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Marksmanship Hunter Review - Battle for Azeroth Community Opinions
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Throughout the pre-patch, we'll be launching a community opinions article for every class and spec. We're continuing our Battle for Azeroth Class Reviews and in this post, we'll be taking a look at the state of Marksmanship Hunter. See if this spec appeals to you in Battle for Azeroth!
We reached out to the Marksmanship Hunter community to give their thoughts and opinions on the changes and current state of the spec.
If this spec appeals to you after reading this article, check out our
Battle for Azeroth Marksmanship Hunter Guide
.
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is a Hunter Theorycrafter and Wowhead/YouTube Guide Writer and a Moderator/Expert in the Trueshot Lodge. He raids in <Happy Accidents>. You can find him in TSL, his Twitch stream
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Changes from Legion
Marksman Hunter has been completely reworked in Battle for Azeroth. Some of the abilities from Legion remain, however their usage and interactions with each other have changed.
Vulnerable, Marked Shot and Patient Sniper have been removed.
Focus regen has gone down from 10 Focus per sec to 3 Focus per sec
Base Focus has gone down from 130 in Legion to 100 in Battle for Azeroth.
Arkaner Schuss
and
Mehrfachschuss
are now Focus spenders
Our new Focus generators are
Zuverlässiger Schuss
and
Schnellfeuer
Gezielter Schuss
is now on a 2 charge system but remains our primary heavy hitter.
Präziser Schuss
has been introduced, empowering both
Arkaner Schuss
and
Mehrfachschuss
.
Einsamer Wolf
is now baseline. We benefit from
Einsamer Wolf
automatically when we do not have a pet out.
Pets have been completely reworked. All specs are now equal in DPS but provide different utility.
has been altered, now providing an additional
Gezielter Schuss
charge in addition to its Haste.
Gekonnte Schüsse
is now baseline and is a buff applied when you
Mehrfachschuss
more than 3 targets. It is capped at 6 targets.
How does the spec feel now?
The removal of Vulnerable and Patient Sniper have been a huge quality of life change. Losing these means that our damage no longer depends on stacking multiple damage modifiers, reducing overall RNG. Unlike Legion, Marksman’s damage distribution is very linear and has little to no RNG outside of a couple optional talents. Marksman now swaps targets with ease, occuring no penalty. The rotation is fairly straightforward and simple, perhaps even lacking a bit of depth. The spec feels fine on single target, but there are some very noticeable gaps in our AoE.
Gekonnte Schüsse
’ interaction with
Gezielter Schuss
has target restrictions, constraining
Schnellfeuer
to only spread up to 3 targets and
Gezielter Schuss
to 6 targets in total. While the target restrictions feel awful, other classes have received similar treatment. In addition, due to the rework and new interactions of our abilities,
is now an extremely underwhelming cooldown for us. This means we have very little burst potential in both single target and in AoE. Overall, Marksman’s gameplay is very smooth and the spell interactions work well with each other. However, while we’ve recently received some minor buffs and tweaks, much more needs to happen in order for Marksman to be competitive with the other specs in regards to damage tuning and talent adjustments.
Pets have been reworked. Many quality of life changes happened to pets, including auto turning off growl in instances and reduced aggro radius. Pets deal the same damage across the board and each pet spec offers a different form of utility.
Einsamer Wolf
is now baseline and allows us to choose to go without a pet, or to use a pet for some added utility and defensives. For more info on pets, check out our
Hunter Pet Guide
!
Talents:
Tier 1 (Level 15)
- This talent row is actually fairly balanced and if all the talents were tuned properly would allow for multiple types of gameplay.
Meister der Treffsicherheit
is the go to for AoE situations due to the immense Focus cost of our AoE rotation.
Schlangengift
and
Die Vögel
are more geared towards single target but both give options in terms of cleave.
Schlangengift
has an option to multi-dot while
Die Vögel
retains its reset mechanic.
Tier 2 (Level 30)
- The talents in this row are fairly unique in terms of usability. While
Sorgfältiges Zielen
has applications in AoE, it is primary used as a single target talent. It is very niche and only really usable in a raid environment. Since
Sorgfältiges Zielen
is dependent on
Gezielter Schuss
s, you much have a fairly long duration during the >80% and <20% health thresholds, which leans towards raids and discourages use in dungeons, leveling, etc. It is currently our best talent for single target raid situations but, due to
Gezielter Schuss
s target restrictions, this falls of in AoE compared to the other talents in this row.
Salve
and
Explosivschuss
are both heavily focused on AoE. The difference is
Salve
is purely RNG while
Explosivschuss
is a controlled short burst. The concept of
Salve
seems fine, but the talent falters when you think about AoE. AoE generally happens in short segments, either short windows of consistent damage (mobs in M+) or waves of adds at specified times (raid encounters). The RNG component of this hurts as
Salve
might not even proc when it’s needed for the add damage. On top of that, it’s damage compared to the other talents in this row is awful. We will never take
Salve
in its current state.
Tier 3 (Level 45)
- Most of the talents in this row remain from Legion.
Bahnbrecher
is primary use for open world content, leveling and old transmog runs.
Camouflage
is our go to PvP talent and has some niche uses in dungeons.
Natürliche Heilung
is a new talent in this row that slightly reduces the cooldown of
Freudentaumel
.
Natürliche Heilung
is really the only viable talent for most PVE outside of certain niche scenarios.
Tier 4 (Level 60)
- The talents in this row are meant to help you with your focus generation each in a different way.
Beständiger Fokus
reduces the cast time of
Zuverlässiger Schuss
when it’s cast consecutively. On the surface this talent seems strong, however due to a minimum GCD cast of 0.75 sec, we actually hit this with 2 stacks of
Beständiger Fokus
+ Haste buffs. In addition, due to how our rotation plays out, we typically don’t cast 2
Zuverlässiger Schuss
s in a row very often, let alone 3 or 4.
Optimierung
is pretty straightforward, giving your
Schnellfeuer
slightly more Focus regen and damage. It is currently our best talent in this row in any AoE situation.
Mal des Jägers
is primarily only used in pure single target situations. While it’s meant to be able to target swap onto priority targets (Gives focus when an add dies with it), the GCD placed on this talent highly discourages swapping your
Mal des Jägers
at all.
Mal des Jägers
is our best talent for pure single target in this row.
Tier 5 (Level 75)
- Similar to the other rows, this talent row has very unique uses.
Wildheit im Blut
is very niche. It’s reduced cooldown gives
Aspekt des Geparden
a shorter cooldown, giving more movement speed as well as reducing
Aspekt der Schildkröte
cooldown which may be usable in niche raid fights such as Fallen Avatar.
Impromptu
remains the same as it was in Legion, giving us movement speed and snare removal.
Bindender Schuss
is similar to Legion, however it’s lost the stun component to it. It now snares mobs rather than stunning them, which is much worse. The go to talent is generally
Impromptu
as it provides the most movement speed and utility of the three.
Tier 6 (Level 90)
- This row is very AoE centric.
Sperrfeuer
being the most obvious AoE ability, remaining the same as it has been for years.
Tödliche Schüsse
and
Doppelpack
essentially just buff our
Gezielter Schuss
and apply to
Gekonnte Schüsse
. Both of these talents have target restrictions just as
Gezielter Schuss
does, so they’re AoE is limited between 3-6 targets as well as having single target applications.
Tödliche Schüsse
and
Doppelpack
are actually very similar to each other.
Tödliche Schüsse
is totally RNG and can buff either your
Gezielter Schuss
or your next
Schnellfeuer
. You must pray that it aligns with
Schnellfeuer
.
Doppelpack
does the exact same thing but it is a controlled cast. You’re able to use it with
Schnellfeuer
over
Gezielter Schuss
every time. The downside is that its gated by a 1 minute cooldown. Typically,
Tödliche Schüsse
is better in pure single target and falls off in AoE due to the RNG component.
Doppelpack
performs well in single target but excels in mid-range AoE. Since
Tödliche Schüsse
and
Doppelpack
are restricted to 6 targets,
Sperrfeuer
takes over in mass AoE situations at 6+ targets.
Tier 7 (Level 100)
-
Sichern und Laden
is the default in this row since both of the other talents are severely undertuned at the moment.
Sichern und Laden
is similar to Legion but is now adapted to the new rotation. Only one charge is gained and its proc chance has been lowered to 5%.
Schießbefehl
is basically
Ullrs Federschneeschuhe
made into a talent which is really cool, however, its a very mediocre talent for us at the moment, due to
s viability.
Stichschuss
has been retained from Legion but now has a flat Focus cost. Currently its damage is undertuned.
Sichern und Laden
, as bad as 5% sounds, is the go to Talent in this row for every situation.
Recommended Changes and Tuning Issues:
- For a major 3 minute cooldown, this ability is very very underwhelming. We essentially gain 2 additional
Gezielter Schuss
s from it. During Legion, it was a massive cooldown due to its interaction with applying Marking Targets, increased Critical Strike Damage from
Tödliche Volltreffer
and both
Schnellschuss
and
Ullrs Federschneeschuhe
made it a very short cooldown, diversifying its usage. Currently, It's hardly a dps increase at all which feels awful for our only major cooldown, and a 3 minute one at that. In its current state, we are forced to use it during times of Focus regen.
Einsamer Wolf
- Currently after dismissing your pet, you gain the
Einsamer Wolf
buff, but on a ramping timer (Approx 1% every 6 sec for a total of 1 minute). The issue here is the ramp timer, not necessarily the ability itself. Having to wait a full minute to gain the full benefit of
Einsamer Wolf
feels very cumbersome. Any time you dismiss your pet, any time you get battle rezzed and any time you swap a Talent, it takes a full minute to gain the full 10% buff from
Einsamer Wolf
.
Schlangengift
- At the moment, this ability competes in single target but falls off hard as soon as you add in another target. The issue here is not the damage, it is the immense focus cost. While 10 Focus doesn't seem very much, our rotation, especially in AoE is very Focus consuming. At the moment we must take
Meister der Treffsicherheit
due to the high Focus requirement. Due to the high Focus cost, keeping up
Schlangengift
properly you actually must cast less
Gezielter Schuss
s because we physically do not have enough Focus to perform our rotation and keep up
Schlangengift
.
Salve
- This talent is way too RNG to ever be usable except on an AoE sustained fight which never happens. In most AoE scenarios, waves of adds spawn or in M+ for instance, groups of adds occur in 30-40 sec intervals. With
Salve
only being 10%, it might not even deal damage to certain mobs or during AoE. Due to its RNG nature, we would never take this over
Explosivschuss
. It's damage is also a fair bit behind ES in its current iteration, RNG aside.
Beständiger Fokus
- While this talent seems fine at first glance, there are a couple of glaring issues with it. First off, we rarely actually cast multiple
Zuverlässiger Schuss
s back to back. To perform optimal DPS, we must cast certain abilities on cooldown -
Gezielter Schuss
and
Schnellfeuer
- and we must dump our
Präziser Schuss
stacks with
Arkaner Schuss
. Because of the timings here along with the charge system of
Gezielter Schuss
, we typically cast 1
Zuverlässiger Schuss
to give us enough Focus to cast the following ability, and sometimes we cast 2 in a row when we have a slight bit of down time. We rarely cast 2 let alone 3 or 4 in a row like this talent encourages. Secondly, this ability becomes virtually useless during times of high haste i.e
and
Kampfrausch
(and
Berserker
). The baseline cast of
Zuverlässiger Schuss
is 1.75 seconds (typically it will be around 1.6 with most peoples haste levels, but these calculations are done without any haste considered). If you have 2 stacks of 20% reduced cast time this becomes baseline 1.05 seconds. Then taking into account
Kampfrausch
the cast time becomes .78 seconds. Since the minimum GCD is .75 seconds, the haste from
or
Berserker
is basically useless in terms of
Beständiger Fokus
if you have more than ~7.7% Haste. Much of this talent goes to waste throughout the fight.
Schießbefehl
- The talent itself is fine and is basically a carry over from
Ullrs Federschneeschuhe
. The problem here goes back to
itself in that this cooldown is not very useful for us. So reducing it’s cooldown doesn't really do much for us. This talent would almost have to be doubled for it to be worth taking with
in its current state.
Stichschuss
- Currently,
Stichschuss
is on a 30 sec cooldown and it does less damage then
Gezielter Schuss
.
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