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Issue with Clans and Dark Clan Conversions in Diablo Immortal
Imm-l
Опубликовано
02.06.2022 в 12:59
RenataKane
Dark Clans are a system in Diablo Immortal's Cycle of Strife, associated with the Shadows faction, which you can join (or create) at level 43, once becoming a member of the Shadows faction. Clans are a social organization of players that you can join at level 30 (or create at level 40). Existing Clans can be converted into Dark Clans.
This all sounds very straightforward -- but it's turning out to be anything but easy. In fact, some players are unexpectedly finding themselves in a kind of limbo where they are permanently stuck in the final step of the Shadow ritual because they belonged to a normal (not Dark) Clan at the time they won the Shadow lottery, unable to join the Shadows and unable to progress further. Clans who want to convert are being faced with having to kick members who don't yet qualify for Shadow status.
This has been a complex array of issues to sort out, but we've been working hard to try to understand the facts as we know them.
Issues for Members of Normal Clans
To become a member of the Shadows faction, you need to be at least level 43 and complete a short questline in Westmarch following the final quests in Bilefen. You can then become a member of the Shadows -- the most common ways are as follows:
Enter the Shadow Lottery (12PM-1PM, 6PM-7PM and 9PM-10PM local server time) in Wolf Tavern in Westmarch. If you are accepted, you will become acknowledged as a member of the Shadows and receive one
Akeba's Signet
to give to a friend (or, as it turns out, donate to your Dark Clan)
Have a friend who is already a Shadow give you a
Akeba's Signet
, provided you meet the two major criteria of being at least level 43 and having completed the quest line.
Put simply: if you want to join a Dark Clan,
you currently need to leave your present Clan
before
you try to join the Shadows.
Do it before you enter the Lottery just to be safe.
Here is the problem you are trying to avoid: If you are a member of a normal Clan when you win the Shadow Lottery, you will receive a notification that you cannot join the Shadows because you are already in a Clan. It will then suggest that you donate your
Akeba's Signet
to the Clan -- presumably in preparation for your Clan converting to a Dark Clan. However, if you do this suggested step, you'll get stuck. Your
Akeba's Signet
is gone, you can't re-run the Lottery, and worst yet -- you can't be recruited by another Shadow or join an actual Dark Clan.
If you then leave your Clan, you will also lose the Signets you donated and you'll be stuck.
Your Signets become the permanent property of your Clan.
If you stay in your Clan, you will need to wait for your entire Clan to convert to a Dark Clan before you can then join the Shadows properly. This can take days, weeks -- or never, depending on the decisions of your Clan's leadership.
One possible solution was recently posted on r/DiabloImmortal -- you may wish to try this if you find yourself in this position:
"If you don’t have any signets in your bag, try clicking the magnifying glass next to the tracker for the quest. When it says 0/1 signets hit the button below anyways, this allowed me to restart the chain and kill the 3 champs again. Same thing happened to me yesterday and magically worked this morning."
Leave a comment below if this works for you!
Issues Converting from Clan to Dark Clan
Only the Clan Leader can convert a Clan to a Dark Clan.
When an existing Clan decides to become a Dark Clan, this causes all kinds of problems for members who aren't yet members of the Shadow faction, either because they haven't joined or because they don't qualify.
Clans can be created at level 40, and people can start joining the Clan at level 30. However, you must be a Shadow to join a Dark Clan, which means you must be level 43. Before you attempt to convert the Clan to a Shadow Clan, you will first need to remove all characters who are lower than level 43.
To convert a Clan, you will need 1
Akeba's Signet
in the Clan's inventory for every member in Clan. They receive
Akeba's Signets
from donations from members.
We converted our own Clan here at Wowhead to a Dark Clan, and promptly discovered that we had to kick out every single member except the one who was both level 43 and had an
Akeba's Signet
from the Shadow Lottery. So while many of us are still together in a Warband, our Clan is "gone" except for one person, since most of us have not fulfilled the requirements.
A Clan can convert the entire clan -- but they will have to have enough
Akeba's Signets
to cover invites for all members. Presumably this means that everyone in the clan has to have won a Shadow Lottery and donated their
Akeba's Signets
to the clan, and then wait until the number of donated Signets equals the number of members. So, for example, for a clan of 40 members over level 43 to convert to a Dark Clan, the Clan needs to wait until at least 20 members have completed enough of the quest line to receive their two
Akeba's Signets
, and have donated both their Signets to the clan until that Clan's signet count equals 40. THEN they can convert.
Needless to say, this will take a very long time with a large clan.
This seems unnecessarily cumbersome and difficult, especially for this first round where people are joining clans early, but then find themselves held up from joining Shadow while the rest of the clan catches up.
Possible Solution: Clans AND Dark Clans
The simplest answer from the players' perspective (not necessarily from Blizzard's perspective) is to go back to the system that existed in Alpha: allow people to belong to both a Clan
and
a Dark Clan. Make them separate entities -- Clans for social reasons, Dark Clans for progression. We can already join both Clans and Warbands -- just make these different.
This also removes a problem where people may wish to join a particular Clan to be with friends who may have a totally different playstyle. Players who want to be more endgame competitive can join more competitive Dark Clans; players who wish to be more casual can do so without losing the social connections of the main Clan.
Without this step, it's hard to see the purpose of a Clan at all. Most DI players will likely want to join Shadows at the least, since it gives a lot of great perks and there is no advantage to remaining an Adventurer. But as soon as most players turn 43, they're likely going to want to join Shadows and a Dark House for those advantages.
Guides
We have guides about joining a Clan and about joining/forming Dark Clans that can provide more information:
Shadows Overview in Diablo Immortal Clans and Warbands in Diablo Immortal
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