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Kommentar von chimera

Mega-chainheal

Kommentar von Omnicrom

New Level 90 Priest Talent as of Beta Build 15508.

All Three of the level 90 Priest Talents are AoE Heal or Damage spells, this one looks like it sticks around for the longest time with 4 bounces and looks to work best when spread out because the damage and or healing increases when it travels further.

Because of this Cascade seems like it will be best for bosses with a lot of spread out moving. I imagine a boss with mechanics similar to C'Thun where you need to spread out a lot and be mobile would be made easier by using a long-lasting distance-friendly multi-target heal.

Kommentar von Alfador

> \ Cascade.

Kommentar von rodalpho

The devs told us exactly how Cascade works in MoP at the link below.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/5889309137?page=5#97

I'm pasting it here in case they retire the beta forums after release.

Cascade does a % of its max damage/healing based on linear distance between the source and target of the bounce. It does 40% of its maximum damage at 0yd, and 100% at 30+yd, scaling linearly between those two points (anywhere between 30yd and 40yd will give 100%). It prefers farther away targets when it bounces.

Kommentar von 327014

It's nothing close to Chain Heal but consider it your highly evolved Prayer of Mending. When it comes to rotation, this should be top on your priority list to CSS on cd. I will love this on my disc priest.
Thanks blizz for giving us something worthwhile in MoP.

Kommentar von 319936

Göttlicher Stern now deals 40% more damage and 133% more healing, and its radius has been reduced by 33%.

(Note: All the following calculations are based on 15500 sp)
if we use damage/cd to calculate the damage per time (dps/hps):

Göttlicher Stern 16,814/15=1,120.9; 1,120.9*1.4=1,569.3(Damage) 1,120.9*2.33=2,611.7(Heal)
Kaskade 25,220.5/25=1,008.8
Strahlenkranz 50,375/40=1,259.4(Damage) 84,099/40=2,102.5(Heal)

if we use mana/cd to calculate the mana per time (mps):

Göttlicher Stern 4.5/15=0.3
Kaskade 9.0/25=0.36
Strahlenkranz 13.5/40=0.3375

if we use damage/mana to calculate the mana efficiency (dpm/hpm):

Göttlicher Stern 16,814/4.5=3,736.4; 3,736.4*1.4=5,231.0(Damage) 3,736.4*2.33=8,705.8(Heal)
Kaskade 25,220.5/9.0=2,802.3
Strahlenkranz 50,375/13.5=3,731.5(Damage) 84,099/13.5=6,229.6(Heal)

also we should notice, especially for dpsers, more cast cost more GCD, if consider this, Strahlenkranz is easy winner on dps.
the thing really matter is, for Göttlicher Stern, it's the hardest to get the best effect. and Kaskade is the easiest one to get the best effect.
so, if counting to IDEAL situation, Göttlicher Stern is actually the winner, Kaskade is the looser.

Kommentar von Clebane

Some playstyle tips:

Gains the 15% aoe healing bonus from
Refreshes Erneuerung while in . Doesn't benefit from the 15% increased single target healing

So it acts both as a AoE heal and a single target, best of both worlds.

Kommentar von makaka

Good method for use cascade.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEmFlDs4GyU

Kommentar von guatafu

How does it work for shadow? Does it break your shadowform? Or is there a shadow variant like with Halo?

Kommentar von Magnatross

When cast at an enemy, it will only bounce to enemies that you are in combat with. Casting it at an ally will bounce to other allies regardless of whether any of them are in combat or not.

Kommentar von minduim0

When you cast this on yourself while plowing Sunsong Ranch, the cascade bolts bounce around the soil plots, "healing" them.

Kommentar von Serrinatta

Please note: That while blizz has fixed the issue with Halfhill (Mentioned by civgw), Cascade does still have a few bugs. It is best not to use this as a DPS spell while out questing and especially not while fighting world bosses.

Here's an example why not to:
Fighting a world boss, your team might be healer heavy (A rarity, I know), and so a healer decides to add a little DPS to the boss (and peg down a few adds while they're at it). Cascade hits the boss, splits, then hits the flagged player from the opposite faction (who just happens to be standing nearby waiting for a chance to mess up your progress). In no way did the priest intend to hit the flagged player, they even specifically targeted the boss. But no, Cascade does not care. Cascade will hit any flagged players, and your team is now down one priest.

Kommentar von Niveaulos

I've already postet this comment on the page of Divine Star So I'm gonna post it here too. (The original post took me too long to do and wasn't satisfying because I simply used 15'000 spell power, so I thought I'd do it this time with some graphs.. I won't post them as a picture in here but I'll give you the links to fooplot.com.. :)

For those who don't know exactly how to read a graph: There are 2 axes:
horizontal: The x-axis which represents the amount of spell power
vertical: The y-axis which represents the amount of healing/damage done per "x" spell power given

So in the following example you would do 20'000 healing/damage with 10'000 spell power (or 10'000 healing/damage with 5'000 spell power).

http://fooplot.com/plot/olwivoysr5

The question for me was, which one of the three lvl90-Talents to use as a Disc-Priest in PvP. My Problem as Disc is mostly the lack of Mana during a battle and of course, doing damage and healing enough as well. So my factors are:

Mana
Healing
Damage
Cooldown

Note: The following graphs are colored. Unfortunately I couldn't find a way to describe them directly on fooplot (please let me know if there's a way)

Red: Göttlicher Stern - Damage
Purple: Göttlicher Stern - Healing
Blue: Strahlenkranz - Damage
Light blue: Strahlenkranz - Healing
Green: Kaskade - Damage & Healing

Here's a little overview of the three different spells:

The average of each spell:
http://fooplot.com/plot/897yv8kdxz

Now let's put them down on the same level again. The mana first:

Adjusted to 4.5% base mana (-> Divine Star):
http://fooplot.com/plot/ongj2jdd7i

Note: You've got to zoom in a little because now they all get closer to each other.

And last but not least - The cooldown:

Adjusted to 15 seconds cooldown (->Divine Star):
http://fooplot.com/plot/kfguw11qq9

Now a few other aspects:
Göttlicher Stern: Useful in arena to detect stealth enemies, like rogues or druids. You can do it either at the beginning of the fight or when they use vanish or shadowmeld. Also, the spell is "casted twice" which means you have doubled luck chance of gaining a procc. You get a lot of heal during a "Zerg" or in a 10/25 raid whilst the group is on one spot or in a line. But in dungeons you have to take care so you don't pull unnecessary adds. The spell is casted in the direction you're looking, so you're quick enough to just spin with your mouse. And of course: it does the most DPS / HPS

Kaskade: This is great for healing a dungeon, because you will heal up to 15 targets at once, almost independent where the members are standing. You won't pull any adds because the spell doesn't heal and damage at the same time. But using this on an enemy can pull the whole room because it bounces to "idle" NPCs. Of course, it can be a disadvantage in PvP, because it doesn't hit a target more than once, and wont heal or do damage at the same time.

Strahlenkranz: Unfortunately they've nerfed this spell so you're no longer able to hit stealthed enemies. The advantage here is the fact that you can use it for bursting down your enemy, or save your ass in trouble (but remember: it won't heal you for the highest amount, because it reaches it's best effect at 25 yards. And you have to position yourself good, to get the best out of this spell). Using this spell in a Dungeonroom full of trash is a suicide commando!
Halo could do alot more/less when I would've calculated with the minimum and maximum of healing/damage instead of taking the average amount. If I have some free time I'm gonna add some graphics (even though I'm "scared" the graphics get flooded)

After these few graphs and personal opinions we can all see, that Divine Star became a major buff with patch 5.2, because I didn't calculate the "fact" (or 90% chance - whatever you want to call it) that Divine Star hits the target twice!

If you wonder: I (still) use Divine Star

Please correct me if I did something somewhere wrong and please tell me whether you do understand the graphs. Otherwise I'll search for some time to post some of the tables I did with Patch 5.0.5 :)

Hope my English isn't too bad, I'm Swiss. Swiss Chocolate! :D

Kommentar von 997771

Oh please please PLEASE Mr. Brand-new-level-90 Shadowpriest, do not use Cascade in your dps rotation in a heroic dungeon or on the Timeless Isle, you will pull EVERYthing!

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Feuert einen heiligen Blitz ab, der mit zunehmender Distanz stärker wird und einen Verbündeten um bis zu (10.8% of Spell power) Gesundheit heilt, bevor er 4-mal auf weitere Verbündete überspringt. Mit jedem Sprung teilt sich der Blitz in 2 Blitze auf.

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