Mythic+ Hotfixes for November 16th - King's Rest, Temple of Sethraliss, Shrine of the Storm, Underrot

Live Posted 2018/11/16 at 8:10 PM by Squishei

Deep SmashAncestral FuryExplosive nerfsUnderrot / Tol Dagor Timer nerfsKing's RestKing's Rest Dungeon Guide

Absorbed in Darkness Standing within a Pool of Darkness inflicts 23,48611,743 Shadow damage every 2 sec.
Ancestral Fury Increases damage done by 100%50%.
Hidden Blade Throws a poisoned blade at a player, inflicting 18,7899,395 Nature damage and creating a pool of Lingering Poison every 2 sec. for 8 sec.
Seduction Seduces the target, charming them for 308 sec or until they would be killed.

King's Rest TeemingSpectral BruteSpectral BruteFIVETemple of SethralissTemple of Sethraliss Dungeon Guide

Galvanize Players standing in between Galvazzt and the energy core will prevent Galvazzt from gaining energy; but will take 4,2093,157 Nature damage themselves. Further damage from Galvanize is increased by 10% for 10 sec.
Embryonic Vigor The caster is invigorated with the stolen life of the egg's embryo.
The caster is healed for 50%10% of their maximum health and has all damage dealt increased by 30% for until cancelled.

Shrine of the StormShrine of the Storm Dungeon Guide

Anchor of Binding Conjures up a spiritual anchor, inflicting 36,70018,350 Frost damage and binding targets struck in place for 4 sec.
Deep Smash Inflicts 37,00018,500 Frost damage to an enemy. Globules of water erupt from the target, additionally inflicting 16,554 Frost damage to targets they land upon.

The UnderrotThe Underrot Dungeon Guide

Sonic Screech Inflicts 26,50213,251 Physical damage to enemies within 30 yards. Interrupts spell casting of all enemies within 30 yards for 3 sec.

Trinkets

This change occurred 10 days ago -- the Taloc Trinket Construct Overcharger was significantly buffed.

Titanic Overcharge Your attacks have a chance to increase your Haste by 2640 for 10 sec, stacking up to 8 times.

Tidal Pod Inflicts 3224 Frost damage to an enemy. Globules of water erupt from the target, additionally inflicting 22 Frost damage to targets they land upon.

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Comment by uoyhoKR nerf seems to be completely pointless. I can't catch what exactly they tried to rebalance in that dungeon. Not to mention that it's the one of the easier ones on almost any week other than Teeming and Grievous.

Shadow of Zul nerf was not required at all. After the last nerf it's no longer a troublesome encounter.

The nerf to Ancestral Fury is mostly irrelevant. Over 70% of the groups run at least either a Druid or a Hunter who can soothe it. If anything it might only help with Teeming or at lower levels of play

Hidden Blade nerf is irrelevant because all healers but Discs and Rshams can dispell it anyway. Neither of these healers have a specific issue of being underpowered for this dungeon, so I'm not sure where this nerf is going

Seduction nerf is the only decent one. However, once again, most groups run at least one of the following classes who can purge it: dh, hunter, warlock (felhunter), priest, shaman. Or they have at least 1 blood elf.

Comment by JaasceMMO-C has the Embryonic Vigor nerf listed as a nerf to the buff's cooldown reduction effect rather than the 10% max health heal. Does anyone know which one is correct?Comment by hyousukeKr is currently 1 off the harder key's for most group's, Raider.io is reflecting that aswell. just because your M+ group is having a easy time in there, dosnt mean others would.

Shadow of Zul needs a nerf to the shadow bolt debuff he hit's on the tank, since it's currently blasting the tank. we did a 17 king's rest and the blood dk and disc priest had a combined hps of 60k, only to the tank and still we couldn't out heal it and had to kite him all over the place at the end just to finish him off. on a tyrannical week.

i do agree that the nerf to Zul was irrelevant since you would los the shadow pool spawning, but currently being 1 off the hardest dungeons to do it's still not nerfed enough. (p.s Berserker bleed)Comment by zacheklundKR nerf seems to be completely pointless. I can't catch what exactly they tried to rebalance in that dungeon. Not to mention that it's the one of the easier ones on almost any week other than Teeming and Grievous.

Shadow of Zul nerf was not required at all. After the last nerf it's no longer a troublesome encounter.
The nerf to Ancestral Fury is mostly irrelevant. Over 70% of the groups run at least either a Druid or a Hunter who can soothe it. If anything it might only help with Teeming or at lower levels of play
Hidden Blade nerf is irrelevant because all healers but Discs and Rshams can dispell it anyway. Neither of these healers have a specific issue of being underpowered for this dungeon, so I'm not sure where this nerf is going
Seduction nerf is the only decent one. However, once again, most groups run at least one of the following classes who can purge it: dh, hunter, warlock (felhunter), priest, shaman. Or they have at least 1 blood elf.

All other dungeon nerfs seem to be pretty reasonable.Comment by VenestalkerKR nerf seems to be completely pointless. I can't catch what exactly they tried to rebalance in that dungeon. Not to mention that it's the one of the easier ones on almost any week other than Teeming and Grievous.

Shadow of Zul nerf was not required at all. After the last nerf it's no longer a troublesome encounter.
The nerf to Ancestral Fury is mostly irrelevant. Over 70% of the groups run at least either a Druid or a Hunter who can soothe it. If anything it might only help with Teeming or at lower levels of play
Hidden Blade nerf is irrelevant because all healers but Discs and Rshams can dispell it anyway. Neither of these healers have a specific issue of being underpowered for this dungeon, so I'm not sure where this nerf is going
Seduction nerf is the only decent one. However, once again, most groups run at least one of the following classes who can purge it: dh, hunter, warlock (felhunter), priest, shaman. Or they have at least 1 blood elf.

All other dungeon nerfs seem to be pretty reasonable.Comment by johncgaltNow, this Spectral Brute is still there, but accomplished by FIVE other mobs.
accompaniedComment by kurio1990Says Tol Dagor Nerf, but didn't list what it is? Anyone have any idea?Comment by HavocideConstruct Overcharger - Haste by 40 for 10 sec, stacking up to 8 times.

Says 60 on my trinket .Comment by TheDagorSays Tol Dagor Nerf, but didn't list what it is? Anyone have any idea?Comment by NurmatConstruct Overcharger - Haste by 40 for 10 sec, stacking up to 8 times.

Says 60 on my trinket .Comment by blakegatesKR nerf seems to be completely pointless. I can't catch what exactly they tried to rebalance in that dungeon. Not to mention that it's the one of the easier ones on almost any week other than Teeming and Grievous.

Shadow of Zul nerf was not required at all. After the last nerf it's no longer a troublesome encounter.
The nerf to Ancestral Fury is mostly irrelevant. Over 70% of the groups run at least either a Druid or a Hunter who can soothe it. If anything it might only help with Teeming or at lower levels of play
Hidden Blade nerf is irrelevant because all healers but Discs and Rshams can dispell it anyway. Neither of these healers have a specific issue of being underpowered for this dungeon, so I'm not sure where this nerf is going
Seduction nerf is the only decent one. However, once again, most groups run at least one of the following classes who can purge it: dh, hunter, warlock (felhunter), priest, shaman. Or they have at least 1 blood elf.

All other dungeon nerfs seem to be pretty reasonable.Comment by uoyho
"These changes greatly impact group compositions as King's Rest was very favorable to certain classes. Without a Poison, Enrage and Magic dispel, King's Rest took a longer time and/or was more difficult. This should lessen the reliance on these dispel types."

Please read, I know English is hard but please read. Alot of misconceptions occur when things are just skimmed over, if your gonna complainabout something, make sure you have read what it actually says first lol, as I said English is hard, and is probably the most confusing language commonly used today, so be proactive when it comes to English o/Comment by ZodiarccWoW
"These changes greatly impact group compositions as King's Rest was very favorable to certain classes. Without a Poison, Enrage and Magic dispel, King's Rest took a longer time and/or was more difficult. This should lessen the reliance on these dispel types."

Please read, I know English is hard but please read. Alot of misconceptions occur when things are just skimmed over, if your gonna complainabout something, make sure you have read what it actually says first lol, as I said English is hard, and is probably the most confusing language commonly used today, so be proactive when it comes to English o/Comment by somebearsI am pretty sure the addition of a brute and one mob to one of the harder pulls of the dungeon will break more groups/keys than a missing poison/enrage dispell ever will.Comment by TaomaIs this live for EU already?Comment by TOMRUSI don't understand that buff to King's rest, this was already hardest and most hated dungeon, why buff it?Comment by LightGuardianHotfix with explosives was success - cc'ed mobs are still spawn them. Glad to see new hotfixes!Comment by DhrallThese changes are great. Making dungeons more even in difficulty is important. The worst feeling is to finish a 16/17 in time and get kings rest and to back to 14/15..

I do not think the KR changes will be enough to make it close to even though. The gauntlet room is still going to be crazy on fortified and you still absolutely need a soothe for the enrage. So 100/50% isn't a big deal.

I think the worst balanced part of m+ is how punishing some affixes are compared to others though. Fortified, bolstering and in some cases teeming, grievous and sanguine is such a time sink. This week I am not even bothering with my main. Which feels bad.. I know I won't improve any of the scores I got last week, so I just play way less. Last week was so much fun, because the affixes were easier. I know making each week feel different is important, but when the differences are this huge it's just demotivating. Make the harder affixes easier and make the keystone level be the limiting factor is my wish!Comment by TOMRUS
I do not think the KR changes will be enough to make it close to even though. The gauntlet room is still going to be crazy on fortified and you still absolutely need a soothe for the enrage. So 100/50% isn't a big deal.
Comment by CharakI like how we've been telling them for months that shrine of the storms is the worst dungeon design in the game and they keep doubling down and telling us we're lying but here we are.