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Tier 11 Difficulty Data - Comparing Normal, Heroic, 10 Player, and 25 Player Stats
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08.06.2024 um 16:57
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With Bastion of Twilight, Blackwing Descent, and Throne of the Four Winds now out for over a week, we decided to take a look at the group data for their launch week to see statistical differences between all the different raid difficulties now present in Cataclysm Classic.
This data was collected by
Warcraft Logs
from May 30th to June 3rd, with the specific snapshot of data below being collected on June 4th around the weekly reset time.
Looking to have an edge against a raid boss? We have strategy guides for all 13 fights in Tier 11:
Bastion of Twilight OverviewBlackwing Descent OverviewThrone of the Four Winds Overview
Halfus Strategy GuideV&T Strategy GuideAscendant Council Strategy Guide
Cho'gall Strategy GuideSinestra Strategy Guide
Conclave of Wind Strategy GuideAl'akir Strategy Guide
Magmaw Strategy GuideOmnotron Strategy GuideAtramedes Strategy Guide
Chimaeron Strategy GuideMaloriak Strategy GuideNefarian Strategy Guide
Heroic Difficulty Curve
To start, we can look at the number of kills on Heroic for both 10 and 25-player modes.
10 Player Heroic Kills
25 Player Heroic Kills
In both difficulties, the easiest boss to begin progression on is Halfus Wyrmbreaker, with over 2100 kills on 10-Heroic and over 1800 kills on 25-Heroic.
After that, the next step seems to be the first five bosses in Blackwing Descent, with Magmaw and Atramedes being the easiest ones, followed by Omnotron Defense System, Chimaeron, and Maloriak. While the progression happens all in Blackwing Descent, Maloriak has half as many kills as other bosses, but the progression is fairly linear.
The next step in the difficulty curve is Valiona & Theralion and Conclave of Wind. After that, difficulty ramps up, and discrepancies begin between 10 and 25.
For 10m, Al'akir seems to be the easiest choice here, followed by Cho'gal and Ascendant Council. Note that while all Heroic bosses are required to kill Sinestra in Bastion of Twilight, you can kill normal Ascendant Council and then Heroic Cho'gall, which seems to be the choice for some guilds, as Cho'gall is easier and the loot is superior to Ascendant Council. The final bosses then are Nefarian and Sinestra, both with around 110 kills each during week one.
For 25m, Al'akir seems to have a similar difficulty to Sinestra and Nefarian, leaving Ascendant Council and Cho'gall as the next step after Conclave of Wind. After those, then 25m raids head into Al'akir, followed by Sinestra and Nefarian.
Population Comparison
One interesting aspect of the data is comparing the number of groups doing 10 and 25-player content. With lockouts shared in Cataclysm, players need to choose between 10 or 25-player raids for their characters. For Normal mode, we have almost
90,000
10-player kills between all Tier 11 raids while only having a little over
37,000
25-player kills logged. If you normalize for raid size, there's an even split in the number of players doing 10 and 25-player normal raids, which leads to a larger number of 10-player kills due to roster size.
For Heroic, the numbers change drastically. During the first week, there were
10,892
10-player Heroic kills logged and
10,058
25-player Heroic kills logged, which means that more than double the number of players doing 25-player Heroic content than 10-player Heroic content.
Difficulty Per Boss
The data offered by WarcraftLogs allow us to compare the number of attempts logged per boss versus the number of kills on each boss, offering a good insight on the average number of pulls each boss takes to die per difficulty and raid size.
10-Player Normal
25-Player Normal
10-Player Heroic
25-Player Heroic
The first thing you'll notice from those charts is the ramp-up in difficulty that is Nefarian on Normal mode for both 10 and 25-player raids. It represents a steep increase in difficulty and challenge for groups in every raid size.
Looking at Heroic, it is interesting to notice that every boss takes, on average, more attempts to kill in 10-player Heroic than in 25-player. This can be an indication of 10-Heroic being more difficult or perhaps that the best players prefer to do 25-player content. More research is required to pinpoint the cause of it.
Raw Data
10-Player Normal
Boss
Kills
Wipes
Kill %
Parses
Pulls per Kill
Omnotron Defense System
8093
595
93.2
8688
1.07
Atramedes
7666
1450
84.1
9116
1.19
Cho'gall
8189
1961
80.7
10150
1.24
Theralion and Valiona
8159
2380
77.4
10539
1.29
Halfus Wyrmbreaker
6473
2141
75.1
8614
1.33
Conclave of Wind
6368
2775
69.6
9143
1.44
Al'Akir
6897
4271
61.8
11168
1.62
Magmaw
7353
5370
57.8
12723
1.73
Maloriak
8321
6481
56.2
14802
1.78
Ascendant Council
8371
10697
43.9
19068
2.28
Chimaeron
8180
12203
40.1
20383
2.49
Nefarian's End
5869
67545
8
73414
12.51
25-Player Normal
Boss
Kills
Wipes
Kill %
Parses
Pulls per Kill
Omnotron Defense System
3599
175
95.4
3774
1.05
Halfus Wyrmbreaker
2204
207
91.4
2411
1.09
Atramedes
2978
281
91.4
3259
1.09
Theralion and Valiona
3268
676
82.9
3944
1.21
Cho'gall
3284
748
81.4
4032
1.23
Conclave of Wind
2522
895
73.8
3417
1.35
Maloriak
3604
1695
68
5299
1.47
Magmaw
3381
1836
64.8
5217
1.54
Ascendant Council
3404
2550
57.2
5954
1.75
Al'Akir
2681
2835
48.6
5516
2.06
Chimaeron
3533
5762
38
9295
2.63
Nefarian's End
2804
19960
12.3
22764
8.12
10-Player Heroic
Boss
Kills
Wipes
Kill %
Parses
Pulls per Kill
Halfus Wyrmbreaker
2162
18682
10.4
20844
9.64
Magmaw
1698
27168
5.9
28866
17.00
Atramedes
1644
10090
14
11734
7.14
Omnotron Defense System
1220
17352
6.6
18572
15.22
Chimaeron
995
11690
7.8
12685
12.75
Maloriak
857
6619
11.5
7476
8.72
Theralion and Valiona
742
15733
4.5
16475
22.20
Conclave of Wind
656
15510
4.1
16166
24.64
Al'Akir
270
7345
3.5
7615
28.20
Cho'gall
217
2288
8.7
2505
11.54
Ascendant Council
208
6111
3.3
6319
30.38
Nefarian's End
115
4467
2.5
4582
39.84
Sinestra
108
2661
3.9
2769
25.64
25-Player Heroic
Boss
Kills
Wipes
Kill %
Parses
Pulls per Kill
Halfus Wyrmbreaker
1840
11645
13.6
13485
7.33
Atramedes
1663
7146
18.9
8809
5.30
Magmaw
1395
21307
6.1
22702
16.27
Omnotron Defense System
1171
11234
9.4
12405
10.59
Chimaeron
1009
7821
11.4
8830
8.75
Maloriak
918
4387
17.3
5305
5.78
Theralion and Valiona
647
11131
5.5
11778
18.20
Conclave of Wind
483
8803
5.2
9286
19.23
Ascendant Council
235
5752
3.9
5987
25.48
Cho'gall
233
3353
6.5
3586
15.39
Al'Akir
174
4466
3.8
4640
26.67
Sinestra
153
2352
6.1
2505
16.37
Nefarian's End
137
3807
3.5
3944
28.79
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