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Kommentar von Sipder2

To access this Cache Puzzle you have to unlock Verständnis des Enigmundischen from Chiffrenkonsole.
You will spend 1x Pocopocenergie from Pocopoc beschwören.
After active the cache you have to solve a puzzle.
Rewards: Chiffren der Ersten.
If you're having trouble to reach any treasure you can use Schattentor or Dimensionstranslator.

All Similar Caches (spawn in random locations):

Rules:

As with other cyphers, you must deactivate all runes on the grid to access the information contained in the cypher.
Runes can only be cleared by matching them into a phrase of three runes that are syntactically aligned.
Such a phrase contains three runes that are either identical or different in each of their four properties:
Core shape, number of core shapes, border shape, and number of border shapes.
There are nine runes here, clear the grid by making three valid phrases of three runes.

Tip: pay attention on the borders.

The Great Veldt:
/way 36,5, 56,4 F
Video location: https://youtu.be/a8vnYrqa15s

Zereth Mortis:
/way 39,2, 46,7 F
Video location: https://youtu.be/BELNg2eTv4Q

/way 57,5, 65,8 F
Video location: https://youtu.be/lisy3nPamj8

/way 42,2, 68,8 F
Video location: https://youtu.be/iiOfYr6v50Y

/way 47,1, 77,2 F
Video location: https://youtu.be/r1s2celHmc8

Fissured Breach:
/way 47,6, 39,1 F
Video location: https://youtu.be/VPCl0r3rGvQ

Arrangement Index:
/way 63,1, 37,4 F
Video location: https://youtu.be/eLjlPQc2Sw4

Provis Fauna:
/way 46,0, 64,6 F
Video location: https://youtu.be/WhVebYihBys

The Dread Portal:
/way 59,7, 22,9 F
Video location: https://youtu.be/drO0zVNTuBo

Zovaal's Grasp:
/way 44,3, 30,9 F
Video location: https://youtu.be/6xKAP4vgc_E

Fugueal Cache coordinates:
/way 36,5, 56,4 F
/way 39,2, 46,7 F
/way 42,2, 68,8 F
/way 57,5, 65,8 F
/way 47,6, 39,1 F
/way 47,1, 77,2 F
/way 63,1, 37,4 F
/way 46,0, 64,6 F
/way 59,7, 22,9 F
/way 44,3, 30,9 F

Fugueal Cache All Locations: https://youtu.be/1OPjNdr5V1o

Kommentar von iIIumnati

As I tried to figure this out, I came to this conclusion:
Think of your 3 clicks as either:
SAME + SAME + SAME or DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT

SAME border shapes can be:
circle + circle + circle
square + square + square
hexagon + hexagon + hexagon

SAME core shapes can be:
cube + cube + cube
diamond + diamond + diamond
round + round + round

SAME core numbers can be:
one number + one number + one number
two numbers + two numbers + two numbers
three numbers + three numbers + three numbers
For example: one cube + one round + one diamond
For example: two cubes + two rounds + two diamonds

SAME border numbers can be:
one border + one border + one border
two borders + two borders + two borders
three borders + three borders + three borders
For example: A circle with one border + a square with one border + a hexagon with one border

DIFFERENT border shapes can be:
circle + square + hexagon

DIFFERENT core shapes can be:
cube + diamond + round

DIFFERENT core numbers can be:
one number + two numbers + three numbers
For example: one round + two diamonds + three cubes
For example: one cube + two cubes + three cubes

DIFFERENT border numbers can be:
one border + two borders + three borders
For example: a square with one border + a circle with two borders + a hexagon with three borders
For example: a square with one border + a square with two borders + a square with three borders

All 4 criteria (border shape, core shape, border numbers, core numbers) have to all be either
SAME + SAME + SAME or DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT

Example:

A square with one border and two cubes in the core.
A circle with one border and two diamonds in the core.
A hexagon with one border and two rounds in the core.

Border shapes are DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT (square, circle, hex)
Border numbers are SAME + SAME + SAME (one border, one border, one border)
Core shapes are DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT (cubes, diamonds, rounds)
Core numbers are SAME + SAME + SAME (two cores, two cores, two cores)

Hope this helps.

Update:

After reading some more comments in this post and solving some more of these puzzles I want to add some more info to provide you with additional help.

Observations:
1] These puzzles get easier to solve the more you do them.
2] I have not yet come accross an "unsolvable puzzle".
3] Do you see the patterns ... the fractals? (my favorite Firim quote).

Observation 1 needs no explanation. Like most things, the more you do it the better you get.

Observation 2 requires a bit of explaining. The themes of the comments are the following:
"Are you sure each puzzle actually has a solution?"
"I clicked on 3 pieces and they dissapeared, but there is no way to remove the other 6 pieces"
"I clicked on 6 pieces and they dissapeared, but there is no way to remove the final 3 pieces"

My answer is two fold.
A] It is my guess that every puzzle is generated by a computer program which means two things.
1] Every puzzle has a solution unless the program has a flaw ... which I doubt.
2] There is only a finite number of puzzles, but due to probability and statistics that's a huge number.

B] A puzzle might seem like it is unsolvable only because you clicked on 3 pieces that have a "valid" criteria.
Those 3 pieces dissapear and you are left with 6 pieces. Of the remaining 6 pieces, there is no valid criteria
to remove any more pieces. That means you chose the "wrong" 3 pieces. It means that one or more of those 3
pieces belongs to a different set of criteria. To phrase it in another way "You have chosen 3 pieces that are valid,
however those 3 pieces do not lend itself to the overall puzzle solution".

Here you will click "restart the puzzle" and this time do not choose those same 3. They won't work for the overall.

Observation 3 Do you see the patterns ... the fractals?
Here is the fun part, but this is too long, so don't read it.

I'm looking at a puzzle and I'm only looking at the border shapes.
I see 3 circles, 3 squares, and 3 hexes. This is telling me something. What is it telling me?
It's telling me that I can choose:
SAME + SAME + SAME circle circle circle
SAME + SAME + SAME square square square
SAME + SAME + SAME hex hex hex
or I can choose:
DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT circle square hex
DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT circle square hex
DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT circle square hex

I'm looking at a puzzle and I'm only looking at the border shapes.
I see 2 circles, 2 squares, and 5 hexes. This is telling me something. What is it telling me?
It's telling me that there is no way to have SAME + SAME + SAME with the circles because there are only 2 of them.
It's telling me that there is no way to have SAME + SAME + SAME with the squares because there are only 2 of them.
It tells me that I will need 1 DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT circle square hex
It tells me that I will need 2 DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT + DIFFERENT circle square hex
It tells me that I will need 3 SAME + SAME + SAME hex hex hex

Do you see the patterns ... the fractals?
vo_92_firim_4285647
There is always more to learn.

I will not go any deeper than this. I think you understand how to better solve these puzzles.

Final Note: I have solved many puzzles in my life and have never seen this one before. The creator of this
puzzle deserves much respect. Thank you Blizzard developer for this wonderful puzzle.

Kommentar von MozzFreddy

Thanks to blizzard to rely on wowhead community. Because obvisouly they don't explain ANYTHING in game for these chests

Kommentar von Doloria

RULES for Fugueal Protolock puzzles
1. The 3 runes you pick can be anywhere in the grid, they don't have to line up or be adjacent.
2. For each property (shape of rune, number of outlines, shapes in the core/center of rune, number of units in the core) you are looking for:

three of a kind OR
three different appearances

CHECKLIST

Consider each rune property separately.
Shape of rune

Three of a kind: all circles, all squares or all hexagons.
OR all shapes differ: one circle, one square, one hexagon.

Number of outlines

Three of a kind: all runes have 3 outlines OR all runes have 2 outlines OR all runes have 1 outline.
OR the number of outlines differ: one rune has 1 outline, another rune has 2 outlines and the last rune has 3 outlines.

Shapes in the core/center of rune

Three of a kind: all circles, all squares or all chevrons.
OR the shapes in the core/center differ: one rune contains circles, another rune has squares and the last rune has chevrons.

Number of units in the core

Three of a kind: all runes have 3 units in the core OR all runes have 2 units in the core OR all runes have 1 unit in the core.
Or the number of units in the core/center differ: one rune has 1 unit in the core, another rune has 2 units in the core and the last rune has 3 units in the core.

TROUBLESHOOTING

If your group of three runes meets these rules, the three runes should disappear when you click on them. If not, highlight the runes again, as a test. If the group still doesn't clear, start with a different group. It’s likely one (or two) of the runes are needed to form the other groups.

IMO when a group that meets the rules doesn't disappear, there should be a message like, "This group is correct, but the remaining runes can't be combined into groups that fit the rules. Do you want to create different groups or get a new puzzle?"

Kommentar von Sarthorius

There's actually a 'helper addon', that works on all 3 kinds of puzzles (Cantaric, Mezzonic and Fugueal): Zereth Mortis Puzzle Helper available on curse.

Don't thank ME, thank httpsx by supporting him and his addon if possible :D

Cantaric one is the easiest, IMO, since you have to finish it with 7 clicks on either left or bottom runes. My strat is to count on both sides which of the 'empty/filled' runes I'll have to click and go for it.
Mezzonic can be one of the slowest to complete, but definitely the Fugueal one seems to be currently the 'hardest' (on these cache's pages other people might tell better strat for it). The addon at least might serve as a learning tool, then you might see fit to use it or not, in the future.

Edit: There are at least 2 more kind of puzzles, reminiscent of those of nazjatar, the line untying and the Bejeweled, that I found easy to complete manually anyway.

Kommentar von Fangforever

Find an unsolvable one, solved 3 of the 9 icons, then tried all combinations with the last 6 icons, none worked. This is not only $%^&*!ed and illogical, it also doesn't even work.

Kommentar von parasanti

I've found that some puzzles have multiple solutions that can trigger but leave you with an "unsolvable" puzzle at the end. If you find a situation where you swear you've tried every possible solution, you may need to restart and try a different approach.

Kommentar von Gempalm

this fuguel cache is clearly broken. It's basic admissions cognitive questions, but any correct answer I select doesn't work. The first time I did this only the first combination worked. Can we just take this and "puzzling it out" WQ out of the game until they're fixed? There is truly nothing more frustrating than an impossible puzzle. This isn't why I pay a subscription fee...

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