as the game would allow all name them various popular or niche names then just let them sit in capital cities. He thought it was funny getting people begging him for the name since all he did was play his main exclusively. He'd log in just to mock them through the mail they sent him.
I understand the complaints with the new way of earning money but I've put in the effort since the start and it has payed off big time. I spent most of Shadowlands barely able to afford my game time with gold and now I've more than managed to pay for it and kept it going easily. Getting in on the customer service side of things has been a god sent, even if I'm not a social guy at all. The interaction is minimal and the profits add up, and that's even with having return customers be rare...
The main issue for me is that I don't want to spend all day in trade chat spamming for Craft Orders. I actually want to go out and explore, do the campaign quests, level and gear my alts, collect patterns, mounts and pets, do the occasional raid with guild-mates... you know, play the game.I much preferred when you could craft, chuck on the AH, and maybe log back into your banking char & relist 2-3 times a day.There's an old principle in Computer Systems Design: K.I.S.S. Sometimes, less is more.
Slot machine crafting stats being considered a positive is the most ridiculous statement I've read on the topic in a while.Goldmaking being directly tied to what is nothing but a glorified slot machine is definitely not a positive. Crafting potions, flasks and similar being unprofitable unless you multicraft / inspire / resourcefulness the living hell out of it is quite the opposite of a positive. And it's much much worse is when it's very slightly profitable due to things such as resourcefulness, multicraft or inspiration, because that means the only way it becomes profitable is by pouring millions into it, or if you get exceedingly lucky.
I left the game for easily a year with both accounts and upon return, I only have one. The complete destruction of the economy with region wide everything ruined the game for me. I would not want to be a new player coming into this mess. As a new player, I'd much rather come in and get one gold for a copper bar and not have to worry about trying to catch up rather than the current region wide method where it's a few silver if you're lucky. I guess at least retail doesn't have weapon skills or it'd be a serious nightmare.The new professions felt like a never ending grind to the point that all I saw was the treadmill and I hopped off.