Azshara was ALWAYS a servant of the Old Gods. Everyone pretty much knew that. She and her people were literally turned into serpent sea people by dark magic...who else but the old god under the tides? Yes Azshara is evil by nature and will do what she wants but her wicked mind lines up with N’zoths. Can people stop crying about it? Those same people never understood epic lore characters like Azshara anyway if they’re surprised by this not new information.
Azshara is no shock. I pretty much pegged her transformation as an Old God thing the moment I read the last book of the War of the Ancients trilogy. The fact that N'Zoth has been up to this point a more-or-less silent actor makes it even more terrifying than the other three Old Gods; while invoked by name quite a bit during the Cataclysm, it has not really made its presence known "in person". Although C'Thun did not make its presence known really all that much outside of Ahn'Qiraj either, not like Yogg-Saron, whose influence covers at least half of Northrend (and lets you know it, too - Whisper Gulch in the Howling Fjord, Vordrassil in the Grizzly Hills, so on). And of course, Y'Shaarj, even in death, still the center of attention with the Sha and the whole mess with Siege of Orgrimmar.As for Med'an, he always struck me as being like somebody's RP character when they expect all in sundry to bow before them - not quite unlike this fool who plays on my RP server who tried to roleplay their character as the Highlord of the Silver Hand and wielder of the Ashbringer and expected us to just accept it, because "it's my character and I demand that you respect how I play it". And honestly, while I found the ending for Cataclysm anti-climactic due to the major deus ex machina in the form of Thrall and the timey-wimey Dragon Soul, there is some small consolation that Thrall kinda got his comeuppance later on. His moment of PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER! (though not quite an itty bitty living space) was brief, it's over, and as time went on, he became virtually irrelevant. I mean, does he ever re-appear after the whole business with the Doomhammer (him losing it if you didn't decide to go Enhancement as a shaman, and him saying "it's better for you than for me" if you did)? I don't remember seeing him after that.
Anything Old God related is always interesting. I'm so happy Med'an is retconned though, off with his head!
Instead of retcons, why not just avoid making bad stuff? Everything I've read about Medan was bad; he sounded like the worst kind of fanfiction that got forced in because of someone's fetish. As for N'Zoth, it's nice that he is a smart monster instead of a ridiculous one that just throws its weight around like a bumbling idiot (literally EVERY old god related boss, basically). Though it does tie up a bunch of loose ends, and gives us a humorous retelling of how it was all according to plan, it's still pretty dumb no matter how you look at it. It's just fanfiction given canon status; people speculated this kind of nonsense so long ago, and now it's real. Of course, this begs the most important question;WHY NOT PUT GAME LORE IN THE GAME IT IS MEANT FOR INSTEAD OF A CASH GRAB BOOK? The most infuriating part of this entire thing is that it's wasted in a worthless book, rather than in the very game that all of this should be taking place in. The only acceptable game books are instruction manuals and magazines like Game Informer and Nintendo Power. Drives me nuts that the books exist and are required reading if you want to know what is going on, and why the lore is suddenly pants on head stupid in the newest expansion. Huge plot holes are terrible, no exceptions.
I don't get why everyone is so upset about everything being a brilliant long-term scheme by the Old Gods. I mean, people doing stuff because the Old Gods were pulling the strings does not necessarily mean they aren't acting on their own accord; I mean, the naga and Azshara could have been under the Old Gods' influence but still join Illidan and the Blood Elves because they felt some kind of bond to them.We know the naga became naga because of N'zoth, that's never been a secret, it has always been said that the group of elves led by Azshara were twisted by the Old Gods, and the Old God related to the sea has always been N'zoth. Is it so hard to think that maybe the whispers of this Old God have driven the naga to do what they have done since they were introduced? Old Gods have been working in the shadows for a long time now, and have been a part of every single major event in Azeroth. It makes sense that every single thing that happened has been influenced in some way by them.As of Med'an... I didn't hate his character per se, but he would not fit the current lore. It would not make sense that he made an appearance in the game now. I'm glad they finally removed.Now, if they would tell us why they didn't bring Wrathion back for Legion after all the build up they made about him in Cataclysm and Mists of Pandaria...
I think people are confusing influence for servitude.Some worship the Old Gods.Some are just very lightly steered in the direction N'zoth needs them to be.This isn't a case of "Everyone was mindcontrolled!"It's more political than supernatural.
So how did Aegwynn die? In the comic she died to protect her grandchild.I am extremely disturbed by Blizz's action against Med'an. Unpopular as he was, you can't just retcon or remove a character, part of history, simply because s/he wasn't popular enough. They did that with Illidan prior to Legion, try to make him a more appealing person than in the original lore, it's annoying.History is full of people and events we like and dislike, erasing your own creation base on popularity is disrespectful to it, almost like a FB user try to delete an unpopular post instead of OWNING the mistake. Just accept Med'an was a bad character, his story dull, and we could move on for the better.
....Soon the hour of twilight will arrive and all will usher in our coming.... oups sorry how was your day? Need some help against the legion? Can you summon me please because my character is stuck in Nyalotha?
Look, after dealing with the Legion and killing the stronger Old Gods, I cannot take N'zoth as a bigger threat. Only reason he is even a threat now is because the stupid faction war restarting ''By his design'' I bet.That ''Just as planned'' crap from Old Gods getting really old.
It's lame that so many races/characters are discovered to just be bad guys just cuz of old gods. Azshara isn't news but now everyone else and their grandmas have jumped on the big evil bandwagon.Prefer it more if some of them are antagonists due to their own nature or story rather than just "they spilled old god juice on their shirts." More and more it implies that Azeroth would be completely peaceful and no one would feel "bad" emotions and no conflict would ever arise if there weren't old gods, which is really boring in a game where conflict drives everything we do.Also, retcons = worse storytelling than the bad storytelling that they wanted to retcon. Medan was pretty dumb, but deleting a character and the story around that character (which bleeds into other characters) is just frustrating and unsatisfying. To me, anyways.
Like a lot others have said, the whole "OLD GODS ARE BEHIND EVERYTHING" feels VERY forced.That said, I would never have thought they would do something as beautiful as 404 Me'dan, so maybe there is hope.
hah, illidan was an old god puppet.although, I am wondering, what war would illidan destroying the lich king cause? are they refering to that "the scourge would go crazy without a leader" thing? because at the time all this was happening, the horde and alliance were pretty peaceful, having just worked together to defeat the legion on kalimdor.
I'm not against the fact that N'Zoth is behind... Almost everything in wow, when it is not some other Old God or Old god servants... But i would prefer it to me... I dunno... More subtle than just "He did this, and this, then this, and this..." Azshara, Arthas, Illidan, etc... They all have their own agenda. I don't feel like, by being used by an old god, have this taken away... They all do things according to their own desires without, for most of them, knowing that they are playing into the palm of a God's hand, inside a major scheme. N'Zoth is, after all, a god. He lived for thousand of years, knowing so much more than what a human - for exemple - would understand in a hundred years. For the same reason, when Chronicles say he is "responsible" for the quilboars and such, I don't think it retcons what was already said in game... Yes, they were created by the daughter of Therazane that went mad ( you know, madess, one of the old gods favorite tools ), and yes, they were then used by the Legion... But it can easily be seen as another work of N'zoth in the background, shapping things how he wants. N'Zoth is, after all, a God. I have no problem with him being all cosmic-wide-planning-like... But it is not what is told here which bugs me, but more how it is told. It is just poorly written, splashed into our faces... And this is kinda meh. Old gods tends to follow like an hommage - even if now it feels more like a simple "I copy this but change it a little" - to H.P. Lovecraft Mythos... It's too bad they didn't caught-up with his way to describe the inexpressible to do it.
