Fire Mage Hero Talent Showdown in The War Within - Frostfire vs. Sunfury

The War Within Geposted 17.08.2024 um 15:34 von Preheat

Not sure what Hero Talents to play for your spec in The War Within? Check out all the released articles in the 'Hero Talent Showdown' series:
Hero Talent Showdowns in The War Within
Blood DK
Frost DK
Unholy DK
Havoc DH
Vengeance DH
Balance Druid

Feral Druid
Guardian Druid
Restoration Druid
Augmentation Evoker
Devastation Evoker
Preservation Evoker
Beast Mastery Hunter
Marksmanship Hunter
Survival Hunter
Arcane Mage
Fire Mage
Frost Mage
Brewmaster Monk
Mistweaver Monk
Windwalker Monk
Holy Paladin
Protection Paladin
Retribution Paladin
Discipline Priest
Holy Priest
Shadow Priest
Assassination Rogue
Outlaw Rogue
Subtlety Rogue
Elemental Shaman
Enhancement Shaman
Restoration Shaman
Affliction Warlock
Demonology Warlock
Destruction Warlock
Arms Warrior
Fury Warrior
Protection Warrior

For more information on Hero Talents coming in the War Within, check out our Hero Talents Overview.

The War Within Hero Talents Overview

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Strengths

Weaknesses

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Strengths

Weaknesses

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Class Fantasy & Visuals: Sunfury & Frostfire (Tie)
Both Hero talent specs are immediately recognizable and come with a flavor and fantasy that is distinct to them. The winner here will depend on your personal preference.

Sunfury

Sunfury visuals for Arkaner Phönix and Glorreiches Glühen.

Frostfire

Frostfire visuals for Meteor and Frostfeuerblitz.

Fun & Rewarding Gameplay: Sunfury (Winner)
This is a close one. Frostfire has a bit more depth to it, since it requires tracking more buffs and making more decisions. Before the nerfs to Lebende Bombe I had Frostfire as the winner here, but effort put into gameplay has to result in damage for it to be rewarding.

Sunfury has the best gameplay, mainly because it shakes things up and allows us to play Entfesseltes Inferno and rewards us more for proper play.

Difficulty: Sunfury (Winner)
Fire is easier to play across the board, but Sunfury is easier. Frostfire is not especially difficult, but it is a bit more complicated.

Defensiveness & Utility: Frostfire (Winner)
Frostfire brings better utility with stronger barriers for you and your group via Durchdrungener Schutz.

Sunfury has some utility with Lektionen in Entkräftung, especially in PvP, but is less useful overall. Lediglich ein Rückschlag provides some additional defensive benefit but it falls short of Durchdrungener Schutz.

Leveling: Sunfury (Winner)
I don't recommend Fire for leveling, but Sunfury is better suited for quickly mowing packs down with Flammenstoß. Hyperthermie feels great to play.

Mythic+: Sunfury (Winner)
Before I answer this, let me give you some context: Fire tuning is bad. At the time I am writing this, Sunfury Fire Mage is 25-35% behind its peers in Single Target and AoE. With that being said, Sunfury is about 10% ahead in Single Target and around 5% behind Frostfire in AoE.

Tuning is fleeting, but Sunfury is the winner because it has more damage and higher burst than Frostfire.

Raid: Sunfury (Winner)
Sunfury has better damage tuning than Frostfire. Otherwise, both are very similar.

Best Overall: Sunfury (Winner)
Sunfury wins overall mainly due to having slightly better tuning, but Frostfire is also great. Frostfire could easily surpass Sunfury, if Lebende Bombe is buffed.

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Temporale Krümmung has been removed and replaced with Inspirierte Intelligenz.

Meisterschaft: Entzünden now has a chance to provide cooldown reduction on Feuerschlag built into it.

Öl ins Feuer is now baseline. Flammenstoß has a chance equal to your Crit to contribute towards Kampfeshitze!

Versengen now automatically crits in execute, and provides movement speed. It also has new talents that modify it.

Lebende Bombe has been designed via the Gezündete Lunte buff, and has many talent interactions.

Segen des Sonnenkönigs and Entfesseltes Inferno are now closer in terms of tuning.

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Blood DKFrost DKUnholy DK

Havoc DHVengeance DH

Balance DruidFeral DruidGuardian DruidRestoration Druid

Aug EvokerDevastation EvokerPreservation Evoker

BM HunterMM HunterSurvival Hunter

Arcane MageFire MageFrost Mage

Brewmaster MonkMistweaver MonkWindwalker Monk

Holy PaladinProtection PaladinRetribution Paladin

Discipline PriestHoly PriestShadow Priest

Assassination RogueOutlaw RogueSubtlety Rogue

Elemental ShamanEnhance ShamanRestoration Shaman

Affliction WarlockDemo WarlockDestro Warlock

Arms WarriorFury WarriorProtection Warrior

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