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评论来自
Piril
In before Captain Planet's Jokes.
评论来自
chase123
Fool, its obvious the next watcher after this one will be Ma-Tivalon, the Heart Watcher.
and then.........the real threat to Azeroth will show himself.
评论来自
kikovsk
How's VoA's map with this new boss? Up to Koralon, there were only 3 chambers... Is it redesigned so that there are 4 symmetrical chambers? Or do we have an attached one to the previous 3?
评论来自
Interest
Boss strategy:
Firstly, the boss will occasionally apply a stacking DoT (and snare) on the tank (think Gormok, except it's a frost DoT), which requires tank switches to allow the debuff to fall off.
Secondly, the boss makes tiny rings that will spawn adds that deals aoe frost damage to nearby players.
For every wave of adds spawned, the boss will then use Whiteout, which makes players take 25% increased Frost damage. This is a stacking debuff and serves as a soft enrage timer, like Koralon's stacking damage buff.
I think I got about everything. Looks like a pretty easy boss that requires target switching...(the add's health pools overall have only a tiny bit more health than a single Emalon add.)
评论来自
260381
What sucks is the new hall for Toravon makes the Vault a lot larger, making Earth, Wind, and Fire all that much trickier.
评论来自
Icecoldcoke
Toravon is now ready to be defeated!
Loot (
source
)
10man - Previous arena season gear (
Relentless Gladiator
) & 10man version of
new tier 10 loot
(legs & gloves)
25man - Current arena season gear (
Wrathful Gladiator
) & 25man version of
new tier 10 loot
(legs & gloves)
He will also drop honor boots and belt.
Both 10 & 25man modes will likely drop 2 emblems of frost.
评论来自
444966
The world will be broken...
A new age will begin...
The Alliance and Horde may only CLING to hope!
Deathwing will return.
...Oh wait am I wrong here? :)
评论来自
Herecius
If you read Archavon's Log outside of the entrance to VoA, it actually explains why they're all in there. They're all 'watchers' evidently watching and guarding over the elements in Wintergrasp (note how WG is full of elemental mobs - curious that we don't get a Shadow Watcher boss). Archavon was the first to wake up, and notes in his log that his 'brothers,' being the other bosses released one patch at a time, are waking up as well.
He is apparently happy not to be lonely anymore. But very sad that people want to steal the shiny things that him and his friends have.
评论来自
36674
The next "boss" should be twins representing Life and Shadow.
They will be kids that wont drop tier but rather the new Epic Greens in Cataclysm.
评论来自
Rattja
There are room for another wing at the oposite side, they could put a shadow one there. Just a guess though.
评论来自
377604
"...but together we make a more powerfull fifth element......Boron"
评论来自
Magmy
Bornakk made a blue post stating what Toravon drops. He will drop T10 and S8 Gloves/Pants. In terms of non-set PvP loot, Bornakk said he would only be dropping Belt and Boots. So he will have a slightly smaller loot table than Koralon because he will not be able to drop Bracers/Necks/Cloaks/Rings.
Source:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22418707801&pageNo=1&sid=1#11
评论来自
Wenduri
After Ma-Tivlon the Heart Watcher will SURELY be Captilon the Planet Watcher.
评论来自
Quilan
real threat to Azeroth? The Lich King? Deathwing? Sargeras?
but for now, this'll do : /
评论来自
43040
lol... look at the 3-d model and then look at the under parts of his feet.... He's walked over many ally and horde!
评论来自
405835
I think they shuld add a shadow boss on the other side and once all, I MEAN ALL, of the bosses are defeated one of the holes will open and you can dive down to a Life element boss and that one should drop: proc rings/trinkets/recipes/mounts etc. special @#$% ya know?
(Dont mark this down cause ur to lazy to want to kill 3 extra 2min bosses to get to the good one)
Not to bad of an idea, no?
评论来自
211524
The adds will most likely function similarly to the adds that spawn in the Asembly of Iron fight from Ulduar, when leaving Runemaster Molgeim up last. Meaning that ranged DPS will have to kill them before they are allowed to get close to anyone as their combined AOE could easily cause a wipe if they are allowed near the raid.
评论来自
145044
There's also
life elementals
, so perhaps we'll see a life boss as well?
评论来自
Janiy
It should be noted that the Adds have no threat table and can't be tanked. DPS should all switch to the adds as they are spawned to kill them asap so the debuff doesn't wipe the raid.
评论来自
340526
If you look on the map the instance is not simetric anymore...will blizz implement a new raid/season so one more watcher will be added?
评论来自
344795
If you read the journal outside of VoA you will see that Archy was alone at first then he discovered that emmy was just "sleeping" and he shared some of his treasure with him. then he procedes to gripe about how nobody wants to kill him anymore you jerkbags who leave after killing Coraline you know who you are you make Archy sad giant. ANYWAY they wake up and open their rooms up and archy gives them better loot/ How Tory found a way to alter the fabric of space and change around the layout of a freaking VAULT i have no idea but up until Tory everything made sense
and yes i know i got the names weird thats just how i think of them
评论来自
195360
His ability Frozen Orb spawns an orb of ice that fires frostbolt-like rays all around it.
The name, look, and effect is an exact copy of the Diablo II sorceress spell, Frozen Orb
(not surprising, as both games are by Blizzard)
评论来自
94144
So I tried the raid today, and it went... rough. We wiped twice and then tank had to run off for an emergency work call. While I see the need to down the adds, I don't see how this will be done effectively when the adds move as fast as they do, (They were right on top of ranged before we could even blink) Que?
评论来自
262364
Really easy fight. PUG'ed it and cleared on first try. Tanks swap at 5 stacks. Ranged take down the adds while melee stay on boss. Melee will take alot of damage if they try to assist on adds. Other than that, straight tank and spank.
评论来自
reyan
Confirmed today that paladins can bubble off the stacks of whiteout (well at least in the 10 man version)
edit: im not sure if iceblocking or similar spells can remove the debuff. let me know!
评论来自
Brasso
Tanks can take several stacks before it gets out of hand, so do not be too worried if a tank's taunt is on CD (it shouldn't). I took up to 8 stacks without trouble.
(Downrated again by idiots.)
评论来自
Volital
Just a little fyi you can disarm him as well it helps alot
评论来自
455389
Rogues - I noticed that we can Cloak of Shadows off the debuff. Just a friendly heads up :)
评论来自
ShadeolTheFox
Just attempted this boss on 10-man VoA. Here's what he does (from what I've seen).
Frozen Orb
A circle will be placed upon the ground. About 5-7 seconds after it's placed, an add named "Frozen Orb" will come out. It does about 3000-3500 Magical AoE damage per second and will go around the room until it dies.
Tips
Death Knights
can
Anti-Magic Shell
the Frozen Orb damage for Runic Power.
Warriors
can, obviously,
Berserker Rage
for extra rage gain.
Rogues
can
Cloak of Shadows
. I suggest only using it if you have severly low HP.
Frostbite
A debuff that the boss will occasionally give the tank. It is a DoT that ensnares the tanks. The two tanks should taunt off each other at 5 or so stacks to allow the other tank to get rid of his debuff. Think of it like
Gluth's fight
.
Freezing Ground
A random piece of the ground will get covered in ice and immobilize the people inside for 5 seconds. You'll want to try and dodge these or the Frozen Orb will most likely kill you.
Whiteout
A debuff that the boss will cast upon the death of a (group of) Frozen Orb(s). It will do a set amount of damage and apply a stack of Whiteout, which increases frost damage taken by 15%*. The stacks will stay until the end of the fight.
It is said that
Paladins
,
Magi
, and
Rogues*
can get rid of this.
This boss is a DPS race. On 10-man, I'd suggest at least everyone be 3-3.5k dps assuming you have:
2 Tanks
2-3 Healers
3-4 Ranged
2-3 Melee
Strategy
:
Melee
As a melee, all you really have to do is focus on the boss. Toravon is a DPS race and pretty much requires you to be on the boss at all times.
Ranged
Ranged will also be DPS'ing the boss, but their main priority over
everything
are the orbs. If you don't take these out fast enough, they make the healers' job even worse and can even wipe the raid.
Healers
Essentially, keep everyone alive and dodge the orbs. The tanks will be taking the most damage out of everyone due to the stacking DoT and Frostbite debuff.
Tanks
It really helps to have an addon that will show the Target of Target's debuff stack (such as X-Perl UnitFrames). When the stacks reach
4 or 5
(this can be decided amongst yourselves, depending on the tanks' health), the other tank will taunt off and allow the first tank enough time to get rid of his DoT.
Death Knight Tanking Tips
:
There are 2 different situtations where Anti-Magic Shell comes in handy.
Use it when the other tanks taunts off so you can absorb the damage while waiting out the stacks.
Use it before the boss casts Whiteout (generally when you have ~3 stacks of it already) and absorb the huge AoE damage.
Raid Composition
Toravon should be in the middle of the room.
The tanks should be facing Toravon towards the back.
The melee should be right on Toravon's back.
The ranged/healers should be spread out in a semi-circle behind Toravon.
(* = Fixed Mistakes)
评论来自
GhostFlight
Frostbite
is what gets placed on the tanks
评论来自
24996
I smell a buffing incoming, seems to be too easy to be the 4th of 4 graduated difficulty bosses.
评论来自
516541
HEART!
Imagine all the players to fall in love with each other. Massive AOE.
评论来自
41671
Tank
advice:
We swapped to the other tank after
3 stacks
of the
Frostbite
debuff, that seemed to give it enough time to fall off before re-swapping.
DPS
advice:
If you notice that you have aggro, it means a
Frozen Orb
is after you. It helps to kite it away from other group members to minimize raid damage.
Healer
advice:
Healing intensifies as the fight goes on due to the 15% additional frost damage stacked on everyone every time Toravon casts
Whiteout
. Be ready with AoE heals when Whiteout is cast, and get ready to spam heals if the stack gets to 6+ (90%+ increased frost damage).
评论来自
d3xx
I'm trying to do a targeting macro for the adds:
/tar frozen orb
Problem is it targets the add corpses as well. What could i use to just target live frozen orbs?
评论来自
nolervik
This is another super easy way to get to your t10 parts.
Tacts:
Tanks do a taunt rotation. Every now and then, Toravon will release blue flying orbs, ranged kills them asap. Melee just zerg boss.
评论来自
296433
For people wondering about the tactics:
Randomly throughout the fight, Toravon spawns "Frozen Orbs"... I believe they have 160k HP on the 10-man encounter. The put out around 3k aoe damage, so they are to be kited and nuked by the ranged dps and avoided by the melees.
They are not to be tanked
.
Sadly I didn't time this, but Toravon seems to cast "
Whiteout
" sometimes, which deals 10k aoe dps and also gives a debuff increasing frost damage taken by 25%, but this will scale with the debuff given to tanks*, so healers need to be quick on their feet to pull up the raid.
*
Tank debuff
- Increases frost damage taken by 25%(?). Stacks. Tanks should switch at 3 stacks. I don't believe they can taunt while the debuff is up, so the other tank should taunt when his debuff has faded.
Toravon can also be disarmed in both 10 and 25 player modes, though the debuff is still applied.
Just sharing the info I have :) Please correct me if anything is wrong.
Apologies for not having accurate times or data.
Edit:
If this wasn't obvious already, he does drop T10 legs/hands and Wrathful (S8) legs/hands.
He also drops 2x Frost Emblem, rather than triumph.
评论来自
pezz
Last night my guild gave this guy a few attempts after ToC 25, and while the orbs seem to do the most overall damage, the burst nature of Whiteout tends to mean most raid deaths happen directly because of it or a few seconds after.
DBM wasn't sure yet but I eyeballed the time between Whiteouts at around 40 seconds. I think there's some variance (it's on a 10 second CD but he definitely doesn't cast it that fast) based on what you do with the adds, but for argument's sake let's say 40 seconds.
Your ret paladins and holy paladins should have Aura Mastery, and your Holy paladins should hopefully have Divine Guardian. With three such paladins you can alternate Aura Masteries the whole fight through and cut Whiteout's damage by about ~40%. With two Aura Masteries and Divine Guardian you can try this sort of rotation:
AM -> AM -> DiGuard -> AM -> AM -> wipe. But, the first two Whiteouts are a breeze to heal through so you could start at the third one. Seven stacks of the soft enrage will probably lead to a wipe whether you have an extra CD handy or not.
This won't work in ten man, and if you got enough paladins who knew how to spec and who knew how to coordinate in a pug I'd be pretty amazed, but if your guild's having trouble rotation CDs on just two or three paladins can make a huge difference.
评论来自
dumac
10 man boss
The Boss Has only one orb spawn, the area it spawns turns into a blow glow so you can easily see it.
Tank the boss in middle of the room. Your ranged dpser need to switch to the orb and nuke it down. Your two tank should taunt switch after you get 4 stacks of frost on you, three if the tank is undergeared. Bring 2-3 range for the orbs sake and you should do it. It is a pretty easy and straightforward fight so just rinse and repeat.
The Boss also got a soft enrage timer as a dedot who stacks who increase frost damage.
25 man boss
The attacks are the same but now instead of three orbs he spawns 3 at the same time. The orbs will spawn close to boss. You should get at least 50%+ ranged dpser due ranged dpser will be more valuable for this fight than a melee is.
Instead of tanking it in middle you should tank it near the wall of either right or left and kite the boss then orbs spawns along the wall, this is to make sure melee get a more breathing room then orbs spawns and so they can still dps the boss.
Switch always at 3 now between your tanks. 2 tanks will work but three tanks will make the switching alot easier due 3 frost can mean that the debuff not vanished from the previous tank if two in time.
Try to bring a shaman and pop heroism then your frost stack is around 3 to 4 stacks on whole raid. If you get 5 stacks your raid will most likely die.
The 25 man version is alot harder so be prepared to wipe, you also need at least 3k+ dpsers in raid. High dps fight.
(This is what i could tell then i did him on the release day)
评论来自
aneossino
Hmm, guys I don't know about the "Waves of adds" that you say.
I just saw 1 add spawning each time.
When we did it, 1 add spawned on the circle, and it was a big frostbolt-looking thing, that targeted someone and chased him.
Had 3 total adds, but only 2 whiteouts. (Boss died just before the 3rd add did)
Did AoE damage to everyone around it (around 3-4k I'd say) with ~160k HP on the 10man version.
But the raid should avoid it, as with Whiteout it could get up to 6k.
I have to say that overall, it's not really a hard fight. At least not worth the loot it drops.
It's healing intense if you 2man heal it, we had a total of 9k healing.
Tank damage was rough, if you consider that I, as a Holy Paladin did 6k, and the Resto shaman who was raid-healing did 3k.
Though Whiteout really hurt. Dropped the whole raid at 50% of their HP, on the 1st stack. So I believe that if you get a 4th Whiteout, the whole raid will die instantly.
DPS requirement isn't too high. An average of 4.5k DPS should be enough to kill it with 3 Whiteouts.
Drops T10 (iLvl251), and PvP Neck/Belt (iLvl251), just like all the other bosses.
评论来自
322464
Downed him on 25 man last night with a PuG. Took us a couple of attempts, then got him down after replacing some poor dps. (I didn't have recount running, but there were players claiming that some where doing 1k dps ect.)
Raid positioning isn't a huge issue for this boss. We had the hunters and mages kiting frost orbs down the hall safely away from the raid and running back for heals. I can't say for sure that this made it any easier, but as long as ranged switch to the orbs, and no one sits on them, it's pretty easy.
评论来自
redandgray
25-man is a lot harder than 10-man.
Frost Resist gear and a Paladin Frost Aura make a noticeable difference, especially for the tanks and healers.
P.S. If you get smacked by an orb right before the boss casts Whiteout, you're gonna be hurting.
评论来自
Vatigu
Lmao as someone mentioned earlier he's not immune to disarm. My 10 man group that had several severely undergeared dps downed him with ease second attempt because we had a rogue an arms warr (one of the terribad dps) and myself a prot warr, my alternate spec also had the improved disarm talent. We had him disarmed for more than 50% of the fight, and when my disarm was up improved raid DPS by 10%. So it's official this boss can be cheesed.
评论来自
Maliander
Can anyone give extra information on the
Frozen Orbs
?
Do they follow normal threat rules?
Can they be taunted?
Can they be slowed?
Can they be stunned?
Can they be rooted?
Are they immune/resistant to frost damage?
Some combat log diving shows them to definitely be immune to slows, dazes and stuns. Most likely to roots as well, will need to check better to be sure. They are not resistant or immune to frost damage (remarkably little frost damage going around btw).
Feedback from various sources is 50/50 divided between random aggro and normal threat rules so uncertain on that. Not a single source claims they are tauntable, so probably taunt immune.
Need to look better at spawn intervals, but the one I clocked was 33 seconds for 25 man.
评论来自
254941
For god's sake...
Add drops for Toravon - what's the purpose of using client when there is no list of items we uploading...
And as for the Frozen Orbs as long as I know (did 10 yesterday and wiped 3 times on 25 they DON'T choose random person - I agrroed them...
评论来自
kuwarudo
Captilon the Planet Watcher will appear after you down the Ma-Tivalon the Heart Watcher, right?
Edit: Ma-Tivalon will probably use all kinds of Mind Control on the raid group :<
评论来自
524224
what is hes loot
评论来自
223475
It is the
ONLY
boss inside raid Voa25 that
drops (3) three epics
ilvl264, all the previous dropped (4)four epics, now why i believe that maybe was done on purpose...
评论来自
Peter0604
Weird........This guy actually got a weapon.
评论来自
395672
I have participated in five VoAs now, and only succeeded once on 10-man. I have healed twice, (once on 10, once on 25) and tanked three times, (twice on 10, once on 25) and I am fairly certain that the Frozen Orbs follow some sort of bizzare aggro table. Well, maybe not an aggro table.
I can taunt the Orb. It will respond and come after me for a bit. But as soon as my Growl wears off, it will, despite having a Feral Faerie Fire, Mangle and Maul laid down on it, will move off to make some clothie's life miserable. I seriously doubt that each and every time I've tanked it, that there is ANYONE that is putting out enough damage to pull aggro off me after I've used my taunt and three highest-threat moves. I don't think they can be slowed, either, Infected Wounds was not showing up on them.
I vaguely suspect that the Frozen Orbs have a target switching mechanism built into it, something like the Ghouls summoned by the Black Knight, back in ToC. (Remember that? Those Ghouls have a "and pick a new target" built into their attacks.) Except in this case, instead of leveling an attack at someone, it just turns on auto-follow and continues to blast its AoE damage aura.
The orbs do not explode. They do not have any kind of death explosion, which is a blessing. But they put out a large amount of steady raid damage that needs to be topped off ASAP, which only gets worse as Toravon stacks the Whiteout on the raid. Rejuv blanketing is a godsend here.
This is definitely a three-healer job on 10-man. Do NOT skimp on the healing just because it is a DPS race. Maybe down the line, once people have three and four pieces of ICC-level gear, but not yet. My group was able to succeed with 2 Trees and a PVP-specced Holy/Disc priest. I highly suspect that a dedicated Disc priest raid-healing would have smoothed things out a lot more. We wound up with 8/10 taking a dirt nap, but were successful in the end.
So, to recap:
Toravon does not appear to cleave. Tank him wherever you like, but for orb visibility purposes, tank him off to the side.
(edit)
Avoidance tanks, if there remains such a thing in this ICC environment, are probably at a premium here, given that Toravon does not have a 100% chance to apply the tank debuff on each hit. More dodges/parries gives an already not-certain debuff less chances to hit, so the tank(s) take(s) less damage when Whiteout rolls around.
When you see the glowy blue patches on the ground, EVERYONE runs away.
(edit: Not sure about the everyone, anymore. Tank can probably soak the extra one orb, two, if they're not yet getting up there in stacks of the debuff, but if the orb spawns in melee range on Toravon, all melee might as well switch and kill it that much faster. Melee charging off to kill distant orbs is a definate DPS loss, though.)
I'm not yet certain if it should be to stack up in a clear part of the room or to spread out yet, but I am leaning towards stacking to make it easier to raidheal through the damage.
All
(edit: ranged)
DPS needs to stop hitting the boss and kill the orbs.
(edit: Not sure about melee DPS, probably kill any that are close to the tank.)
After the orbs go down, All DPS shift back to Toravon.
There should be a bit of time between the orbs dying and the Whiteout cast. Healers should be buffering heals 5-10 seconds before Whiteout, depending on raid size. That means dropping Regrowth, Rejuvenate, Renew, Riptide, raidheal-style PW:S pre-emptively.
Whiteout hits hard, and will only hit harder as time goes on. Stacked HoTs helps bring the raid back up to full faster, so you can be ready for the next Frozen Orbs to spawn.
(edit: Things to verify: Rootability of the orbs. I don't think the root effect on Bear Feral Charge was stopping them, but I need to check and make sure. Things are a bit fuzzy. Also need to test Death Gripping the orbs. AMZ would be good for this encounter, Unholy DKs are known to spec AMZ for PVP, so it should be readily available. If things work as planned, three DKs death-gripping an orb apiece, and pulling them into an AMZ would mean tasty, tasty Death Coil spam. Except for that whole Unholy Blight thing that Unholy DKs tend to spec into. Need to test AMZ rotation, compare with dropping AMZ raidwide in order to buy healers time when four or five stacks of Whiteout are up.)
TL;DR: Raid damage-heavy healer-check tank-swapping DPS race requiring target-switching with a soft enrage.
edit: clarifying some ideas, adding some others. Me sleep-dep tank am good brainer!
评论来自
Coincidence
For all you recount junkies, keep in mind that killing the orbs reduces dps substantially. I just watched as, after a wipe, the raid leader proceeded to remove half a dozen of the lowest dps according to recount. They happened to all be ranged dps who were doing exactly what they were supposed to be doing, killing orbs. That left us with only the ranged dps who were doing what they were not supposed to be doing, dpsing the boss. Needless to say the raid failed.
评论来自
156237
Easy Tacs
Ranged on Orbs
Melee On Boss
Healers Heal
Tank switch at 2 or 3 stacks
评论来自
Tyrsis
God im one lucky bastard... it came out wensday(today is friday) i just did the 25 man one and got t10.5 gloves and legs :O
评论来自
sTyLnK
To many times everyone says range is not killing the orbs, but everything is going smoothly until the orbs spawn literally right on top of the boss or close to the melee. No one moves so we can't do much. Other people specifically melee have to move or they will die in seconds. I'm sure many of you have encountered this already.
评论来自
528638
The Whiteout will one shot the clothies eventually. After a couple wipes, we went with 2 elite healers, 2 tanks, 2 melee and 4 ranged and downed him in 4 min without losing anyone. The key was to have all dps 100% ensure they get away from the spawning orbs ASAP to avoid unnecessary raid damage.
And he dropped the Lock and DK pieces, and we didn't have either class!
评论来自
Hollowed
Also, it should be noted to Death Knight tanks that his "Whiteout" can be stopped if you use
Anti-Magic Shell
as he is casting it.
Although you can use the shield to take less damage from orbs, it is a much larger help to heals if you use AMS right as "Whiteout" is cast, as a tank at least, due to the fact the debuff increases damage taken from all frost damage, including the DoT you get.
EDIT: Seeing as I'm getting downranked for no stated cause, no one else suggested using AMS to counter Whiteout. It HAD been mentioned that you could use it on orbs, just not to avoid a raidwide debuff. If I have somehow missed something, please inform me. It had been mentioned that you could AMS the frozen orbs, but not, however, the debuff itself.
评论来自
Volital
I was also informed that paladin tanks can bubble the debuff off
评论来自
210565
The adds Spawned are these
Frozen Orb
, wonder how much damage they do?
评论来自
rzzr
A tip for Death Knights. Whilst you are melee and will be just on the boss, not the orbs, remember to use Pestilence to spread deseases to the Orbs. This will help out the ranged and you won't pull aggro. It will also send your DPS through the roof :-)
评论来自
monopoman
He just watches you take his gear!
This is a joke of a boss.
评论来自
Ketho
Toravon the Ice Watcher
-
Frozen Mallet
->
Frostbite
(
10
),
Whiteout
(
10
),
Freezing Ground
(
10
),
Frozen Orb
(
10
)
-
Frozen Orb
-
Frozen Orb
(
10
)
Frost Warder
-
Frozen Mallet
->
Frostbite
(
10
),
Frost Blast
(
10
)
评论来自
469611
wow, whos next Herathon the Heart Mender?
come to think of it, If you added that , the next step is Captillion the Planet Guardian :O!
"Captain Planet, hes our hero , gonna take pollution down to zero!"
- unknown
评论来自
rcuosukgi42
Just wanted to point out that since this is the last pvp season before cataclysm comes out, that there will almost assuredly not be a 5th VoA boss, so fortunately captain planet may stay safely tucked away in the lower elemental planes where he belongs.... unless wait Deathwing isn't powerful enough to destroy Azeroth by himself is he?
评论来自
551498
Keep the ranged DPS on Frozen orbs and this fight is realy easy
评论来自
552527
The percentage is so low, especially the pally stuff :(
评论来自
silverd
I don't know if this is a bug or not, but when I tanked Toravon, the other tank and I decided to simply taunt off once our own stacks of Frostbite wore off. For some reason though, he was immune to my taunt sometimes, once the DK took over, she didn't seem to have any problems taunting back. Last week our tank also reported something similar. Is this a bug or does he have some ability that prevents taunting?
评论来自
336987
Mage gear is a damn lie.
Unless you aren't a mage. Then it's a unified truth.
评论来自
knarel
when the orbs spawn all ranged DPS need to be on him or you get a wipe.
评论来自
111622
He drops T10
legs
and
gloves
.
Best to save your Frost emblems until after you down this boss, you don't wanna buy something you obtain from a /roll on this guy, that would be a waste of 90 or so emblems.
评论来自
551520
The drop rate of any death knight gear is extremely low. You actually have a better chance of getting a Grand Black War Mammoth then seeing Death Knight tier gear drop.
评论来自
466193
We have nothing but PVP gear drop off him for the last 3 weeks in both the 10man and 25man not sure if it is bad luck or if he is broken.
评论来自
466840
Quick question from druid tank point of view: is there a reason to stack frost resistance?
Im thinking about mixing polar set (287 FR):
北极长靴
,
北极外衣
,
北极束腰
with other items (average ilvl 240).
评论来自
394410
You can solo tank this as a paladin. Hit
Divine Shield
around 50% and it'll clear your stacks.
This might also be doable with other classes if a paladin is available to give them
Hand of Protection
.
Make sure to click off your bubble as soon as possible, as he'll chase after someone else.
Since this is zerg style, you'll need to have enough health and enough raid damage to handle taking the stacks and killing him before the stacks get too high. Of course, he's still a loot piñata so neither of those requirements are that tight.
评论来自
564344
no, but for fun, you can. I tanked it with 580 frost resistance on 25man, and I was able to solo tank it till 20 stacks, where the damage starts becoming very lethal. was hitting me for around 20k damage (healers should still be able to keep that up..)
10man is a joke.
评论来自
318094
If the battle is taking too long and whiteout stacks are getting too high, abilities that remove all debuffs on you (ice block, divine protection, etc.) can completely remove the whiteout stacks, allowing you to last for a few more rounds where other classes cannot.
Edit: I will never understand why correct information that hasn't been brought up before gets downrated on Wowhead. It's like some super secret group wants to hide the truth or something.
评论来自
258919
Simple and straightforward. Any geared group that can pull off proper DPS can do it.
With Whiteout and the debuff on the tanks, the healers will probably have the toughest time here just keeping the raid alive. Tanking is easy, just hold aggro (I don't think you need to face him away from the raid but it does help reduce clutter) and have the tanks swap aggro at 4 stacks of the debuff (tanks should make sure their stacks have worn off before taunting). DPSers just kill the adds when they spawn and burn the boss otherwise.
评论来自
326310
His
Whiteout
spell seems to have been nerfed in a hotfix from 25% down to 15%.
After a bit of seaching I found
this
blue post
In the Toravon encounter, the effect of the Whiteout debuff has been reduced. Additionally, the damage done by Frozen Orbs has been reduced
评论来自
608743
if i knew he drops t10 and arena season 8 gear i wouldnt waste my time in ICC and donating...
评论来自
559082
Algalon the observer won't be happy with Captivon the planet watcher!
评论来自
95299
A 2 tank setup will need to taunt Toravon as the debuff on the other tank reaches 4 stacks, which allows time for their own to clear.
评论来自
Faradize
if you got frost rez for sindragosa you can solo tank this, no matter what class are you
评论来自
Engelrift
Anyone else noticed that Toravon and Koralon both have significantly less wealth than the other boss's in VoA? Is this incentive for raids to do the older boss's for lower item level gear, or was there just a budget cut when they were released?
评论来自
674759
if deathwing and toravan fight each other, will his beard finally melt(i.e. just 0.1 seconds before he dies)?
评论来自
marc4551
He has the best drops
评论来自
alexiel
We were able to do this boss with 2 tanks, 1 DPS and 1 healer all 85. Our group consists of a feral druid, a prot warrior, a shadow priest doing 12k dps and a disc priest. Don't forget to have the tanks taunt off each other when the debuff runs out.
评论来自
cloud165
worth 22 honor at 85 with guild perks
评论来自
StealthyAssassin
Meele just dps, range dps, kill orbs
评论来自
Jakemanjake
Managed to duo this with (me) A bear with pvp kitty talents and full pvp gear along with a blood dk,we managed to down him 2nd try after we remembered it was a 2 tank fight with me trying to heal him through it which didn't turn out well. Once we both taunted when necessary it went fine. And to top it off the mount dropped!
评论来自
Eillesthis
I assume (but have not tested) that his gold loot has been hit with a big nerf bat to the face in patch 5.0.4, now down to roughly 18g (on 10-man), along with
岩石看守者阿尔卡冯
and
火焰看守者科拉隆
(who I have tested).
评论来自
911103
Soloed a 10-man version of Boss as a Demo Warlock with Voidlord.
Tactic:
Boss is tanked by a Voidlord. Your minion will receive stacks of Frostbite (1k Frost dmg/2sec and reduced movement speed by 5% for 10 sec). At 13 stacks of Frostbite flee from Toravon and wait until Voidlord dies. Then resummon minion and use Soulshatter. Dpsing Boss is more important than healing Voidlord, because Frostbite will be quickly stack. At the next 13 stacks do the same as before. You will probably have cooldown on Soulshatter, so pop up defensive cooldowns and wait until Voidlord gets aggro. On Frozen Orbs cast DoTs - they are finished by your minion. Good Luck and Have Fun!
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqzgv9a04ao
评论来自
901703
Just solo'd this guy as an Retribution Pally with an avg Itemlvl of 470. (10 man)
Once I was unable to keep my self fully healed I used divine shield which gave me a chance to heal and removed his DoT.
After that I just finished him off without much damage to myself.
Emalon was the hardest IMO.
评论来自
981480
Was able to solo this guy as a 480 WW monk:
On a couple previous attempts, I wasn't able to kite him long enough for the debuff to drop off, so I just tanked him the whole fight. I would advise using Expel Harm and Chi Wave on cooldown - he melees pretty heavy, and that debuff is real rough when it gets stacked high. Don't be afraid to start popping defensives like Fortifying Brew and Diffuse Magic (if you took it), and dps cooldowns like Xuen and Tigerseye Brew for more damage. Glyphed Fists of Fury is also really helpful to keep some damage rolling while auto-parrying his melees. The frozen orb uptime seemed neglible, as they would die during a FoF channel, or during a single Spinning Crane Kick, if necessary.
Once he starts to get low and you're out of other defensives, pop Touch of Karma to soak a good chunk of damage and be ready to quickly Touch of Death as soon as you can.
He died when I was at ~50k health remaining with the debuff still at 32 stacks, but I was able to just barely stay alive with passive regen + healing orb spam.
评论来自
Jigs
Soloed this as a Prot Warrior with DPS gear, 1H + shield and stam trinkets.
It was pretty much a DPS race. I died right after him because of the debuff. Be sure to use all of your cooldowns wisely when the debuff stacks too high, and hope for the best.
评论来自
1066239
Solo'ed as a Ilvl 488 Moonkin with (4) set. Started with Starfall (and 1 Wrath away from Lunar eclipse). Popped my cooldowns and used the general rotation, also used Nature's Vigil a wonderfull talent. After that I just had to finish him off had 112k dps at the end of the fight with 9 stacks of his debuff. I guess trough the fight I had around 125-150k~ average dps. So not only tanky classes can do this, just a class with huge dps, or self heals.
Good luck! :)
Got the mount 3 days ago. Good luck everyone who is going for it! :)
评论来自
steppman2
Just soloed as an 89 hunter with decent gear, let your pet die when the damage gets too high but make sure you're far enough away to cast revive pet before he gets to you...rinse and repeat.
评论来自
Azavari
Solo'd as a windwalker monk today.
(At the time of posting, I only had an ilvl of 448, my gear has gotten a little better since then.) This boss was by far the hardest out of the raid, and the only boss I wiped on. Here's my strat:
Important talents and glyphs:
Invoke Xuen
Healing Elixirs
Celerity (although Tiger's Lust could be helpful)
Glyph of Retreat
Pull the boss (I used a Landshark, being an engineer) and immediately pop Invoke Xuen and roll to trigger the fade effect from Glyph of Retreat. Go all out on the boss, but don't pop any more cooldowns just yet--that includes Energizing Brew and Tigerseye brew. When Retreat fades, roll again. This is where Celerity comes in handy--however I don't know if you can roll enough without the glyph, I haven't tried. If you can, Tiger's Lust becomes a better talent, because he freezes you in place making it so you can't roll and you may have to take a couple of hits while Xuen is still up.
After Xuen fades, play defensivesly and burn, using your healing talent (I used Chi Wave) and Expel Harm on cooldown. Blackout Kick should be healing you too--make sure you remove the minor glyph taking away the heal! I used my Phase Fingers here, the dodge tinker. Once you get around 8-10 frostbite stacks, the damage starts to get pretty high. Here I popped a health pot and Touch of Karma. After Karma faded, I used Fortifying Brew and finished him off with around 80% health remaining. Good thing I was paying attention or else I would have died after the fight was over from the remaining Frostbite dot :P
Overall I did 47k DPS, took 755,170 damage, and had 7.2k HPS.
TL;DR:
Pop Xuen, dps and retreat for part one.
Xuen fades, defensive play, cooldowns especially Touch of Karma.
评论来自
401889
Very easily soloable as a level 90 iLVL 507 rogue. Feint will reduce the incoming damage from the debuff you get, Recuperate will help to offset that damage, and when the stacks get high enough, you can Cloak of Shadows to remove it. As Combat spec, a Killing Spree followed by an Adrenaline Rush + Shadow Blades + Kafa Press cycle was all I needed to burn him down.
评论来自
Bogdanov89
On 25man version he has 2 things to worry about:
1. Stacks a very strong frost DoT on his main target (tank).
2. Does a raid wide debuff that increases frost damage taken by a %.
How i soloed him:
I let my pet tank him while i do as much DPS as i can. When my pet dies from the DoT i pop a defensive cooldown and resurrect my pet - then Feign Death to drop my own aggro + Misdirect so boss goes for the pet.
This makes my pet come back without any debuffs, allowing it to tank the boss with no issues for a while.
I repeated this process until the boss was dead.
评论来自
Anok8
寒冰看守者图拉旺
dropped
重型黑色猛犸战象的缰绳
for me.
评论来自
Kryyn
Nearly solo'd as 85 Blood DK twink. At 10% health I died. Not fully enchanted and missing a few BiS items. Will keep trying.
评论来自
arkensis
Just attempted 25-man with an ilvl 530 elemental shaman. Very likely that this fight isn't possible to solo for our class due to the overwhelming amount of damage from the Frostbite debuff. Without a way to shrug it off, it will stack quicker than you can heal yourself.
评论来自
Ladysarah
25 man solod it today on my ilvl 535 retribution paladin.
The biggest challenge is cooldown management to deal with his debuff, and a bit of RnG luck.
What I also want to point out is the importance of trying to keep up Inquisition, at least for your Avenging Wrath phases. It's 30% holy damage and 10% crit you do not want to miss in this race against time.
Use Seal of Insight; you'll need the healing. Blow all cooldowns on start, start using Divine Protection every time it's off cooldown after getting 8+ debuffs the first time. Don't use bubble before he's on 50%, if you have to do so you will not get him down.
After bubble, your Avenging Wrath should be close to being up again. Using that should get him near 20% after which it's a race against time. Use everything you have, keep using Divine Protection and use Lay on Hands as late as possible (preferably immediately use Divine Protection afterwards) and pray you'll get him before the debuffs get you.
I managed after about 5 tries, it's hard but not impossible even without a pet to take the debuffs for you. Hope this helps anyone.
评论来自
intuit
Solo'd as a ilv 510 ret paladin. I'm not very good on my pally, as he's a alt i rarely play, but I was able to kill him on 25man by myself after 2 tries. Honestly, it's not worth the effort. The other bosses on 25man give 250-300 honor each, with koralon giving the most and archavon giving the least. I figured this guy would give more than koralon. I got a measly 51 honor. I think it's not much more than 10man, which is far, FAR easier.
评论来自
djspock92
Soloed as a 540 BM hunter. 25m version
Couldn't dps him down fast enough with 140k dps - frostbite stacking debuff eventually killed me.
Second try - Had to FD and let pet tank twice until frostbite wore off, bandaged up and started dpsing again.
评论来自
thebl4ckd0g
this guy is extremely hard for ranged classes or if you do not have enough iLvl to out-dps him and his debuffs. good luck!
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