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评论来自
biogoo
Items obtained through archaeology will be BoA.
评论来自
Siromo
I absolutely love that blizz brought this bad boy back.
评论来自
ViceVersa
One of the rare tier items in Troll Archaeology.
Requires 150 Troll Archaeology Fragments.
Keystone:
Troll Tablet
Common tier Troll items:
Zandalari Voodoo Doll
Fetish of Hir'eek
Eerie Hakkari Idol
Lizard Foot Charm
Jade Asp with Ruby Eyes
Feathered Gold Earring
Cinnabar Bijou
Atal'ai Scepter
Gahz'rilla Figurine
Skull-Shaped Planter
Bracelet of Jade and Coins
Drakkari Sacrificial Knife
Tooth with Gold Filling
Fine Bloodscalp Dinnerware
Rare tier Troll items:
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds
巫毒雕像
寄魂战鼓
评论来自
Butch82
Zin'rokh can be obtained as soon as you hit 450 skill in Archaeology and complete troll artifacts. If you are lucky, you get assigned Zin'rokh as your next "solve".
If you fill the three "sockets" of this solve with
Troll Tablets
, you can reduce the total amount of troll fragments needed from 150 to 114.
EDIT(clarification for people not knowing how archaeology works):
You fly around the world, digging up fragments for different races. You have a different "task" for each race, that can be "solved" as soon as you have collected the correct amount of fragments for that race. When you solve a task(aka artifact), you get 5 skillpoints plus that artifact in your inventory (mostly grey vendor trash) and get assigned a new task/artifact, depending on your current skill in archaeology.
For Zin'rokh, you have to have 450+ skill to have a chance of receiving it as your next task. But most likely you will have to solve a lot of grey crap before you are lucky to get it. There are a lot of people in beta with 525 in archaeology and a lot of solved troll artifacts, but still no Zin'rokh yet, whereas i got it on my first or second troll solve past skill 450. It's just dumb luck.
评论来自
673286
Whats gonna happen if we still have the original? will it get changed or removed?
评论来自
128727
No.. Everytime you "solve" an artifact, you get an item. Most likely a common item that sells like 1gold to vendor. Then you will get a new "solve", and if you're lucky, it will be a rare artifact, as
Butch82
said. Maybe a
Zin'rokh
artifact, and you may get
http://cata.cuckhead.com/item=64377
. Its not a quest or a daily. If you're lucky enough, you can get this rare artifact Solve 5 times a day.
评论来自
696828
I doubt they'll nerf the weapon damage... as Zin'rokh and Reclaimed Ashkandi have the same stats and are of a higher swing speed than the other 2-handers gained in raids. They'd have to lower the swing speed to justify a nerf. Weapon damage never has to be in line with other 2-handers of the same item level as long as weapon dps stays the same.
As for the extra strength, they may shave off 33 in order to bring it up to 359 levels... In the end, the decision between Zin'Rokh and Ashkandi will be purely aesthetic until you do heroic modes.
评论来自
Supercool
While it would be nice to give the model a slight update, more than anything I wish they would flip the sword back around. Originally Zin'rokh's point was curved downward. See its spiritual successor
Jin'rohk
for an example of this. For that matter, see some of the earlier screenshots of the
original
. At some point after Wrath released, for no stated reason, the model was flipped around so the tip pointed up.
评论来自
244522
Just curious... if you send it to your DK and runeforge it, will it be impossible to send it to another toon?
I got a paladin, a warrior and a DK and they all will have some use for it when hitting 85... just wondering how enchants
affect the BoA?
Best to put a normal enchant on it and only use on paladin and warrior?
edit: lol at muppets downrating for no reason now, the new WoWHead-achievements are doing great things to this site...
评论来自
sorsa
So, who else is in the "I'm gona level Archeology pretty much for this babe alone" -club? *raises hand*
评论来自
263854
I know how archeology works and i know you need to be above 450 skill BUT... Do you need to be level 85 before you actually acquire this as one of your projects?
So far i have done NOTHING but archeology since the release and i am currently level 84 just from the XP i am getting from looting artifacts. I have been maxed 525 since i was in 83 and i was over 450 at level 82. As of right now i have ALL of the blue vanity items and both the level 60 and 70 BoA epics and the Skeleton mount as well as the Skeleton and Gnome pets. The only things i have yet to get are any of the level 85 BoA items.
I am actively only working on getting this sword and i just started to think it might not be possible until level 85 and im wasting my time and artifacts. I currently have found ever single common Troll artifact (there are 14 different commons) multiple times for a total of 38.I just did the math i have i have used 1248 troll artifacts. That number would be if i did not use any Troll Tablets, which i did, but i really dont know exactly how many but id fairly accurately guess that i used somewhere around 25. So i actually looted somewhere around 950 Troll artifacts. SO... That means i have cleared about 105 troll dig sites.
So those are my current numbers and i have yet to get the sword project to pop for me. I know its all random and i may be so unlucky that i NEVER see it (god forbid) but its starting to get to the point that im thinking it could be that i just need to hit 85 first and im wasting my artifacts right now. Especially considering since i have gotten every other rare item that does not require level 85. If anyone can actually confirm or let me know if they got it before 85 that would be awesome. Just to be safe im just going to level to 85 before i keep trying
Basically im trying to see if anyone can confirm they have gotten this BEFORE they were level 85 or if someone can give definative proof that it is not possible till 85. Im starting to think i wasted a LOT of troll artifacts....
Edit(12/17/10):
Ok i have seen multiple armor activity pages that shows they acquired this before they got to 525 and/or level 85 so i guess 450 probably is legit but no idea what other requirements. Either way its still a
very
low random chance and really not worth hoping you are just that lucky. Youll most likely end up like me and find out the hard way that you are NOT. Im currently giving up at just over 210 projects and more hours then i can count and instead getting the T1 PvP weapon that will only take me 2-3 weeks and about 3 hours of actual game play to get. GL to all you stubborn hopefuls
/waves goodbye to the last 10 days of his life
评论来自
darclyght
i feel your pain man i dropped 900 troll relics the second i tagged 450 was 84 and no luck tryen to save up again on the grind to 85 but i seem to only gett dwarf now that the twilight highlands are open
评论来自
Wuxmus
I'm sitting at ~100 finished troll projects... It is simply that rare, my best guess is a 1% drop chance.
Well, best non-hardmode weapon ingame, so it's time well spend (that and I actually having fun grinding archaeology)
评论来自
Cromulon
You tried getting it? It's
incredibly
time consuming and luck based.
评论来自
sorsa
Tip: When completing an artifact ALWAYS use your keystones when possible, any spillover is paid out as normal fragments and are available for the next solve right away, whereas you have to wait until the next socketed artifact before you can use your keystones again.
评论来自
626410
On 76th troll artifact created/solved after hitting 525. Everytime I solve a troll artifacts, and the next solve isn't Zin'rokh, a piece of my sould dies : (
评论来自
185317
I can confirm that you can get the 85 epics, though not this one in particular. I got both the healer trinket, and the caster ring at 84. Currently working on this one with over 125 greys done. Decided that I'm not going to do anything else until I get this weapon, even if it means Christmas in front of the computer (though I would probably be here anyway).
评论来自
321449
I leveled archaeology to 450 without using a single troll fragment. By the time I reach 450, I have ~840 fragments and 34 tablets. I started solving troll fragments right away, after 34 attempts I was out of troll fragments and sadly, no Zin'rokh.
I am greatly disappointed and not sure when to do atm. If I give up now, my efforts from the last three days, which 90% of the time were spent on leveling archaeology, would be wasted. If I continue on, I am not sure how long it will take for me to get it, considering few comments here indicating that they have done more than 100 attempts and still no luck.
In order to get 100 attempts, you need~2400 fragments if you have tablets and use them every time when you have the chance. That means ~1560 more fragments for me, and considering that it took me 3 days of full play time to collect 840 fragments, it will take me another ~6 days of full time to gather ~1560 fragments and still there's no guarantee.
I think it would be best if Blizzard can post the chance of getting Zin'rokh, like 1 in 100, or 1 in 200 because that's really what I need right now, to know that if I continue, I will definitely get the sword, not 1 in 1000 chances and never get it. It will greatly boost my desire to collect more fragments, but as of now, that desire is very low, considering how boring archaeology is.
评论来自
pudsley
Levelled to 450, saved all troll fragments, hit 525 in minutes from troll solves, no Zin.
2 Days and over 100 solves later and I'm losing the will to live.
What's more the poorly thought out assignment of dig sites is drivingt me up the wall, why should I have to keep visiting Dwarven and Fossil digsites when I have every single item they can offer?
评论来自
Kenpally
I don't understand why people still don't get the random drops are random. No matter how you go about this its still what seems to be a 1% solve.
I'm currently leveling in just EK not solving anything anymore until I get what I feel is an appropriate amount of troll frags + tablets combined. I have about 600 frags and 28 tablets which combined is about 900. I will be finishing off to 450 when I get about 2500ish. I'll let you know how that goes but it probably wont be until tomorrow or wed depending on how much I can farm.
-Ken (US Illidan)
P.S. - For anyone new to the farm the best way that I can tell to get troll frags is from EK
before
450. If you hit 450 you will activate the Tol'Vir fragment digsites in VJ and TH. While under 450 the digsites are dwarf, fossil and troll. Everytime you finish a digsite it spawns a new one on the continent. Sometimes you get a lot of troll ones, sometimes you don't. I can average about 75 troll frags an hour so the rest of my grind looks to be a solid 20 hours. Hurray.
Tried in northrend after hitting 375. There are NE, Vykrul, Nerub and Troll sites so when you finish one its only 1/4 of being troll where as EK theres just Troll Fossil and Dwarf. Its a long grind so be prepared.
评论来自
Balnagghar
Why do you need to be 450+ Skill? There seems to be no basis for that assumption, can I see a source?
评论来自
731721
Anyone got this?someone can confirm that it is on LIVE realms?
评论来自
Brightstar
Going to do my best to minimize leveling while collecting Troll fragments, currently at 450 and am going to simply farm my ass off with Troll stuff, will report back if I get a large enough sampling to do a mass create while <85 to see if I get the Zin and can thus confirm you don't have to be 85 to get it to pop. Then again, I may break down and make sure I'm 85 just in case. We shall see.
评论来自
305828
I'm just posting to tell you how I got the sword.
I was level 85, Basically did nothing but Eastern Kingdoms. Used NONE of my troll fragments till i hit 440 and got too lazy to do the last 2 items... At 440 i had about 1200 artifacts and 48 Tablets. I reached 525 and was down to 400 artifacts and slowly started losing hope, till boom, there it was. If you have any questions feel free to reply.
My Armory :
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/Darkspear/Alazuris/simple
评论来自
731721
Oh thanks Deltasquad03 i think thats the best way to get the sword
评论来自
aggression
How can people say "You can get it at 450+ already" without even a source that you can?
No point turning them all in until you're 525, then you can be sure that you've done all there is to really have a chance.
So until no one show any proof/source of this being obtainable at 450+, then go for 525.
EDIT: I don't see why ppl downgrade my post. Because there is no single proof about anyone that got the Zin'rokh before 525. No, wowwiki do not count as source as my mom could have written it.
评论来自
Panzartar
This is a terrible and boring grind, i've spent over 1000 troll fragments trying to get this sword, and heard that people got it right after they got 450 skill in archeology. As cool as this sword may be, if you don't get it after spending over 1000 fragments, i would give up, it's not worth the hours of time you could spend on grinding materials for the BS weapons.
评论来自
Restroombear
I am at around 100 solves after 450.
I have come up with a plan to make this less painful.
I am now gonna start leveling arch on all of my alts saving all my troll fragments until 450 until I get it. As you probably know arch gives xp and I believe you can get from 80-83 just from 1-525 arch?
This, at least for me, will make grinding all this arch feel a little more rewarding until I find the sword. Not to mention this will eliminate the vash/twilight dig sites as well.
Edit: and hey! maybe get some extra mounts for your alts. SAVE YOUR SOUL! I almost lost mine.
评论来自
Sawedoffsob
This is a BFS. In a FPS's eyes.
评论来自
732536
and yet I have to see any proof that the 450 skill is required, where did he get this info, from a gamemaster ?
评论来自
Balnagghar
Hour 37 of Arching after level 450. Troll solve # 83. 1 question for Ghostcrawler... Wtf did I ever do to you?
评论来自
darclyght
well thats it for me 3400 troll fragements and no zin rohk sword isnt work another minute of my life
评论来自
archmagee
Silly tauren in the screenshot is holding his sword upside down
评论来自
672028
I'm 525 and only completed about 15 common troll artifacts after 450 because I was dumb and didn't save my troll fragments for 450. I keep getting too many Dwarf, Fossil, and Night Elf dig sites in Eastern Kingdoms presently.
Any tips?
I'm thinking blizzard might need to change something. We shouldn't be forced to do those 3 while Outlands only has two. Even if they keep 4 together, I still go through too many of those sites just to get to a troll. Before 450 I was getting a lot of Troll.
评论来自
PHOENIXZERO
*twitch* Used all my troll fragments (had well over a 1,000 and I know it's not a lot in the grand scheme of things) at like 469, maxed it and then some... Got nothing.
Now while still going crazy and farming around getting the troll sites back, I finally break down and do the dwarf artifact that I've had since I've been building up since and after two common artifacts that required two keystones I get
Staff of Sorcerer - Thane Thaurissan
.... *twitches* I only had a bit over 100 fragments at this point btw so it wasn't like I did a large amount in a row.
I guess my druid has a nice weapon when I get him to 85. >_>
Thinking we all would be best off to wait until 525.... And I might be crazy but artifacts with two keystone slots might mean a higher chance for a rare on the next one... But seeing as none of the troll ones have this, I don't know...
Had some Night Elf ones too that I decided to use and that's resulted in artifact with two keystones... Bet I'll get another rare. <_<
EDIT AGAIN: I was right, just finished Unbra Cresent and the next artifact was the
Kaldorei Wind Chimes
. I think Blizz is trolling us with Trolls not having any two keystone slot Common items.
评论来自
pipboy650
I'm up to 2612 troll fragments used equal to roughly 85 solves or so. While farming for this from the very beginning (I lvled from 81-85 farming fragments) i've only gotten 2 pets, 4 random bull%^&* items, the
化石迅猛龙
and
小精灵护符
Still trying to get this bad boy for my paladin, and congratulations too thoose who got it already :)
评论来自
Wreden
Can someone confirm that you only need 450 to get this item? And if that is the case, wouldn't it be easier to stay at 450/450 since you don't need to go to vashj'ir or twilight highlands to digg?
Please confirm. Im about to get to 450 and I really want to know if I should stay at 450 or go to 525. I only want this item so it would help alot.
评论来自
pudsley
Still going strong here, over 200 troll solves thus far and no Zin, be warned. (that's approximately 7000 fragments working on 35 per solve (sometimes less, sometimes more).
I'm at 525 skill, saved all my troll solves for 450+.
If you have my kind of luck you may be at this a very long time.
评论来自
734089
I just want to know if it's discoverable before level 85. I'm leveling my 2nd archeologist because my 1st is maxed with no luck on the sword, and troll dig sites are rare now that I am stuck going to Vash and highlands. My mage is 82, with 1k frags and 28 tablets. But I don't want to solve things unless I know I'll have a shot at it not being 85.
评论来自
Kenpally
Well today was my big day. Farmed ~2800 frags before using my dwarf and fossil to hit 525. Did 84 solves at 525 and got nothing. Fun. :/
评论来自
734649
Isn't it possible to just stay at artisan or master? I currently have 270/300 in skill and after reading that there will be less troll zones if I skill up higher, why not just save ALL fragments?
When I have alot of fragments, buy new ranks and level up before I spend my troll fragments.
Or is there a downside to this tactic that I haven't thought of?
评论来自
734667
I can confirm you can get this as early as lvl 75.
评论来自
731721
Used 2104 troll fragments+52 troll tablets to solve after 525,NO Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds.Fun times -.-
评论来自
Paulderak
Flipping the sword edge was bad idea. Very bad idea. It looks ugly and wrong. And knowing blizzard, I wouldn't bet on the sword returning to it's original look.
评论来自
smellyead
After 2 days at 450+, and having spent over 1500 trol fragments, I've still not got it yet. I'm starting to lose the will to live now, since Cata zones on EK screw over your troll sites.
If anyone knows if its better to farm on Northrend than EK for roll fragments please say so :D
评论来自
356379
Wonder how many swords I could make out of all these teeth...
评论来自
pudsley
As for the person who wanted me to link achievments for the 200 troll solves? what exactly is the point of that?
There isn't any achievements for how many you solve, the 100 common solves (Diggerest) is also referring to different solves since I have never done archeology outside of Kalimdor/Eastern Kingdoms I'm stuck at 73/100.
Short of having to screenshot each mouseover tooltip for each of the 14 common troll artifacts in the game there really is no way of me proving how many solves I've done, suffice to say I hit 85 in around three days and have spent almost every hour not spent sleeping, bathing or excercising doing archeology for Zin'Rokh, I'm just that stubborn.
So, believe me or don't belive me, I'm going to keep going until I get it then, maybe I will do a you tube video showing the total troll solves just for the hell of it.
Fun Fact : Troll Dinnerware is my most common solve, I set a table to feed an army at present.
Have also done more Dwarven solves than troll at this point, seen no staff either, so casters have it pretty bad as well.
评论来自
734476
I spent the last few days farming for this and just when I was about to give up hope, got this as my next solve. Looks like I got very lucky. Since the profession is extremely time consuming I didn't save any fragments while leveling, and it took me about 20-30 troll solves after I hit 450 to get the sword as my next solve. Now that you can get 3 to 6 fragments per dig, it should make getting the sword easier although I dont know the exact % of the drop rate.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/shattered-hand/solarcyn/simple
评论来自
438538
Should be renamed "Zin"rokh, Destroyer of time" :/
评论来自
735736
After a week of constant 12+ hour a day farming of Archaeology, it finally popped up in my book after a troll solve in Tanaris. Used Death Gate to port to Eastern Kingdoms to farm fragments and when I got there it had disappeared from my book... replaced with a common. Now I get to wonder if the game will think I've already solved it, thus never finding it again.
/sigh
评论来自
SheriffK
660 Troll Fragments and 19 Tablets... No Zin'Rokh... /cry
评论来自
gomjabar
How do you check troll solves? ive checked achieves but cant find anything?
评论来自
735736
There is no way of keeping track. People that tell you how many they've solved are either pulling those numbers out of their butt or actually kept track themselves.
I don't know how many solves I've done, but I have nearly every achievement. Missing only 3 more rares for the final achievement. I have well over 3,000 fossil fragments saved up because there is simply no reason to do those solves. I have been digging about 12-16 hours per day for over a week. At this point I would probably keel over from a heart attack if I knew the actual number of solves I've completed.
评论来自
263854
Here is some hopefully helpful information and thoughts for anyone considering trying to start this right now.
Actually, this is more of a cautionary warning...
This is by far the worst grind and most painful and frustrating thing i have ever done. With other grinds, even as mindless and tedious as they might be you at least know when you will be done and how many kills or items you still need to collect and can at some point see the light at the end of the tunnel. But not with this. Yes it may not be hard to do and you have no competition... but there is no guarantee you will
EVER
get it! At a certian point you start to almost hold your breath and then cringe every time you solve a troll project and do not see what you were hoping for. And every time you see a dig site pop up in AJ or TH you want to just punch someone from blizzard.
The only reason i was so intent on getting it, and doing it fast, was to get a huge jump on the PvP season. But now that the season has started i find out that you can get an equal weapon in the second to third week of Conquest point collection and it makes me even more furious that i wasted so much time on this. The fact that this weapon is BoA gives it some extra worth and being able to give an alt a boost when you first level them is nice, but if you know anything about wow you can almost guarantee there will be other items released that are better and easier to obtain with-in a few months. With most items that take a lot of time and effort they usually are top of the line and hold up for a while, which is what i though this would be... but there are already numerous other 2hers that are much easier to obtain and are much less of a gamble if you will actually ever get it or not such as the PvP weapons which are just as good and guaranteed.
The fact that Archeology is random with EVERY aspect (dig site spawns, project chance, token drops) makes farming for this pretty much a HUGE gamble of just wasting a LOT of your time.
After wasting the last 10 days of my life i truly think that archeology is very poorly executed and broken as far as reward and enjoyment of your time spent and i hope that it is drastically changed soon. So unless you just LOVE wow lore and stupid vanity items(with way to long of a CD btw) or you really dont care about wasting countless hours in the hopes of being one of the lucky few then dont even bother till they change it.
I know this post might get down rated and purged but unless you really disagree with what i said then please dont down rate this. I hope that you and others at least have a chance to read this and possibly heed my warning. This really can be incredibly demoralizing and infuriating and make you want to just quit wow and ruin all the other amazing things they did with cataclysm... and this probably will be the case for you too. So honestly consider this before you get all pumped up thinking you are going to start Archeology and plan to get this weapon. But if you still are going to go for it then...
Good luck!
because that is all this is, pure chance, but im done getting TROLLED by Blizz!(##RESPBREAK##)8##DELIM##hatman555##DELIM##
评论来自
7675
I saved troll fragments until I hit 525 and got this in just 3 projects. I think being the only troll rare item really helps the chances.
评论来自
736279
2600 Troll fragments and over 80 Troll keystones after 450 and nothing. This is literally the most luck-based find in all of WoW. If you managed to find it in under 1500, consider yourself the luckiest person you know, and go buy a lottery ticket.
评论来自
250671
I didnt save troll fragments and i going mad of this. Now, with 525 digging troll's areas is more tougher with more locations is available in Eastern Kingdoms. Can i reset my skill? Omg...
评论来自
Soji
I'm aiming to do Archaeology purely for this item.
My plan (correct me if my thinking is wrong):
Dont skill Archaeology past 100 purposefully as it unlocks other possible digging sites(increasing the chance of Troll sites).
Save all fragments, especially from Troll.
Solve all except Troll at the same time when a large amount of fragments have been obtained.
Solve all Troll last and hope to RNG the item.
Does anyone see a problem with that method?
评论来自
355804
Am I correct in assuming that because the sword isn't Unique-Equipped and is Bind to Account, you could have an 85 Warrior dual-weilding 2 of these, provided to were lucky enough to have it 'drop' as a project on 2 characters?
评论来自
Arrent
This item is actually harder to farm fragments for past 450, since EK gains 2 digsites in each Vashj'ir and Twilight Highlands.
I guess I got lucky though, 15-20 Troll Projects since I hit 450 and I'm making it now.
评论来自
736605
Aah, 68 solves and counting! Maybe I put numbers for tomorrow lottery too!
评论来自
736636
ok so i just found out that items do repeat even though you havent completed all the other possible commons.
评论来自
PHOENIXZERO
I'm up to 88 solves, not going to do any more until I have enough fragments to reach 100, if I don't get it with that I think I'm going to have myself committed. I seem to be getting rares from everything BUT Troll... Makes me wonder if the rare rate is just that much out of whack with other categories..
I wish I could give up but I'm not going to let Blizzard's RNG gods beat me. >_<
评论来自
Lenus
I believe that a lot of ppl, try to research about this thing.
only 1 thing I can say that, This is seriously hard , rare and RNG
i capture a vdo when i solve 8XX trolls only artifact since my skill was 470
and result is .......
here my vdo link on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6LXnCDI-Vk
i recommend anyone who are not start doing archaeology yet, go find something else to do. it very time consuming and hopeless sometime.
gg
评论来自
510610
i recomend for anyone lvling archeology to get 100-450 solving only fossiles. cuz if ur aiming for the 20 rare solves its the best way. maybe solving some nightelf wont hurt becuse u will fly around in kalimdor alot for tol'vir. but if you want the trinket or something else from nightelfs. dont solve them ofc.
trust me. it takes alot longer to lvl like that. maybe 3 tiems longer. but its worth it.
becuse. you really dont wanna survey in eastern kingdom after 450. it sucks balls.
the reason i started to think about this is only becuse of the reason that fossiles only got 2 rares. and u get them early on, and u can only get them once.
so id like to think that ur chance of getting something good is higher when u start solving something else.
评论来自
730079
I saved 900 dwarf and 1500 troll frags, plus 30-40 charms each, used them at 485 and got 2 blue items from dwarf and jack @#$% for troll. $%^& lady luck in her dirty ass.
评论来自
Heph
Has ANYONE gotten this at 525? I hope it's not a case like the JC trinkets that wouldn't drop once you're 85.
Everyone who has gotten it so far seems to have been between 450 and 525.
I saved all my troll fragments and am now at over 150 artifacts solved at 525 for troll. FML.
评论来自
makzmakz
Btw, does anyone here know if there is a difference in the troll spawn rate whether or not you constantly farm the troll sites with highest priority? I.e. is it worth travelling all the way down to Stranglethorn if there is a troll site there, even though there are several dwarf etc. just where you are?
评论来自
ethicaodini
Top 10 reasons you'll end up committing suicide before obtaining Zin'Rokh
10. You haven't spoken to your significant other since Level 1 archaeology.
9. Red, Green, Green, Green, Green... WAIT WTF WHAT HAPPENED TO YELLOW?
8. You used to like dwarves but now absolutely hate the dwarven race and anyone who plays it.
7. You leveled past 450 not realizing that you'll now have to dig in Vash'jir.
6. You leveled to 450 including using troll fragments.
5. You are overjoyed when you see anything in STV.
4. You realize that digsite that just popped in STV is the fossil one, you begin to throw things.
3. You leveled to 525 on or before 12/9 and still working at it.
2. One of your friends links Zin'Rokh in guild chat with the words "sweet" or "yay"
1. RNG, RNG, RNG AAAAAAAAAH!
Good luck! I know I'm still working on it.
评论来自
492590
Why was anyone expecting it to be easy to get the best weapon in the game from a secondary profession that requires you to right click a sparkle? After completing The Insane achievement pre-nerf, farming this weapon is like a vacation.
评论来自
ledbullet
i got mine today :D. I am 525 skill and have solved about 100 artifacts total. about 20 troll. i didn't use any special farming tactics just kept digging whilst in the 30 min dps dungeon queues and got it that way.
评论来自
510610
really dont solve any troll or dwarf fragments until u have 2k of each. eastern kingdom is a nightmare after 450
评论来自
sylderion
Hello there, one question... you can put a rune in this two handed sword as Death knight with Runeforging?
Becouse this is a Bind on account item :S
edit: ok just saw a guy with it, i was worry about it, nvm and Good Luck!
评论来自
737953
Just got this after an incredible luck streak with this proff. I found myself with the mount and 5 other rares before hitting 445. At this point i had just over 1000 troll pieces saved up and wasnt sure if i should go for it or save up another 1k aftter reading about people not getting it after 200 + solves. I went ahead anyway and had it come up after only 5 solves leaving me with over 800 troll pieces left and 28 tablets.
All i can say is dont give up, because the damage increase of this weapon compared to the 346 blues is huge not to mention its incredible looks. Im chuffed to get this less than 2 weeks into the expansion will last a looong time.
评论来自
Kenpally
Did 84 solves at 525 from saving frag. Been going at it the past few days and another 50 solves, still nothing doing. Lame.
评论来自
217667
I had 4000 fragments and 101 tablets. Used all at 525.
Went through em all. Nothing. Cutting off my right man parts because it's less painful.
Used 1600 dwarf frags + 35 rune stones @ 525 and nothing for that either.
评论来自
Random771452
why should I have to keep visiting Dwarven and Fossil digsites when I have every single item they can offer?
you have
http://www.cuckhead.com/item=64489]
from dwarf sites already? Getting that is just as hard as Zin, along with any of the others. Give it to your caster alts, it's gona be difficult to replace that too
评论来自
258138
Total solves:
Dwarf: 94
Fossil: 39
Night Elf: 21
Troll: 145
No Zin'rokh or Staff yet. I know I should just give up and do something else. But it kills me knowing how much time I have invested with nothing to show for it.
评论来自
uranux
Believe me if I say this is not a 1% chance ... probably a 0,6% or something ..
In a while i will resolve something around 10000 fragments and 250 troll tablet .. if the result will be negative .. i think i'll have something to say and write on Blizzard Forum
评论来自
makzmakz
Just figured out one important thing.
While digging, make sure to always dig the troll sites with the highest priority. This will "unlock" that site to be spawned again, and that can happen as soon as your next dig site is dug (lol the gramar?).
评论来自
Malthael
Just used the tip to save all the Troll fragments untill 450 - then skill on it to 525. Had a total of around 2400 troll saved up, and only got crap from it. Going to continue farming for the sword, since I've been farming for way too long to give up now. I really feel sorry for the rest of you that haven't gotten it yet.
评论来自
furyform
Got it on my druid, now I just need an alt to use it :s haha
As for completing the weapon, the archaeology data for completing it sheds some possibly interesting info :) I just don't feel like spoiling it
评论来自
Momentum
can anyone confirm if it is possible to get to skill 450 and just not buy the upgrade to 525. then solve all your troll stuff and get the sword.
i mean if you dont use the higher skills u wont open the rest of the sites and thus can farm away in EK but i`m not sure if it will increase decrease the chance to get this sword.
评论来自
738512
ive seriusly been farming this thing for 4 days straight Still no succes...
评论来自
362823
Got it yesterday: 150 troll artifacts. Uploading a screenshot also, had bout 450 skill when it showd up in my archeology.
评论来自
makzmakz
Ok there is still noone in this thread that can prove that they got it at skill 525. Starting to think that is is bugged in the same way that the jc-trinkets were.
- All of the success stories so far have gotten it between 450-524.
- All the fail stories (you guys who have been solving 2k+ fragments) have been at 525 a long time.
Please, if anyone can confirm that they got it AT 525 I would be very thankful.
EDIT: This was wrong, since Alazuris got it at 525.
评论来自
TNC420
Been farming this since Arch came out I have found 12 rares and not this. Starting to lose hope.
Edit: I have established that I'll probably get all the other rares all the achievement grow old and die before I get this.
Still gonna try lolol xP
评论来自
GulDAnWar
Soooo, I just turned in my 1700 troll artefacts when I hit 450 skill, as expected nothing. However the master question is now, how do you guys keep farming troll stuff when you are at 525?
EK proves rather %^&*ty imho, with twilight and Vashj'ir in the play
评论来自
DivineOne
Must have been lucky then. For me it was troll project nr 27 :).
评论来自
pibbz
Here is the proof that you can get it after 450 skill.
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8070/hihiih.jpg
评论来自
739019
Lol yep...wow, over 200. I'm currently at 76 and it's driving me insane, been maxed at 525 since the 10'th.
评论来自
gomjabar
get the mod Archy...so much better grinding
评论来自
735792
Reading the previous post I realized that I'm lucky: I got the sword after solving around 70-75 troll artifacts. It is a hard work to get it and considering that some people finished over 100 troll artifacts I think it's safe to presume that the drop rate is below 1%.
But: DON"T GIVE UP!....it's worth the hassle.
评论来自
457442
over 1300 fragments used, 35 keystones and no sword, at level 85 with 525 arch, sigh..^&*! isnt worth it, big waste of time..
评论来自
254368
I just got this bad boy last night. Had about 850 fragments and 37 tablets. The sword popped up on my second to last solve. I was at 525 skill. I took a SS for proof.
http://img255.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot121910200728.jpg/]
评论来自
gomjabar
pibbz that screen is interesting. cause the question is can you get it at 450 without advancing arch past 450. But your right at 450 and you did advance. Did you get it, then advance it?
评论来自
TomBombadil
Archeology Anonymous:
Hello, my name is George and I'm an addict.
I started off leveling Archeology trying to kill time in between raids, since my guild were slackers and couldn't level or gear up as fast as I did. I never read any guides, just picked it up, figured out I should dig up to 100 and then solve, solved everything after 100 just to get skill faster. I was hoping to get the tol'vir bug mount, maybe, nothing else.
I leveled up to 450 in 2 days and went to dig my first Uldum dig site ... got Ring of the Boy Emperor as my first project. My main's a warlock so ... I got hooked. I managed to complete it in 4 hours, with some luck and insane digging in Kalimdor.
So I went online and checked what the other epics are. Obviously the staff and Zin'Rokh caught my eye.
I already had 525 archeology so I found out how screwed I am with EK digsites. I tried digging for 2 days but Vashj'ir finally cracked my sanity.
So now I am leveling my alt (warr) through Archeology only. Digging in EK only, saving up all troll & dwarf, gonna solve only fossil and the few NE.
I know some suggest you should prospect dwarf until 375 so you can unlock the 3-6 fragment drop rate, but that basically screws your chances at the staff. Since I want both the staff and the sword (or at least either, yet I am THAT greedy :p), I'd rather do it with fossil only. Besides the difference between 3-5 and 3-6 is only 1 fragment on average per dig site. (since 3-6 can only drop 3, 4 or 6, but not 5).
Started today and as of now I have ~350 dwarf, ~300 troll and ~300 fossil. Gonna reach 375 with fossil and see how many troll&dwarf I have then.
评论来自
570472
I got very lucky on my Zin'rokh.
As soon as I hit 450, I started spam-solving troll artifacts. Zin'rokh got rolled after only 6 solves.
Good luck to all those hunting this awesome entry-level raid weapon! Stick with it.
评论来自
731721
3100 Troll Fragments 80 Tablets used and NOTHING.gg really FUN profession
评论来自
739815
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv7JPDwwuCw
I have a hunch. Since they started implementing the "transmuting in zone x gets you element y" in alchemy, i figured solving artifacts in certain spots might affect (effect?) what you discover. So i did this in a troll dig site to be safe.
评论来自
739868
I just got this! I watched Mooglelord's video and caved in and solved 1800 of my 2400 fragments. I was also in a troll survey site as recommended by Mooglelord. After 450 skill, I've solved approximately 3500 fragments to successfully obtain the sword with 600 fragments leftover.
评论来自
725593
Yes, let this be a warning to anyone considering pursuing this sword. I have been at it for 2 days as well, completed over 50 troll artifacts (all after 450) and am still on the hunt. This takes forever and i'm doubting myself lately and yes, losing my sanity.
PS thankfully while i was typing this deathwing just put me in my place by a mid-air collision with him. rofl. Stood in the flames my ass - the flames stood on ME!
King Knub
评论来自
Ultimos
As im sure you all know by now when you have a rare item in your queue the fragments from that race become rarer than usual, my method for maximizing the amount of fragments i get from trolls was simple, bring rares into the queue for all the races besides troll 2/4 sites were always troll for me after i did this. Good Luck! (I got this sword after 4000 fragments and 100 troll tablets, it took 3 full days to farm all of this but considering the speed on this and its current stats even the sword from nefarian wont replace it, in fact this is BiS until heroics IMO for a UH dk)
评论来自
drakoz
Does anyone know if you have to be level 85 to get ZR to pop up?
评论来自
Atrea
I received this item a few days ago, after quite a few Troll solves. (I didn't count them.)
I can confirm that you can get it after reaching 525 skill, so there is no truth to the "Can't acquire at higher than 450 skill" nonsense.
评论来自
656149
What i did was that i leveled from 0-450 without using 1 troll fragment or troll tablet- and started solving when i hitted 450.
I got it after 9 solves- ( 495 skill ) had 1700more troll fragments to use and a 51 tablet soo kinda sucked:p
Armory is
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/bloodfeather/runosaurus/simple
评论来自
739693
First char, main, solved ~2000 frags past 450, no drop.
Second char, lvld to 83½ from 80 thru arch, ~2000 frags past 450, no luck.
Third char, since im not really a fan of alts, currently leveling thru arch from 70, 73 and counting atm.
will get her to 85 thru arch and solve the frags i have then, currently at ~1k frags, 5-7k at 85 perhaps.
I'd rather grind for the insane again twice then go thru this for no reward.
It will all be worth it when It finally pops tho.
best of luck to everyone else farming for this, lets hope xmas comes early =)
评论来自
741061
This reminds of my first epic I ever gotten. I was carried through ZG on my old warrior, now I have to redeem myself on my new warrior and get the new one.
Edit: So, This will show something, I'm not going to stop farming it, and it is 9:35 (P.M)... and I'm not stopping until I get it, and I've already done 35 troll archs, so wish me luck :D
评论来自
Ripez
@Mooglelord
I would like to know, was the troll dig site "active" where you were. Just wondering cuz all tips to have beter chances to get this will be used ;)
Edit: To others who got Zin'rokh already: When u got this to ur solve table did you make your last solve at troll digsite or did it happen somewhere else like in Orgrimmar? And if it happened at troll digsite was the digsite active or not?
评论来自
182004
I finally received this in my project book after a week of spending 5-10 hours a day doing nothing but Archaeology. I power rushed Archaeology to 450 and saved all of my troll fragments; I had 1250 fragments saved up. I used them all, and had no Zin'rokh. So I spent the next few days continuing getting troll fragments. I think I had to clean up Vash'jir for EK about 20+ times, drove me nuts. But this is mainly words of encouragement: how bad do you want it? Keep working hard, and it will eventually show up in your project book.
Here's a picture because everyone loves pictures:
http://i53.tinypic.com/qxqqub.jpg
Good luck everyone, and don't give up. It's definitely worth the investment of time.
评论来自
zarbuchan
Waiting for an ancient Warrior hero who played in classic to obtain this and dual wield the 60 and 85 versions.
评论来自
741426
Ok so I leveled 81-85 almost purely off of archeology, except for the occasional dungeon run for sanity sake. I had roughly 2000 troll fragments. I used them all and no luck, I had to take a break to gear up for raids then the last 8 days i've been at it again and tracking how many fragments i farm each day and using them at the end of each day. I have used just over 6500 fragments at this point in time, I have every dwarf and fossil rare and much to my anger i still get those spawns. Some things I feel like have been happening are: you get less keystones at cap but more fragments (don't know how this effects overall productivity).
Anyways, i have yet to get my zin'rokh. At this point i'm about to slip from sanity and... well we all know the rest. Is anyone aware of factors that affect procing zin'rokh and or something that may make me unable to proc it? (I didn't start using my trolls till 450 and i'm 85.)
评论来自
741430
According to
http://www.wow-archaeology.com/archaeology-faq
,
" What is the chance that I find a rare artifact?
When starting a new archaeology project the chance of getting a rare project depends on your archaeology level and the number of projects you have completed for that race before.
You cannot complete the same rare artifact more than once. "
I know it might be a BS site and pose no relevance , but this actually sounds right. read some blue post about this saying that all the rare artifacts are there to be discovered. If it was a matter of pure luck, there wouldn't be an achievement for digging up all the 20 rare artifacts, that would be a feat of strength.
From my experience with blizzard designing achievements and feats of strength (and i know what i am saying here, got 10K achievement points on my main), achievements are there to be earned by anyone, while feats of strength are the "harder or almost impossible" to achieve. If i think about the legendary weapon drops, or very rare mount drops, there is a feat of strength for them because them dropping for you is a matter of pure RNG. not to mention that you split you chances of getting the legendary/ mount with everyone else in the party.
Now, some rare artifacts should be harder to find, they are the equivalent of top non-HC raid weapons. it would be silly to just give them away( everyone would be running around with these weapons if all you needed to do is solve 20-40 troll artifacts and got it).
So, adding all these together,i don't think it's a good idea to start up archeology on another character just because you got 525 and you got the cataclysm zones to spawn dig sites. My logic points to the fact that every troll common artifact you solve get's you closer to getting the sword. Sure, some ppl are lucky bastards and get it on their first 25 solves, others get it at 100, others dont get it after 200. But this counting towards an achievement points to the fact that the chances of this sword popping up as a project increase as you complete more artifacts.
Just think about it.. apply the same logic to all the other hunted rares.. the dwarf staff, the tol'vir staff, weapon and mount. if this was pure RNG, getting the professor title would be harder and take longer in time then farming for all the vanilla legendarys put together( one MC run takes about 1 hour :P ) and there are feats of strength for each of those.
评论来自
738531
Standing at 175 completed troll artifacts (post 450) and still nothing. Sanity? What is that? I think I lost it when I reached 100 completed. I would be inclined to find out what the internal % chance of getting this as the next to solve artifact is, because at this stage, even RNG does not explain why I still have not found this yet.
评论来自
LuckySleven
Total RNG finding this weapon
评论来自
Keter
I'll never admit defeat, I'll get this sword yet.
Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering sword; to the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee
评论来自
462843
i figured i'll farm ZG before it got removed to get the sword and have it popped automaticly to the lvl 85 version... never been so wrong about it T_T farmed 4000 troll artifacts and burned them after each other never procced guess u need %^&*loads of luck as the 200 times i been there and never gotten then tiger mount dropped, i think trolls hate me :(
评论来自
gomjabar
I hit the no return point on farming zinrokh 50 solves ago. Its do or die. I cant stop and have wasted 40 hours of farming with nothing to show for it. It could be my NEXT solve! Btw found this on another site.
/run print("Total artifacts"); for x=1,9 do local c=GetNumArtifactsByRace(x); local a =0; for y=1,c do local t = select(9, GetArtifactInfoByRace(x, y)); a=a+t;end local rn = GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x); if( c > 1 ) then print(rn .. ": " .. a); end end
shows your solves.
评论来自
288456
Can anyone confirm if keeping a rare item in your queue from a certain race makes those fragments more rare? A user posted that it does earlier, and I'm trying to confirm it myself. Right now, I have a Night Elf and a Dwarf rare in my queue. However, after an hour of farming, it does seem that dwarf and night elf fragments now seem to be much less than before I had the rares in queue. Now I'm getting nothing but troll and fossil fragments.
评论来自
aggression
Solved over 100 trolls after I dinged 525, 2 weeks ago. No luck. :)
Working on my mage at the moment. Not done any quest at all, it's lvl 83 now, through archeaology only. :) Only level my skill with fossils. All way to 525.
评论来自
304943
Just in case someone haven't posted this script here, I'll do it again.
This script till tell you how many completed of each artifact you have. Just open up you "Completed Artifacts" tab under Archaeology and run this in the chat:
/run print("Total artifacts"); for x=1,9 do local c=GetNumArtifactsByRace(x); local a =0; for y=1,c do local t = select(9, GetArtifactInfoByRace(x, y)); a=a+t;end local rn = GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x); if( c > 1 ) then print(rn .. ": " .. a); end end
Credits to
Unko
who first showed me this script. Thanks Unko, it works great.
/offtopic
I'm currently on 120 completed Troll Artifacts, I'm not giving up. :)
Good luck everyone.
评论来自
godded
Got mine today 1900 fragments and 41 tablets used.
Finally I got lucky for once. Had 2100 farmed and thought I'll give it a shot, it's christmas after all. :P
Good luck to all out there, dualwielding it with the old
Zin'Rokh
for the luls.
Edit: Btw I did take the advice and stayed below 450 to maximize the troll farm.
评论来自
651244
Just a "minor" upgrade to latest version ;) Im glad to be owner of one of these babys.
评论来自
742346
Hey guys!
I just got this bad boy today, few minutes ago, after 5 days of farming. I just started to level archeology, and at about 200, I stopped to use the troll fragments, only leveled in EK, from dwarf and fossil solves. 2 days ago I stopped at 440, because I don't wanted to unlock the cataclysmic digsites, having more chance on trollsite spawns. So I ended up with 40 tablets and 2060 fragments. Back in OG I used all my dwarf and fossil fragments to level up to 525, had about 880 dwarf fragments, and 650 fossil ones, and some Nelf ones also. At 525 I just started to solve the troll fragments, praying to god it will pop up, which happened when I had 1258 fragments and 20 tablets left. So it is obtainable at max skill, seems from 450-525. I didn't solve all of the 14 common artifacts before, so there is no influence from this side also. Best way is to save the fragments, so you can get the RNG better to work imho.... but I don't really have any good or better idea.
Best of luck to all of you,
Greetings,
Walda - Ragnaros EU
评论来自
Mosg
I multibox. I farmed my 4 Death Knights to 450 skill without completing a single Troll artifact and then recorded me completing all four character's Troll artifacts.
In total, 211 Troll artifacts solved post-450 skill. Know how many Zin'rok's I got?
Zero.
http://www.justin.tv/mosg2/b/276192682
^^Video or it didn't happen.
评论来自
742764
I know this item's a real #$%^& to get, but I'm fairly determined. Got my albino drake, now I'm moving on to this. I'll get it eventually ^-^.
A big thank you to all the people who posted info on requirments to get it, you all rock.
-Lost Avalon.
评论来自
742788
I'm skill 450 now with 1800 fragments and 46 Tablets, but I'm lv 84, do i need to be 85 to have a chance to get it?
评论来自
uranux
No you dont' need it. I already seen an image of a player who has discovered it at 84.
评论来自
uranux
Btw ... 4000 fragments here and 100 tablet. Going for 10.000
评论来自
contextproblem
Just had the project pop up for me. Things to note:
-Completed a gray with before it, no keystone used
-No other rares in my other race queues atm
-Was stood in an exhausted Troll site in STV
edit - screenie removed
评论来自
742788
Got it in my last try! Used 1800 fragments.
评论来自
pudsley
318 Toll Solves and counting.
After around 7000 fragments and around 250 troll solves on my main I decided to minimize time wasted on this and use my alt so he could at least get xp, so started digging with my level 80 Pally.
Took him from 80-84 in 2-3 days purely off digging in EK, couldnt take it anymore, approximately 3000 troll frags in his pack I decided to go for it.
Solved all the fossil frags to get to 450, then burned through every single troll frag with no luck whatsoever.
Whoever came up with this archeology crap needs their head examining almost as much as I do for wasting so much of my life on it.
It's also worth noting that I still aint seen the dwarven staff either, if it's been possible to grind solo for something in this game I've managed it, I solo farmed the mats required for Thunderfury back in classic WoW, never did get the second half of the bindings to complete it.
This grind finally broke me (or fixed me depending how you look at it).
评论来自
phantz
Right. Like most of you, i want this bad boy something fierce. I ground up arch on my paladin without doing any research, so I both wasted a lot of troll artifacts leveling it prior to 450 and then leveled to 450, causing the cata-pop issue that's so familiar by now.
So i'm putting the pally aside and leveling arch all over again with one of my dwarves (for the bonus fragments courtesy of
Explorer
). If he doesn't get it, dwarf 2. If not him, dwarf 3. If not him, gonna start race changing my other 80s. I'm getting this thing, no matter what :P
I'm blogging my experiences
here
, should anyone be interested in my progress...
评论来自
theweapon
Just burned through 1500+ artifacts and about 30-40 tablets. Did not proc.
Not worth it, especially considering the weapon will be obsolete with the next big patch assuming it follows the same trends that WotLK did.. think ToC / ICC 5 weapons - made your Naxx/Uld stuff pointless. If it takes you literally hundreds of hours for this, compared to 15-20 a week raiding, I just don't see the appeal.
So... spend a few days maxing out your profession, but anything beyond that is a waste of time.
评论来自
twistdshade
somebody going for this might want to save up their troll pieces till 450
评论来自
743497
I JUST got this sword moments ago, got too excited to take a screenshot of it. Now, let me share what I did..
I got to 450 without solving a single troll artifact and had around 1600 fragments and I got nothing. I was disappointed but, that didn't stop me from trying to get this sword. I dug for 2 days and I would save up my troll fragments for the day and before I log off, I'd solve all of them. Still nothing.
So, I figured that since I'm getting Troll dig sites less frequently, I won't solve an artifact WITHOUT a troll tablet and that is what I did for 2 days, and I finally got it today.
139 Troll solves. Don't give up if you really want this! Good Luck everyone.
EDIT: it would be neat if we got a title for the sword ... <name> the Soulflayer. -I didn't say I WANTED it, the sword is more than enough. I just thought it would be cool.
评论来自
uranux
Nearly 5000 troll fragments here.
145 Troll Tablet.
Running to 10.000.
I'll shot all in a row.
评论来自
oregonmetal
I crafted this item yesterday.
Archaeology can be very frustrating and time consuming to pursue. Relying on RNG for a profession is infuriating, and more often than not, there isn't even any troll dig sites available. You have to dig fossils and night elf fragments repeatedly to hopefully spawn a dig site in tanaris or stranglethorn, and even when you are solving troll artifacts, there is no guarantee you will EVER spawn a Zin'rokh.
It reminds me of the protodrake eggs; you can buy hundreds week after week, but your chances aren't any better than they were on the very first egg.
In the time I spent pursuing this sword, I could have leveled 3 more toons to 85. That should give you an idea...
评论来自
Vexikuri
Will it show up at 450 of the GM level or do you need to be 450+ Illustrious Grand Master?
评论来自
312797
It's interesting that there are more comments on this page than on shadowmourne's page.
评论来自
743742
Can anyone confirm that Vashj'ir is no longer spawning a dig site?
Before the hotfix that caused triple points for rares, I was getting Vashj'ir once every 30-45 minutes. I've been going for about 8 hours now and I have not gotten it once, but I've gotten Twilight several times.
Anyone seeing something similar?
评论来自
526086
For those leveling Archaeology:
I suggest leveling it on an alt. At 84 I receive almost 15k experience PER dig... multiply that by 3 digs per site, and you have a respectable experience gain.
Looking for Zin'rokh for the main, gaining experience from the process on my alt.
EDIT: Grammar.
评论来自
Shuned
Remember guys, archaeology is supposed to be time consuming, just as it is in real life. It depends on luck, and patience.
评论来自
uranux
8900 fragments, 275 troll Tablet.
Something like 360 tries.
No Zin'Rokh ... and that's not a lie. This is the last insult.
评论来自
744218
Hey all crazy farmers,
after 59 troll commons completed on my main (450+) i decided to farm my alt from 80 to 85 with arch.
after another 121 completed troll commons (450+) finally zin'rokh appeared. ofcourse it killed my soul a couple of times to farm it but in the end it will come.
ps. i can confirm you dont need to be in troll digsites nor in zg. I got the rare popup in orgrimmar.
good luck and merry xmas.
评论来自
534473
I know this will seem like another frustration QQing message, and you'll probably downrate it, but ah well.
This profession is very poorly designed. From a gaming perspective, there's a huge amount of frustration involved with this.
I'm going to use this sword as an example, but it pretty much applies across the board for the profession. The problem is, all of the rewards are RNG based for what is a very time consuming profession. Lots of things in WoW are RNG based, but for most of them, even if you have the worst luck possible, you'll still bring something away from it. Here, you bring NOTHING away from it. A few worthless vendor items. If you're a miner, and you get the minimum possible ore from every rock you see, you're still getting some ore, which is better than nothing. But here, you really are getting nothing - there's just no fun in it.
If that's not enough, further problems arise. There are such a limited number of rewards for many of the races, and once you've completed all the rares of a certain race, you really are deliberately just digging up trash without any purpose. Why would Blizzard think anybody would WANT to do that? Not only that, but due to the mechanics of the digsite spawns, it actually becomes
harder
to get certain items past level 450.
The basic concepts behind archaeology are good. But the RNG factor in this is so massive, a lot of the time, it's just a frustrating waste, rather than the 'fun' profession that was meant to be used to take up our spare time.
评论来自
pudsley
Finally, I have Zin'Rokh!
433 Troll solves spread over two characters, (levelled my Pally 80-84.5 on digging alone).
Finally at 01:37 on Christmas Day (nice touch) it popped up in my Pally's journal, a "Skull Shaped Planter" preceded it, spent a further hour farming to get it solved (daren't log off in case it vanished from the journal as some have reported).
I wasn't at a troll digsite when I made the discovery, was just solving a couple artifacts before bed and there it was.
I'd love to say stick with it and you will be rewarded but as with all of these things it's possible to never see it (though pretty unlikely), there were times when I wanted to give up but I figured I'd keep at it until my Pally hit 85.
The removal of Vash'Jir digsites is a blessing, it might be small but IMO the Twilight Highlands digsites are easily cleared and don't hinder progress all that much so no need to worry about unlocking high end dig sites.
Very best of luck to everyone still looking for this baby, hope you get it without having to invest as much time as I did :)
评论来自
739693
According to a game master its possible to unlock the swort at clvl 80.
The gamemaster did not answer me if my chances increase at clvl 85 or 525 archeology as opossed to clvl 80 and 450 archaeology.
评论来自
bubis5050
I get too much *!@#ing RNG from playing my god damn ret pally. This sword can kiss my ass i'll get the Hellscream's Reach Sword instead.
评论来自
Astee
158 times solved after 450 skill, over 1670 fossils atm and yes I have the mount & pet, gl all
评论来自
Nektulos
From what I am getting you have a chance to get it a little bit after getting 525 if you do not its usually after solve 140+ and if not then its just all bad.
302 troll solves
I have the every artifact from Night Elfs including the doll, everything from dwarfs including the staff & both the fossil items. I hit 525 on the 10th and have been doing archeology ever since.
Most of the time I just do archeology & raid I do not do heroics or pvp.
Still no sword.
评论来自
15084
Over 100 solves. Still no sword. I think i am going to start solving in my Unholy spec instead of my blood spec, superstitious maybe, but at this point I need something to keep me going. Good Luck (and that is exactly what you need) to everyone trying for this.
评论来自
198400
I've been farming this forever. Used over 1700 troll frags and 40ish troll tablets and still no luck. Now leveling my warrior while farming troll frag. Gonna save up 5-8k troll frags and turn it all in and test my luck out.
评论来自
gakio12
I have an idea, what if ilvl 359 rares won't show up to be solved if you have other rares already waiting to be solved? I just thought of this, so I am not going to solve any troll artifacts until I solve my two other rares. Any comments on this?
评论来自
Valyndyral
Colloquially known as Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Lives.
评论来自
Vykos
Just keep trying. I read somewhere that "The Undroppable Force" as i renamed it, has something like 0.4% to pops up. So no numbers can tell you precisely or just nearly when you're going to pop this beauty. You want this? Work on it while queuing for some hero. That's what i do to soften the frustrating farm.
评论来自
Xits
Just used leveled Arch to 450 without using any Troll fragments. That was about 1200 fragments, and 30 tablets. Used them all, and no luck on the sword.
Forget about this sword. The chance of getting it is very low, and it takes days to level Arch, then more days to get enough Troll sites after you're maxed. At that point, you're earning nothing but a lot of wasted time. The sword will be replaced within 6 months anyway.
评论来自
Eluamous
I'm at 161 troll solves (tablets used for every solve I can) across 2 characters and no sword yet. This really is the destroyer of hope...
评论来自
gomjabar
Anyone having this drop within say 200 solves that is a class that cant use the sword, ie mage?
评论来自
655710
if someone posts a picture of a gnome dual wielding Zin'rohk and Jin'rohk i will give you a cookie :)
评论来自
745908
just got zinrokh like finally. saved up 1500 fragments on my warrior initially and burned them at 450 skill. nothing
leveled my pally to 85 with purely archaelogy hit 525 with dwarf/fossil/ne before turning in my 2900 troll fragments and 62 tablets. almost gave up till i finally saw it with 200 fragments left. maybe santa does exist after all! to all those out there still trying for it. dont lose hope and keep trying. its awesomeee. merry christmas people!
评论来自
745960
Proof you can get it before 85 ;)
http://img228.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot122610210542.jpg/
评论来自
517681
Hey,guys i am still farming this baby and i thought i should give you just a little bit of information and tips since there isn't rly much more that i can add after all these comments b4 mine.
Ok so if you plan on going for this and you haven't allrdy got archeology don't get it on a character thats not a dwarf.If you have a lvl 80 dwarf or a lvl 85 alt or smtn start the proffesion on him since because of the racial "Explorer" the dwarfs have after 375 skill its like this.
The minimum you can get per survey(dig) is 3.
The medium is 5 and the biggest is 7 so its quite a good deal to be doing this as a dwarf etleast thats what i am doing and i hope i get it after i solve all my frags.
And the second thing i would like to add that if you rly want this sword than you would need to put some gold in and get all of the troll tablets from the AH or buy them from your friends cause you will HAVE TO USE A TROLL TABLET ON EACH SOLVE ! If you want this sword this has to be your law or smtn :D hope this helps to the hunters that are going after this and remember don't be sad or angry if you don't get it when you want to its rly all about being lucky.
Best of luck with the farm.
评论来自
Prim4lfury
Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of Hopes
评论来自
sm0pso
Well I guess it all is about to getting very lucky, got mine today:
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/nordrassil/friman/simple
Good luck hunting.
/Friman
评论来自
618815
When you finally get this item, you should stand on the highest platform on your home city and yell: "I have become death, the destroyer of worlds!"
Then when the next patch comes cry as it gets replaced by a new epic.
评论来自
438538
181 troll solves atm..no weapon.
I got the dwarf staff though..and I have no use for it as I have no caster alt. Go figure :/
评论来自
gurumed
it should be named TLZR - Time Lost Zin'Rokh.....
something like the TLPD - Time Lost Protodrake
评论来自
438338
Dwarf: 80
Troll: 133
No Zin'Rokh but just got Staff of Sorcerer-Thane Thaurissan. -_-
评论来自
Overpower
I've been at it for 3 days straight now, found raptor mount along with all the lame pets and some nic-nacs. Its so good and obviously worth the Trade chat bragging rights. I'm rolling up on 80 finished grays since 525 and about to blow my brains out, why the heck is it so rare. GAH
评论来自
BaneFalcon
I leveled Archaeology from 1 to 450 without solving a single Troll piece, using just Eastern Kingdoms (and hitting all of the Stranglethorn places for the multiple troll sites there). By the time I hit 450, I was sitting on just over 1200 troll parts and 24 tablets. I got my weapon 31 solves in, with 400-ish fragments remaining, and using the last 3 tablets I had.
评论来自
Rtucci
Guys there is no secret to getting it, it's just pure RNG. Like I said in a previous post (which has some tips on how to get around faster btw), I've been at it for over a week with nothing to show for it...a warrior in my guild decides he wants to try for it....gets it on his second solve after he hits 450...
Did I want to go sit in a corner and cry? Hell yes. But you have to understand the way it works, no matter how insanely stupid it is rofl.
I'm not gonna say don't give up because quite frankly I'm about ready to (I promised myself I wouldn't at the start and was REALLY determined) and I know how painful and boring this grind can be. I was one of the most geared warrs on my server and most geared in my guild, now I'm behind because I've done nothing but this for a week lol. Just think, I could be in full pvp gear with the Tol'Barad Revered 2h and be pwning but yeah...
Anyways, I may end up spending the 10k gold on my 80 dwarf rogue for flight training and level to 450 and save all my frags til then....but that's it, if I don't get it then more than likely I'm done. The only thing that kept me going this long is the fact that as a warrior, Colossus Smashing someones face in inside of a throwdown with mastery swings proccing and recklessness up would make this all worth it.
To everyone else, GL.
评论来自
superstorm123
I just want to make sure, this sword IS still possible to get even when at 525 right?
I unfortunately cannot bring myself to do ANYTHING else in this game until i get this sword, lol
edit - and whoever thought to put a dig site in Grim Batol with a crazy amount of 85 mobs is a bit wrong in the head
评论来自
444765
For those that have already gone through 1000+ fragments and are beginning to feel like this is impossible, here is a little probability information to either give you hope or convince you to stop now.
Assumption #1: you must be at least skill level 450 to have a chance for it to proc
Assumption #2: drop rate is probably 1 or 2%, to take the pessimistic approach I will guess 1%
Assumption #3: it takes between 30 and 35 fragments to solve troll projects so we will guess an average of 33
Assumption #4: you will likely have a bunch of troll tablets which basically count as 12 fragments each to make things easier
To find the probability of getting it you take 1 - P(event never occurs) = % chance. So if looking at your chance in two tries it would be:
1 - P(.99 x .99) = 0.0199 (about 2%)
So to get up to a probability of about 50% (a coin flip) you would need to solve about 69 troll projects
1-P(.99^69) = .5002 (about 50%)
If you want to get up to 90% chance you would need to solve about 230 troll projects
1-P(.99^230) = .9009 (about 90%)
Results:
1% chance = 1 troll project solved = ~33 fragments
50% chance = 69 troll projects solved = ~2,277 fragments
75% chance = 138 troll project solved = ~4,554 fragments
90% chance = 230 troll projects solved = ~7,590 fragments
99% chance = 460 troll projects solved = ~15,180 fragments
Keep in mind it won't really take that many because you should be using troll tablets which gives you 12 fragments each but for a realistic chance (other then just hoping you are really lucky) you would probably be looking at around 4500 fragments.
If you don't want to put in that much time I would recommend quitting now and getting the PvP weapon or raid drop. Good luck to all, I will follow-up with how many it took me once I get it, I am up to 63 post lvl450 troll solves with no luck so far =(
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***EDIT***12-27-2010 I GOT MY ZIN'ROKH TODAY!
I don't know if it is complete superstition or not but I heard some people had amazing luck getting Zin'Rokh when solving at the temple in the middle of ZG. To cover all my superstitious bases I figured I would go ahead and give it a try. Probably completely unrelated but I got it on my 3rd try when standing in the middle of the temple (with the moat around it facing North haha).
End result of my personal experience:
Level: 85
Archeology: 525
Troll projects completed post 450: 74
So essentially based on the probability listed above I got mine just after getting to a 50% coin flip chance. Good luck to everyone going for it!
评论来自
Vykos
This must be a joke from blizzard to make the new best demotivational poster around. <.<
Btw I'm still trying. 72 solves and nothing, but i did the last 10, 1 by 1. Decided now to gather at least 1500 before retrying. Never lose hope. I'll keep trying till I find the best designed sword in game.
评论来自
747040
I was sitting at 445/525 Archeology with about 600 troll fragments and 10 tablets and before I began solving for the weapon I went to Zul'Gurub and sat directly in the middle of the main temple, and on my FIRST solve to 450/525 I got Zin'rokh as my next solve. Pure luck? Or did a little bit of voodoo and lore magic do me some good.
评论来自
444765
This is good math, but I'm not sure if it's correct. Could you clarify for those who don't understand? :(
I thought every time you solve an artifact, it's always 1%, whether its the 1st time for the 1000th time?
And if there's a 99% chance after 230 solves, how do you explain people who have done 300-400 solves and still don't have it?
Not trying to be rude. I just want to understand it.
If looking at one individual solve yes it is 1%. However, when looking at the probability over time with X number of solves it becomes a mathematical question based on our guess at the drop rate (1%). The other thing to point out, you incorrectly quoted 99% chance as being 230 solves when in truth you would need 460 solves (over 15k fragments) for the 99% chance.
Also keep in mind if you have the worst luck ever you always have the possibility of winning the lottery by NEVER getting it because even after 460 projects solved there is a 1% chance you won't get it. Essentially you have the same chance to not get it from 460 solves (1%) as you do of getting it on your first solve when you reach skill 450 (1%).
评论来自
Nektulos
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh141/Lenur187/ZinRokh.jpg
Proof of 367 combines & no sword.
评论来自
Shuned
Farmed for 3 DAYS... Dedicated 14- 15~ hours, usually from the time i woke up.. 8 AM~ to times at 1 or 2 am at night..
I reached 437, with about 1100 troll frags, and 40 something tablets.
No sword... But i did not give up!
I stayed at it, for a few more days..still no sword, maybe reaching 4 or 5 solves a day. I got tired of the limited troll sites, so what did i do? I decided to start my archaeology over, in desperation.
I started over, tons of more troll so it was a breeze.
This time around I saved up around 1500 tablets doing my same no lifer schedule. Hit 450 the sunday after christmas. Bam, the zin'rokh was the 7th solve in the book.
Countless hours of my life wasted for an item that I will probably replace.
But you know what?
I worked for it, and i worked hard. harder than ANY epic ive ever had in Wrath of the litchking. And to be honest, it felt great.
Would i do it over again?
%^&* NO.
评论来自
Erignamatic
A Hotfix placed in December 27th has officially taken Vashj'ir out of a 450-525 Archaeologist's rotation.
"Vashj'ir dig sites no longer unlock for players. They felt too punishing without additional benefits compared to low-level sites, and were much more difficult to obtain artifacts in due to the way Vashj'ir navigation works."
Say it with me friends: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
评论来自
438538
finally got it after about 210 troll solves. My best advice to you guys is, keep trying...cuz when you saw the weapon pop up in arch..you'll get sooooo happy :D.
Then I go to twilight highlands to dig up one site...everything turns red and I go "what's going on". I see deathwing infront of me and he kills me.
I guess he was farming for Zin'rokh too.
评论来自
254037
9 more days of farming, then I'm gonna solve them all
评论来自
litava
154 troll solved
64 dwarf solved.
I found the staff in orgrimmar while whining in gchat about how I reached 154 troll solved with no sword. What the hell blizzard, I don't even want the staff.
Afterwards I went into the bathroom and looked in the mirror with a red slap-mark across my face with the print of a RiNG that said "Blizzard Entertainment"
评论来自
213001
Got this baby yesterday!
Here's how I did it:
Done all archaeologying only in Eastern Kingdoms. Surveyed skill lvls 1-100 without any solves. After 100 I started solving all Night elf and Fossil stuff. I used Key stones whenever the project needed them to save in total fragment consumption. When I was at skill lvl 375, I had collected ~2000 troll fragments (with 65 troll key stones) and I also had about 600 dwarf, 400 fossil and 150 night elf ones (and alot of their respective key stones).
So I started leveling to 450 with Fossil/NE stuff, and after skill 450 I started solving all Dwarf stuff. I had enough materials to bring me to 525 before using any Troll fragments. Then started mass solving trolls, and using Keystones every time a project needed them.
At about 300 Troll fragments down from 2000, had almost lost hope with all the common stuff popping after each other, I finally discovered the Zin'Rokh project. So yes it is that rare.
I suggest collecting at least 2000, better yet 3000 troll fragments before going all out solving madness :)
GL all :)
Varakk, Earthen Ring EU
评论来自
524136
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Hopes
评论来自
86067
Let's see, first spending about week on this with DK, at 160 researches atm.... Then leveled shaman with Archeology, used them when at 1.6k, nothing. Now leveled rogue and used fragments when around 2.4k (and god knows how many tablets)... Nothing.... If you got similiar luck to me, just give up.
评论来自
748238
Got it after 40-50 troll solved.
I'm lucky :)
评论来自
631700
Been farming this for what seems like forever, worst part is that I actually got the dwarf staff where as I do not even have any caster classes...
http://img513.imageshack.us/i/wowscrnshot122810235551.jpg/
As you can see in the screenshot I have only solved 48 dwarf fragments and have the staff where as I have completed 114 troll projects but still nothing :(
RNG, why do you hate me so much!
评论来自
Meisimba
Ehm just to tell you guys: It doesn't matter where you solve xD and It didnt bring me any luck to solve in ZG.
I collected 3200 fragments and around 100 tables. So i solved around 4300 fragments. I got around 120 relics. Got nothing.
It is just pure luck.... some people might get it after 3 solves someone might never be able to get him......
Lets face it: this is only a profession for luckers!
Ps: I don't know the command to display all my solves so i cant provide a screenshot :)
评论来自
748374
tonight was my night :)
after a total of 3 (!) troll solves zin'rokh popped up...
im going to sleep very well now :)
评论来自
182915
Popped up 40 mins ago. After 146 troll solves on my mage. And 80 solves on my warrior. So if anyone was in doubt, you can get it on a character that cannot use 2h-swords. :) 80-100 hours well spent! :)
评论来自
748488
sigh.... havent seen sword.. havent seen staff either yet
Dwarf:189
Troll: 230
To those who got it AFTER 525, did you solve your troll artifacts after you got enough for 1, or did you save up fragments again then use them?
评论来自
198400
Finally got it on my warrior! Farmed up 2700 troll frags and 70 troll tablets, got it with 684 frags left. Don't give up guys!
评论来自
304943
I'm about to give up.
525 Archaeology on two characters. A total of 255 combined Troll Artifacts. (200+55).
评论来自
305255
You
can't
can runeforge this item. The item level had nothing to do with being unable to runeforge the
Bloodied Arcanite Reaper
or any other heirloom weapon you attempt to runeforge.
Runeforging does
not
have ilvl requirements. The problem lies with the BoA part of the item which blizzard has finally fixed.
Runeforging causes the weapon to become soulbound. Actions that would soulbind a BoA item are now ignored and places a "requires runeforging" requirement on the item when given to another toon, as profilerv2 said. This operates much like dropping enchanting when you have enchanted rings or dropping blacksmithing with the sockets added to your gloves/bracers.
However a BoA item is not allowed to become soulbound for an obvious reason, I trust.
Don't believe me? Grab a low ilvl white weapon off a vendor and runeforge it.
Blacksmith Hammer
should be easy to locate and has an ilvl of 1 just like a heirloom.
Rogue poisons work the same as runeforging. No ilvl requirements but BoA items are off-limits.
It would seem that with 4.0 you can now indeed runeforge BoA weapons.This was a change I was unaware of. I've fixed my post now. Rkane post is still very wrong about the item level having been the problem in the past. I asked a GM several months back why I could not runeforge my
Bloodied Arcanite Reaper
and the answer was "runeforging causes the item to become soulbound which is not allowed on a Bind to Account item." I thought this was still the case and it isn't any longer. About damn time Blizzard fixed that. Only took them an entire expansion to get it done.
评论来自
748747
I got this weapon about two weeks ago. Started solving troll artifacts after i dinged 525 arch. About 15 projects later i got this project. It pwns in PvE and PvP! Screen incoming.
评论来自
748757
This is the most annoying thnig Blizz. ever made. Even fishing is more exciting cuz it is not such a random. I am farming that stupid sword for like 5 days now. Made 109 solves in troll only and still no drop. Yesterday i made 22 solves, and you need whole day to make so many and tbh it is not much but still need to sacrfice all day to farm parts for it.;( Last day today if it will not drop i will delete this stupid profession for good.
评论来自
Zitheg
I finally got this bad boy. Hours and hours of archaeology and a bit of luck caused it to finally pop into my Arch book. I was damn excited. Runeforged it, turned that Crit into mastery, and now have a great tanking weapon until I can get Magmaw to drop his weapon. So nice, so big.
It felt like it came quickly though, to be honest. I had done probably only 30 some troll solves and had only been 525 for a while.
Keep at it, everyone. This was well worth it.
评论来自
696429
It is basically like the Mysterious Egg before patch 4.0.3
On my Death Knight I got the Reins of the Green Proto-Drake in just one try.
On my Mage, it took all of Wotlk, in fact, a week before 4.0.3 came out, for this dumb mount to drop!
I'm guessing this sword is a lot like the drop rating on this mount, it takes sheer luck for it to drop.
Drake
Egg
(now modified from patch 4.0.3, it now opens every 3 days instead of 7, and drops the Drake a lot more often I hear)
评论来自
DarthVolga
I got my Zin'Rokh two days ago. I saved up 1500 fragments and had 40 tablets, I burned through them all at 450 and didn't get it. I gave up the grind for a few days after that, but my desire for such a digital-pimp sword kept me going. One night on my last solve I crossed my fingers and didn't get it, the next solve was it and I was happy as all hell.
Archaeology is such a damn grind, I wouldn't suggest grinding for it because the outcome can come out to just tons of wasted time. I was beginning to lose all hope and really I thought I just got very fortunate.
评论来自
748488
Just reached 250 solves for troll.. no sword =/
To those who got it after 525, did you solve an artifact as soon as you got enough fragments, or did you save up all fragments, and solve all at once?
评论来自
elitebmo
just hit 55 solves and im starting to burn out already. feels like ive been doing htis for weeks now.
评论来自
profilerv2
You CAN runeforge this item. It has been confirmed many times that it is possible.
Since runeforge enchants require runeforging to function, any non-deathknight character who equips the item will see the enchant in red, with "requires runforging" on it.
评论来自
748757
129 solved ... 20 solved from all day about 500 troll parts. you need to like whole day to collect so many ;( and still F... nothing
评论来自
176328
Does anyone know the % chance of getting this?
I'm currently at 109 solves with no sword, so my guess is in the .5%-1% range.
评论来自
749596
243 troll solves post-450 archaeology between 2 characters, no luck. On second character, had 2 rares in archaeology tab (dwarf and night elf), while standing at the top of the temple in ZG, no luck with any of that, just seems to be pure RNG.
评论来自
748757
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of time :((
评论来自
100822
3,004 fragments
85 tablets
120 solves
No sword.
Frustration level of over 9,000.
评论来自
745845
Finally got mine after farming it since 3 days after Cataclysm launched, at least 4 hours every day I was online. Finally saw the pattern and shat myself. Totally worth the grind, keep it up, cuz nothing else is better than having an epic weapon in a world full of blues..
评论来自
Gatstein
After 5200 fragments solved I'm very close to giving up and shelfing WoW for another year.
I have spent every free moment I've had for the past two weeks on this and nothing of use or value has presented itself.
Don't try to go for it if you want to keep your sanity is all I say.
评论来自
Ripez
I got about 110 solves above 450 skill from trolls on my main and just saved 2400 frags and 70 tablets on alt and no sword. Grrr grrr mhmhmhm QQ
评论来自
trulex
cancelled my subscription after 300+ solved on main and 150 on alt.
评论来自
Vorago
2 days, 1500 troll frags, 38 tablets = no sword.
FML
评论来自
Brightstar
Ok, round 2 of going for Zinny...got my mage, leveled her as I went, grabbed mostly EK, solved NO Troll projects at all, got to 375 quick as I could to get max frags per dig.
Pushed to 450 with Fossil, NE and saved some Dwarf (just in case staff), 1273 Troll Frags. Got to 450....flew to ZG, sat on Altar, used Pygmy Oil to turn into a lovely, sexy Voodoo Gnome....and here we go....
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!Got Zinny on my 5th freaking Troll solve...now granted I got nothing after over 900 frags used on my Paladin, so I think that evens out :D
/relieved.
Now to save the 1k frags I still have for upcoming patches where they might give us more Troll rares....
Good luck guys! I don't know if the ZG altar solving thing is a coincidence, but I can't help but wonder!
评论来自
751166
Clearly a hunter weapon.
评论来自
751235
3 characters to 525 saving troll fragments all the way to 1500. Nothing but a bags full of grays and &*!@ty ass pets and mounts. Bitter and pissed is an understatement.
评论来自
747161
I've been exclusively working on this for 3 days now, amassed a total of about 2000 fragments plus tablets and still no sword.
We're all pissed at how difficult this is to acquire but this is part of the attraction of wanting to own this sword.
I'll carry on grinding until I get it, gotta happen at some point, right?
评论来自
Ornamental
I just got mine after about 4 days of leveling to 450 archaeology, and straight after I got my project for the fossil raptor mount. I guess I'm just really lucky, I've heard people sink weeks into this.
评论来自
749596
Archaeology has so much RNG to it atm. I'd suggest a few things to Blizzard to help fix that, for the many cases where people put in an enormous amount of time, but it's still just a horridly low droprate.
First of all, they really need to have weighted probability. Completing multiple artifacts of a certain race really should slightly increase the percentage chance of getting rares from that race that you haven't discovered yet, scaling a tiny bit each time you complete a new artifact.
Secondly, fossil doesn't have any 359 items associated with it. More items could eventually be added in a future patch, or there's a couple other things that could be done.
From the standpoint of actual archaeology, it would make sense to be able to pick which races you want digsites to appear for. Maybe have it cost a a bunch of fragments to specialize in one or something, so it isn't a decision to be made lightly.
The other alternative is to allow 8 digsites per continent, or to let players trade fragments of one race for those of another at a reduced rate, at some sort of black market artifact exchange.
Oh, and Twilight Highlands is just ridiculous, that Grim Batol digsite needs to go, or you need to be able to get that squad of NPCs again after finishing the quest.
评论来自
Mecha
Farmed about 1400 fragments + 40 tablets on my main. Then levelled my alt from 80-85 on archaeology, saving up 2670 fragments and 81 tablets.
Went through an effective total of just over 5,000 fragments between both characters, tablets included, and still no sword. This is just plain out rough.
评论来自
Janiy
Question: Because this weapon is unique, does have the original
http://www.cuckhead.com/item=19854#
. in your inventory stop you from 'discovering' the new one? I still have the original in my bags and have gone through a huge number of troll artifacts without getting it so that's why I'm thinking it hasn't dropped, anyone know?
评论来自
751576
Based on the assumptions here I made a little tool to calculate the chance getting Zin'rokh as well as the number of troll tablets needed based on the number of fragments.
http://zinrokh.de
Oh, by the way I'm close to 100 troll artefacts solved and no Zin'Rokh...
评论来自
667097
ok guys ive been at this for like 9 days now atleast 4 hours a day archaeology but atleast 3 days ive been slacking and afking at digs. basiclly i saved up fragments on my dk starting at 300 and had about 500 when i hit 450
got nothing decided ok its rare usually im lucky but maybe not today gathered 2k more and like 45 tablets NOTHING
i decided u know what *!@# this its wasting my dks time i whent to my paladin (lvl 80) and gathered 1563 fragments and 25 troll tablets i did run out while solving anyways got the oil and when to the tower in the middle of zg guess what
...NOTHING then i started getting alot of digs on my paladin in twilight highlands so decided to go back to my dk spent another 2 days farming and saving up ended up with 800 fossil 750 troll and like 850 dwarf
i got the staff after my 3rd dwarf solve and nothing from the troll solve. anyways thats my story... heres my question
i got the staff today did that in anyway shape or form effect my chances of getting zinrokh or my rng or w/e like say im at 146 troll solves does it reset or something because i got the staff or are my chances of seeing zinrokh still the same and is the staff or are they on completly different rngs also do the staff and zinrokh share a 1% drop chance? also if i wouldve maybe solved the troll fragments before dwarf would i have gotten zinrokh instead of the staff?, if any of you want to know when/were i got the staff it was in a dwarf dig still active and didnt use any tablets. well thats my post i still havnt lost my sanity but am a bit dissapointed know because i dont have any casters above 45 anyway so the staff is a waste thanks in advance. sorry for my poor english its like 4 am and im typing half asleep dont have the strength for spell check hope you guys can read it anyway lol
-Pappymason
评论来自
Shinzah
217 solved and still nothing .... borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrring :s
评论来自
750248
After the 5 day grind, 12 hours a day lost my mind and anything else i can on my pally, then the 2 days grind of leveling another toons Arch to 450 saving up 1300 troll fragments made everything i could and at the end of it all the sword ques with me being 14 fragments short... 5 days ill never get back but well worth it for the 3 toons ill be useing this with at 85. GOOD LUCK to everyone on the mindless grind to get it. (o and made all the items in ZG where hakkar once stood, dont know if it makes a diff but it did for me) Happy new year to me.
评论来自
528889
So. I leveled my DK to 525. I didn't think much about the Vashjir and reduction of the Trolls site spawn rate when doing it. So I leveled my Warrior to 447. Stopped just shy of it, and collected around 1730 troll fragments and 80 Tablets.
No Sword. I had 38 Tablets left at the end of it. I feel so cheated. :(
评论来自
Yugine
Zin'Rokh , Destroyer of My Sanity
评论来自
524067
You gotta pay the troll toll
评论来自
752549
31 December 5:00pm got it as i decided to start solving 666 artifacts(not kidding) just near grom'gol. It was a very weird night as troll camps keep spawning on and on i gathered about 340 in less than 3 hrs. I have completed 124 artifacts after 450 skill of archaelogy. Good luck to all of and don't give up all you need is patience and time. Thanks a lot for the posts in here gave me courage to go on :D.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ravencrest/vorthmar/simple
评论来自
752619
Four or five days of skilling and troll fragments farming. I had 1405 fragments before i started solving. Zin'rokh was my 30th troll solve, so i used about half of my fragments ; D
评论来自
752720
aff been doing archeology at 525 for like 3/4 days, done LOTS of troll artifacts and this damn sword doesnt roll >.<
评论来自
fergotten123
WHY BLIZZARD? WHY?
评论来自
733961
Im starting to freak out here, and who wouldnt after so many solves, many theories are comming to my mind so i scribed this ticket:
Since ive passed my 350 troll solve and still no Zin'Rokh i understand that i may just be unlucky but when i was solving troll arties there was a screen glitch and i saw more than one keystone slot appear but it dissappeard in second, since trolls dont have more than 1 key slot in their commons, i tought it was a bug and since you cannot aquire a rare project second time once you solved it, maybe the game thinks i have already solved the project which i didnt, and wont let me get Zin as project.
What do you guys think ?
评论来自
Enzymexx
Just solved my 240 project troll, (all with 525skill) 13 days farming, 3-4h per day... and no sword, im so sad ;(
评论来自
715532
122 troll solved, over 300 solved overall and still no zinrokh :<
zin'rokh, keeper of virginity :3
评论来自
Laurabelle
I finally got this a day or two ago. It appears to be totally random. You could get it your first try (assuming 450+ skill) or never get it even after hundreds of tries.
So.. good luck!
评论来自
343757
Id gladly replace and get rid of both my ZG mounts for this :(
评论来自
748395
Just hit solve 100, about to join the unlucky club of defying probability
评论来自
754250
Okay, so i've been farming troll fragments for 3 weeks or so now, since I found out about this sword. I stayed at 375 archaeology skill to farm the fragments, and ended up with 4061 fragments and 118 troll tablets so I figured it was worth a shot at this point!
I leveled up with all of the fossil's I got along the way, headed to ZG, stood at the altar with my pygmy oil and started solving my troll artifacts, praying to god that this sword will pop up...
169 troll artifacts completed with no Zin'rokh. :( Won't give up here though! Someday this sword will be mine!
Good to luck to the rest of you farming, just thought i'd share my experience. <3
评论来自
754404
OMG OMG OMG.......just got it..... (Vipersminion Elune 85 Warrior)... just need a few more pieces...and it will be in my hand....
评论来自
754404
Only 39 Solves.....
评论来自
711282
I feel extremely lucky. At the suggestion of my partner I saved all of my troll fragments until 450 skill to try and get this for my goblin deathknight. After hitting 450 I was excited to get rid of all of those fragments. A few solves later I had my Zin'rokh. Which i'm told is one of the rarest completely random chance to get items in wow. I was able to snag it spending less than 500 fragments. Which made me feel silly about all those extra fragments :) but hey there is always achievements.
Good luck to you all! It certainly is a beauty, though I do wish they would shrink it's size on Goblins, it drags through the ground which is kinda ugh.
评论来自
755385
Just got this bad boy after 5 days of concecutive archaeology farming.
Strategy that i used was simple (many people here seems to use it aswell.) i saved all troll fragments up to 450.
After mass solving them all and seeing 85 troll commons and no luck on the sword i allmost gave up. BUT! my heart told me to go on and on the next project i found an nice sword called: Zin'Rokh destroyer of worlds. ! so everyone just keep on solving them, u will get it!
im posting a picture of me with the sword.
评论来自
528889
I'm happy. I just procced my Zinrokh after doing 2 characters to 525, burning 1700 fragments at once, and farming for another 90 solves on my main. No less, procced on my Bday. Good luck to all of you. :)
评论来自
715532
just got it as my 137th troll solve!
there is a god! :D
评论来自
Kankipappa
I'm at 170 troll solves (plus additional 77 solves on alt). I was already getting pissed off because of the "get 10 dwarf digsites in a row per 1 troll digsite".
Well, I decided to solve the few nelf fragments along the way I got from duskwood (~120) and guess what! The nelf trinket popped up. Of course I don't have a character what could use it...
Over 100 dwarf solves and I had only 66 nelf solves, so if there is a god, he must just simply hate me. Guess I just have to continue the agony grind.
评论来自
Dethevn
284 Troll solves 214 Dwarf solves and I have yet to see zin'rokh, the staff, or the night elf trinket (from the occasional NE pops in EK).
评论来自
736577
Death Knights especially: Do yourself a favor and level arch in Eastern Kingdoms. We have Death Gate to the north, and set your Hearth to Orgrimmar... from there you can take the portal to the Blasted Lands in the south, or to Twilight Highlands in the middle. Eastern Kingdoms has more troll artifacts.
评论来自
Stukas
Guys, I got this weapon and I can't use it cause I am a mage. I have been farming for a week now for the mage staff, I mean the dwarf fragments but for these to re-spawn I had to clear troll sites too. Imo Blizzard is @#$%ing with us. This is outrageous and is the same thing when you go to Argaloth and the tier 11 pants drop and it isn't any mage in the raid groups. So what we can do? I hope someone from Blizzard see this post and do something cause we pay subscription every month and we don't want to be screwed on our time and money.
评论来自
Vykos
Is it just me or after 375 of arche skill you won't get 5 frags anymore but only 3/4 or 6? I'm 525 since december 21st and any survey gives me 3, 4 or 6 frags, never 5. Is it a bug or is It working as intended?
Edit: grammar corrections.
评论来自
Nebell
452 skill, 1400 fragments, 50 Tablets and nothing. Fortunately, I didn't expect much either, I just wanted to level Archaeology up and maybe get a little bonus.
Is it worth it? Depends if you have enough free time (a lot of free time, you might never get it). On the other side, pvp 2 hander is extremely easy to achieve.
评论来自
Garo
Well, I jus hit 525 Archaeology, and I had saved all my 792troll aritfacts from around lvl110 or so - and no sword - jus greys :P I still have about 19keystones.
评论来自
756785
目前我还在努力。。。争取85前搞到它!
I am working on it right now........trying to get it before LV85!
评论来自
754544
http://mysite.ncnetwork.net/res89pejl/troll.jpg
Nothing worthy of mention to show for it.
评论来自
kirus
Can this item be obtained more than once per character?
I got it but since i am farming for the other rares i have collected quite a few trolltablets that are to no use for me now and i am thinking if i could find it again if i send mine to a twink.
评论来自
oregonmetal
Runeforging this weapon and sending to a non-DK alt will simply result in the chant disappearing.
Tested 1/5/11
评论来自
756982
I have so far farmed for over two weeks for this weapon, I am on 150 troll solves, three of my friends have gotten it on far less solves and though I am not giving up this is starting to drive me crazy. It dosen't help that after you max out arch your troll spawns go to hardly none. I will continue trying for this and grats to all that have gotten it, I just hope I get mine soon or I will end up going insane.
评论来自
Kankipappa
Damn this. Now I also got the dwarf staff and as a warrior I don't really care about the trinket or staff at all... But they seem to be a lot easier to get than this sword, at least in my case. :(
131 dwarf and 192 troll solves so far.
评论来自
Solarscar
Turn this sword back downside-up-down... that's how it was suppose to be..
regret deleting mine in lvl 60...
评论来自
697018
I highly recommend to level your archaeology on an alt, ( e.g. a lvl 80 one so you will get some exp from the fragment farming ) and level it to 375 and stop then to farm all the troll frags you need. It is the skill level that you will get 3, 4 or 6 frags per find, + you won't get the cataclysm dig sites. It's very useful to me :)
评论来自
Simsu
7kish frags, 240ish solves, and 0 swords. Still working on it, not as hard as before, because at this point I've sunk so much time into it I can't just give up.
On a side note I wasn't someone who stopped leveling up pre 450 to avoid the cata dig zones, because I would have been really bummed to have collected 5k frags and only needed 200 (like the lucky few), but even with the vash sites removed just having the Twilight Highlands ones are really annoying.
Edit: Oh.. Alliance can use the zeppelin between UC and STV for a quick trip north and south in EK. Just land on top of it and ride it between the locals.
评论来自
146898
Does anyone know the exact chance this will show up as an archaeology assignment? This information would be really helpful because I don't know if I want to start saving for my PvP sword, or start farming archaeology for this.
评论来自
Dethevn
A lot of people on forums are speculating that this weapon is unobtainable past 200+ solves. If anyone here can attest they got this with a screenshot of the macro text, would help a lot...
评论来自
695920
So, I spent three days straight farming this. Unlike most people, I didn't start at 450, or save up my fragments, because when I started Archaeology was back in the ye olde days when there were no guides or anything to point me in the right directions.
I spent twelve hours the first day, and then stayed up for 36 hours straight. I took breaks to eat, drink and do some work. After the third day, I gave up and decided to go back to doing dailies/randoms and such and do archaeology on the side again because it wasn't worth it.
Well, wouldn't you know it. I got enough fragments from one of the troll off-sites in Northrend to make something, so I shrugged and hit it, and the sword popped up.
The moral of this story? The RNG is a cruel and unforgiving son of a ^&*!@.
评论来自
741598
Leveled Arch to 100 without any solves.
Leveled to 450 without any troll solves.
Troll solves take me to 525.
Solve more trolls. No sword still.
Bed.
Gathered up 2 troll solves in the morning.
Flew to Zg.
Made a sacrifce to Hakkar.
Zinrokh pops up after first solve.
Total Troll solves: 32
Screens:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h46/limp2907/WoWScrnShot_010611_113416.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h46/limp2907/WoWScrnShot_010611_113421.jpg
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h46/limp2907/WoWScrnShot_010611_121730.jpg
评论来自
304943
Leveled my third character to 525 Archaeology. Currently at level 84,2.
So, I've got about
321 Completed Troll Artifacts
in total on my three characters.
Starting with my DK now, level 81 and 100ish in Archaeology.
Wish me good luck. :)
评论来自
757481
Got this as fast i skilled 450, had 1500 trolls to solve and got it on my 2nd solve. horray...
评论来自
truefury
What skill were you at in Archeology when you looted this at lvl 75, also how many other artifacts had you discovered prior to getting the Sword?
评论来自
11963
Made a macro to remind me of how unlucky I am:
/run RequestArtifactCompletionHistory(); local c=GetNumArtifactsByRace(8); local a=0; for i=1,c do local t=select(9,GetArtifactInfoByRace(8,i)); a=a+t; end local p=round((1-(.99^a))*100,2); print(p.."% of people that worked as hard as me already got ZR");
(use it twice if it reports a wrong percentage)
Warning -- do not use if you get depressed easily.
评论来自
197450
Zin'rokh is currently randomly bugged, as are several epic archaeology items.
Just received a ticket response from a GM in response to my ticket asking why, after 250 troll solves, had I had zero luck. The response was:
"After an initial investigation, it appears that this is an issue we are aware of and are currently working to resolve as soon as possible. We do appreciate the information, as all reports we receive are added to the information we already have and help us to better find a resolution."
Blah blah blah you can further research it on our forums, signed by Scralzort.
So folks, if you've solved over 150 or so, I'd suggest stopping for now. They weren't forthcoming on the bug but it could possibly effect your character and leave you farming endlessly. If you're having trouble on one toon and just cannot wait, I'd suggest using an alternate character.
P.S. This may include the dwarven staff, as I mentioned it in the ticket and have roughly 150 dwarf solves also.
评论来自
Bluenos3
I was wondering if anyone has unlocked this project whilst they have another epic project open?
I've been farming Troll digsites, 56 troll projects done so far, whilst I've had the Nelf robe still uncompleted. I've now completed the robe and still farming digsites.
I ask incase you can only have one epic project at a time.
Thanks
评论来自
756982
Wait...let me get this straight, i've been farming for over two weeks, am at 162 troll solves and apparently this is all for nothing? Omg...I...I want to die....so much time wasted when I could of been doing something else to get my character better...so many...omg...excuse me i'm going to go and delete my account and never play this game again....
I just learned some new info by the way about the glitch, my friend asked some one who knows of this glitch, they told me that basicly IF the sword procs in your solving but goes away, it will still show up in your solved tab for the rares, but if you didn't get to solve it and don't have the item a GM will give you the sword because of this glitch...so i'm going to go for it and continue my quest...and hope...its all I got left right now.
评论来自
227592
This happend to me yesterday. After weeks of grinding, the sword procs for me. So I started to solve it and got an error. Logged out and deleted my cache and wtf folders, logged back in and it was gone, not in my solves or anything. Have had a ticket open for 2 days now. Wish I had a screenshot, but was not expecting it to bug out.
评论来自
Kawano
With the recent changes to the cap of fragments, I suggest everyone saves their fragments for patch day.
It'll ensure all bugs with the proc are fixed and they may even improve the proc chance since, this is just painful for so many people and they know it.
评论来自
758069
After reading positive and negative comments i started on my warrior with archaeology.
Went up to 450 having used some troll fragments which was kinda stupid, but nonetheless.
Spent these numbers after 450:
800+ troll fragments
26 troll tablets
Did a total of 40 solves on my warrior. With no zinrokh. Some people had spent way more. Instead of spending hours, days or weeks on it i leveled archaeology on my alt (rogue).
I got the following numbers at 450 (this time saved all trolls up):
1200+ troll fragments
20 troll tablets
I went to Zul'Gurub for fun. After the 4th solve i got zinrokh....
So probably as some others already stated, if you level up to 525 using all the saved trolls and you dont have it. Then you wont have it. Try on another char instead.
评论来自
388430
I give up. Just not worth it after 30 days straight of 'digging'.
评论来自
758913
Since PTR is up now, its a very good opportunity to test your chances,with like 4x fragments with 4 available character copys.If some people will get their sword at all 4 copys and some at none at all it will be very good way to prove theory about "not eligible" characters.
PS sorry for my poor english.
评论来自
Yeron
Get a level85 hunter put +2 beastslaying get naked wear that sword run around in SW and it will be the best weapon in the game. :D
评论来自
327123
Warlock wtt this for the staff. Any takers?
Over 400 solves to get this, but still no staff.
What class/spec benefits most from this sword? Might level one just to take advantage.
评论来自
759359
As alot of other I haven't had any luck yet. I just solved my 140th troll common. I waited until 525 before I solved the first one.
They really should add some kind of modifier that increases dropchance. So 0,5% when 0-50 solved, 1% 50-100, 1,5% 100-150 and so on. As it is now there is no reward what so ever in spending time for this since someone solving their first fragments has just as big of a chance as the dude that has 500 solves. Makes it all pretty retarded.
评论来自
Shinzah
240 artifact on my DK
70 on my priest
And still nothing .......
评论来自
ozzy1925
lvl 80 cant get the sword or 85 has more chance?
评论来自
thulas
all you need is archaeology skill 450, lvl doesn't matter
评论来自
759678
So I guess I bugged out too. Solved a common yesterday and saw Zin'rokh pop up, got excited, clicked the first troll tablet slot and it disappeared and became a Fetish Of Hirek; does not show up in my completed rare section. I was at 142 Troll solves after 450 skill. Put in a ticket and got a reply today via in game mail that they appreciate my petition and will "look into it", I have a feeling I won't hear anything else from them. Kind of bummed since I assume I will be unable to get the solve again.
评论来自
MisplacedHead
When is the new fragment cap coming? some people say its 400, some 200. any info on this before i continue doing this on my alt?
评论来自
759953
the cap will be implemented with the new patch.
you can keep collecting till tuesday i think... after the patch you will be able to collect an amount of 200 and you have to solve, to collect new ones till the next patch after this one, where all fragments above 200 will be deletet -.-
but for now, keep collecting
评论来自
Auroron
The sword is currently bugged, as stated above. I ticketed a GM about it, about the procc being bugged, and I got this as a response:
"Our development team is aware of this issue and it will be corrected as soon as possible. We apologise for any inconvenience caused".
So, the sword is bugged.
Don't solve anymore troll projects until a possible hotfix or patch. Save them.
Ticket submitted and answered today (9th of Januray 2011)
评论来自
DaringJedi
8 hours past lvl 450, still nothing. I want to kill every Dwarf in Azeroth for making me dig at all their dang sites, hoping that a troll site will be available afterward only to find yet another Dwarf site to be excavated beforehand.
And I thought getting to lvl 525 would be the hard part...
评论来自
756982
been almost a month, 185 troll solves not even counting how many of the dwarf and fossil i've done....but i'm still truggin....and truggin....never give up guys, never give up.
评论来自
gorybobcat
199 troll artifacts post 450 skill. I could FEEL that the next digsite would proc the sword, I was so sure! Unfortunately, I was 1 fragment short.... night all, let the grind begin again tomorrow....
评论来自
760715
I have declared war on archeology after saving up just about 1400 fragments and still not getting it only made me more determined to get it.
I guess the majority of us here are just normal/unlucky sobs hungering to destroy the world.
but if you really want to destroy worlds and stuff it doesnt matter how long it takes you just keep farming and farming till it drops and if it does you know why you did it.
all hang in there
评论来自
265373
Just made this, needed desperately a break from the grind:
http://archeology.ytmnd.com/
Over 400 solves, 200 on each char, and nothing so far. :D
评论来自
459066
Hi there, Blarb.
I'm sorry for any confusion caused; the answer you received was a misunderstanding due to the name of the item, just as Surnajam suggested.
The newer version (Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds) is very much still in the game and it is obtainable, however it has a
very low chance
of being given as a project.
It's true that we have received reports from a few players stating a) that they've yet to be given the project despite hundreds of successive attempts (which, to be clear, could just be bad luck), and/or b) that the Zin'rokh project is offered and then reverts to something different after logging out and back in.
We haven't yet been able to confirm or deny these reports, and
our developers are still investigating
. I'm afraid I don't have any more information to offer you than that, and all I can recommend at the moment is that you
keep trying
.
Hope that helps clear up any confusion. :)
source ==>
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1503253030?page=2#33
The only way to get this MF baby is to keep trying...
评论来自
NobodyYouKnow
Top seven reasons you'll never get to use Zin'rokh, The destroyer of Worlds, while it's still useful:
One: Your overjoyed when you manage to get enough fragments to complete your project. You click the button... and get the exact same project. Again.
Two: You level your archology from 1-525 without using a single troll fragment. After completing your first or second project, the next project you get is the one where you make this weapon! You have more then enough fragments to make it. However, within 30 seconds of making it the server crashes, a roll back happens, and when you log back on, you don't have the weapon or the project. GMs are unable to restore Zin'rokh, the destroyer of worlds because the rollback also destroyed the logs proving you had had Zin'rokh, the Destroyer of Worlds and the project to make it.
Three: You level your archology from 1-525 without using a single troll fragment. After completing your first or second project, the next project you get is the one where you make this weapon! You have more then enough fragments to make it. However, within 15 seconds of making it your account gets hit by the banhammer. GMs refuse to unban your account.
Four: You manage to make Zin'rokh, the Destroyer of Worlds, but within 30 seconds of doing so someone hacks into your account and places an authenticator on your account, and destroys Zin'rokh, the Destroyer of Worlds. Although you do manage to get your account back, GMs refuse to restore Zin'rokh, the Destroyer of Worlds. To add insult to injury, everyone in your guild and all your friends suddenly gets the project to obtain Zin'rokh, the Destroyer of Worlds, while you never do.
Five: By the time you do manage to obtain Zin'rokh, the Destroyer of Worlds, your warrior, DK, and (ret) paladin have better weapons. No other class can get the full use out of Zin'rokh, the Destroyer of Worlds.
Six: RED! go left! RED! go right! Red! Go left more! Red! No, go right some more! "You can't use that here". Okay, Go back! GREEN! Backup a bit more! Awesome I can dig the artif-GOD DAMNIT COMCAST STOP DISCONNECTING ME!
Seven: Your overjoyed to get quite literally ten troll dig sites in a row in STV. However, the fragments from those sites only give you common projects to do, which gives you vendor trash.
评论来自
747161
If it ever procs for me, the first thing I'm doing is getting a screenshot as proof incase it disappears on me. If it ever procs that is...
评论来自
Zydell
Here's an updated version of the macro that was in here earlier:
/run local a=0 for y=1,GetNumArtifactsByRace(8) do local t=select(9,GetArtifactInfoByRace(8,y)); a=a+t; end print("Troll: " .. a .. " solves, ~"..(a*29) .." fragments ("..floor(1000*(1-(0.995^a)))/10 .. "% chance to have found the sword by now.)");
Notes:
Please note that the macro may bug (give lower solves/percentages) after just solving a troll item. If this is the case, go to the archaeology panel, then the second tab (showing you all your solves done) and then run it again and it will be ok.
Assumptions:
- The chance to find the sword is 0.5% (1% seems too low, as for now its still just a guess, if someone can calculate the estimated chance to find it from the reports in this thread I will adjust it.
- You have not solved troll fragments pre-450.
- You are using troll tablets as you find them; assuming that you will use them in about 50% of the solves where you can use a troll tablet.
Possible adjustments:
- Correcting the macro for solves done before hitting 450: change "local a=0" to "local a=-", please note the minus sign before the number, e.g. you have done 10 solves pre-450, then change it to "local a=-10".
- When you NEVER use troll tablets, change "(a*29)" to "(a*34)".
- When you ALWAYS use troll tablets for every solve, change "(a*29)" to "(a*25)".
So in my case I solved 14 fragments pre-450 and ALWAYS use troll fragments (buy them from AH), so it becomes:
/run local a=-14 for y=1,GetNumArtifactsByRace(8) do local t=select(9,GetArtifactInfoByRace(8,y)); a=a+t; end print("Troll: " .. a .. " solves, ~"..(a*25) .." fragments ("..floor(1000*(1-(0.995^a)))/10 .. "% chance to have found the sword by now.)");
The estimations on average fragments used are calculated from my own data (they are for troll solves only). I have solved around 165 artifacts (and no sword in case you wondered :P)
评论来自
Auroron
So, I read earlier about the two runestone slots briefly appearing when starting a new project. And since normal project only got 1 slot maximum for troll, that means Zin'rokh basicly flashed for a second?
Some people speculated that Zin'rokh bugged out for them, any truth behind that? I just had it happen to me, so just making sure.
~4290 fragments so far
评论来自
wMwl
Zin'rokh, the Destroyer of Lives
评论来自
561032
I know the conventional wisdom is to stay in the EK because there's more zones which contain Troll artifacts, but I'm wondering if anyone has any experience farming Outland and Northend in an attempt to get Zin? Maybe the odds are shortened somewhat since only higher level players can go there. I know it's a long shot, but then again so is this entire endevor.
评论来自
765033
I was lvl 85 with 525 archeaology, and worked for 3 days straight looking for whatever i could find...I found tyrande's favorite doll, then the ring of the boy emperor, and on my fourth day of searching i completed a common troll artifact and when i seen that beautiful sword, I almost had an accident...starting out I gathered only up to 100, then I completed alot of troll and ne artifacts...the archeaology BoA's i would say are 100% completely random, 3x lvl 85 req boa's in less than 36 hours. for all of the time people are using to come up with an equation to make it all work out, could it maybe....just maybe, be possible by some stretch of the imagination that random means random?
评论来自
Gvaz
Now I know why Zin'rokh is an archaeology reward. Blizzard is literally
trolling
you into thinking you'll get one.
评论来自
MOUNTIE2031
I just received the sword and wanted to post my experience to see if anyone may find it useful. I lvled my warlock from 80 on using only archeology. I had did this same with my rogue and dk but it never dropped on either toon. What I did different with my warlock compared to my other toons was a few things. First I lvled my warlock to 525 first before any troll solves. On my rogue and dk I did all my troll solves starting at 450 on the way to max archy to 525. My total troll solves was 32 for my warlock and I did all my troll solves in Zg where Hakkar was originally. Before on my other toons I lvled archy in Storm wind. Hope this helps and thx.
评论来自
aztorga
ok, basically i got this sword an hour ago
100 solves on my DK and nothing
level arch on my lock alt, same as others i only solve troll projects after 450, i got like 1200 fragments + 30 tablets and still nothing
level arch on my hunter alt, same as i did with my lock, but i collected 1500 fragments + 40 tablets, solve after 450, i almost give up and i got 300 fragments left and next project is this sword
it really takes time to get this sword but it's really worth it.
amory:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/aztorga/simple
评论来自
759359
Forgive me for dragging this up again but for some reason I can't find it anywhere, probably just bad at looking.
It's been confirmed that you don't need to have all troll commons before getting the sword, right?
评论来自
761403
Im currently leveling my hunter alt to level 75 with archaeology. I started at level 63. I am currently level 70 with 6/20 bars. On my DK, I solved over 210 troll artifacts after level 450 with no sword. When I reach level 450, I plan on solving my fossil fragments to level 525 after buying Illustrius Grand Master, and then going to Zul'Gurub where Hakkar was originally, abandoning my pet as a sacrifice, then chain solving. I will have over 3000 fragments when I do this. I will update you when I reach level 75. I am currently getting 1 bar about every 20 minutes or so at level 70.
评论来自
761403
Can anyone show me where Hakkar the Soulflayer was originally located?
评论来自
259315
I've noticed a lot of people talking about going to ZG to solve troll artifacts.. Does this "increase" the chance that Zin' Rokh will be your next project or is this just people hoping that it does "increase" the chance?
评论来自
766045
Is there any screenshot blue saying there actually is a bug getting this sword?
Four characters to 525 arch and total 342 troll artifacts solved post 450. Just can't stop until I get it
http://img831.imageshack.us/f/zinfarm1.png/
评论来自
561032
Shadow--
And I've been trying to get the sword since forever and I got the Staff which *I* can't use. Go figure. Curse you Blizz for making these bad boys BoA!
评论来自
Kyhnu
After 2 weeks and 3 days of farming over 4000 fragments and levelling archeology on 2 different characters I finally got Zin'Rokh on my 203rd solve!
I screamed like a boy getting an RC for Christmas, on Skype.
评论来自
Kyhnu
Haha, the one in the middle where Hakkar used to be dazzling at (although it's been remodelled) but I doubt it has any effect on the drop :)
评论来自
Auroron
Contacted a GM (again) regarding a possible bug with Zin'Rokh. Last time I got an answer (Although I never spoke with the GM, I got a mail when I logged in) saying that Zin'Rokh was bugged.
This time I actually spoke to a GM, and he denied there being a bug with Zin'Rokh, so I guess that kills off the rumors.
But oh wait, proof, you say?
Damn right I got proof:
http://tinypic.com/r/35iqhxu/7
http://tinypic.com/r/312eb1y/7
http://tinypic.com/r/35jbek9/7
So there you have it, no bugs with Zin'Rokh proccing. So rest easy, and keep on solving those troll projects!
评论来自
Rocker742
Since this is BoA.. Is it mailable cross faction? I think I'll grind on my Alliance toon for a couple days since my Horde one didn't have any luck.
评论来自
742660
Of course you can send BoA items cross faction.
评论来自
761403
What is the Archy command to see how many artifacts you have solved?
评论来自
763947
The question wasn't whether there was a bug with being given Zin'Rokh. Low drop rate, working as intended, etc.
The bug is that once you are given Zin'Rokh, it can disappear or change to something else.
L2Read
评论来自
767021
Got it on my 193rd solve, It was right after I said in party that this is my last solve before I go buy my pvp weapon.
评论来自
265373
It's funny that it doesn't take me 400 tries doing /random to hit the number 1, but it has been ~400 solves so far and no Zin'rokh.
Also, the chance to have a solve proc the same solve again seems high, maybe I should go to a casino bet the same number on a roullette.
I really support that idea that Blizzard should implement some sort of counter that increases drop chance on the 1% drop items after many tries, to reward the guys that grind hard for them, and make them less angry at the guys that get those items in less than 25 tries.
xD
评论来自
459066
Finaly got it after 130 solve just 5min ago ! Im a lucky man... THX GOD
Here the screen
评论来自
767125
Just got it in my 60 troll solve (20 since 450 arch skill) with blood dk, so it's just about luck.
Guys who are over9000 troll solves just keep it up, and the awesome sword will come eventually!
评论来自
767137
I finally got it after my 109th solve.
I was at the center of ZG when it finally popped for me. Chance.. or?.. Who knows. ;)
评论来自
767201
About this sword .. to anyone that gets it at all your lucky .. im all most starting to think that even if you are unlucky your not going to get it .. im right now at 160 solves .. iv talked to a GM about it nothing .. iv tryed voodoo dolls rabbet feet .. a pocket gnome in an elvis jump suite one gallon of gas a case of beer a pack of cigs a migget riding around on a mini bike with a monkey watching tv in the back ground playing bingo ..
Got it all on fraps plan to put it all togather when i get a proc or end up giving up on this .. if you have not gotten started or dead set for JUST THIS sword .. then go arena and get your free epix i myself wish id never have seen the damn thing GOODLUCK to everyone getting one and to the people who have one already .. nicccccce
评论来自
GaeBolge
OK now, this is just something which I have been mingling around in my head, and I doubt it has any real factor on archaeology, but I just wanted to check and make sure.
Does anyone know if some of the rares have a requirement, such as Zin'Rokh here, that you must find X amount of the other confirmed rares before it is viable to appear as a solvable task? Or is it just a completely random thing, and one could possibly find Zin'Rokh as there first rare solve?
评论来自
767473
This thing is just pure luck....I've just completed 330 troll solves and no sword.
评论来自
767857
I suggest doing this in a way where you will not lose your sanity.Case in point using up about 200-350 fragments you surveyed for the day(Only 200 in 4.06 so might as well do it that way)and use them up before going to bed.I just used up my 2100 fragments and 35 tablets and did not get this sword. It's pure freaking RNG if you don't wanna lose time or your sanity make a schedule on how long you want to do Archaeology etc... I suggest using up the least amount of time.I spent a week and a half getting about 3000 fragments and about 50 tablets and guess what? Nothing... . The thing is a nightmare.However, do NOT give up if you want this sword do Archaeology every day and you might just get it tomorrow if you used up all your numerous fragments it's not the end of the world.The next content patch is most likely months away and by that time you might get the Zin'rokh or even a better weapon.Don't give up, if you have lost the will to grind i suggest doing it the easy way for a time and then spending a whole week digging up fragments if you are the die hard type.
Anyway thanks for reading, toodles!
评论来自
710953
This would have to be the most difficult rare artifact to come across. I've created every common troll artifact over five times, some are around ten, and still no luck. This would be comparable to the Raven Lord Mount, in that the chances are extremely slim, but there's always the off-chance someone will find it early on.
评论来自
agracul
my main got both of archeology server firsts, no sword with 73 troll artifacts
i leveled archy on my alt only to craft 80 troll commons -> no sword again
another 60 troll commons go to my priest alt, again, so sword
unlike the comments above, i suggest to think of Zin'Rokh as it never existed. if u r after it, u wont get it.
only noobs get the cookies.
评论来自
653677
102 solves and no sword. : ( Random luck is lame.
评论来自
321449
For the past few days, I have seen a lot of warriors, ret pallys, and DKs on my server with Zin'rokh. I think they increased the proc rate, which isn't surprising considering how easy it is to get PvP weapon, which most of the people already have anyway.
评论来自
768370
I got it with my Ret 2 days ago after 389 solves ! Just be patient.
评论来自
759359
Just hit 300 solved and still nothing, trying to keep digging but its getting increasingly harder :P
评论来自
561032
I'd be happy if Blizz just took the BoA tag off the staff and the sword. Instead I end up with a staff I can't sell or trade while a guildie has the sword and he plays a caster. Go figure....
评论来自
259866
I used the tac to save up all Troll Fragments.
Since i am superstitious to the extreme game-wise i of course chose to do it at the temple of hakkar, and as soon as i dinged 450 arch i used all my troll fragments.
When i got to the last 400 i was saddened and thought "meh, it was worth the try", and then, as a lightning from the sky, the next solve was Zin'rokh..
To avoid the bug i chose not to use any of my troll tablets on the zin'rokh solve, and i would recommend people to just skip doing this, if you do not wish to have problems with this bug.. You have the solve, so take it the slow way and complete it, instead of risking it all for nothing!
Anyway, my god i'm happy, and it was all worth it. Hope this will keep up the hopes of Zin'Rokh farmers :)!
Ow, and while i leveled archaeology i had two rare solves at once, so yes it is possible to have more than one rare solve at a time. Dunno about more than two though..
评论来自
769243
I call upon the oldest and nobel wowhead. Grant me the patience to dig through Dwarf and Fossil digsites. The strength not to curse Blizzards name and the luck of the old Thottbot. Bestow upon me the power to destroy worlds.
评论来自
360879
Consistency, and I got it today!
I think after 130 th solve in total, but 105th after 450!
Was really happy when it procced!
The story is: I decided to do one for today, but one after another I would get Dwarf and Fossill digisites... And I had just 1 Troll fragmen missing and I had no keystones to use. Luckily I found 1 in AH :) Paid 90g. Solved in SW. You know what happened next :)
评论来自
578083
Gathered
3078
troll fragments and 5 stacks of troll tablets.
Was solving at 525 skill level (got there with fossil/dwarfs/elves). Gathered 6 rares while leveling.
Was standing on top of Hakkar Temple facing East.
Sword procced on 18th troll solve.
2518 fragments unused, sigh.
Amazing weapon for ret paladins by the way, beautiful top-end.
Good luck to all who still on grind.
评论来自
Multirole
Reached 450 skill lvl with 1725 fragments and 28 troll tablets. I used them all last night and all I got was GREY ITEMS...
I've never been lucky with random drops but last night was too much. I'm giving up, goodbye Zin'rokh!
PD: Gonna lvl my hunter U_u'
评论来自
769885
Just got super lucky and unlocked this sword at archeology lvl 472, I'm lvl 85. So glad its BoA my DK will be happy.
评论来自
769893
For what its worth, I got this on my 3rd troll solve. And yes this was the only reason I did archeology. I just got REALLY lucky.
评论来自
343264
Countless number of fragments, couple hunderds of tablets, 422 troll artifacts and nothing. I'm not giving up, but it becomes ridiculous.
评论来自
564166
This is my total count of everything I have done:
Total Rares: 16
Total Common Artifacts:
Troll: 127 (0 Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds)
Dwarf: 76
Fossil: 67
Night Elf: 70
Nerubian: 10
Orc: 10
Tol'vir: 6
Vrykul: 36
I see ppl solving over 300 and getting non. I will try that strat of solving only fossils and save all trolls for the 3rd rare on an alt soon. Hell worst case I level my 80 hunter a little with archy.
评论来自
265373
I gave up at 500 troll solves. 99.3% chance, but no sword. And no dwarf staff either. It was a fun month.
评论来自
561032
Ouch! I got the staff, but naturally I can't use it. Sigh....
The only thing that's kept this from being a total waste of time is that everytime I fly over Twilight Highlands I farm Elementium . I've got over 5,000 gold worth of Hardened Elementium bars in the bank now.
Hey I wonder if I can get Frequent Flyer Miles for this?
评论来自
hawko
is this a bug about farming it using a DK? or that doesnt matter? i farmed 300 troll artifacts and no sword.. im about to sell my wow account stop this $%^& game and come back on daoc ..
评论来自
770766
got mine day ago,it was 59th solve in troll so i feel really lucky
here is armory
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmourne/zbaraz/simple
评论来自
430078
hmm more like "Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Lives"
评论来自
hawko
Anyone got the sword after he hitted 300 solves? or shall i just give up since i've made around 320 and no sword?
评论来自
Kankipappa
If you got over 150 solves and no Zin'rokh, I'm saying you already "Have it" or if you like to say you're "banned" from it.
Why I know this? Today, I was doing my third character for trying to get Zin'rokh and just solved trolls too to get levelup to 375 faster. Well guess what? I got a 15 point skillup from common solve @ 260 skill level. Ringing any bells yet? Before when the rares only gave 5 skillups this wasn't so clear problem, but now I got proof of it...
and Here's a screenshot of the skillup
http://y0ok.wippiespace.com/bug.jpg
Or is this somekind of rare "proc" of common skillup what can occur?
评论来自
561032
Troll Sword Progression:
100 Solves - Quit Trying
200 Solves - Quit Game
300 Solves - Run Screaming Into the Night
400 Solves - Swallow a .38 Special
评论来自
771726
Just for confirmation for those after this, I got it at 500 skill, 28 troll artifacts completed.
评论来自
Tectonic7
89 troll solve artifacts and no sword
Do you think its better to stop farming with my main and try it with my alt also since its a boa item ?
评论来自
771900
322 troll solved... still nothing.
same in dwarf...
and i had try to up arch on my alt, 100 troll solved after 450 and nothing too :o
评论来自
Chlorure
Can you have 2 rare project up at the same time?
I've been thinking about it just now and I have the dressing gown up in my Nelf tab and if you can't have 2 rare project up a the same time, i pretty much wasted hours. O_o
评论来自
agracul
over the last month ive tried to link the probability to get assigned with Zin'Rokh in a number a ways. here ill try to list all common rumors and my personal idias, so it will be easier to manage if theres any connection at all:
1) Zin'Rokh gets assigned at 525 skill & 85 lvl - FALSE (450 and 75 respectivelly, rumored to have no lvl restrictions)
2) Zin'Rokh gets assigned on a fixed troll solves (speculated 75 & 150 solved) - FALSE
3) Zin'Rokh gets assigned at a special location - FALSE (we've seen people spawn it in ZG, ST, STV, SW, UC, Org, Tanaris and other places)
4) Zin'Rokh gets easily assigned on alt, when your main has over 150 trolls completed - FALSE
Needs to be verified
1) There are "uneligible classes": over the 291 comments listed on this page ive seen the following classes get Zin'Rokh: priests, mages, warlocks, dk, paladins, hunters, warriors. I havent seen (or noticed) shamans, druids or rogues actually discover Zin'Rokh. Link if im wrong. Ive also noticed priests get Zin'Rokh more often and at earlier skill level comparing to other classes.
2) Zin'Rokh might gets assigned only withing some period of time when some criteria are met. This idea is developed from a post a few pages ago, when 2 people get Zin'Rokh each at the same skill level under 525 within a short period of time. Seems like there is a "window" when Zin'Rokh could actually spawn, and solving trolls at any other period of time only wastes your fragments.
============
Currently im researching if Zin'Rokh gets assigned after a number of rare artifacts done. Zin'Rokh is mostly assigned as 7th artifact, based on info collected here and from my guild members / people from my sever. 4th is another commonly stated number, so the theory is
the chance you get Zin'Rokh as your next task gets higher when the rares done tab shows 3/6/9/12/15/18
.
The reason i still do not believe that archeology is pure RNG is that my second profession is alchemy which was believed to be pure RNG untill blizzard stated that the procs actually depend on the zone where the character does the transmute. This makes me believe that archeology acts the same way and there should be some hidden formulas.
评论来自
564166
I was a little concerned about a bug with some common items giving 15 archy points when solved (thinking there would be a way for them to count as rares making the chance to get this sword impossible). I sent an email to Blizzard asking them about it and this was the response I got, hope this fuels some light of hope in all of us looking for this sword:
Petition: I was wondering if Archeology has any issues. I understand that RNG is the base of the profession when it comes to getting rares and also if I have already solved that rare pattern. I guess my concern is based on this screen shot
http://img843.imageshack.us/f/wowscrnshot011011192309.jpg/
where a player received 15 points from a common solved (you can see he jumped from 495 to 510 after solving the Zandalari Voodoo Doll) and if this common counted as a rare for any reason (also since Troll only get 1 rare that would make the rare count for Troll 0 to be able to obtain) if this will make it impossible at that point to Q in rare for that race, in my case Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds since I been looking for it. I don't remember seeing this happen to me as I was leveling, but after someone hits 525 is impossible to see how many arch points someone would get. This is the only concern I have, if you don't have info at this point is ok, I just thought I would ask :)
Answer: Hey there, I apologize that I wasn't able to speak with you while you were online. I have reviewed the issue you reported with Zandalari Voodoo Doll granting 15 points. This is currently an issue that we are investigating and working to get resolved as soon as possible. However, Zandalari Voodoo Doll is not considered a rare project, and this has no effect on the troll project Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds, which is a completely random spawn. Thank you for bringing this issue to my attention =)
This was a response directly from a GM, I do not know how much they can reveal or not but I am sure he would of told me not to solve if there was a bug involved and it was better for me to wait for a fix. It is definitely obtainable cuz of the number of players that have the sword. We just got to keep digging... F-U RNG... F-U!
评论来自
211544
Hmm, I also tried getting the sword after my 6th rare artifact, 1400 fragments down the drain......
Was during day, roughly 16:30, though I doubt the Sword is time related or shares a cooldown with other players, as in ''putting a cap'' on how many folks can have the sword on a day (or week).
评论来自
Vecxid
How many people /random 100 every time they solve a troll artifact and see if you roll a 100 as in 1% chance? lol
评论来自
hawko
I think the correct chance is 0.5%.
Anyways, shall i stop digging since I already did 360 troll artifacts without any success? or should i keep doing it? cause i think im bugged and ill never get it
评论来自
627828
Alrighty. I've been doing archeology since Cata went active. I have gone through thousands of troll fragments (200-600 daily) and I have yet to see this sword. So my advice to anyone considering trying for this weapon.
Don't
.
Get the Vicious Gladiator's Greatsword or the one from Tol Barad. Their not as good but you can actually
get
them. Blizz made this so rare that your wasting your time. This weapon is for the 1 in a million lucky person who happens to pull it, not for someone who tries for it.
This weapon is mythical like the Loch Ness Monster and Diablo 3, it doesn't exist in any practical terms.
评论来自
667506
My main character has 78 troll artifacts solved. Though, admittedly, not all of them were solved at 450+, most of them were (leveled all over the world to get all the achievements).
I decided, I might as well gain experience while doing this, so I took a level 80 character and leveled him in Eastern Kingdoms, only solving Dwarf, Fossil, and the occasional Night Elf artifact. Saved up all my troll fragments until level 450 (my character was almost 84 by then from archaeology).
I didn't count the amount of troll artifacts I made after 450. The fragments were 2.100+, so, assuming an average of 32 fragments per artifact, probably around 66 artifacts in total. Plus the 50+ troll artifacts solved on my main after he hit 450.
No Zin'Rokh.
I'm at the point of giving up. I sunk SO MANY hours into this ^&*! that even if I get it, one stinking epic just doesn't seem worth it.
评论来自
754544
People keep quoting a 1% chance for this to proc. Anybody, where is this stated by Blizzard or is this just an arbitrary number somebody came up with and you all took it for gospel?
评论来自
177655
Ive done around 8000 troll fragments and 6000 dwarven. Haven't seen the staff or sword yet. Make the game very very tedious, and not enjoyable. I feel like a hamster running in a wheel trying to get closer to the seemingly easily attainable food, but it is always just out of reach.
评论来自
772884
Just got this tonight. 27th Troll solve but I spent my time leveling on the other side of the pond. Could not believe my eyes when it came up. Beats catching the turtle mount by a "Landslide."
How many are out there btw?
评论来自
Zydell
Here's an updated version of the macro I made earlier, it returns troll solves, fragments used and the chance to have found the sword by that time.
/run local a=0 for y=1,GetNumArtifactsByRace(8) do local t=select(9,GetArtifactInfoByRace(8,y)); a=a+t; end print("Troll: " .. a .. " solves, ~"..(a*29) .." fragments ("..floor(1000*(1-(0.995^a)))/10 .. "% chance to have found the sword by now.)");
Notes:
Please note that the macro may bug (give lower solves/percentages) after just solving a troll item. If this is the case, go to the archaeology panel, then the second tab (showing you all your solves done) and then run it again and it will be ok.
Assumptions:
- The chance to find the sword is 0.5% (1% seems too low, as for now its still just a guess, if someone can calculate the estimated chance to find it from the reports in this thread I will adjust it.
- You have not solved troll fragments pre-450.
- You are using troll tablets as you find them; assuming that you will use them in about 50% of the solves where you can use a troll tablet.
Possible adjustments:
- Adjust the solve rate, currently set at 0.5%, for 1% change "0.995^a" to "0.99^a".
- Correcting the macro for solves done before hitting 450: change "local a=0" to "local a=-", please note the minus sign before the number, e.g. you have done 10 solves pre-450, then change it to "local a=-10".
- When you
never
use troll tablets, change "(a*29)" to "(a*34)".
- When you
always
use troll tablets for every solve, change "(a*29)" to "(a*25)".
So in my case I solved 14 fragments pre-450 and
always
use troll fragments (buy them from AH), so it becomes:
/run local a=-14 for y=1,GetNumArtifactsByRace(8) do local t=select(9,GetArtifactInfoByRace(8,y)); a=a+t; end print("Troll: " .. a .. " solves, ~"..(a*25) .." fragments ("..floor(1000*(1-(0.995^a)))/10 .. "% chance to have found the sword by now.)");
The estimations on average fragments used are calculated from my own data (they are for troll solves only). I have solved around 165 artifacts (and no sword in case you wondered :P)
评论来自
nhawdge
In patch 4.0.6 blizzard is likely to rename this Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of Freetime,
评论来自
hawko
Anyone got it after he hitted 300+ tries?
评论来自
Raqi
i got it after the 150th troll solve on my warrior ( my pala did 37 troll solves after 450)
it was also the 10th rare (got the achievement)
solving in duskwood at the ogre digsite
评论来自
Fredberg
you can have two rares up at the same time.
Just recently had both the Bones of transformation for Nelf and Pendant of the scarab storm at the same time.
评论来自
773309
After going through this page and a thread on the worldofwarcraft.com forums. I collected 20 datapoints (Didn't use any from hearsay "my friend got it after x many" or any where people said "about") and average the # of tries. While 20 may not seem like a large number there are actually over 2122 "attempts" in these all with a probability p of occurring.
Given these data points the average tries was 106.1 or a 0.94% chance of occurring. So 1% drop rate seems to be a reasonable guess. If people post more numbers here (# of troll artifacts solved after 450 until you got Zin'rokh), we can update this number.
I myself have gone about 324 troll solves (over 3 characters, all but 20 after 450) without getting one.
评论来自
hawko
Ive resolved around 380 troll artifacts so far and nothing.. Im keep digging hoping to get one :( PORCO DI DIO BASTARDO
评论来自
triplezero
I agree with alot of people here. Things that are very wrong with this..
1: Should not be some bullsht "Random" chance to get it Anything RANDOM is Gay.
What it should be is After you solved ALL troll artifacts you get this as your next slove
then it req's like 250 or say to make it somewhat of a challange to get it.
2: You should not have to dig up stupid ass Fossil and dwarf fragments to hope for a RANDOM troll dig site. Theres that Random @#$% again gata Love it.
3: When a Random site is spawned it shouldent be across the entire fkin continent
4: For the PVE equiv of the current glad weps the difficulty to get this is insanely harder, thats horse !@#$.
So yea its bascially blizzard going: haha you know what lets throw in this badass pve epic sword but do the listed above ^ That'll Screw with there minds some, MORE MONEY FOR US LOL.
Money scam written all over it, Greedy lil azzhats huh?
评论来自
Kankipappa
404 solves from three characters (250 + 80 + 72), No dice so far.
It just feels that I can't even get lucky once in a lifetime. Why it has to be so random, everyone who got the sword would probably win on a lottery too. Nearly 2 months wasted now... :|
评论来自
Septemvii
This thing is idiotically huge, looks really terrible. Like FF7 terrible
but the stats are nice :)
评论来自
773619
Got my Zin’rokh today! Yeeeeeeeehaw!
I first tried on my Orc Death Knight - Level 85 - Nozer (Arthas) but no luck. Did about 40 Troll solves. I did not save them as recommended.
So then I tried on my Orc Warrior - Level 85 - Dozer (Arthas).
From the start I saved all the Troll fragments. Stayed in the Eastern Kingdom continent. Hit 450 in Archeology today.
What’s funny is that this character (Dozer) got the original level 60 Zin’rokh way back when. So I thought, just out of respect for the sword, I go back to the same Alter that I got the level 60 Zin’rokh in Zul’Gurub and do all the Troll solves right there on top of that alter. I don't think it makes a difference but I just did it for the fun of it.
I had 1,117 Troll Fragments and 27 Troll Tablets. On the 11th solve, bang! There it was!
I sent the sword to Nozer, my DK and took a screenshot and posted it here. We’ll see if it gets posted.
It’s nice to see the sword in action again. It’s sooooo amazingly long and the trailing swoosh graphics are neat!
Doin the Zin’rokh dance!
Good luck to all who are going for it.
评论来自
767473
468 troll solves....no sword....continuing onwards!
评论来自
773699
Blizzards doing this on purpose, its mocking me, its waving zin rokh in my face and mocking the fact that i dont have it.
How do i know this? oh i'll tell you
To date: i have completed 9 rare artifacts (not including orc or dranei as i skipped that while leveling) and over 130 trollish artifacts
My Latest run of the Temple of Ahn quiraj revealed to me the coveted Red vibrating crystal
My latest run of molten core (the same f***ing day) was giving unto me the right binding of the windseeker
While farming Arch in the eastern kingdoms. A place as most of you know with only TWO! night elf archaeology sights, i got the rare "Bones of Transformation" pattern.
Blizzard is torturing me by giving me a buttload of rare stuff and not giving me the one thing i want T.T ZIN ROKH WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME! ...maybe its trolling the troll who trolls on trade chat o.o; i rleh shouldah chosen a different character...and thing to do with my spare time... DAM YOU KARMA!
评论来自
430078
there seems to be some sort of pattern in the amount of time it takes people to find this sword, ive noticed that its split into two different groups: one group that gets this in less than 50 solves and than the group thats been doing it for weeks and have lost their sanity (im in this group)....so im not sure this can simply be random chance, that seems to simple for blizzard, possibly a cap on the amount that can be found each week? who knows....i hav 9 rare artifacts found and found every troll artifact at least 5 times each....if anyone has any theories they think blizz put behind this bad boy, let em out
评论来自
neganx
they really need to change archaeology, you should be rewarded for time and effort put in, like other professions including the other secondary professions. I kind of had fun with archaeology until I spent almost a full month doing it all the time for nothing useful. I really hope blizzard looks at these, blizz? you listening? archaeology sucks! make it useful in some way. The random .0001% chance is just enough to get us interested, but then no reward = no fun
评论来自
752379
so. freakin. ridiculous.
they really need to, at the LEAST, make it so you can disable/enable types of dig sites. You don't have to take a break every other obsidium node to go find a copper node, why the hell are they making us do that for archaeology.
hoping for some wowhead gripe post juju
评论来自
Tectonic7
To jimvision
Which rare project was you sword ?
i stopped to dig with my main after 120 + troll solves
now i lvl up my alt also
hope to be as lucky as you and gz for your sword
评论来自
773944
Got my Zin’rokh today!
189 solves
Solve at Ogrimnmar
Yaaahul!
On Paladin 525 Archaeology skill, 15º rare artefact.
评论来自
Scyth3x
Just had it pop up, this is my 19th rare.
525 arch, did 1-525 in kalimdor, didn't touch EK until I was maxed.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5417/zinny.jpg
The worst part? I'm holy, just spec ret to farm/do dailies ^^
评论来自
Tectonic7
yes you answered my question dude
thanks a lot i have the same 4 rare drops also as you i hope sword will be the 5th for me also
in a few hours i ll start solving my troll fragments with my alt also since i was unlucky with my main after 120 + solves
Give me positive energy !
评论来自
255865
Have anyone tried standing in ZG while wielding the old Zin'rokh being either a troll or transformed into one and trolling in /1 or /g ?
does it work?
Trollfaçe
评论来自
hawko
Is this possible that you don't get Zin'rokh project if you use troll tablets that you didnt dig up? for example, troll tablets you bought from AH?
评论来自
773619
Just a thought from someone who got the Zin'rokh.
I always carry 1 stack of 5 "Rabbit's Foot" in my inventory. It's a grey item. Drops off wolfs near Undercity and wolfs elsewhere too.
Maybe chances improve with this in your inventory?
Long shot, just thought I mention it.
评论来自
756982
I had enough myself I took a break from trying to get this, people keeping tabs i'm sure you saw more then one post from me keeping updates on my luck. I stopped at 300 troll solves exactly I was at my max over a month and one week later and still nothing so now i'm getting my mining and BS up perhaps i'll go back to this perhaps not i'm not sure I even really want this sword anymore after so many solves and just simply not getting any result it made me hate even seeing the digging sites on my map when I bring it up lol. I'll try again in a few days perhaps, best of luck guys mine is all ran out.
评论来自
shrikearghast
Unlike a lot of people here, I gave up early.
I got up to about 1500 troll tablets, started solving at 450 skill, and got absolutely nothing for my 45 or so solves.
Rather than conclude that I had 'committed a lot of time, and thus had to finish' or something along those lines, I got angry at Blizzard for wasting the hours that I gave up to this, and hung up my trowel for good. The skills are off my bar, and the profession is permanently shelved.
I'm tired of whoring myself out to the RNG. It used to be in WoW that if you put in dozens of hours grinding for an item or a trade skill (the Felwood Furlbogs come to mind, or Thorium Brotherhood), you'd get it. The items you couldn't grind for -- the drops -- weren't so ridiculously low percentage that you'd never see them. In fact, only a few, scattered items (the Baron's mount, his sword, the sword dropped by the final boss of UBRS) were really low percentage. Everything else was just normal 5-man or raid loot.
Additionally, I don't like the unanswered questions and problems with this profession. Why do so few people get this item after 40 solves on one character, thus having to regrind continuously on alts? Why are there so few troll digsites after you advance past 450? It's like Blizzard intentionally designed a system that's set up to screw people, and I'm not going to get suckered in any longer.
A friend of mine calculated that he had a good percent chance of finding the sword in 100 or so drops. And, low and behold, tonight he got it on his 90th or so solve, on the third character he ground through the millwheel.
But the thing is, you don't have an increasing chance the further you go. You have a 1% chance every single time you create an item, and if it doesn't happen, then you get a 1% chance after that. The odds don't, in fact, increase over time -- every time you roll the dice, you have a 1 in 100 shot of getting this. You could -- and many people on this forum have -- waste a solid month grinding this professions on a half dozen alts and NEVER SEE ANYTHING. You could, conceivably, spend years working on this and never see it.
You know what's a nice item? Ashkandi. And it's not some rare effing drop, either.
评论来自
762384
Well i officiall. give up on this forsaken item and the skill entirely.
Been grinding for 3 weeks now more or less nonestop. first got my war up to 450 and started solving all the troll fragments i had saved up since i started and the belonging tablets. Even keept going after that. ended up with 110troll solved with 0 zin'rock im afraid.
I did end up with 6 rares that i have absolutly no use for or even want tbh.
The Innkeeper's daughter
The Clockwork Gnome
Fossilized Raptor
Chalice of the Mountain Kings
Fossilized hatchling
Queen Azshara's Dressing Gown
i did all my farming in Eastern Kingdom. Getting kinda annoyed over the bad luck i figured id try my luck on my mage instead. (i know dosent really matter but at this point frustration took over and superstition)
So started working on the mage that was lvl 80 and dident really do any questing just did the Archeology and the odd dungeon every now and then. Just got him up to lvl 85 and skill level 450 10mins ago. At this point i had saved up 1561 Troll fragment and another 45 Troll Tablets. at this point the Mage have gotten 4 rares
Chalice -
Raptor mount
Gnome pet
Raptor pet
and a 5th is still being worked on but its the druid and priest statue set.
Anyway so head over to ZG temple (at this point ill take any help i can take) and Start solving.
Well guess what, dident get it...
in totall with both chars im up to 170troll solves and nothing. so thank you Blizzard for nothing.
my Advice fellas. just dont bother. there's other weapons out there that are just so much easier to get, this just aint worth the time or the pain.
评论来自
dragonsbf
First off, I'd like to thank everyone who contributed to this thread; it helped me in my successful hunt for this very elusive sword.
To summarize what I did, please read below. Again, this is in all thanks to everyone in this thread.
Do all Archeology Surveys/Digs in Eastern Kingdoms; more Troll sites
Level Archeology to 100 via
only
Surveying; Do Not Solve Anything
After one reaches 100 skill in Archeology, begin to solve everything
but Troll fragments
Once one reaches 450 skill in Archeology, begin solving Troll fragments. Please note that I solved at 525, but started solving for it at 450
Statistics upon completing the creation of
辛洛斯,诸界的毁灭者
Archeology Level Started: 450
Solved at Archeology Level: 525
Troll fragments started: 1100+
Troll fragments ended: 326
Rare #: 7
Solves: 28
Location Solved:
http://www.cuckhead.com/maps?data=8:695516
My superstitions:
Solved right in the middle of the altar at the Temple of Atal'Hakar located in the Swamp of Sarrows; note the above, 'Location Solved'.
Used Troll Tablets sporadically; even if I could use them, sometimes I did, sometimes I didn't.
Superstitions that I can prove False:
I made the Zandalari Voodoo Doll
赞达拉巫毒人偶
once at 465 which leveled me 15 skill up points, and again at 525 before I solved the Sword. So the bug we all fear didn't hinder me in solving this sword.
Thanks for reading and a huge thank you to everyone who contributed.
DragonSBF,
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-legion/dragonsbf/simple
评论来自
62449
760ish Fragments stacked, 18 keyrings. No Zin'rokh. ^&*!. My. Life.
评论来自
71773
farming for this is inhumain, i'm very dissapointed with blizzard. 70 troll solves ;40 dwarf ; 70 NE ;50 fossil. the ratio isnt bad imo, but nothing ever before this made me smoke so much herb just to manage the wait.
评论来自
shrikearghast
My biggest issue is that arch is essentially all risk and no reward. You lay a massive amount of time out on the table, and gamble -- literally -- that there will be a return. Some people win big. Most get nothing back. That, to me, is not the kind of system I want to see in a game.
Tell me: if you knew that you could get the Zin'rokh absolutely at the end of 500 troll solves, would you do it?
I think I would. I mean, that's a long investment, but you'd know
for sure
that, in the end, you'd have the best warrior/pally/DK weapon in the game right now when you finished.
And, let me add, it's not like that grind wouldn't be severe. We're talking about weeks and weeks of invested effort here, for a payoff that's going to be rendered obsolete by the next raiding teir in a span of months. Blizzard has given away weapons like this for far,
far
less effort in the past.
But here's the thing with arch: there is no 'set number.' You could grind for months at this, accumulating
thousands
and
thousands
of fragments, and have
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL
to show for the effort.
That's the problem with this system.
If you don't get the reward you're after,
there's no reward at all.
There's no midlevel, longterm resolution to that problem. You either commit to the grind and pray your luck follows through, or you don't... and if you don't, you're always left wondering 'what if?' Of course, we know the answer to 'what if' for most of us: and that answer is: 'not a chance in hell.' But, of course, we had to waste dozens of hours to make sure that was the case.
评论来自
Chlorure
Leveled 2 toons from 1 to 450 keeping all the troll fragments.
Ended up with probably over 3000 fragments in total.
Got nothing. Im so bummed that I think im going to take a few weeks of off this @#$%ing game,
评论来自
775155
200+ troll solves and nothing, so much fun.
评论来自
Felidire
I get a lot of whispers when people see me using this thing.. Had at least 40 people whisper.
I farmed in Kalimdor for 2.5 weeks, 8-10 hours a day trying to get the Vial of the Sands; including christmas day! I never got the damn thing after 15 jars.
After passing 450, I accidentally pieced this sword together (which I had no idea existed) after solving 10 or so troll artifacts. Kalimdor ain't exactly rich in troll digsites either, and I never dug anywhere other than kalimdor. I'd never touch Archaeology again, if you want a good weapon then just grab one from the conquest vendor, believe me.... I don't really need/want this sword, it's sexy but arch is pure hell, you'll never walk out with the items that you aimed for while leveling the profession up.
If you really want to devote countless days/weeks towards farming for this, then just stick in eastern kingdoms the entire 1-525, never leave, never spend any troll fragments until you hit 450, and don't spend any of the other race's fragments until you hit 100. You may get it eventually but considering the amount of effort required the conquest/10 man 2H weapons are much better alternatives.
Good luck! -- I'd gladly give this sword away for free to save someone the hardship if I could, that's just how bad Arch was for me.
评论来自
shoover56
god damnit the more i read these comments the stupider that i get
nothing you do, EVER, is going to change the drop rate on getting this as your next project. Do us a favor and stop wasting us 5 seconds of useless *I pointed in the east and carried rabbits foots and i got it in my next solve* bull&*!@ to read.
评论来自
shrikearghast
The key piece that almost everyone misses here is that,
whatever percentage Zin'rokh is, that percentage doesn't change no matter how many times you solve troll artifacts.
I keep seeing people posit these numbers where it's like 'I solved 400 troll items, so technically I should have had a 99% chance of seeing it by now.'
That's bunk.
Each time you 'roll' the RNG dice, you are creating a seperate,
isolated
event. Thus, it is 1% (for the sake of argument -- obviously we don't know what it is) the first time you roll, and it is 1% the last time you roll, and that chance doesn't change throughout the cycle. Just because you have more shots at the target doesn't meant that you won't still miss every time.
If your rolls had some cumulative effect -- IE, every time you 'missed' on Zin'rokh, it chipped a percentage point off of 100 (slowly increasingly your odds in the process) -- then solving 400 artifacts would clearly help a lot.
But it doesn't. The RNG isn't effected by bulk, and a massed assault -- while increasing the number of chances you get to hit that 1-in-100 slam dunk -- doesn't alter the fact that every time you take aim, you still only have a 1% shot of making the bucket. You have as much chance of seeing this silly thing after 5 hours of grinding as 50.
And that's what really burns me about the entire thing.
评论来自
775666
Fantastic.
I must have been very lucky. I have inadvertently solved 35 Troll Artifacts before hitting 450 due to a mix-up of what I actually wanted. No matter, I've saved the rest until I leveled to 525. By that point I had 1700 fragments.
I went to Sunken Temple, for good luck, and solved Troll Artifact after Artifact. I was getting desperate towards the 800 mark until I finally hit it. I used the tablets sporadically.
Now I've got the sword - woot woot.
评论来自
775766
Assuming a 1% prot rate (I don't know if that's the actual number, but it seems like a number that might be used for this sort of thing), it's going to be a good while before you'll see this project come up. The following analysis guarantees nothing; chance is notoriously fickle. You might solve 1000 troll artifacts and see nothing, or you might solve 1 and have it prot on the very first attempt when you are skill lvl 450.
With a 1% drop rate here's your rough chance of seeing Zin'roc prot over the course of any given number of solves.
# of solves/ % you'll see the sword come up/ # of fragments you'll most likely need for this number of solves.
1/ 1%/ 33.57
10/ 10%/ 335.7
50/ 39%/ 1678.5
100/ 63%/ 3357
200/ 87%/ 6714
300/ 95%/ 10071
400/ 98%/ 13428
500/ 99%/ 16785
This analysis is based on the following formula: (1-(1-p)^n)*100 = predicted chance that you'll see the sword drop over the course of n solves.
p = the probability that the sword will prot on any given solve (so 1%=.01)
n = the number of artifact solves you are modeling
When looking at the 14 common troll artifacts and their fragment cost (and assuming they all have an equal drop probability, which I'm not certain is true), I gathered that your average common troll artifact will take 33.57 fragments.
This analysis does not take into account what tablets can do for you.
This formula can be changed to adapt this analysis to model any other prot rate you like.
I have solved roughly 50 or so troll artifacts and have not seen the sword just yet. Since Archaeology doesn't bug me too terribly, I'm going to keep on trying to get it. Hope this gives people some idea of the odds of getting this project. Good luck to all you intrepid diggers!
评论来自
776067
Okay, so i know hundreds of people are farming for this bad boy and i have just a few tips on how to make it easier on yourself to acctually get this weapon.
1. Farm all digsites in Eastern Kingdoms till you get to rank 300 in Archaeology, !Make sure you don't use your troll artifacts or Tablets while leveling!
2. Make your hearthstone area somewhere in the middle zone between the very southern tip of Eastern Kingdoms and the very Northern , personally i chose Stormwind because it's very close to the middle.
3. At 300 head to Kalimdor, you will sadly get less troll artifacts but it avoids you ending up in horrible places like TH and Vashj'ir which are utterty terrible places to dig when you haven't even done the starting quests for them.
Hope this helps in some sort of way :)
评论来自
561032
Call me Ishmael.......
That should be the way the tale of my journey begins. I startrd reading about Archeology almost a year ago and got pretty excited about it. It was advertised as something for a player to do during "down time" when not running around killing everything that walked/ran/crawed/slithered. I thought it would be fun to revisit those lands I hadn't been to for years, and I really didn't care what, if any, the rewards were.
And that's the way it started. I sailed blissfully along through the EK, remembering what a tough time I had whan I first passed this way. Then I heard about that acursed white-whale of a sword and my life changed. The tenacity which I pursued this beast would have made ol' Ahab blush. Compared to some of the stories I've read I'm just a neophyte with "only" 190 Troll saves, but my journey is nearly over. I've decided to bag it at 200 solves and learn to be happy with the weapon I got in Tol Barad.
I've think I've read every single post that's been written about this issue, and folks, any theory except the chaos theory is purely bogus. I'll see what the next patch brings to Archeology, but until then I'll use my "down time" to go below, climb in my hammock, and take a nap.
评论来自
773309
I just hit 402 troll projects solved today after solving another 1000 saved up fragments. What I find interesting throughout this thread is that most people have gotten it in less than 150 troll solves if they have gotten it. I've rarely seen anyone saying they got it post 200, and even less post 300. I realize there's a bias on who posts the comments as compared to how much they've been farming, but it still seems to be a significantly high standard deviation for # of solves to Zin'Rokh.
If you have, or know someone that has farmed a ton to get this (250+ solves) and gotten it please find out how many troll projects they solved for this. After going through these comments and threads in the wow forums I'm really starting to think there is an issue with the project proccing correctly.
Edit: meant projects not fragments.
评论来自
Yugine
Couple pages ago someone posted a video of a guy who did ONLY fossils , got two raptors , and after 450 solved all his troll and got very quickly third rare - Zin'Rokh. So the speculation is about the third rare , which may procs really fast after the second (that's why fossils , only two rares).
Right now I've logged on long forgotten lvl70 shammy (third char. first was totally screwed , second got to 525 and then 100 solves) to check that theory , will update and repost after the end of this run. Wish me luck , guys. I'm doin freaking science here for all of you =)
评论来自
739888
Can someone tell me if it is possible to unlock zin when I'm 450/450 into arch.? Or do I need to train for illustrious in order to unlock the possibility of attaining the zin puzzle?
I'm asking cuz from what i've read about twilight highlands...i rather avoid that lol
评论来自
Gvaz
Here's the obvious conclusion:
Stuff like Zin, stuff like the bug mount, the recipie in the jars, etc, all those are really low, lower than the junk rares.
Equips of 359 and such are low.
I think what happens is that each time you roll you have a chance to obtain a common 98% or some really high number (which seems plausible).
Then there is a chance of a rare on your roll, and from that there is a list of those race's rares with each of their chances.
It would make sense that these rares themselves would have a low chance (for example the epics, which would explain why people tend to unlock those last. I personally have gotten no epics, unless there was nothing else to solve for that race's rares. Exception to this was Tol'vir, but they're pretty much
all
epics so I suppose that doesn't count) but why some people get the "good" rares such as the staves or mounts first, and also explains why most people tend to get the junk like the priest set or chalice before most other solves.
Anyways that's my own speculation.
评论来自
hawko
can i proc the zin'rokh if i'm level 70?
评论来自
Mokrath
Just completed
辛洛斯,诸界的毁灭者
on my 83 Paladin. Sent it off to my Death Knight to tank with. Completely random but I found it easier to farm it on different characters so I could have some form of progression while doing it.
Completed 61 Troll artifacts on my Shaman -
half after 450
Completed 79 Troll artifacts on my Death Knight -
all after 450
Completed 43 Troll artifacts on my Paladin -
all after 450
评论来自
Emberlock
If u ask me i would rather have 1000 fragments requirement for this $%^& with a 100% after hitting 525 than a dumb RNG proc
1000 = long worthy grind for a great weapon and after u done it u can finally say "Yeah bro i deserved this #$%^!"
1% chance = people with no clue whatsoever getting this is not just a slap in our faces but salt in our wounds too
评论来自
759359
Death Knight (main) - Solved 240 troll commons. Started solving at 525 with all troll fragments saved.
Hunter - Solved 76 troll commons. Started solving at 525 with all troll fragments saved.
Druid - Solved 140 troll commons. Leveled to 450 only solving fossil and had a whopping ~3500 fragments + 90 tablets saved.
So that brings the total to 456 solved and I'm done. *!@# you Blizzard.
edit: Of course I got the damn Staff of Sorcerer - Thane Thaurissan when I started solving dwarf. What a joke.
评论来自
Arkian
Cool script. A nice partner one to go with it would be one where you enter how many fragments you have and it spits out the likelyhood of you getting Zin'rokh from them.
It wont help you get Zin'rokh but it will help you judge when you should stop stockpiling troll fragments and start leveling beyond 450.
Something like this would work well.
/run a=5000 print("Troll: ~" .. (a/29) .. " solves, "..a .." fragments ("..floor(1000*(1-(0.995^(a/29))))/10 .. "% chance to find the sword before you run out of fragments.)");
Where
a
is set to the amount of fragments you have.
评论来自
hawko
Again I ask the question:
Can I proc the Zin'Rokh on my lvl70 warrior? thanks for answer.
评论来自
BlazingDeath
Apparently, DK's have a higher chance of getting Zin'rokh to drop c.C... 4 DK's on my server now have Zin'rokh, and are using it to tank (UGH), and all 4 have gotten it within 60 troll solves. I'm a warrior and am at 198 solved and still no weap. Damn them for using that to tank!
评论来自
698522
I run a mage. Got this as my 119th Troll Solve. Procced while i was in a dwarf dig site (Ruins of Thane). I've gotten the Ring of the Boy Emperor (14th Tol'vir solve) and the NE trinket (i think i recall around 46 NE solves). Still no Staff of Sorcerer, which is what I'm mainly going for, I'm currently over 110 dwarf solves. Looks like my 2nd toon's going to be a DK.
Hang in there, I definitely feel your pain if you're still digging for this sword or the staff.
评论来自
Laru
Just got this on my 10-20nd solve , at lvl 525 (i was taking a break from farming tyrande's doll for weeks) , dumb luck.
Btw, this sword is similar to the one nefarian drops.
Great 2 hander for my ret pally.
评论来自
azshari
got it after 181 solved
评论来自
azshari
blizzard must remove "Unique"
评论来自
767473
550+ troll solves, I'm done finally done farming this lol.....
评论来自
776374
It's all about perseverance, that's all this profession is. If you really want something as badly as most people here want this sword, you'll eventually come across it. There's no rhyme or reason to when it'll turn up despite all the superstitions people have posted, and if that sounds retarded, think of it this way:
Cataclysm has been out for under 2 months, most guilds haven't even got to the point where they're comfortable obtaining epics on a frequent basis yet, including the 2-Handers that can rival Zin'rokh. Getting this sword will set any 2H character up so they won't even need to roll on those weapons that drop in the normal 10-mans. It HAS to be such a low drop chance so raid gear doesn't become obsolete.
That's my two-cents, not trying to preach as I don't have this damn thing either, but I'll keep hunting for it if it kills me. Compared to others on here, I'm still pretty low down the count - currently at 115 Troll solves, with around 500 fragments and counting. Like I said, you want something bad enough, you'll keep on trucking until it shows. Keep going guys, don't give up!
评论来自
778039
I am so angry right now... I did what you guys told me to. I saved all of my troll tables before I reach level 425 in archeology. At the time i had about 830 troll archeology pieces and 20 troll tablets....
Well, I started solving Troll tablets when I reached 425 and I created 32 artifacts, all COMMON ! God Damn it ! I spent days and planned everything but still couldn`t get that damn sword. I hate archeology and the stupid randomness of it...
评论来自
776374
Just a few suggestions here to make searching for this at least the slightest bit bearable:
- Make sure you have time to farm this, I'm talking evenings or weekends when nothing is going on because you'd be so surprised how fast 6-8 hours can fly by simply by digging pieces of ground.
- Only farm in the EK, anywhere else will just slow you down
- Try aiming to cluster Troll sites together in Stranglethorn to gain the fragments in the fastest manner. If you see a couple Fossil or Dwarf sites in Arathi/Plaguelands, go for those first and work your way down the map (Wetlands > Twilight Highlands > Burning Steppes etc.) once this crap is done you'll likely see 2-3 digsites in STV, with more occasionally appearing in the North or South area of STV immediately after digging there. This way you'll obtain Troll Fragments quickly rather than hitting 1 or 2 sites spread around.
- This is just my preference, but don't click 'solve' every time you get enough for a single artefact. Sure its RNG so it COULD appear on that 1 solve, but there's something very disheartening about busting yourself back to 0 fragments for 1 piece of vendor crap - personally I find it better to save them.
- Don't get disheartened when you're hitting the 100's in solves and still nothing. Others are turning over 300, 400 some even 500 solves and they're still hunting - it's all about luck
- You will get it eventually, you just have to want it badly enough :)
评论来自
azshari
do i need to be lvl 85 to start solved and wait my chance or only 450 skill and start it ?
im lvl 82 now and my skill near 450 , and i save all troll fragments , but i dont know if i can start solve when i reach 450 or must be lvl 85 , plz some1 answer before i waste my time and fragments
评论来自
Chlorure
I started searching for the darn weapon again. This time I took my DK and I can say one thing: it is sooooo convenient to have Death gate!
I clear south and if I have site popping north I just use death gate and go up. South? heartstone to stormwind. My initial grinds took me 4 days of intense grinding. This time, im at probably 2 days and already at 300.
If you want to grind this weapon: grab an alliance DK!
评论来自
shrikearghast
This really isn't worth it. You can get the PvP 2 hander for maybe a grand total of 3 hours of work over 3 weeks. It does the same DPS, and although statted incorrectly for PvE, is still a helluva lot better than IL 346 weapons.
评论来自
706185
For those that hear its bugged and other BS hype, its not a %1 drop nor is there a particular way to get it, %100 rare random. Proof...
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=3469bgo&s=7
评论来自
Enzymexx
Around 1 month and half farming..400 trol solved and no sword. Damn i'm losing my soul, but i never lose the illusion to have this sword. I will keep farming until i have... I'm the most unlucky of this freaky game btw. Congrats to all who got this one
P.C: I think the drop rate is around 0,1% :(
评论来自
266356
58 consecutive troll solves today and nothing. Will update this post daily to give the community another perspective on odds/time to get this sword.
评论来自
616836
For those wondering why this item has such a horrible proc rate, go look at Reclaimed Ashkandi. Zin'rokh is equal to Reclaimed Ashkandi, a 2H sword that drops off Nefarian in BWD. You get this sword and you won't have to worry about replacing your weapon until your raid group starts doing Heroic Cata raids.
lol downrating bots. please don't be upset over a logical explanation for why the proc rate is so bad, unless you think it should be easier to get a weapon equal to what Nefarian drops.
评论来自
776950
Can the same rare item drop more than one time?
I know it is unique, but if i send it to one of my other characters, will it then be able to drop again?
评论来自
779097
A useful macro to speed things up:
/cast Survey
/cast
Bind it to an easy to use key. It helps you to mount immediately after a survey and get to the next point faster.
评论来自
779104
I would like to be proven wrong but doesnt Zin'rokh display "created by..." when a char solves and loots it?
So if this is correct its a crafted or conjured lvl 85 item wich logically means you need to be lvl 85 to create it.
评论来自
773480
well.......just on a whim, since i was in the area, I decided to solve my next troll artifact while standing on the altar at ZG because I had heard a rumor that it might increase your chances of getting the sword. wouldn't you know it? there it was on the next artifact. I am still highly suspicious that location where i solved had any bearing on giving up Zin'rokh but.......I am still pretty stoked. Let me repeat myself, I REALLY don't believe that standing in ZG will help but it was really cool to see it happen.
i don' have archy add-on but i estimate that i've only done about 20-30 troll solves (since hitting 450, of course)!
Cheers and good luck hunting!
评论来自
Bamboo31
Just got mine at 131 solves... my heart skipped a beat when I saw it.
Hang in there guys !
评论来自
33678
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Marriages
评论来自
Chlorure
Another couples of days WASTED by thi pieace of !@#$ profession.
3rd character, over 1300 troll fragment. No ^&*!ing sword.
I hate this @#$%ing game.
评论来自
703757
I started to lvl up my archeology skill for this sword but I didn't read any guide or any comments on forums about it. I solved all kind of artifacts troll, dwarf, night elf and fossil in Eastern Kingdoms and then I go Outland for skill then Nortrend. When i riched 450 skill I started again to farm troll after 90 troll artefacts(including the lvling up to 0-300) I made a ticket to ask a GM about this nice sword. He said to me that it doesn't mather if I started to solve troll artefacts after 450+ skill or not, it doesn't mather how many troll artefacts i have solved in time is just pure luck. There are people who got this sword after 2 or 3 solved artefacts (after 450+ skill), there are people who don't have it after 90 solved artefacts so i realy think is like what the GM told me. I wish you all GOOD LUCK in farming this sword
评论来自
Vexikuri
Just FYI farming with a Mage is much easier for Horde anyways.
Set your hearthstone for Hammerfall
That would allow you to port to Undercity for the very northern areas
Hammerfall hits the Mid areas.
Also able to port to Stonard for the southern areas.
If you survey and it's red, Blink :)
Still working for the Sword, getting the Staff wouldn't be bad either.
评论来自
779809
Another FYI when patch 4.0.6 comes out all race frags are capped at 200.
评论来自
KnightmareX26
Just got mine to pop now. 147 solves, 4263 fragments. I've been in the same boat as many of you the past couple days thinking it doesn't exist but just keep trying. I promise you it is real and when you see it appear, you'll be happy and realize it was all worth it.
评论来自
780528
Ok, so i have been farming troll itmes for 4 days straight. i have completed over 100 commons but only 8 rares. Is Zin'Rokh this impossible to get? It is the only reason i even started to do this pointless profession. I just want this wepon for my tank but it seems that i am unable to get it and am only able to get these useless 30 silver vendor items. Can sum1 t3ell me if this items a super rare or something cuz if it is ima just stope trying as my luck in this game is legendary as being the worst possible...
评论来自
780602
This badboy appeared today, my 394th troll solve.
Solved 12 rares before this one, everything done on one character.
Hang in there, if you really want it, it will appear eventually.
评论来自
561032
Don't count on Patch 4.0.6 to do anything to alliviate the issue with Zin'rokh. The Patch Notes do not address this at all; in fact I've never seen anything from Blizz that acknowledges this is even a problem. The only benefit to archelogy I see in this patch is the doubling of the $$ (at least) you get for the artifacts. So... now insted of getting 5 silver for some of this trash you'll get 10 silver. Big whoop....
评论来自
768537
at 271 solves myself, gets harder and harder to grind every day.
评论来自
780991
It's getting to the point when I see the word Cinnabar, I want to go in my son's room then proceed to systematically destroy each and every Pokemon dvd my wife and I ever bought for him.
评论来自
mstieler
Well, here's my painful (and still failed) story:
I leveled Archaeology as more or less normal on my main (held off on solves til 100 skill, but solved as I went after that). I wasn't thoroughly looking for rares, but pretty happy when they popped up. My totals:
Dwarf: 33
Draenei: 6
Fossil: 30
Night Elf: 22
Nerubian: 3
Orc: 7
Tol'vir: 1
Troll: 54
Vrykul: 2
I'd say 30-40 of the Troll, 15-20 of the Dwarf & Fossil, and 10 of the Night Elf artifacts were post-450. I have yet to get a BoA other than the Orc level 70 one.
So, after reading a few strategies (pushed forward by the fact that 4.0.6 would be dropping soon, making it impossible for me to keep stockpiling Troll Fragments), I leveled my DK's archaeology. I didn't solve any artifacts til 100 skill, and afterwards, only solved the non-troll ones I had. My totals:
Dwarf: 36
Fossil: 21
Night Elf: 5
Troll: 50
Of these, all 50 troll were post-450. None gave me Zin'rokh. I blew through 1400 Fragments and 35-40 Tablets (bought more off the AH once I ran out).
RNG hates me.
评论来自
781404
READ THIS I WILL TEACH YOU THE TRICK OF HOW TO GET IT WITH NO STRESS OR TEARS :D
Hello Everyone I see a lot of people are complaining about how difficult and time consuming it is to get this item ... for me was super easy, the trick ? I'm sure you dont only use ure pc only for wow .. homework, work, and well watching movies ... etc, make wow go into screen mode " to cover 1/4 of ure screen... very tiny, and fly really high after digging a site then aim with the map and autorun... watch ure movie or work like I do + 2 seasons of 2 and a half man :) charlie is funny lol ... took me 3 days to lvl arch from 0 to 525 and get the item and I didnt get stressed or anything cuz I didnt only focused on wow and waited on that long ride to the next diggin site so make it easy on ureself and do other things and u eventually get it thanks for reading I hope this helps
评论来自
561032
929 Solves? How did you keep from having all the life sucked right out of you or throwing yourself out a window? I gave up after hitting 200, and have no intention of going back unless the odds improve with the next patch; which I highly doubt.
评论来自
781493
This sword is amazing, i've been digging ever since i found out about it. I currently have about 75 troll projects solved and nothing yet. Im keeping a positive attitude, i know ill come across it soon or later, i just hope its not going to be 900 solves later :P
A good mod for archaeology that i've been using is called Archy, you can find it on curse.com.
A macro i heard was good to speed things up is /cast Survey /cast but i havent tried it yet.
Anyways good luck to all finding this awesome weapon!
FOR THE HORDE! ZUG LIFE!
评论来自
xxgozitaxx
At 120 solves on my main, got 1500 fragments waiting on my alt. As much as this is frustrating, you guys have to understand this has the stats of the same weapon that drops off the last boss of this current tier of raiding (not counting heroics). Why would they make it easy to get? Granted, the RNG is really stupid, how someone can get lucky and get it within a few solves, while others cant get it with 100s, they should have made a set number, but it is what it is. If you can't handle the grind, then just find a guild, go down nefarian.
评论来自
Vuli
Just so that all knows, in the patch 4.0.6, the patch which is gonna release on this wednesday, some of the grey artifacts which you craft can be sold for 200g+ to vendor. For example
佐伊女皇之令
, this item should be sell-able to vendor for 375g in the upcoming patch, made with Dwarf Fragments. Finally we get some pay-off for the hours we waste trying to get the sword / staff.
评论来自
780991
At 120 solves on my main, got 1500 fragments waiting on my alt. As much as this is frustrating, you guys have to understand this has the stats of the same weapon that drops off the last boss of this current tier of raiding (not counting heroics). Why would they make it easy to get? Granted, the RNG is really stupid, how someone can get lucky and get it within a few solves, while others cant get it with 100s, they should have made a set number, but it is what it is. If you can't handle the grind, then just find a guild, go down nefarian.
I agree it shouldn't be easy to get, however as it is now the sword off Nef is probably easier to obtain. Which doesn't seem right considering there is a chance many of us may not be lucky enough to see Zin 'rokh before this tier rotates out. Just doesn't make sense for a grind to be that brutal. I want the sword for my alt badly so I will keep grinding away, but it's definetly frustrating me. Imagine how my mount feels :P
Good luck!
评论来自
ortonath5656
420 troll solves on one toon 175 troll solves on 2nd toon and =595 troll solves postt 450 and no sward but great i got the stupid dwarf staff.. that i dont need curentley on thrid toon im sitting at 24oo troll frags and probly going to solve pls wish me luck
评论来自
Yugine
Guys , I just want to say - hang on , we can do it. We are THE MEN. We are taming dogs from MC , we are mashing our buttons for the sake of another 24 or 9 people in the raid , we are killing each other for new bracers or a ring. The Man can do it. We can do it! Just hang on and dig that m****erf**cker until it procs!
(300-350 solves between 3 chars)(yeah , sanity lost)
评论来自
776374
I just solved 2700 of my Troll fragments down to about 197 (what can I say, I didn't solve them all as I want some sort of hope this thing will show up after the patch today! I'm desperate) needless to say it didn't proc, however, I did experience the same kind of bug I've seen reported on various posts both on this forum and other Zin'rokh related forums, it jumped my skill level too much.. o.0
I did what I planned, saved ALL my Troll fragments until I hit skill level 450, then solved nothing BUT Troll fragments to finish the profession. I even went to the altar at ZG under some superstition that it would help! However, when I reached 505 the game lagged a little (which it has done in the past when I solved a Fossil and Night Elf rare) and my skill level jumped to 520 after one single common solve - surely this indicated I had discovered a rare yet the game was saying it was a Gahz'rilla figurine? I don't understand.
I now have a long and frustrating wait for the patch to be updated before I can log back on and try the remaining 197 fragments. I also opened a ticket with this issue explained to a GM so hopefully they can shed some light on this situation. Watch this space for updates because by the looks of things I've been screwed over here...
评论来自
bizzarojerry
First time poster here,
I collected 3217 troll frags and 74 keystones, about 3 weeks worth of on and off collection waited till the last 15 minutes before server turn over and then blew them all and of course it didn't proc. I did the same thing you did Indicterion even down to the altar.
I leveled to 375 with only fossils and then when gathering enough fossils and nelf frags as back up I started my run, burned through all the remaining fossils till 420 and then solved a few nelfs as reserve and of course the crappy cloth item proc'd (the one with bad taste and I have that on two characters now) and that pushed me to 450. I then burned all the troll fragments, common after common after common. I knew it after the first few solves that I wasn't going to get it, you either get it early or don't get it at all.
I burned all the troll keystones and still had about 400 frags left so I decided to go all in and burned them all and of course nothing.
The irony is that I still have 2279 dwarf and 67 keystones left for after patch day. I did experience 2 or 3 times my client pausing on a sword item (not zin but the other sword) but I was watching for the keystone slots to go to 3 but I did not see nothing.
I did this as my hunter alt. (78 to 85 through archaeology), I have a paladin main the irony is can't believe I surrendered my life for 3 weeks to a process that is completely non-transparent. They could have a sever based drop modifier and we wouldn't even know it. Can we really be sure, can we ever be sure. I make it a life rule never to gamble never to play a numbers game thinking that I would get addicted to something like pokies, craps or other casino games..... the motto is keep them playing.... the longer they play the longer are their chances to lose and I think WoW is the prettiest casino of them all.
What do we lose..... something for most of us unlucky ones is time.... time... archaeology is the ultimate time sink something for people to SINK no gamble their playtime into in a process all for a few coins, no fame, no glory just some titbits of scrappy poorly written lore . Oh the lament of all the other things one could do with their time even in game time is truly a depressing experience. Games are not meant to make you depressed they are not mean to make you feel uncomfortable or stressed.
Is my life so different from all the other players out there, do we all have the same wants and needs. What is the point of archaeology other than artificial construct to stretch out a expansion where the majority content is finished within the first two weeks of playing and then its the hard grind to try and raid.
I have read the pages and pages forums of victims of their experiences and I now join them but wonder to myself do blizzard read them too, do they think to themselves at all "hey what are we doing to our players out their how are they feeling", how do they sleep at night.....
Because I can tell you tonight I will be thinking to myself what did I do, what could have I done, perhaps more fragments, perhaps more keystones, perhaps this perhaps that but in the end I know one thing .....
I wont be sleeping well tonight...and thank you blizzard for giving me the opportunity to experience that.
评论来自
bizzarojerry
Thank you for your constructive feedback ;-)
And I can assure you my sanity is just fine, but unlike your simple one line answers I was trying to address something more complex than just QQ. Have you ever perhaps considered the remote possibility that it might not be completely RNG at all.
What conditional testing do they undertake in determining who gets Zin your view is oh dear its all the RNG but how is it all the RNG, do you have access the algorithm do you know the requirements in acquiring the sword. What other variables could there be to influence the proc rate. Your saying my sanity is at issue, my reply is your simple mind view that its all RNG is unproven (ignorance is bliss) and ironically nether can mine be discredited.
In the end it all about choice, all of people will say "hey you QQ'd because you undertook the profession in the first place" my reply to that would be, blizzard surely put a lot of carrots on the stick for people to take it up for them to learn the hard way.
They say the consumer has the power of choice but marketing is all influencing and if at all implanting the need for it.
But thanks for the advice on taking the break ;-). But I just wanted to add to the body of information out there that people have to make the time vs returns in investment in something like archaeology. If people knew the real drop rates then they can make a proper and informed choice in the time vs returns equation, notice GM's never talk about them, I wonder why ;-). I see blizzard has noticed this with the "fine tuning" of the profession. It's better to nip the bitter discontent of some of the user base in the bud by trying to placate them with a bit of G but even then they have a long way to go.
You know what they say, 1 good customer words of mouth to 3 others, 1 bad customer words 11. ;-) enjoy archaeology its fun ;-) .... the fresh air is amazing LOL .... now off to work
评论来自
stormhaze
@ Delta340
While I havent tried this method, I can confirm that several times I'll have had one rare pop, then get another before the previous was done. However, and I know this wont be answered yet, how will 4.0.6 affect this little guideline since the cap on fragments will be reduced to 200/topic? No one needs to answer this now, or at least until some in game searching has happened. Right now, I have an alt leveling up his Archaeo and he currently has over 400 troll fragments handy, plus at least 4 troll dig sites ready when I decide to go back to the EK for further farming/leveling. Im hoping to reserve said troll fragments for when he hits 450+, and hopefully get my shot at the sword from that. But given this pattern, i'll be sure not to start solving them until another rare has popped for the others (if at least to test this theory). Wish me luck. :)
评论来自
782256
Latest patch notes on archeology. 2-8-11
Archaeology fragments now have a hard cap of 200 per race. Players will not be able to collect additional fragments until they complete artifacts to take them down below 200 fragments. Players with more than 200 fragments will not lose additional fragments in 4.0.6, but in a future patch we may remove any fragments above 200.
Archaeology finds now grant a guaranteed skill point up to 50 skill, and then no longer grant skill gains, as opposed to granting up to 100 skill very slowly.
The sell value of all common artifacts has been doubled, while a small subset of common artifacts have had their sell value increased far beyond that.
Just thought I'd post this so that someone doesn't try and stockpile troll fragments.
Because you simply can't anymore.
评论来自
trollolol
I find it hard to believe it would be a fact that troll digsites would be dependeable to how much u dig them
given the fact the troll digsites are far more common than dwarf or fossil in eastern plaguelands.
Also that the rare droprate is always 1% no matter how much you dig makes it a coincedence that some people(minority) will be so lucky to get the sword after so few digs. There is no reason to think that the digsites or drops would follow some kind of player-made pattern. it's random. it always has been.
for now i have 147 troll solves 4700 fragments used and i can't even count the hours. during that time i only have 95 dwarf solves and 83 fossil solves.
after all i said i still might be wrong. but i doubt that.
I will keep diggin cos i know the more i dig the better chance i have :=)
评论来自
782427
OK, I had only just started this stock piling of troll artifacts, hadn't used any and i was at 200 skill. I logged in today knowing the patch capped the fragments, but it says you wont lose what you had... that's wrong. i lost all but 200... why? that's crap.
评论来自
172321
I have leveled Arch all the way to 510ish without touching a single Troll fragment. I ended up with 1150 fragments and 39 keystones.
I waited until 4.0.6 hits because I figured it might affect the proc rate or whatever. After 24 Troll solves it procced. Might be luck, might be increased proc rate? Will see what others report after 4.0.6. Also I think I should mention I got it at lvl77.
On the way I got 6 more rares (
mount
,
pet
,
71lvl axe
,
61lvl mail head
,
The Last Relic of Argus
,
Druid and Priest Statue Set
).
Edit:
Screenshot that proves what I said above - dinged 78 since though.
http://oi56.tinypic.com/ajmihe.jpg
评论来自
564845
Most people that read comments regarding this item tend to be curious what other people's stats are. I waited until patch 4.0.6 to hit yesterday and I had about ~1k troll fragments saved up. Zinrokh queued for me as my
40th Troll solve
. I was not expecting it because of the fact that I don't have any plate melee alt so now I am definitely going to level up either a DK or a Warr so this weapon doesn't go to waste.
Best of luck to all the people that's still grinding for this!
评论来自
stormhaze
Here's a bit of interesting news. When your faction fragments are maxed, you can still go to their dig sites and potentially get the "keystones." Was at a troll dig (post 4.0.6), and got 2 Tablets out of the three digs (having 410 fragments saved at the time).
评论来自
purplenugs
I got my sword today. 110 total troll solves. It may just all be luck but ill tell you what i did. I tried farming only troll sites in EK to see if more would spawn. That theory is false, i believe the site spawns are completely random and nothing influences which ones will spawn. Anyways, I'd solved about 100 trolls at 525 and all the while i had the Nelf mirror as my next rare in quene so i decided to farm kalimdor just for the hell of it. got the nelf frags to solve, then solved it. Immediately after solving the nelf rare, i proceeded to solve the rest of my trolls ( had about 150 frags at the time and 2 or 3 troll tabs) solved all of the trolls down to the last one. solved the last one thinking it'd be another lizard foot and BAM, zinrokh popped up. I dont know if it was pure luck or some kind of hidden pattern, but it seems as tho as soon as a rare is solved, the chance for a rare from ANY race increases or resets in some form. Also, I dont know if this is significant, but before getting zin rokh, i had 2 troll duplicate commons in a row, then zin rokh. also at the time it procced i had zero troll tablets. i welcome you all to try it out. let me know what happens - dankpurpnugs - ner zhul
评论来自
763947
To be quite frank, I'm done with this item. Solved around 200 troll artifacts and nothing. On the bright side, I got about 2k from all the commons after the patch, so I guess my two or three weeks were worth about 2000g to Blizzard... my guild is currently on Nefarian, so the sword is right around the corner.
Blizzard created something completely unfair to the player. RNG for every aspect of this item is just ridiculous. They aren't rewarding us for hard work and perseverance, they're rewarding stupid, blind luck. I think I've read ONE story of a player who persevered and got this sword after 300 solves I think it was.
Blizzard needs to fix this profession or soon everyone will just drop this thing out of frustration.
And to anyone who says 'Oh, if you persevere and put in the time, you'll eventually get it.'
No, we all know that isn't true. Same ridiculous chance to get given each solve, you could potentially spend you're entire life trying to find this PoS, and that is just ridiculous. It's not a legendary; it's not even Heroic item level.
Why, then, are people spending equal or more time to get this then Shadowmourne or Heroic raid items took to finally procure?
评论来自
Reclhoss
I did the classic "fossil only till 450 strat" and got 80ish troll solves and no sword. I got to 120ish on my warrior and got depressed. Then I decided to roll a DK for the faster flight speed and deathgate. I only had 970 frags (330 arch) when the patch dropped. This forced me to visit outland.... almost killed myself... got some weird 12hr random destination hearth at 430.. after a few more sites I had 450 and flew to Swanp of Sorrows to begin solving. 39 solves and nothing.
This horrible story is for all the peeps that claim that the drop rate was increased, and/or claim you have a better chance after solving your 2nd rare or any sword after any rare. The RNG is bull^&*! and just shows a complete lack of talent in the warcraft development team. Arch has not only made me decide to quit arch and wow... i'm done w/ bizzard all together... hell i don't need activision either... they can all go to hell.
评论来自
17545
Okay, I'm at 550 troll solves now (post 450 skill) after more than a month of farming and still no Zin'Rokh.
Also haven't got the dwarf staff yet (around 400 dwarf solves).
At least I made 8k gold yesterday by solving 13 000 fragments (6k dwarf, 6k fossil, 1k NE) which i saved until the patch hit.
评论来自
615183
OK to those who have been stockpiling fragments... Might want to rethink it/use them up
Worldofwarcraft.com patch notes mentioned that you will only be able to have 200 fragments of each race at any one time.. for now they havent implemented a hard cap(other then if you are above 200 you cant gain anymore) but in the future they said they will be removing the extras..
SO if you have any fragments you havent used.. might want to use enough to get it down below 200.
评论来自
76539
one question, do we need to have all factions "digged" before we can get the project of (Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds)
评论来自
561032
You know, we've been beating on this dead horse ever since Cataclysm came out. Blizz could end all this speculation with a simple statement as to whether Zin is a totally random drop or not. If it is, as I strongly suspect, we all could make an informed decision on whether we want to farm this thing or not and put this thread to bed. But I guess that would be against company policy.
评论来自
Tripfel
ugh, getting this sword is like trying to win the jackpot on a rigged slot machine.
评论来自
undyingvisage
other DKs going for this. good way to farm for it. start from wherever and make your way too the very south end of EK. once you do all the sites on your way. death gate back too the very north. and do it all over again. advantage heroes again :D
评论来自
mkmurphy25
would it not be viable to have an alt and only arch in EK, never discovering the other races - thus having more of a chance to get this?
评论来自
Carameltoe
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Dreams
评论来自
hawko
I'm finally done with this now, it is just unbelievable %^&*.
And this &*!@ just helped me to realize how this game is not worth to play, so I'm gonna quit and play again some pvp game.
Here is my experience:
DK ->
517
troll artifacts solved.. NO SWORD
Warrior ->
101
troll artifacts solved.. NO SWORD
my girlfriend account (I could have xfer a toon holding the sword eventually, since both the accounts have the same lastname)
Druid ->
80
troll artifacts solved.. NO SWORD
Paladin ->
75
troll artifacts solved.. NO SWORD
and no dwarf staff either lol. (around 500 dwarf solved)
a total of
773 solves
, 1 month and half in the wind, no sword,.
I decided to start archeology because two of my guildmates got the sword after only 33 and 65 tries. I was not expecting, when I started to do this %^&* profession, to get the sword within 100 tries. Not even within 200. I was pretty sure I was going to get it after a couple of weeks of farming so, since I was able to do 30 solves for day, I was certain I would have been able to hold the sword in my hands within 300-400 tries. Ive done nearly 800 #$%^ty common artifacts and nothing, goodbye Wow.
评论来自
745297
Got this after about 200 Troll artifacts. And now of course, no troll digsites are popping up at all....
Also
155 Dwarf solves
110 Fossil solves ($%^&ing fossils)
80 Night Elf solves
评论来自
780036
For all of you wondering how to get this sword. Hop on a mage, who is looking for the dwarven staff. And then by murphy's law the sword will proc. At least it did for me GRRR
评论来自
Butch82
First off, It seems as if there is a % chance for your NEXT solve, not of only 1 race, but just your NEXT solve to be rare. So, after you have uncovered 1 rare, you should stop solving anything but trolls. This guarantee's that your next Rare, will in fact be a Troll, Which is Zin'Rokh.
So if i never solve anything but troll, you guarantee that the next rare will be a troll rare? Wow, that's some impressive logic.
Wait, i can predict even more:
If you from now on never wipe your butt with your left hand, i can guarantee you that the next time you wipe your butt, it will be with your right hand (or the wall of your bathroom)! Impressive, right? Almost magical.
If you meant that working on a rare will block you from getting any other rares to proc, there are easier ways to say that. Like what i just wrote. But i think that is based on superstition too. The whole thing about absence of evidence not being evidence of absence comes to mind.
评论来自
780991
For all of you wondering how to get this sword. Hop on a mage, who is looking for the dwarven staff. And then by murphy's law the sword will proc. At least it did for me GRRR
Hi there. I'm a mage with over 1000 total solves. Of those 1000 solves 300+ are troll, 200+ are dwarf. I have neither the sword or staff.
评论来自
323846
currently at 64 troll solves and no luck yet but gl to all the others trying to get this sword
评论来自
343264
631 troll solves after 450 (tottaly 645 solves). No luck.
Got all dworf, elven, orcs, fossils and some of the others rares.,
Where's a justice? :) I'm waiting for Rick'Roll in the ArchUI.
评论来自
779563
I solved my 110th piece of junk troll and POW. Thar she was.
I had quit arch in 4.06 since archy was busted (the mod). Then someone told me about the fix for it so I got it working last night. My first solve last night is the one that brought me Zin'Rokh as a next project!
On a side note, it looks badass to DW it with Thunderfury . . im a TG War so its perfect! It packs a mean wallop too.
Keep tryin guys, it pops. Eventually.
评论来自
776374
Gratz to that guy above me. I'm sorry to say I'm over twice your solve count and still have nothing to show for it, well, for Troll anyway.
What's had me thinking these last few days, (since there really isn't much else to do when flying from digsite to digsite) is do Blizzard think that this profession is actually going to keep people entertained for much longer, without making some drastic changes? For example, my rare count stands at:
3 NE rares: the Mirror, the Wind Chimes and the Priest and Druid Statue
3 Dwarf rares: Clockwork Gnome, Chalice and Innkeepers Daughter
2 Fossil rares: The Fossilzed Raptor and the Hatchling
Now, aside from the raptor which has some (questionable) value to it, do any of these items actually add anything to my character progression or help give me an edge in any way? Short answer, no. Even the Innkeepers Daughter shares a CD with my own hearthstone, making it frankly useless. On top of that I get a green beam of light from the statue, a 10 second dance from the chalice and some novelty from the pets. It just makes me think why have I wasted my time on this stuff? It doesn't even have a vendor price :-/ it's almost as if Blizzard purposely made these things to rub it in your face that you've wasted hours digging for artefacts that do nothing.
Now before you think this is me throwing my toys out of the stroller, I'm just suggesting that given a finite amount of time to dig for something useful, maybe a new trinket they bring in, a new chestpiece or (pray to God) Zin'rokh, instead of basing everything on an RNG system, Archaeology could be a much better profession and more
enjoyable
for the player, which, as a subscriber we are ultimately paying for.
I've spent enough time ranting on this page alone to bring up any other views I have, I hope this is the last one until I finally get this thing, but I'm reaching my wits end now.
(and Inb4 "get some fresh air", I do, everyday I walk to work and back lol. But I still find myself hunting this item every evening. 290 solves, nothing yet...)
评论来自
17545
Currently at 570 troll solves (post 450 skill), still no sword..
I've actually given up. Still solving each day but just not as many anymore. Used to do 30-40 solves/ day, now I'm just solving like 3-5 day..
If Zin'rokh would proc, It'd be a nice bonus but I'm no longer gonna dedicate 12+ hours/day of farming for this sword.
All hope is gone for me, just gonna move on...
评论来自
787038
I've been chasing this item for about a week 2-3 hours a day and can confirm that method of troll only digging and solving is just that a method. archaeology uses a totally random number generator just like most of you swings and things so it's just luck. that being said luck to me can be improved ie i'm a fisherman in real life and i have a lucky hat, i never count the fish in the cooler, and i will move to another spot if i lose a fish. again a method to a "random" event. i will nearly always out fish my guest/friends. if you dig all the troll sites and only dig other sites to pop troll spawns you will have more troll items therefore more checks from troll archaeology list. i also let my wife or daughters press solve button in hopes their luck will be better than mine. it makes my six year old quiver with anticipation. so happy digging and rub that lucky rabbit's foot!
评论来自
Maori719
Zin'rokh just showed up in my queue, working on completing it as we speak.
* I'm at 190 troll solves, ~5510 fragments, POST 450.
* It appeared as a project at the Eastern Zul'Mamwe site.
* It will be my 8th rare (Dwarven staff, Fossil mount, Fossil pet, Innkeeper's Daughter, Clockwork pet, Chalice of the Mountain Kings, and Highbourne Soul Mirror).
* I surveyed exclusively in Eastern Kingdoms as Alliance, bound in Stormwind.
* All done on a singular character.
My advice to those still seeking it is to try and detach yourself from it. Try not to care so much about whether or not this next solve will be it. The emotional toll it takes every time you see that damn planter instead of Zin, is too high. When I finally stopped caring, things became so much easier .. I was making decent gold doing it casually while watching TV. And when the sword finally did pop up, I didn't even notice at first. Needless to say, a few sites later when I realized, I shat bricks.
Keep at it, just don't let it consume you. You'll eventually get rewarded for your efforts .. It's up to you whether or not you'll have to seek psychiatric help when all is said and done.
评论来自
787463
Blizz needs to fix arch.
now that theres a cap there it is going to take literally forever jsut to get a shot at this sword. solved 100+ and with reading all these pessimistic posts im beginning to give up and just not care. arch has literally given me nothing of value......just a false hope that its going to proc.
they should make an increasin percentage of drop rate once you hit 100, 250, 500, 750, and 1000 solves per race. otherwise this whole profession is a crapshoot and really a waste of time. probably designed to reel players in for longer but in actuality it bring nothing to the table, and frustrates you till u wan to never play again. once people realize this and wise up im confident they will fix this broken profession.
评论来自
izmirstinger
Just got it about an hour ago, horde ret pally, 161 digs.
No particular strategy utilized, just moving up and down eastern kingdoms.
Did not save any troll fragments from when I was initially leveling it up.
A good tip if you haven't already been doing is to join a guild that has the level 8 hasty hearth guild perk available (or be a mage). Depending on which area of the continent has a more concentrated cluster of dig sites, I will take either the blasted lands portal(for southern region), or the twilight highlands portal (closer access to northern region) and then just fly up or down to which ever end the digsites move me towards... hearth and then start from the opposite end. Usually by the time I go from the portal entrance to the last digsite on that polar region, my hearth cooldown is up....so it ended up working perfectly for me.
Also would like to mention that you CAN have two rares (possibly more) going at the same time. I had a Nerubian rare (Blessing of the gods) at the same time when zin'rokh popped up for me.
For those of you who feel like giving up, trust me I was almost there several times. This is a poorly designed profession that is SLOW and BORING, and highly discouraging.....probably the biggest time waster in the whole game...but just stay determined. I took it easy by only doing about an hour each day and then calling it quits.
To those still digging, hope any of this helps, and good luck!
评论来自
709336
Pro tip to death knights, use your shadow gate and go fron north to south over and over again.
评论来自
myslead
ever since I've read about this weapon I've been wanting to have it... the problem was that archeology was tedious and boring... I had it up to around 200 since Cata came out and I really got into it yesterday where I raised it from 200ish and finally capped it at 525 today. around my 60th solve total, what did I get? yup you've guessed it, this sword. boy oh boy was I happy.
I completed this feat by digging the Eastern Kingdom from north to south stacking Dwarves, Fossils, Trolls and a little of NE, but only solving Trolls... I had to clear my Dwarves and Fossils fragments once due to cap, but apart from that it was straight Trolls.
you can check my profile to see the activity feed :) I guess I got pretty lucky.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/skullcrusher/mprov/feed
the moral of the story... never give up and stay positive! ahah
评论来自
141200
Enyone got the sword as a project at 200+ troll solves? , i would like to know , just to get some hope for it , thanks :)
评论来自
builderpainter
Anyone had this proc before level 80? If they have was it before or after 4.0.6
评论来自
352477
Met a guy on my server who had the sword. I asked him how many times it took him and he said 2. I asked if he had saved troll fragments until he was 450 before he solved he said he got Zin'Rokh as his next solve at 370. I told him about a screenshot of a GM saying that indeed 450 was minimum required and he said he got it at 370 and that it's indeed just random.
Can anyone else confirm this?
评论来自
789081
First time poster here, long time reader...
Just wanted to share my 2 cents(or 3 actually) on this topic. In actuality I created my account here just to post on this specific topic, as I too have been hunting this sword for longer than I can remember and reading the posts here since around post 20th or so...
For the 1st cent I´ll buy a bit of ranting!
This is properly the most illconcieved, dreadfully thoughtout and horribly excecuted proffesion ever! I simply cannot fanthom how on earth Blizz could ever think that this proffesion would be fun, the way its screwed together atm...
Basically, we got a proffesion that offers "cute" little novolty toys and gadgets, which is all good and well, but then they went and added some precious few, ridiculously powerful items with a horribly low drop/proc rate that basically sucks all the enjoyment outta the proffesion...
I mean, how did they think it was going to play out..? Blizz is fully aware that there are plenty of hardcore players out there who would just be drooling down their cheeks for a shot at these item, but they made them nigh-impossible to get, leaving these die-hard players with nothing but a carecup P full of salty tears as they try to grind their way to these items...
Dont get me wrong, Im all for making them crazy-hard to get a hold of(for reasons that should be clear to all), but making them THIS hard to get is just stupid beyond belief..!
These few items and the search for them, really takes all the fun outta the whole proffesion, because all the other items which were surpossed to be fun to get, just becomes annoying and irritating, effectively making the whole deal REALLY counterproductive!
Either you make these few items more optainable in some way, say.., alot of hard work and skill put into it or you dont add these items to the proffesion in the first place..! This rng-crap is just retarded in so many ways, that I lack the proper words for it!
For my 2nd cent, I´ll buy some shoulder-padding!
This thread is basically the only thing that kept me up and running through the whole thing, as I imagine it does for many other Zinboys(and girls) out there...
The fact that I could come here after yet another day spent, failing to optain this sword and read more or less 10 new posts from other people who were in the same boat as me, is just very, very soothing... To know that there are many people out there that shares your fate(and faith for that matter) really makes the whole grind that much less painful...
It is also good to know that there are actually people out there that has aquired the sword, thus showing everybody that it really can be done and that its not just a cruel myth.
For instance, it was really a big, BIG help to read that some people had gotten the sword to proc even after the woodoo doll bug, aswell as it was good to hear that some had gotten it to proc after 300+ solves... This really helps people(at least it did for me) to continue the hunt, as the various fears of bugs, un-optainabillity(is that even a word?) and superstitions is put to the ground... This thread really made a difference for me and for that I thank you all...
For my 3rd cent, I think I´ll buy myself a few lines to add some suggestions!
Please Blizz, please, for the love of all that´s good and furry, PLEASE remove that incredible retarded digsite at Wyrms Bend in TH! Having to face off against 3-5 mobs with 100k hp, just to dig up yet another fugly dwarven jar full of crap is stupidity incarnated! And that´s not even mentioning the 5-man patrol´s that roam around the place..!
And that place in STV has simply got to go too! To finally get a digsite in STV after half an hour playing the lead-role in "Joe-Bob goes farming for dirt-mounds in WP", only to realise its that malicious raptor-nest that passes itself off as a fossil-site, is just disheartning to the extreme..! All the other places in STV are troll-sites with the sole exception of this one. It stinks to high heaven of cruel Blizz-jokes!
And please, I beg you Blizz, please add a bit more hard cash for commons! I realise that a pair of Crusty Dwarven Baby Socks might not be the biggest seller on the archeology-table, but I was at a point where my bags was so full of Smolderthorn Idols and Skullshaped Planters that I could easily have opened up shop as a traveling halloween-merchant! The upgrade in cash in 4.0.6 was idd nice, but still very far from enough... Adding a bit more cash to the commons will certainly not make this proffesion a prime market for gold-farming and it would reduce the agony of it all by miles..!
And can we please get some other method of performing the actual survey than simply flying from a to b to c..! I must confess I honestly dont have another valid suggestion on how this may be accomplished, but as it stands now one is in real danger of losing grip on ones sanity when flying back and forth to the same places over and over and over again! Several times I simply had to put the search on hold for a few minutes while I went around and killed every single lamebrain troll, gnoll or black whelps i could find... All in pure rage over having to fly 70 miles back to the very same spot I had just visited 30 secs ago!
Between that and getting 4 fossil and 9 dwarf-sites in a row, getting ganked by a filthy ally clad in full raid-epics, stormed 3 times by 100k hp patrols and seeing a level 78 goblin dk tank with Zinny on his back running past you whispering; "Ahahahahaha, fail you, rofl", your inner rage-meter starts to tick real fast..!
Anyways, that was my 3 cents. Dont know it is was of any use or just plain useless, but ever since I started this blasted hunt for this broken shard of a cursed troll-sword, I swore that if I ever found it, I would at the very least come back here and make a post for all you great people in here that has made my search for it a hell of alot more bearable... Below I have posted my data on finding it.
Good luck to all you Zinboys and girls out there trying for this sword. I really, really hope that it will happen for you, cause you all deserve it... I hope to see many more posts in here continuing this great and awesome thread...
Oh, and btw, people like you Beefwall, you all need to die and go to hell, because such unconstrutive, pathetic bull!@#$ you just spammed in here is so retarded its beyond any meaning or understanding...
Baálthazor
Level 85 Tauren
Arms Warrior
Sporregar Realm, EU
93 troll solves, 79 past 450 skill
No sword
Baàlthazor
Level 85 Tauren
Unholy DK
Sporregar Realm, EU
105 troll solves, all past 450 skill
Sword procced as nr. 105 troll solve! Location, just outside Gurubashi Arena, STV!
Total troll solves, 184!
评论来自
bbeckley
Worst Dice every.
For the one who gave the script that suggest the percent you have the sword by now. thanks
however. 338 Solves, 81.6% chance to have found the sword by now.....
Destroyer of the mind.
评论来自
AmazingGregor
Just got this one after 382 solves :S
评论来自
789387
Wanna hear something that really pissed me off? Saw a warrior with two of these.
评论来自
Nuritziel
Percent Script?
评论来自
776374
Congratulations on your find. A deserved member of the Zin'rokh club I'm yet to be a member of. From the content of your post I can gather you know the frustration as much as the rest of us in hunting down this sword. For you my friend you've won, you've reached your Mount Doom and can cast Archaeology into that fiery pit never to be used again! I only wish I could do the same.
Analogies and metaphors aside, I found your post heartening to read, mainly because everything you said is what I've been wanting to say for the last month. I can't add much to it because it highlights how we
ALL
feel here. it
IS
a broken profession, I don't think anyone (even those now lucky enough to be wielding this sword) will disagree with me. Something needs to be done about it. I do in fact have two separate suggestions to fix it, or at least make it easier on us grinders:
1. Put a finite amount of solves on this sword. 1000, 1500 even 2000 if you must, just remove the damn RNG mechanic. I pointed this out in an earlier post that I am an avid grinder of this weapon, at least 6-7 hours a day going to digsites, and now due to the 200 frag cap, I'm averaging about 30 solves a day. Thats roughly 50 days of farming, 1.5 months. Could I reach Nefarian in that time and have a shot at Reclaimed Ashkandi - Zin'rokh's raid equivalent? most definitely I could. Give the people that choice. Take out the random factor so hard working diggers actually get something out of the work they've put into this.
2. Make Archaeology into a questline based profession, to add to the feel of uncovering ancient artefacts. Don't make it all about revisiting tired old sites and digging in the same spot for hours at a time, give me something interesting to look at rather than wonder which color the surveying tool will show me next time -.-.
Anyway, I've added what I can. It won't weigh anything at all to where Blizz decides to go with this profession, but I've added my 2 cents to your 3, so now we have 5c worth of player feedback for Blizzard here. Hey, maybe they'll take that 5c off my subscription this month as a reward for farming this long...no? yeah I didn't think so either...
Good luck everyone.
评论来自
789525
Got this to solve while farming for Tol'vir items.I only done 33 troll artifacts before I got this, and last 3 before this sword was done by digging Kalimdor.
评论来自
730724
Over 750 troll solves now + 14 days of only doing dailies and farming troll artifacts still no drop...
It is depressing, cos it will be useless in a patch or two, but I spent this long farming I aint giving up on it yet!
But... seriously 750+ troll solves and nothing, takes the pizzle don't it? :((((
评论来自
Nuritziel
Where do you get this percent script?
评论来自
789928
Is it possible to get two of these? just wondering because I think it would be awesome for a fury warrior with Titan's Grip
评论来自
773309
For you guys that are over 250-300 solves without getting it, do you always or almost always use a Keystone/Troll Tablet (when a slot is available) to solve?
I myself have done all my 506 Troll solves using a troll tablet when a slot is available. I'm now wondering if somehow, someway there is a bug associated with using a keystone and getting the rare proc. Yes, I'm losing my mind and grasping at straws.
评论来自
linkhyrule
Once every day I save up 200 troll frags and try to see if I can get the sword, while making 500-700g on the side. Im going to wait til 4.1.0 and if I don't have this sword by that time, Blizzard better make it easier to get or Im not going to not even bother trying to get this sword anymore. Cuz by 4.1.0 there will for sure be better weapon more worth my time to get. The amount of effort to get this sword is trippled the mount it toke to get the Shadowmoure.
评论来自
stormhaze
Hey guys, got an update here . . . not sure if it might be a coincidence. I've noticed that when farming for this item, I'd be going to the EK sites, and solving what/when I can. Oddly, I've begun to notice that while farming there, I've gotten a lot of my NE rare solves (5/7 of their rares collected thus far). About each time a rare has popped, it's been in the EK grind (and their stuff only appears in one site there). If this is a valid pattern, I'm going to grind in Kalimdor for a while and see what pops (after gathering a bit more troll items first).
评论来自
790299
Just got this after about 5 days of farming fragments.
I stayed exclusively in EK. I took a level 80 fury warrior to level 83 just farming.
Due to 200 fragment cap I solved mainly dwarf, night elf and fossil, only solving the occasional troll to bring me back under the cap level. I had 445 xp so went to trainer. After training to illustrious I solved rare dwarf "chalice of the mountain kings", this took me to 460 so I started solving my stored troll fragments. After solving only
FIVE
more troll commons this sword appeared in my book!
On the way I also picked up a "clockwork gnome", a "fossilised hatchling" and a "fossilised raptor mount" rares.
I must be the luckiest Assistant Professor ever!
评论来自
jahf
Short but sweet:
there is NO way to
force
any rare to proc.
If you are hunting a specific rare you -CAN- influence WHICH rare procs by only solving from that race's artifacts. That means that Zin is easiest to influence since you only have one Troll rare.
Observations:
This means you will absolutely have to lose artifacts from other races once you cap them if you want to be stubborn about only solving Trolls until this procs. And you will waste time since you still need to gather those artifacts (which, once you cap 200 of them, you won't be gathering) to open up Troll digsites.
I did notice that the number of troll digsites got a bit better once Dwarf and Fossil were capped, however both Dwarf and Fossil still popped enough to be a big hassle.
However it does seem to me that the way the rare proc works is to progressively check -each- rare of that family to see if it procs. In other words, rather than doing a solve and the system rolling 100 to see if you proc at all ... it seems to roll 100 and if no rare procs but there are -other- rares, it checks them in order. I say this because Night Elf rares (7 of them) popped VERY frequently at first but once I had solved a few the rares seemed to come up far less frequently and the final rare came up very long after the 6th one.
If that's true then you're BOUND to get Nelf rares or Dwarf rares to proc more often than Troll. Because each Troll solve only gets a 1% chance to proc whereas (until you've done a few of them) Nelf rares have 1% chance per rare. And it also means that the second you get 450 Archaeology, if you want Zin'rokh badly enough, you should not solve -any- other race so that every solve, when it rolls for your proc, goes towards 1% chance on your sword. Solving other races won't actually reduce your chance to proc Zin, but it -will- save you the time of doing the others.
Take it from someone who was a bit dumb and solved everything for a while before deciding to focus. I now have -every- common artifact, 19/20 rares, and every achievement done except for 'Professor'. And all I -really- cared about was the sword.
评论来自
790407
So...why will this sword be obsolete in the next patch?
评论来自
730724
Well I am now over 800 troll solves since my last post, and I have 13 rare drops in total 12 of which are from EK.
And still no freaking drop!
I mean 800 solves is alot anyway, but I am talking 800 troll solves only, dwarf is 350+ fossil is 400+ and Nelf is like 100 (ish).
This prof is a proper slag, I only want one drop from it and the game seems to know this and will not give it to me! :(
As ever... I aint giving up till it drops now, I have put too much in to stop now!
(BTW - that equates to over 14 days solid Arch + daily BG and TB's)
评论来自
krist
Dwarf-97
Fossil-74
Nightelf-47
Nerubian-7
Troll-145
I just received my Zin'Rohk project
评论来自
Malekith
Just thought I'd add my thoughts.. I've been after this sword for a little while. Nothing too serious, but I'd be lying if I said I hadn't spent days at a time solving. I would rage but it really isn't worth it. True, the profession is awfully designed, and blizz really didn't think it through as well as they should have. On the other hand, however, it seems clear that the sword itself was not designed to be farmed for. I would say that the profession was probably implemented into the game as something for people to do in their spare time, and the sword is just one of those typical WoW items that you really do need luck on your side to attain (think legendaries).
I wish it wasn't like this. I wish there was a way of making it so that players who put sufficient effort in were rewarded with it, but if that were the case pretty much everyone would have it.
Obviously those who stick at it will (eventually) be rewarded, but personally I have now decided to give up, as I'd rather not waste my time. Everything about the profession is far too RNG-oriented and I don't even think it'd be worth it even if I knew for sure I'd get it after another week of farming. It'd be replaced next patch regardless, and even PuGs are gonna be able to down Nef fairly soon anyway. In short, in a lot of cases the juice is worth the squeeze, but in this case I think I'll settle for just water thanks.
评论来自
lonefur
Funny but... when i try to equip Zin'rokh on my 84 paladin, it says: "You must be
82
level to equip this item".
评论来自
Tripfel
i know this is a newb question.....but one must learn somehow
what does RNG stand for
as far as i can tell from above comments does it means the chances the sword will "proc"?
correct me if i am wrong plz :)
评论来自
311337
Got a horror story for you all. Ill save u my sob story and just cut to the point: I have been farming for this sword since January with countless troll solves under my belt. Today I went on a frenzy and farmed for 14 hours straight. Just now I was getting close to what was going to be my final 200 for the night before I was ready for bed. I solved 2 troll artifacts and BAM, a project popped up that took 140+ troll frags to complete! I was ecstatic......... and then I looked up and it was that stupid Eerie smolderthon idol.WTF! 145 and some tablets for this stupid grey that I get every other solve? I feel like I hit a glitch and am now scared that this was suppose to be zin'rokh. If this is the case I am now screwed and now have absolutely no hope of getting Zinny. In the end I am beginning to wonder if I ever had a chance.... sigh :*(
评论来自
141200
Everyone in my realm that got this sword so far , are only those that have find it while lvl up this profession from 450-525 , or in just less than 100 troll solves , looks like this project comes too early for some lucky people , and for most of the others (including me) it just don't want to apear in the archaeology book that easily :( , keep trying people , don't let the RNG to beat us !
评论来自
zarbuchan
Kind of fuzzy on the Vashj'ir hotfix from about two months ago since I haven't been grinding Arch since my initial sprint for 450. Do Vashj'ir digsites not occur
at all
now? Is it only at 525?
Is there any reason I should want to train up past skill 450? It seems like the addition of a zone like Twilight Highlands would just impede on my progress.
EDIT: Well, looks like I already get Twilight Highlands...
评论来自
GBcommander
Wow, the some of you who farm this for hours at a time while doing nothing else, amaze me lol. I could never do that and would probably die from boredom. What I do is just use it as filler while waiting for 30 minute dungeon and 15 minute bg queues :P
评论来自
761723
this is just a thought, well theory but is it possible that by solving rares, you increase your chance by finding other rares? its because now that you won't be able to find that rare any longer, then everything else gets clumped up at the 100 of the roll, including and especially the rares.
I personally have solved everything, because I think by finding rares you increase your chance with finding everything else, even by minimal every bit is appreciated.
评论来自
trollolol
Just wondering how does RNG work. is it that it generates the random number for the character's items beforehand, and it stays the same through all times? and solving is kinda roll 1-100 and i if it hits the item u want is yours?
because if it is like this i might consider trying to forget the fossil solves to not to lose the winning roll... dunno. just a thought
评论来自
xeiron
So... *sigh* theres no way to get this sword again due to the new 200 cap fragment ....
Ahh... good riddance, i'm a tank anyway
评论来自
Astrani
Look at this stuff, isn’t it neat?
Wouldn’t you think my collection’s complete?
Wouldn’t you think I’m the belf, the belf who has… everything?
Look at this bone, look at these rocks!
Look at this ring and these crusty dwarf socks!
Look in my bags and you’ll think, “Sure, he’s got everything.”
I’ve got fossils and scepters a-plenty
Bodacious door knockers galore
You want scimitar hilts? I’ve got twenty!
But who cares? No big deal. I want more….
I wanna carry the biggest sword
Brandish my epeen, and pad the meters!
Running around with that… what’s that word again?
Oh — deeps.
Flailing a knife doesn’t get you far
Give me a big sword, I’ll make big numbers
Strolling around being… what do you call it?
LEET!
I will be tough! Tougher than stone!
I want a big effing sword set to PWN!
Wish I could find,
Going to grind
Me a Zin’rokh.
评论来自
Dreadmight
Just opened this research project up on my shaman. This will be my 86th troll solve, and my 20th rare, after being 19/20 for the better part of two weeks. 'Happy' isn't a strong enough word.
评论来自
Tripfel
2 words.
HARD CORE FARMERS
评论来自
godmachine06
Finally got it! The bull$%^& flag that is. I am waving it at Blizzard as we speak. stop counting after 200 solves.
评论来自
793491
140th solve i got it i got the staff after 20 trust cause i didnt want it
评论来自
630650
361 solves finally got it.
only thing that may help your chances is saving up to 200 before solving em all. standing on altar in ZG pointing in random directions while hopping on 1 foot is useless. finally showed up for me on my 3rd solve in a set of near 193 artifacts somewhere in hinterlands.
评论来自
793830
As soon as we did not have an official blizzard's statement about how you can increase your odds to win
Zin'rokh
there is no strategy to gain it faster. It is just clear luck. The possibility to obtain this sword has no dependancy on solving other artifacts. Math theories can support this argument and prove that all those strategies (above) are nothing but unbased assumptions.
评论来自
343264
Today has conversation with <GM> about this sword.
Question #1: Is there any difference in the place or continent of digging to increase chance of "proc"?
Answer: No, there's no difference.
Q #2: Did Zinny depend on the value of solved rares?
A: No.
Q #3: Is there any guaranted value of commons to solve this sword? For example 1000.
A: No, chance for "proc" is small and rolls each time, when you solve art.
Sorry for my english. It's not my native lang.
评论来自
789081
Congratulations on your find. A deserved member of the Zin'rokh club I'm yet to be a member of. From the content of your post I can gather you know the frustration as much as the rest of us in hunting down this sword. For you my friend you've won, you've reached your Mount Doom and can cast Archaeology into that fiery pit never to be used again! I only wish I could do the same.
Like I said, I dont think anyone in here(whether they have actually found Zinny or not) has any doubt at all that this is idd a broken proffesion, and I dont have any doubt that people are actually getting extremely frustrated on their hunt for it, but I do have many doubts that anyone out there has an anymore clear, imaginative or constructive critism about obtaining Zinny that you Sir, as you have idd said all that needs to be said... If anyone new to this proffesion looking to search/grind their way to this weapon and looking under your post, still desires to try and get it, they are idd either foolhearted or very, VERY bored...!
(And good luck to you my friend, where ever you might be!)
评论来自
158888
Just got this as troll solve number 64...
I have just done this for about an hour a day for the past month. (did the usual.. save all the troll parts and started solving at 450)
评论来自
795105
Got 3 troll fragments per dig for 7 times in a row. What kind of rng is that? Clearly it's something bugged. I think that the proc on some rare items sometimes (or often?) gets bugged and always the same numbers roll, therefore there are times when you never gonna get this. I'm giving up.
评论来自
18814
Description says: "if the Destroyer of Worlds has returned, perhaps the Soulflayer is not far behind."
Patch notes for 4.1 include: "The Return of Zul'Gurub and Zul'Aman"
Guess this is what the description was referring to. ;)
评论来自
795287
The average of people getting assigned for this sword is after around 200-250 troll solves (450+). From this information it is quite simple to find the exact chance per solve. 1/225 which is 0,44% chance per troll solve. Now dont think you are going to get it for sure after 225 solves. Its RNG, the evil thing that made me quit wow. Anyways after 225 solves you have a 50% that you have the weapon. After 450 solves you have a 75% chance. 675 solves you have 87,5%, hopefully you see the system now :)
评论来自
527874
Sweet weapon, however...
Unless you are a hardcore collector, trying to show off just how much you can grind, or this is a BiS weapon for you, i would not specifically grind it. The worm-breaker drops off Magmaw, the first boss of BWD, and since the adds on that boss are usually taken down by ranged, you probably won't have too much competition.
But that's one sweet looking sword
评论来自
795911
been after this for a few weeks now. to make it enjoyable just turn on a tv, DL the addon archy, and vent with some buddies. i refuse to give up on this and am going to get some surefire answers from a GM on this sword to stop all this nonsense. will repost once they respond, and when i do get my sword. as to the rest of you, GL!
评论来自
561032
To the guy who hit seven dig sites in a row with 3 fragments:
I just got nine 3-fragment sites in a row; and am still counting. Maybe Blizz thought the effort to get Zin wasn't quite tough enough. ;-)
评论来自
hoothoot
Just got the sword on the second character I've leveled Archaeology at 515.
I gave up after about 130 troll solves on my first toon (a paladin), and started leveling my druid from 80 with just archaeology.
Let me just say having leveled archaeology on two toons, if you have a druid do this profession on it. It's so much faster being able to fly instantly with druid flight form as you collect each fragment.
评论来自
664059
I know that i got the Fossil Pet then the dwarf cup one after the other ... and i think Skill lv is in volved with what rares will pop up
评论来自
797159
Bull. Been spending my precious time farming this for awhile now, nothing. Over 150 troll artifacts made, keep getting lame a** dwarf and fossil ones, which i no longer solve and still no sign of this, im ready to just give up, i see all these noobs on my server with it and in my brother's guild who spend absolutely no time on archaeology but get lucky its so BS. Man they should let me turn my old zin'rokh into this one :(
评论来自
667506
Over 200 troll solves and counting.
I really hate hearing about people getting it on their third or fourth solve.
评论来自
797508
My Story:
I started archaeology on my main (dk) one weekend about a month ago. Eastern kingdoms only. I played all weekend around 30 hours or so, saved up all troll fragments over 1500. Solved them all after 450. no zin'rokh.
Grinded many long hours throughout the next ~ 1 to 2 weeks. no zin'rokh
I started a new dk on another server ~ 2 weeks later. Did the same; played all weekend this time around 1800 fragments. Was the morning of patch 4.0.6 and didn't want to take any chances of losing fragments to the 200 fragment limitation or any other hidden changes after the patch. Solved all after 450. no zin'rokh.
At this point I was discouraged and only did archaeology on my main anywhere from zero to two hours a day max. My guild was about to start nefarian who drops the same sword (stats wise), and i figure my chances of getting the nefarian sword in the next month was good. But i still tried for zin'rokh when i was bored just in case.
On 2/26/2011: I was feeling bored and decided to put in an hour or so on archaeology as usual. This is about as long as i can go before having to press Esc+Exit Game. After hitting my 7th consecutive troll site my curiosity was peaked; my troll streak continued to 11 consecutive troll sites. This has never happened before. I was feeling that maybe it was a sign. After my streak ended. I headed over to ZG and stood on the altar in the center of ZG. I pressed the solve button and the next project was:
ZIN'ROKH!
(first troll solve on the altar)
I just sat in my chair stunned. I simply could not believe it.
My mind started to race. I better not close the project window or else i might lose the project! Quick let me plug some tablets in the sockets to make sure the game registers my zin'rokh. Oh wait i just had 11 troll sites in a row, YES! i have enough fragments to solve it right now! I hit solve and verified the sword was in my bag; jumped out of my chair making some cheering sounds. My Fiancée in the other room knows immediately from my exclamations; I got my zin'rokh. She comes running and start to cheer and congratulate me.
The End
Since I have used all your posts as therapy to help keep my sanity on the grind for this sword. I think it's only fair i return the favor, by sharing my story. I'm not really the type to post on forums, but grinding for this sword was quite F'ing ridiculous, and without your posts i might not have made it. Hopefully someone will be encouraged by this post and get zin'rokh in a few more solves.
My total troll solves all after lvl 450 is: 251.
I am not a superstitious person. I am not suggesting the ZG alter made it happen for me.
I went to the ZG altar because I've read several posts on this forum suggesting it may help. After 249 solves and no zin'rokh, I said to myself. What do I have to lose by going to the ZG altar for all my troll solves?
Tips:
1. Take advantage of guild perk for faster mount speed.
2. Set your hearthstone to middle of Stranglethorn Vale.
3. Use "potion of deepholm" + "Baradin's Wardens Tabard" + "shroud of cooperation" + "wrap of unity" to access stormwind and it's portals.
4. use "death gate" if you are a dk (huge advantage)
5. not sure how much difference it makes, but i tried to do troll sites as soon as one shows up.
6. "Archaeology Helper" addon used with "GatherMate2" addon data is a must have. Showing you exactly where to stand to dig up fragments. less guess work, means less time per dig site.
评论来自
797910
Hey all,
Just got my Zin'rokh lastnight after farming it for 4 days for about 3-4 hrs each day. I followed Delita340's instructions on day 4 and I couldn't believe my luck. All, in all I solved about 45 Artifacts.
I did not find the dig site info to be accurate in my experiences, however the idea to only solve troll artifacts worked an absolute charm. Apologies to anyone who has been farming this weapon for weeks on end, only to find my somewhat lucky post. But I definately recommend trying the strat posted by Delita340. It worked a charm for me . :)
Thanks and Goodluck to all who want this weapon bad enough to deserve it. :)
评论来自
sneakattack
Just wondering if you need to solve a minimum number of artifacts from some or all of the other races before the BoA items will drop? Has anyone discovered an epic BoA without solving all at least one common, uncommon, or rare from all the other races?
评论来自
446323
Warrior here...
Farmed this damn sword on two characters (doing the save Troll artifacts until 450+ "trick" pre 4.06). No idea how many Troll solves, but many and no sword. In the end I gave up Archaeology to spare my sanity.
Instead I went to the Bastion of Twilight and picked up a
Soul Blade
from the trash then purchased another from the AH for 13K gold. I now have two epic 1h swords and currently Single Minded Fury is supposedly performing better than Titan's grip. I only wish I had done this prior to wasting many hours on Archaeology for nothing more than a few hundred gold and unwanted (and often useless) rares.
So, fellow Warriors (and Frost DKs), spec Single Minded Fury (or Dual Frost) and go get a couple of the far more easily obtainable Soul Blades. You can use the time you would have wasted doing Archaeology, doing mining, skinning, herbing, etc instead,so you can pay for the Soul Blades on the AH if the loot Gods do not favour you in BoT!
评论来自
798524
Just would like to say I've just passed post-450 Troll Solve #300 with no sword. There should be an achievement for that or something!
评论来自
Enzymexx
around 600 trol solves and NOTHING... 500 dwarf and 300 fosil aprox. I read someone saying if you're melee you got 1% chance , and if you aren't you got 70% chance.. thats true? i will comprobe it, in a few days. This sword ruins my soul and im questioning why the f...k im playing in this freak game. Sorry for my english its low, regards from spain >:)
评论来自
possumshake
My enthusiasm when i reached 450 arch is nowhere to be found ..
评论来自
soylentr3d
I'm currently at:
707 Troll solves (no Zin'rokh), and 617 Dwarf solves (no staff)
I'll keep this updated and post every hundred or so solves. Hopefully I find it soon. : )
UPDATE:
I finally found it! 737 troll solves. I'll reiterate what a lot of people are saying..... It'll pop. Eventually. I went from 80-85 exclusively through archaeology. I then added 14 days and 15 hours post-85 on nothing but flying around the Eastern Kingdoms. I've seen every episode of the Wire, Party Down, The Office, Parks and Recreation, Community, X-Files, and Almost all of Stargate SG-1 just from leveling this profession. Was it worth it? I don't know I haven't had a chance to use the sword yet. I doubt this much effort was really warranted, and still believe they should either make a minimum or maximum number of solves to get it. (In my opinion the sweet spot would be around 400 - Thats about 6 days of doing nothing but archaeology.
Overall, it's up to you. But if you're in it for the long run, prepare yourself for the possibility of A LOT of time spent. Good luck to all you fellow fantatics out there.
UPDATE #2
I now have an average item level of 324. After I got the sword I spent about 4 hours questing for gear upgrades in Uldum. Then, I started hitting up the normal dungeons. I pull about 11k dps on boss fights and about 8k average on trash. I'm SUPER impressed. This is coming from a player who managed 2k in wrath (I quit playing just after NAX was puggable) My plans from this point on are to do some PVP and to finish up with some PVE. All in all, I'd say its worth it. Even with 4.01 coming out, Zin'Rokh is the best you can get outside of heroic raids. Keep with it everyone.... it's a hell of a grind, but it IS worth it. GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL!
评论来自
351151
Hate to say it. But probably 95% of these posts should be deleted 'my story', or relocated to the general "Archaeology" thread on how-to etc.
Getting to MY post which is ACTUALLY ABOUT THE ITEM... Since it is BOA, does it work like other BOA items with respect to enchants etc. Most specifically, can a DK apply runeforging to this weapon and will it remain transferrable?
评论来自
76032
this sucks. I get that this shouldnt be easy, its a epic you can get with pretty much spending no money and no raiding. BUT. speaking on a BIS deal, this is like the Titansteel (Destroyer?) Mace 2h deal that was the beginner epic in wrath days. Raid wise we are in the Naxx stage basically. The point im getting at, is especially when newer raids are added, 6 months, a year from now this is gonna be so low on the totem pole. yes i know its BOA which is cool but i still dont think it is worth all this. 434 solves and still nothing? I coulda farmed exhalted status from dungeons in less time than this... oye
评论来自
795355
http://www.digitalhive.org/digiimg/images/09285974482350495873.jpg
There has got to be a bug with this. =/
评论来自
773309
I just hit 601 Troll solves after 450 after a streak of 9 troll dig sites in a row. At this point, I've decided to give up and just buy my pvp weapon instead. For the record, also didn't get the staff.
评论来自
sneakattack
This question is for you and every other person who has found Zin'rokh. Did you solve any artifacts from the other races? How many? Some or all? I have a theory that if you solve all the artifacts from all other races then the rares will pop up. So far in doing this i have gotten 11 rares including the headress, sword, and queen azshara dressing gown. These probably come up very quickly anyways so i am assuming that it is just a coincidence but maybe, just maybe, its not and my theory is correct. When i finish up with the tolvir and NE artifacts i will post again.
评论来自
799900
So is is safe to say the best current strat ( as of patch 4.0.6) is to dig to 100 Skill, then solve whatever you can (including troll, but keeping in mind to try to aim to have 200 frags and as many tablets as possible waiting for skill 450) to get to 450, then farm and solve troll and nothing but troll?
评论来自
stormin
After reading a part of all you posts i came to some conclusion.The chance of getting the sword is not that low as you may think.Currently in patch 4.06 there are three 2h weapons that you get from raid and their hc version and 3 which you get from pvp vendors via conquest points.In the case of the raid drop it may take like 2-3 weeks, average to get one, if you are lucky you may get it at first kill of magmaw, but still it may depend on the raid you are in, precisely if other people want it.This is the part i don't understand, i saw people with 500+solves, one guy even said that he grinded arch for 1.5 month.I think those people don't raid.At more than 200-300 solves, in the same time you have digged sites you could have done some raids, blackwing descent and BoT.Judging by the time of 1.5 month of raiding you surely get a 2h weapon (from magmaw or nefarian) and you could have a good chance to get the hc version of Akirus the worm breaker from magmaw.If you also kill cho'gall , your chances increase.
So here is the conclusion : i don't want to criticize people, but after 150-200 troll solves, you should reconsider what you are doing.The thing that the sword refuses to drop, even after 400-800 solves, may be actually a good thing, because people may get zin rokh after 100 solves like the same people get it from their first mamaw kill or they don't get it even in 300 + solves ,in same way some killed magmaw 4-5 times and they didn't get 2h mace.Besides, don't forget one thing: it's bind on account; if you have 2-3 plate characters zin'rokh weighs more than any other epic 2h drop/buy from your realm.
My advice to you: do 100-200 troll solves, and in the same time do raids, mainly bwd.If you are a good player in 3-4 weeks you should get a good 2h weapon from magmaw,nefarian,magmaw hc or if you are very lucky from archaelogy.
I'm currently playing a fury warr wih 110 troll solves, and i will probably stop at 150 solves.I will try cho'gall and nefarian until wednesday.If nothing drops, i will get my pvp sword ,i will do magmaw hc thursday and hope for the hc version
of Akirus the worm breaker.That's the best thing you could also do
评论来自
Sinkatze
I was just wondring.. these items since they are BoA, what happens if someones got the recipe, sends it to a lvl 1 char and then that char is transfered to someone elses account? That new person would get the sword with no archeology skill? I would never pay for that sword or for a character transfer to do so.. but wonder if people have done this already.
评论来自
stormhaze
Well, I'm down to a few more solo lvl 85 epic pops left, in particular the Night Elf Trinket, Dwarf Staff, and (of course) Zin'rokh. I recently obtained the Tol'vir ring, and am wondering if you can't have more than 1 lvl 85 rare pop at a time. I know you can have multiple rares pop, but while I've had this item (whether or not due to the low pop rate), not one of the other's had spawned. So, Im headed back to EK, and going to collect 200 fragments of each NE, Dwarf, and Troll, then solve them (likely staggering the solves as I go) and see if I can get another 85 rare to pop. Wish me luck.
评论来自
Borgundvaag
wow this is rly a pain to get... been farming this for 2 weeks now, have completed 600+ troll artifacts. I really envy the ppl who got it early, cause this weapon is rly a pain in the *** to get....
评论来自
hawko
Ive got till now 14 rare artifacts including the %^&* dwarf staff.. but no sword
As of now I've done 820 troll artifacts on my main and 150 on my alt.. I'm close to 1k.. and no sword.. FML
评论来自
800882
Got my Zin'rokh on 70th solve past 450. No pattern no nothing. Yes I was farming for the sword but I did every digsite and solved everything when possible. I guess I got extremely lucky. For those who have encountered the bug where a normal troll solve gives you 15 skill ups, you can still get the Zin'rokh anyways :) Happened to me too.
评论来自
800889
All you need is patience..you'll get it sooner or later! its all luck guys sorry! i grinded for this for 2-3 weeks! ended up getting the dwarf staff along the way :) dont lose hope! you'll get it :)
评论来自
sblommers
Thank you Whiteplague, that gives me some strength again. I've been farming for this badboy since a while. I'm at 800+ solves and I'm sure to find it!
The first thing I'll do with this as soon as I get it is visit all Troll digsites and kill every single living Troll i find there. After that I kill Trolls first on every battleground I come on. Just to ease the pain ...
Good luck to you all to finding it. Just keep digging boys and girls, we WILL get it and we WILL love it.
Just some positive energy.
You're welcome :)
评论来自
stormhaze
I don't know if this has been discussed already, but the spawn rates of the dig sites is equal to their presence in the territories.
Eastern Kingdoms (# of dig sites/subject): 46 total dig sites
Fossil: 12 (~26.1%)
Troll: 16 (~34.8.%)
Dwarf: 14 (~30.4%)
Nerubian: 2 (~4.3%)
Night Elf: 2 (~4.3%)
edit: ok do whatever. But if you plan to dig elsewhere, might be a good idea to get those 4 digs, then when you get Zin, come back and you can start collecting the frags immediately. Will yield anywhere from 36 to 24 fragments immediately ready to be taken up.
评论来自
614756
May be mere coincidence, but right before I got my zin'rokh solve, I heard a demonic troll sound through my game. Has this happened with anyone else?
评论来自
800429
While farming this sword i got the staff (ofcourse....)
Lucky i have a lock which can use it, but i would gladly trade it for zin'rokh :(
Keep on digging.... eventually it will come...
评论来自
337568
I just picked up the staff as well, currently at 146 troll solves and no sword.
I hope I didn't jynx my luck by finding the staff or something : <
评论来自
Yawny
Been grinding in EK for about 2 weeks now, still no luck in getting this or the Dwarven Staff.
I've solved 215 Dwarf artifacts and 282 troll artifacts. Really starting to get frustrating, but I can't give up now... I'll update when I get any of them.
评论来自
GiveMeZinrokh
This is total artifacts I currently solved:
Dwarf 425
Draenei 7
Fossil 391
Night Elf 237
Nerubian 36
Orc 10
Tol'vir 40
Troll 771
Vrykul 1
I got the Prof. title, NE trinket, Dwarf staff. But no ffuucckking sword yet. And I guess the chance may be around 0.1%.
So I'll keep digging and keep it updated.
BTW, 5 guys in my guild got this sword. Two at about 50 solves, one at 200+ solves, one at 500+ solves, one at 800+ solves.
评论来自
Yaushee
The main thing that I found to be incorrect (unfortunately) is the fact that you never get the same common again until you have completed all the commons for that race.
I started releveling Archeology on an alt and haven't touched Troll solves until I hit 450. Anyway while leveling up to I was mainly using Dwarf solves as those seem to be the second most common dig sites on Eastern Kingdoms. It turns out there are some ~27 Dwarf commons, I had only done about 15 solves when my first duplicate Dwarf common appeared. Therefore, from what I believe this ~41% chance method is incorrect in some way.
You missed the fact that all commons are not available at 1 archeology skill. Thus, your point with dwarf solves is invalidated :(
I can confirm 99% that this method WORKS. Not because I got Zin'rokh (well, I got it but it could be sheer luck without more %), but because
starting trolls from 450
, I never got a duplicate in 9 artifacts (and then got Zin'rokh).
Also, I got all 5 Vrykul commons before finding duplicates, and so did a friend.
This is the ONLY real known way to "manipulate" the probabilities with archeology, that is based on a proven fact. I cannot stress enough that the others are PURE SPECULATING SUPERSTITIOUS BULL#@%.
So if you're only looking for Zin'rokh, I highly suggest that you use this method (with multiple characters if needed) rather than praying for this baby at every troll artifact.
;)
评论来自
337568
So I bumped into someone that had it equipped and asked them how many solves it took. They said about 100. They went on to mention that they actually didn't want the sword and that this was just their alt character using it, they actually are hunting for the dwarf staff.
I got the dwarf staff at less than 100 dwarf solves yet I'm ~200 troll solves now with no sword.
An amusing observation, but if I was anymore of a skeptic or paranoid person I would honestly start to believe it's a psychological thing, like you truly must NOT want to find the item to actually run across it. Obviously this isn't the case in reality, it's all just RNG, RNG, RNG, but when you stumble on a case like I mentioned with me and that player finding what each other wants...it just really gets me annoyed.
评论来自
Docgreeen
I'm digging like there's no tomorrow for this exquisite Sword, unfortunately countless solves post 525 and no Epic for me 8(
I've already obtained, Headdress of the First Shaman, Arrival of the naaru, Clockwork gnome, Fossilized Raptor + Pet, currently working on "The innkeeper's daughter"
I had a very small number of Troll Sites but a s***load of dwarven and Fossils. What i've noticed as soon as you get one of the rare Projects all other Digsites spawn like shrooms but the one you need for the project hide somewhere....
I even used some of the instructions here for successful solving, they didn't work at all...
Altough its totally superstitious i'm gonna try one of the tips, solving all the artifacts in ZG.
At this point of of frustrated Desperation nothing to lose
评论来自
750177
I just got Zin'rohk just after my 180th troll solve. I didn't see any confirmations about this (though I was just skimming through them), but I wanted to confirm that if you do have the level 60 version of Zin'rohk with you, it does not affect getting the level 85 version. Below are screenshots of dual wielding Zin'rohks old and new.
Sheathed
Wielded
As Naga
评论来自
qawsican
Finally just got this as my 169th solve. Been farming for the past 5 days, got the staff from Dwarf as my 84th, while not searching for it. Anyways, glad I didn't give up, the comments in this section and videos on youtube kept me going.
评论来自
803438
350 troll solves here and no sword, what a fun droprate!
评论来自
GiveMeZinrokh
809 troll solves now, still no Zin'rokh
评论来自
Tguitarmaster
I got my Zinrokh after 72 troll solves took me a week to get....but it's all good now..
评论来自
OmniusPrime
This just popped for me this evening - well over 100 commons before it did - and I was wondering of it was now safe to use the troll tablets to help "solve" it. I've read in the past that the sword has changed to a common upon solving using tablets, and could not be gotten again after that. Anyone know?
评论来自
803685
Y'all need to learn how to count. I have done 84 troll solves, and around 50-60 of the other races, and still no sword, however I have completed 16 rare leads. Some of you either cannot tally up your completions, or enjoy pulling numbers from your asphaults.
Why am I reading some of you have solved 400 troll artifacts yet have only competed 11 rares?
800 solves for one race? C'mon now... Let's post real data, so we can get some solid answers.
评论来自
803699
Breaking News: All archa bot users got perm banned today. No one survive. And most of them are botting for the Zin'rokh. Yeah, my account get destroyed, but I get my life back. Thanks, Zin'rokh! No more WOW!
评论来自
461560
FFFFFUUUUUUU
164 solves, 55,6% chance to get it.... over 4k fragments....
Still no Zin'Rokh :<
评论来自
755251
Just confirmed that location does not affect the rate of proc.
The GM I spoke to however agreed that it would be epic if it actually did, unfortunately he said it was hard to pull off. :3
评论来自
803970
Every day I read new comments for motivation....Every night I farm for 3-4 hours and am pissed off!
评论来自
Zero187x
And I thought getting Aeonaxx was hard (I do have him BTW)!
评论来自
337568
262 solves, 7.5k+ frags, no drop. This is pretty lame, but oh well.
I honestly don't mind if it takes around 300 to 400 solves, it's those people that post at 700+ solves without it that really gets me iffed. Seriously, I know when you sign up for this item you should be prepared for quite a long grind, but 700+ is ridiculous.
Has an "average" been established? as in, what's the common range of solves where most people tend to have found it by then?
评论来自
mosca
Got mine 5mins ago - 337 troll solved, cheers!
评论来自
stormhaze
I had an epiphany today, and I wonder what you guys think. It occurred to me that Zin'rokh might be more like a rare spawn creature, in that it will only spawn a certain number of times per week (per server/faction). I havent looked into this (given that the thought of talking to people interested about it on my server and not trolls kinda keeps me away). So, im going to go out on a limb, and say that anywhere from 5-10 spawn per faction, per server, per week. IF this is the case, it's not about how many troll solves you do, but whether you are lucky enough to be one of the first few for the week. Granted that it does have a low spawn rate anyway may/may not affect this, but it could explain why some get this guy extremely early, or X-hundreds of solves later. Thoughts?
评论来自
677740
Soo I just got an email from a gm that states there currently is a bug with Zin'rokh. The In game mail states "Zin'rokh is obtainable however, there is a bug involving the item. What that bug is, is that when it pops up as the next item you will get you must complete all the objective prior to logging out and DO NOT CLOSE THE ARCHEOLOGY PANE."
I never use the archeology pane as I am sure many of you use a mod like Archy to solve fragments without opening the pane. Could this be partly the cause of our frustrations. I have done almost 500 troll solves and feel cheated out of the last few days of my life. However I do feel somewhat better that it could have just been a bug because of an addon.
Here is hoping that wowhead magic rubs off on me and I get the sword soon and for all that are still looking GL.
评论来自
DarkKnightX
Can anyone else confirm the above bug information?
Concerning StormHaze's post:
If this is the case, then we would need data from everyone who had solved this find to state date and time (if possible) of the solve. Check their servers for popultion, and would have to make a few assumptions as to who else is doing archaeology at the time. IF the data can show that solves "reset" every time period (week, day, event, ect), then you will see people making solves early AM on the reset of that day.
Would love to see the data for this, though.
As for me, I gave up on counting solves and do it whenever I have free time. Ironically, I have almost every "stupid" rare that is not a Lvl 85 gear piece.
Such is my luck.
评论来自
Kageski
I've noticed something interesting with my troll solve macro, with archy on i'm at 310 solves, when i disable archy and do the macro i only have 15 solves. I'm not sure what's going on but this happened on my other character if i'd sometimes solve through the professions window or through the archy mod solve button I'd end up with different solve counts. I'm guessing I have 15 solves without using archy's solve button and i have 310 solves from using the solve button...but it's just a guess and I don't know if this affects anything with procs etc.
I also had a hypothesis about how there is a certain limit of zin'rokhs per week per server that are distributed (like stormhaze), but for the past few months i've tried solving zin rokh at the most random times on Tuesdays (including 3 am onward) but I couldn't place my finger on it being RNG or if the hypothesis was just not correct. In the end I haven't been able to acquire it yet, and I'm at a total of 430 solves (with archy on). I'm going to try to solve without this mod and see if I get better luck.
评论来自
609255
Holy crapping Jesus! I can't believe the idiocy of some of the posts here. Wait... Never mind... I guess I can believe it. With 570 posts at the time of my composing this one, we're presented with a "tl;dr" situation, so I'm probably missing some intelligent posts tucked away in there somewhere. Nonetheless, I'll throw my opinion into the maelstrom.
I think that the people who are posting suggestions for increasing the odds of getting the sword to drop are making a ridiculous logical leap. The general opinion in this regard is that you can up your odds by saving as many troll fragments as possible (which is now limited due to the cap) and solving many artifacts in quick succession. This is ridiculous. Allow me to set up two scenarios:
SCENARIO #1:
Suppose that you spend three hours collecting troll fragments, and suppose that you're solving artifacts as you go, i.e., you're not saving fragments. At the end of that three hours, you solve your 10th fragment, and, lo and behold, the sword comes up next. That three hours was painful, and it felt like it took forever for that damn sword to drop.
SCENARIO #2:
Suppose that you spend three hours collecting troll fragments, and suppose that you're not solving artifacts as you go, i.e., you're saving fragments. At the end of that three hours, you've saved up enough fragments to solve numerous artifacts, so you spend the next two or three minutes solving them in quick succession. After solving your tenth and final fragment, lo and behold, the sword comes up next. That three hours was also painful, but you'll be damned if you didn't get the sword to drop in two or three minutes.
Clearly, due to the fragment cap, you can't save enough fragments to make 10 artifacts, as in the first scenario, but that doesn't render the point of this thought experiment moot. I think that these two scenarios illustrate the logical leap that I referred to above. Regardless of which scenario you play out, it still took three hours of work and 10 artifact solutions for the sword to drop. I think that people feel that they get the sword sooner simply because they're condensing all of the solutions to just a few minutes, rather than spreading the solutions out over hours.
tl;dr: People who believe that you can increase your odds of getting the sword are retards.
评论来自
rodmin
tl;dr: People who believe that you can increase your odds of getting the sword are retards.
I believe they're not retards, they're just desperate.
They just can't find a way to cope with the fact that getting the sword is a RNG problem. So they find for ways to try and change the situation, even if they place an illusion on their eyes.
I'd say 2 things then.
1: Be cool, be patient, do your best.
2: Posting bad comments won't change the RNG situation, it'll just worsen the situation here on Wowhead for those who want to either learn or help. (although it'll give some players a chance for a
bronze
/
silver
/
gold
achievement)
评论来自
461560
467 solves and counting
I will never get it.
评论来自
461560
I heard if you keep this web page open while farming for this you have an increased 1% chance to find the sword
评论来自
771700
I feel dumb...been farming this kinda (took a break) but i'm not at 450 yet...so been wasting my thing i guess...but w.e there is a cap now. Thanks blizz!
评论来自
461560
This movie just explained it all for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
评论来自
123042
troll 795 artifacts now Zin'rokh is finally on project,
while dwarf 823 artifacts no staff, means that I was at 0/1600.
Fellow maniacs, Have Faith!
Update: staff is now on project and will be my 850th dwarf artifact. Keep trying friends!
评论来自
461560
This might sound ridiculous, but you might try it, I know I am at least.
Theory: how to get a higher chance of Zin'rokh to appear as a project.
Facts:
- While leveling archaeology and discovering new common artifacts you never find the same common artifact before you have them all of a specific race
- Zin'rokh doesn't appear till after 450 skill
Idea:
- Go on an alt
- Start leveling archaeology to 300 without doing _any_ Troll solves (yes, you will get over your 200 fragment cap).
- Get to level 450 in Outland (no troll sites there)
- Go to Zul'Gurub to solve all your artifacts with keystones, you should be able to get about 7 to 8 solves.
- When you get to your last 'not known' common artifact project it's a bit under 50% chance for Zin'rokh to appear as your next project.
- Why? Because if the server rolls the dice on what your next project is going to be and it appears to be a project you already know, it rerolls the dice. This is where the funny math comes in, because this means with some luck you will get Zin'rokh as the ONLY 2 items that will be able to proc is either the last common you need OR Zin'rokh...
If you don't like this theory, don't try it. But it would surely explain the huge amount of people getting it by accident or just right after hitting 450 skill. It also explains why more Horde characters have it (they tend to level Archaeology in Kalimdor which has less Troll sites).
Good luck getting this. I know I will get it one day, even if it takes me this much time.
评论来自
784451
Sadly my wife got this Item without trying. She wasn't really trying to get anything and just completing artifacts as she had the mats for the race. Now she pimps it on her dk that she doesn't even play :(
评论来自
karmey
4 "feathered gold earings" in a row! almost as epic as my "shard of petrified wood" streak
评论来自
341981
Got mine after reaching 525. 2nd Troll solve after reaching this level.
评论来自
805235
Sitting at 287 troll solves....nothing but greys. Gotta love it... : (
评论来自
799900
I'm wondering now if i really screwed myself out of the best shot at Zin Rokh.
The post saying its possible that if you don't solve troll at all until 450 where you still have a common or two (or all - just as long as you don't have all 14 solved) to solve leads to the best one-time shot at Zin Rohk when you have 13 of the 14 commons already learned - and then the game rolls the dice and u either get the last (14th) common (since you cannot get a repeat common until you have discovered all) or Zin Rokh, considering those are the only 2 things left possible to proc at that point.
bottom line is, i started after the 200 fragment cap, so i solved troll commons to help skill-up. however, i solved all 14 commons along the way - so its not possible for me to get that 50/50 chance one-time roll.
wondering if its smarter to just scrap it and farm Arch up on my level 62 DK now that i've blown my chance on my hunter. only problem is my hunter had epic flying....
评论来自
461560
I'm almost at 450 skill with my alt DK... Haven't solved a single Troll artifact so far.
Let's cross our fingers...
评论来自
479453
Do we have any evidence that the re-rolls happen? I don't want to spend the time leveling up an alt only to find out it has no effect. I doubt a GM would respond to this sort of question.
评论来自
713155
Man, I really wish I hadn't cleared my cache so I could see how many I've solved so far. Well, at least I know I've solved 21 in the past 2 days.
评论来自
534473
I highly doubt the theory about repeated commons. Most likely how it works is, you have a fixed % chance of getting Zin'Rokh and then the rest of the percentage is divided equally between all of the finds you have left (or all of them if you have found all commons at least once).
E.G. if it was a 2% chance of getting Zin'Rokh and you had 2 commons (X and Y) left, you would have:
2% chance of Zin'Rokh
49% chance of common X
49% chance of common Y
and afterwards, if you found common X it would be
2% chance of Zin'Rokh
98% chance of common Y
评论来自
Tott3
I think the "drop" chance of this sword might be trolling us! :(
评论来自
Ascaroth
Just an observation..
I am thinking that maybe it is a good idea to wait to start doing troll finds after 450.
I checked my different finds like Dwarf, Elf and then checked Nerubian.
I was already at 375+ actually 525 by the time I got my 3rd Nerubian find.
I managed to get the rare Puzzlebox on the 3rd find.
I didn't even have to find all the common ones first..
So if what they are saying is true, you cannot get a duplicate common find until you get "all" commons
then your odds of getting a rare once you skill to that point are even better.
I am going to test this theory and post when I skill up my alt, saving all troll solves for past 450.
I will not solve a single troll until after 450.
Well, I looked at my Fossil's and noticed I have not collected them all, and yep, I already have 2 duplicate..
So whoever said you can only do one of each before you get a duplicate was wrong...
I solved a total of 6 fossil finds, 2 duplicate, and there are still 7 common I have not worked.
BUT I will continue to wait until 450, JUUUST in case :) Plus it's good Xp for my lvl 77 mage.
评论来自
Alshiva
Through sheer logic, you ~can~ increase the number of spawn sites of a certain race you can get by simply doing this: if you get multiple sites for all the races and your particular digsite (say, troll) spawns, survey the troll sites first. Digging the other sites then has a chance to spawn on the troll site you just surveyed plus all the other available current troll sites, hence more troll dig site chances.
评论来自
479453
If you ran Arch on an alt, you may be in luck. When ZA/ZG patches, a new boss will be available to groups that have an Archaeologist in them. You might want to spend the 6 hours to skill up your archaeology...and in so doing, give this "common re-roll" theory a try.
It's not a guarantee by any means, but having 2 guildies that waited to 450 and 525 respectively GET their zin'rokh, while the rest of us guildies have been toiling at it for weeks... well, I'm going to try it.
EDIT:
I should have just followed the sage advice of wowpedia...
http://www.wowpedia.org/Economical_archaeology_training
评论来自
805235
Wanted this sword simply because I love the model. Plus its a great arms wep....but sitting at 387 troll solves now I am seriously thinking that its just not worth it...
评论来自
Ovaldo
Has anyone else realized that it says that its the same model of
阿基鲁斯剿虫之锤
, but the models are totally different, one being a mace and the other a sword.
评论来自
803438
Just wanted to say im up to 580+ troll solves atm and no sword.....
评论来自
806488
Advice on archaeology: This is something nobody seems to have thought of. Currently I'm using the only solve trolls strategy and I'm almost positive it does work as I used it to get my raptor mount. Here's the important bit though. Don't want to solve dwarfs but dwarf sites keep popping up? Hit the 200 dwarf (or other race) piece cap? Just don't pick up the nodes. It's that simple. Go to the site, find the node, and dont pick it up. Find all 3 and a new dig site (hopefully troll) has popped up, and you didn't have to gain any excess weight in your dwarf pieces. This is great for me since I have all the fossil rares and I have all the Dwarfs besides the staff, so why take em in the first place? Happy hunting!
评论来自
806547
This HAS to be completely random and luck of the draw type thing. I read all the posts here and theories of how to get the most of your archeology. Well I didn't follow any of them, didnt save up frags I just completed as I found them. Well I completed a common troll for my 14th troll complete and which also got my skill to 450, sure enough my 15th find is the sword! This should tell how us all how utterly random its is, happy hunting!
oh and this was my 3rd rare find=horse shoe up the butt
评论来自
479453
Holding onto 200 troll fragments has gotten me extremely weird race dig sites. All I seem to get are Troll digs, one after another, and with 3 other troll sites already popped. Powering through to 350 took me 10 hours, though I gave up on Eastern Kingdoms somewhat late in the game. Kalimdor was far easier for skilling up when you cannot use Troll fragments. At 300, definitely hit Outlands.
350 to 410 was 2 hours in Outlands. I did give Northrend a quick look, but I feel more comfortable flying in Outlands, so I'll get to 450 there.
410 - 450 about an hour.
Addons: Gathermate 2, Archaeology Helper.
Depending on your ping, you can start summoning your mount halfway through the Survey cast bar.
评论来自
Roomy
2% chance to get the sword to come up? Getting the sword in a few days? What the heck is wrong with my archeology then? I've been doing archeology nonstop, and I mean nonstop every day after raiding, weekend, all the time now and this god damn sword just will not ever drop for me. It's been so long I thought the chance of seeing it was 1/10,000 because that was be more reasonable to the number of artifacts I've had to make. Hundreds and hundreds of artifacts, and no sword ever. TWO percent? I should have one of these for every one of my characters now. There was one thing that I absolutely hated about many MMO's that I've played, and was so glad it's been mostly eliminated from WoW, and that's the absurd and impossible rare that you can never see.
Now, legendaries take many fragments to make, which drop all the time, instead of an !@#$%^&ish 1/1000 droprate from one boss you can only fight once a week or something, leaving there a slim percent of people out there who can do it ten thousand times and still never see it drop. Like with me and farming the Baron Geddon binding now for almost a year without ever seeing it drop. For some people they get lucky and get something really quick, but for every person who gets it quick, the law of averages says I have to get the same thing for ten times the amount of time and effort for the same thing. I'm just sick of having to keep on doing it over and over and over, and knowing the next 500 artifacts could also give me @#$%, since its the same chance of the last 500 giving nothing, and I somehow can do that without seeing the sword.
I'm actually going to go this entire level gap through the patches without getting the sword, and once we have epic items higher than 359, itll become useless and I'll have wasted all these months to get something that is no longer worth it. I should have had this in January, and now I'm going on April with nothing but a giant sack full of those red Cinnabar Bijous, heh.
评论来自
789291
Just got the sword at 349 solves.
Of course I'm trying to get the Dwarf staff, 360 completed so far there but no luck. Good luck all.
评论来自
805235
575 troll solves and no sword...buddy just got it after 23 on his mage....
评论来自
redthecat
Hate to say it, but I started Archaeology on Thursday afternoon at 6pm, and had Zin'rokh on Friday at around 4pm. It was my 5th rare and I think it was my 24th Troll completion. The completion that got me the achievement for 450 arch opened up Zin'rokh for my next artifact.
评论来自
455596
Currently attempting the method of Leveling Arch w/o solving for troll until 450, then solving 15x troll artifacts to see if it turns up. Mathematically, the system adds up; however RNG is RNG, and even if you tweak it in your favor it can still screw you.
Will update as I progress.
评论来自
499044
i read all this crap about theories and stratigies about this.....its all luck my friends.......and no i don't think blizzard hates us they are creating something so that when you grab it you can hold your head up high and say "Thats right i got my zin'rokh" i have like around 50 solves yet(wasnt really serious untill i looked up all i kind find with trolls cause i was wonderin y no rares for trolls yet) so its not a test of skill or compition its a test of endurance how long you can stick it out and if you keep trying you'll eventually get it
Edit: i think teh game is on to me because when ive started for the sword id be lucky to see any troll stuff now its all dwarf and fossil crap................but when i thought it was troll junk all was getting most of the time was troll stuff
评论来自
805235
610 troll solves ATM still no sign of it.
评论来自
634110
I FINALLY GOT IT! I had tears of joy and texted everyone i knew who plays wow. found at 125 solves.
评论来自
TWK88
I have been reading these comments for a month now and decided I would try and describe my Zin'Rokh hunting experience.
I have 275 troll solves on my hunter main so far. No sword. That toon is like 17/20 towards the Professor title. I really wasn't interested in solving troll fragments for the sword at first. When I started Archaeology I was in it for the rare mounts so I pretty much just worked in Kalimdor. While working for the mounts I solved some troll artifacts but they were few and far between. Since I had gotten both mounts, and I was now kind of addicted to Archaeology, I decided to try for this sword to use on an alt. I worked Eastern Kingdoms hard. Solved the 275 troll artifacts and got nothing.... Now that's 10 times the amount of solves it took for me to get the Tol'vir Ultramarine mount.
Meanwhile I have an 85 pally that I use for farming. Untrained in Archaeology.
So I log on the pally, and start working it. Got my Archaeology all the way up to 450 without solving a single troll artifact. By then I had maxed out on fragments (200). I did all the leveling in Kalimdor since I could start there and there arent that many troll digsites there compared to Eastern Kingdoms. I only excavated 2 troll sites after I was maxed out and recieved no frags but was able to loot the Troll Tablets. I did not want to solve any troll artifacts until after 450. So, at 450 I solved all my troll artifacts right away and used the Troll Tablets when I could. 1st solve was a Zandalari VooDoo Doll and I got the bug where it gives +15 archaeology level, but other than that, Nothing. lol. Saved up 200 more, nothing. I'm still solving on this pally because of the Crusader Aura (which makes a HUGE difference when flying coast to coast). I'm currently at 48 solves.
I'm just putting this out there. I know there are alot of posts from people who were thinking of starting over on an alt.
One interesting thing that I have noticed is that you can get more than one of the same BOA epic equipment on the same account. You can also get the mounts and pets on different characters that are on the same account.
I'll post back if I learn anything new or if I am able to ever locate this elusive sword.
Thanks for the good info and the wild speculation. It makes for good reading. I wish you all Good Luck.
评论来自
809334
I GIVE UP! God damn this profession !
评论来自
805235
705 troll solves and counting I am about to agree with the post above me,,,but I get the F'n dwarf staff at 498 dwarf solves ...thanks for the leet arms warrior gear I guess...
评论来自
418571
Farming this wouldn't be so painful if it wasn't best-in-slot until
Nefarian
. Blizzard should know by now how much anguish is created in the playerbase when grinds like this are put in the game.
评论来自
455596
I just finished the method of not solving trolls until 450+ for the extra RNG manipulation chance and I did NOT get the Sword after a total of 28 solves. (2x what should be needed by this method)
This doesn't mean that the method does not work, just that I was not lucky enough to have it work for me. I'll keep farming on my main though. Good luck to everyone who farms as well!
评论来自
11009
Am currently hunting for that blade myself, and clenching my fists in frustration.
Since Deathwing is a -mere- "Shatterer of Worlds", I found fitting to wield a "Destroyer of Wolds" to spank that sissy...
Regarding the droprate business, I keep reading many many comments claiming almost thousands of solves and no drop, and on the other hand many "lucky" guys claiming a drop while looking for something else, or rerolling arche.
Adding the "BoA" on the items all leads me to believe this:
There is more to it than mere luck and droprate.
What if the drop chance was triggered by another parameter?
i.e. :
- number of distinct commons discovered
- every X commons discovered in specific race(s)
- if specific archievement was unlocked
- if troll tablets where surveyed in EACH troll digsite of Azeroth (and outlands, if there is any)
- other...
So to all of you lucky wielders, feel free to add-up anything you noticed, so we might be able to spot an hidden trigger.
Jash - archeologist with clenched paws
评论来自
614756
Murphy's Law my friends.
I am a DK tank that farmed archeology nonstop when Cata first came out. Got to 525 Archeology near the end of December, and had farmed for this sword nonstop as any epic at the time was just an accomplisment in of itself. Had racked up about 70 troll solves along with others and just got so frustrated. I was 2 weeks into cata when all my friends had done other things like make tons of money of the auction house through actual professions, and when we started raiding they were more geared than I was through heroics and such.
So we started raiding, and 2 weeks after starting I obtained my
阿基鲁斯剿虫之锤
, BiS for DK tanks and everyone was saying "Don't you feel dumb for grinding Zin'rokh now"?
Of course, I still wanted a pvp weapon, but once I started PvPing again, my friend invited me to his 2s team and I got
残忍角斗士的巨剑
within 2 weeks as well.
Now set on Zin'rokh I decided to quit archeology for good.
...1 month later, I decide to do it again to get the staff for my priest alt. I run into a couple of troll sites and after solving 2 troll things this thing pops up on my screen, now completely worthless to me.
Oh, the humanity.
评论来自
805235
well as far as common solves or X ach being unlocked. I have EVERY single arch ach now and have solved every single common in the game. So I do not think that plays a factor. 775 troll solves and counting..
评论来自
765496
Got it today, after 31 troll findings. I changed my method - before that I solved each artefact as I could, hoping the next one will be it (and I went insane getting same things over and over again). This time I got close to 200, and started solving. It was second finding :) Probably just luck, but still much easyer for your nerves to solve it all in one try.
评论来自
630455
does it really take a long time to get a screenshot up? i got it today. i hope my shot is good.
so yeah, i guess i can't use the screenshot. i am a lock amd can't use the sword, so i just took a screenshot of the UI with all the frags and keystones at the ready to finish the sword solving. i guees i am not supposed to submit shots of the UI. well, you just gotta take my word for it. eventually when i get my warrior up to 85, i will submit a shot then. i can say this, it's a tricky bastard to get, but not as bas as the dwarf staff.
评论来自
729620
Is it possible to have 2 of this sword, for like a fury warrior or can you only have one?
评论来自
173553
I have to say ... this is an awfully nice weapon. Not trying to gloat, but just saying that it's not impossible to get. I picked it up after about 5 hours (over several weeks) of archeology after hitting 450 skill.
评论来自
Ericlegacy
Got the Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds last night! For those wondering, I have both Sword and Staff now! No alts used just my main! The drop to me is a 1% chance of getting it and completely random at that! I was ready to head offline last night and try again today. I usually went to 200 troll artifacts before I solved. Last night I got to 140 and decided to solve and it was my 2nd solve. Below is how many solves it took me to get each. And please do note that I had two other rare projects going on the same time. So you can have more than one going on to get Zinny for anyone curious. Again...it is completely random! =)
144 Troll Solves - Sword
51 Dwarf Solves - Staff
评论来自
810467
I am very confused right now :p
How is the best way to get this sword?
And how does i find the weapon?
And how is the best way to lvl up in this profession?
Regards...
评论来自
810766
its just a big bull$%^& from blizzard , something name archaeology
wasted our money and life for kind of morons blue trackers who nerver stand for what they said
评论来自
yukonjack
anyone know if it is possible to get 2 of these on 2 different toons on the same account?
评论来自
justalovablechap
hey fellow wow peeps,with regard's to ,i am lvl 525 in arch,so far i have collected,3 dwarf rares,plus 27 common's,1 draenei rare,plus 1 common.2 fossil rare's,plus 12 common,6 night elf rare's,plus 18 common,1 tol'vir rare,plus 7 common,3 orc common's,5 nerubian common's,and 14 troll common's,add to that countless duplicates of these,granted your gold increase's due to some of these common's going for 2- 400g a time at the vendor,but i'm not really after the gold ,i like most are after that ultimate weapon,now i have included farming materials for alts to take away the tedious up and down the continent travelling collecting and solving relic's,plus listening to music and tucking into slabs of dairy milk ,i have a lvl 85 pally and love to get this weapon for him,as im doing arch on my 85 hunter,now i try and do 3 session's a day,thats collecting up to 200 troll fragment's ,plus by that time i have collected nearly 200 of fossil's and dwarf frags too,plus various n/elf,and nerubian on the way,then i solve all troll's to no avail,solve all the rest to cash in,then repeat another two time's given the time,as you can probably tell i do all my collecting in the eastern kingdoms to cut down on travelling time,and there seems alot more troll dig sites there mainly stranglethorn and arathi,and the hinterland's,is this what i'm doing wrong ?,should i be travelling to outland's or kalimdor or northrend to better my chance's ?, or is every continent's basically the same as far as troll dig site's and drop rate's?or is it pure chance/luck on the drop ?,i like to think in the next two or three session's it may drop as i have probably collected and solved between 1-2000 fragment's,fragment's mind ,not 1-2000 solve's or i would be old and grey by then,its a relaxing hobby,and can be enjoyed if you combine it with farming,still i would love the weapon to send to my pally so i can get back to cata hc's as this is taking up most of my time,i know you can't predict the drop or say how i can better my chance's,but thought i would see if anyone else is doing more or less the same thing?,thx and happy hunting arch's :)
评论来自
Avalionis
think the odds of getting this rare artfiact are around 1/500 or 1/1000. I've solved all 16 commons for the Troll race, at least 15 times now, and I've yet to stumble across it. RNG my arse...takes sheer dumb luck to find this.
评论来自
justalovablechap
well just solved another 180 odd trolls and nowt,another hundred plus on dwarfs and fossils,plus checked the times and dates of when i got my rare's,on one night inside 3 hours 3 rare's dropped?,my last rare being around the 22/3/11,no rare's since,only plus today is cashing in my common's got me 1100 gold ,not bad for a mornings work,oh and loads of mithril,iron,copper,tin,elementium,and pyrite ores collected,so since fri/sat doing 2- 3 sessions a day i have collected countless mats,and 3000 gold plus,over a thousand dwarf frags,same with fossils,and 1000 plus troll frags,average of 2-300 frags for each race per day ,everything that can drop has dropped except ? dun dun der......frigging sword grrrr,i know there are at least 2 other weapons similar to this but not sure on boa,but thats drop chance in hc,s and raids,plus flying mount drops,oh how i miss those days of dungeon's,trolls why does it have to be trolls,soon as i get this mother, pay backs a @#$%^, and im going troll squishing at least 5000 heads will be lopped off to ease the grief they have given me,
评论来自
justalovablechap
now hopefully with the weekly maintenance as soon as we can log back on and start grinding and with luck the bugger will drop :)
评论来自
amita
This is really frustrating knowing that I have been farming for this sword for about a week now with nothing to show for. I already did 157 troll solve and nothing still. I pretty much got all the rare item already which I can't use since all the class I have i s melee class. Seriously this is becoming ridiculous to a point of giving up. The drop rate is just terrible to begin which is a bout 5% according to wowwiki.
评论来自
813457
Proc-ed @ 495 Arch on an account that doesn't have a single melee character. Guess it's a good time to start one...
I employed no leveling strategy whatsoever and surveyed only in Eastern Kingdoms because I wanted dwarf caster staff.
评论来自
Thaio
wtb this ;(
评论来自
stormhaze
Well, here's an idea to help with the grinding.
While grinding EK (around 450+ Archaeo), due to it's abundant Troll digs, go about gathering 200 frags of Troll, Dwarf, and Fossil (the three most abundant in the region). 200 fragments is pretty much 6 solves (excluding tablets and runes). When you reach the cap (or are near it as dig sites offer an average of 14 fragments), use the "keystones" and go through all of them for each study, doing the fossil last (seeing as how you'll likely have both it's rares by then, but nothing wrong with extra gold). Assuming you have enough tablets, this could grant 8-9 solves per study, aim for doing 25 solves/week (more if you think you wont burn out from it). From what I've read, and this is a guess, Zin MIGHT pop around the 300th - 400th Troll solves. This isn't to say that there will some some lucky people who get it in the first hundred or so, but it's a target to give you an idea what kind of time you're going to have to put into finding this thing. Saving the fragments until 450 won't necessarily give you a better chance, but it will give you a good marker for when you started looking for the sword. If you're already at this point, and need a change, try it on an alt (lower level, but capable of moving about easily), as the gathering profs (with the exception of skinning) offer experience when picking up nodes (archaeo included). Again, there are no guarantees in trying to get this thing, so take a break every few days, grab some dailies to help your guild level, PvP while digging, or queue for a dungeon. In the meantime, enjoy, and good luck.
评论来自
814219
So I've read in a number of threads that the drop rate for the sword is 1%. Taking this into consideration, I ran a simple simulation generating random numbers. Forgetting about any secrets or tricks, and relying on pure statistical coincidence.
For each user I generated a random "Lucky number" and then generated random numbers from 1-100 until I hit the random "Lucky Number". Each roll I counted as a "solve". I found that multiple runs simulating a million users generated results with deviance of less than a percentage point.
Based on simulating 1 million users hypothetically all going for the Troll Sword here was the precentage breakdown on how many rolls it took before they got the lucky roll. That being said, I am currently on solve 107 with no sword, but for those of you looking for some degree of comfort, over 1 million users, on average it took around 100 rolls to get the lucky roll.
50 or less solves: 39.53%
100 or less solves: 63.41%
150 or less solves: 77.92%
200 or less solves: 86.62%
250 or less solves: 91.91%
300 or less solves: 95.09%
350 or less solves: 97.05%
400 or less solves: 98.22%
450 or less solves: 98.93%
500 or less solves: 99.34%
750 or less solves: 99.95%
评论来自
archerman2010
Looking at the model of old and new zin'rohk, i noticed some of the swords are backwards (The blade is reversed) and i also saw the screenshot of the troll dual wielding both of the blades (old and new) and they looked exactly the same, any clarification on this topic?
评论来自
624821
After having spent a grand total of 5140 Troll fragments (and 92 troll tablets, and farming for nearly 3 weeks. I have decided to give up on trying to get this. (Also I didn't get a single troll rare at all throughout this either) the fact that I can go through and make around 220+ common "artifacts" and still not turn up with even a rare is ridiculous.
There is about a 20% chance of getting a troll fragment dig site in Eastern Kingdoms. Each artifact takes 27 to 45 fragments, most having 1 scroll slot. 4 being the average fragment recieved per successful survey, we go ahead and take the .05% drop rate of Zin'Rokh (for me anyway) and the 20% chance of a troll fragment zone, you have yourself the greatest waste of time ever.
According to the chart above me, which can't actually be accurate due to the lack of an actual percentage for the Zin'Rokh proc. After hitting 450 archaeology, and are now capable of getting Zin'rokh, after you use your 1500th relic you should get it pretty soon. Sure that doesn't sound that bad. Lets "Dig" a little deeper though
One dig zone gives you a minimum of 9 fragments.
On average (for me) it takes me 20 seconds to finish one third of a dig site. So an entire minute for one dig site. Even with absolutely no other dig sites spawning except the one I am already currently at (assuming it only gives me 9 fragments each time) Its still going to take me 160 minutes to get my 1500 relics (again, assuming that my relic gathering speed doesn't fluxuate, and ignoring scrolls) Congratulations, you just spent 2 and a half hours on a "50 or less solves: 39.53%" chance to get your sword. Now, I spent 5140 troll fragments so far. So I'm going to be GENEROUS with myself, and just pretend that I never had to leave one digsite. I just spent 549 minutes ( 9 hours, and 9 minutes) and didn't get what I was trying to get.
Factors not included in the above scenario:
Flying time to other digsites
Not having any troll digsites currently on map
Players killing me
My character randomly dismounting and me dieing from falling damage
Bathroom breaks
Food breaks
Screaming in agitation due to this thing not proccing breaks.
Now, anyone who has actually bothered leveling this profession knows how long of flights you can have. Theoretically speaking the fact that I spent at minimum 9 hours and 9 minutes not flying at all, and not getting it is silly enough. For those who say Archaeology is fine. NOT EVERYONE HAS GOOD LUCK. This is a terrible profession based completely off the RNG. And when you are the type of person that has to kill 93 elite mobs for a "75% drop rate" Quest item, you obviously aren't going to get what you want within the same month.
评论来自
Burkel
SO! I get myself into the situation where I have enought to solve either a troll artifact or a dwarf one. I had a feeling I should solve the dwarf one first for some reason, hoping that the troll one would be ol zinny.
So I do just that, the dwarf artifact is solved.
Staff of Sorcerer-Thane Thaurissan
crap. well may be I'll have luck on the tro...
Drakkari Sacrificial Knife
double crap :(
评论来自
Severas
Current Amount: You Are At 749 Troll Solves and 18725 Troll Frags. (97.6% Chance). Still no sword. Still going...
评论来自
Smobo
With all the posts reporting horrid luck and long time sinks I feel bad sharing my experience but here goes...
I got my Zin'rokh at 450ish skill and in less than 30 solves. I had no dps gear at all, my main was pure tank at that time. It actually sat in my bank for over a month while I gathered enough gear to do heroics as fury. Now I'm almost fully geared and pulling 15k+ dps all the time. Also I put Landslide on it, seeing a weapon with "Destroyer of Worlds" having bits of earth falling off it is awesome.
Keep on trucking people, while I really appreciate my Zin I know the people putting in the crazy effort, and time will appreciate it that much more. Good luck to you all.
评论来自
631630
So I've spent most of my wow time lately grinding archaeology, managed 19 rares in about 3 days total time farming.
Completed both Fossil rares, Draenei, Orcs, Nerubians, completed all Night Elf artifacts except for the trinket, 2 Tol'Vir artifacts, all Dwarf except for the staff, all that is left for me to get 20 and my Professor Title, is either this sword, the remaining Tol'Vir artifacts (2 of which are lvl 85 epics, the other two are the mount and companion pet), and of course Tyrande's Favorite Doll.
Long story short: Sh*t f*cking sucks.
I'd love to find the pea-brained moron that designed this and slap them upside the head. There's no good reason at all that we should have to continue digging at sites for races we do not want to dig for in order to get the ones we want. After getting to 525 we should be able to choose what sites we want to dig from period.
评论来自
Severas
You Are At 1022 Troll Solves and 25550 Troll Frags. (99.4% Chance) Still nothing... Really Blizz?
评论来自
817231
Right, i just want to let everyone one of you out there, you guys who are trying to get the sword that if you are really driven to get this thing, you WILL get it eventually! I consider myself lucky as i got it as my 164th troll solve. I tried to get this bad boy before the current cap on fragments, but just gave up. About 3-4 days back, i decided to give it another shot (mainly just to procrastinate from revising for exams :P) and i farmed about 3-5 hours a night, desperately trying to get it. Some of you may get it after a few solves, but I suspect most of us would get it around 150-400 solves(i shudder to think what it must have been like for the people who have gotten it at 350+ solves.I Salute You) All i want to say is, if you're willing to put in the hours to get this weapon, go for it. You may get it after a few solves, but don't count on it. I think in most cases, it takes a fair amount of time and dedication to get this. I just want to say, I've been through this most arduous, monotonous and downright boring experience of archaeology and i just want to salute all of those who have put in the time to get this weapon..Peace!
评论来自
sgtbananas
I just got this thing FINALLY! And it took me 4 months and 687 troll solves to get... Now i can go back to my actually playing the game instead of farming all the time.
And like the others say, if you really want it and keep trying for it, it WILL come up eventually.
Keep at it everyone and Good Luck!
评论来自
justalovablechap
gratz to those have had it drop,they say you get out of something what you put in so there you go,fingers crossed then for the rest of us
评论来自
819075
This drop rate sucks. Hate when drops are this low. I like a challenge but come on man this is crazy. QQ!
评论来自
152049
Zin'rokh, Creator of FUUUUUU!
I'm prob just gona buy the PvP 2her.
评论来自
Fargoth7
God, I'm still wondering why they screwed it up and flipped it over
评论来自
534473
THE GOOD NEWS: In patch 4.1, you will have a much lower chance of getting digsites for races of whom you have found all artefacts! HURRAH!
THE BAD NEWS: In patch 4.1, a new epic shield will be released for fossil archaeology presumably with the same assignment rate as this one. Hurrooh.
On the whole of course, this is good news because overall it will slightly increase everybody's chances of getting Zin'Rokh in the long run. Even if you don't have the dwarf staff, there's a chance you will get that before the sword, and hence increase your chances of getting the sword from then on.
What will be interesting to know is - since there are no uber rare nerubian or vrykul finds even in 4.1 - will this make northrend archaeology faster than EK for grinding the sword and the night elf trinket - especially for those who already have one or the other.
评论来自
322704
Should be named Zin'Rokh Destroyer of Lives.
200+ troll solves
blizzard really needs to rethink the drop % on this item.
I understand that it should be difficult to obtain.
But really looking at the other posts above with over 1000 solves.
Makes me want to quit since getting Ashkandi seems more accessible at the moment.
重铸的阿什坎迪,兄弟会之剑
by Severas
You Are At 1022 Troll Solves and 25550 Troll Frags. (99.4% Chance) Still nothing... Really Blizz?
评论来自
821032
I recently got this sword 296 Troll solves, around 900 solves in total. That took time, I know I could have achieved something similar by doing raids and so on but I can pass this between my alts as and when they hit 85. I got Tyrandes Doll the week before only ones am looking for now are the staff and the Tol'vir sword the others am not too bothered about including the new rare.
评论来自
ShinRa26
I have died a little inside trying to get this sword
评论来自
322704
THE GOOD NEWS: In patch 4.1, you will have a much lower chance of getting digsites for races of whom you have found all artefacts! HURRAH!
THE BAD NEWS: In patch 4.1, a new epic shield will be released for fossil archaeology presumably with the same assignment rate as this one. Hurrooh.
On the whole of course, this is good news because overall it will slightly increase everybody's chances of getting Zin'Rokh in the long run. Even if you don't have the dwarf staff, there's a chance you will get that before the sword, and hence increase your chances of getting the sword from then on.
What will be interesting to know is - since there are no uber rare nerubian or vrykul finds even in 4.1 - will this make northrend archaeology faster than EK for grinding the sword and the night elf trinket - especially for those who already have one or the other.
If you read this above the drop% has not been changed just the chance for seeing digsites for those you have not completed have increased in % chance to have another troll site if you have solved everything in the other races.
however with EK having the most Troll sites it also have alot of dwarvern and Fossil sites.
GL to you all I really wish they would inc the chance that it drops too. (since it is after all the best ilvl 359 and below Fury warrior main hand.)
评论来自
justalovablechap
i have changed from ek to northrend to do troll frags ,one because from other posts the sword has dropped there,two because i have collected most of the rares in ek,i have just got from northrend the Nifflevar Bearded Axe valkyry rare and the nerubian
上古之神的祝福
? recieve the blessing of the gods for 20 secs?,i will not solve any trolls untill i reach 200 frags and then if it doesnt drop by then im switching to the raid alternative weaps
talk about long winded,i did try outlands but thats just way to long boring and tedious,northrend is just as tedious and some of the dig sites are just awful to get round,hence only going for 200 troll frags,at least if i go bk ek i can farm herbs ,mines,and daily's
will let ya know after my 200 if i had any luck
评论来自
Shashos
I can't be certain yet, but I have had my mage grind out both the 2 new Troll rares and now the Troll sites have stopped spawning for me. I don't mean in decreased numbers, I mean period. None.
Combined with the 4.1 patch changes that decrease the dig sites on races you have collected all rares on, this worries me. I do not have Zin'Rokh yet. :o
Once I got the 2 new troll rares, I popped into NR to get the new Vyrkul rare. (Got it.) I did not get a single Troll solve there the entire time. Only NElf and Vyrkul with a pair of Nerubian sites.
After switching back to EK to continue on my Fossil hunt for the Terrodax hatching and Zin, no more troll solves.
I'm getting this bad feeling I've been hit with that bug that makes the system think I've already solved Zin, so it will not pop again.
I'll resume grinding in EK and see what happens.
评论来自
AchillesJG
998 Total Solves, 309 Troll. No Sword.....
评论来自
Yugine
800+ total troll solves , 150+ on main warrior , around 50-70 on shaman , more than 600 on hunter, Got it on a hunter today.
Too bad we are already doing Heroic Magmaw for 2 weeks and Nefarian for like 2 months , so now that sword is only for a collection. Don't underrate comment , I know how hard it is to farm it and then read that someone got it and said "Meh , I'm a mage/lock/shaman lol". I've been searching for it since december. Just keep digging and you'll get it someday.
Also there seems to be a bug with green project boosters. I've got for ex. Dwarf Runestone x1 and THEN Dwarf Runestone x3. Think this is a bug with guild perk lvl 23, cuz it gives bonus after initial one runestone. Same goes for other green boosters
评论来自
KainDarkfire
The little brother has become the big brother, and Jin has hid away in shame.
评论来自
grimin
After farming Zin'rokh for a week straight, I discovered my Zin'rokh right after a server restart. It seems unlikely that the two would be tied together... however I discovered Tyrande's Doll, and The Innkeeper's Daughter directly after the restart as well. Maybe I just have amazing luck but something felt weird.
评论来自
827772
Got my Zin'Rokh today at solve no.63 here's the proof;
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/wowscrnshot050611135657.jpg/
. First off let me say this, do not believe ANY method that raises increasing chance for the sword to drop, none of them work, I tried them all and failed. It's completely random, it's 1% chance by my estimation, and I got lucky enough on my 63rd.
Was doing it for my frost dk my main, even though I got it on my shaman. All I can say it's better trying than not trying, reading the comments on wowhead discouraged me greatly, but it's better to try and fail then to not try and just say meh not happening. Look now I got a wonderful sword that hits like a truck. I hope all of you get some kind of confidence in my post because this thing does exist and it really wasn't hard to get for myself, but I know how random luck crap works and it could take another person forever.
评论来自
828597
Guyz! Really! What the .... is this?
Ive been farming this sword for 2 month then I uninstalled WoW and now I just started it again but wont drop it... By the way I dont have any useful item like caster staff or something... I have already solved 362 troll artifacts but nothin... I started to trying to get it with my DK and I did another 250+ troll solves with it but I have nothin... So I did 600+ solve... And around 400+ for the staff.... Is this possible or someone is joking with me?
Don't say It depends on luck cuz I did 1000 solves for an epic weapon and if theres 1% chanche it should be dropped....
Any idea how could I get the sword?
评论来自
236957
Suddenly fishing was really fun and a walk in the park when watching in the mirror...
I am starting to hate the game like some other "diggers".
评论来自
narrat0r
Imagine a Gnome wielding this.
The weapon carries the gnome.
评论来自
Drazen
Good News fellow Zinny junkees,
I had lost hope, created tickets regarding bugs (i'm a dork i know), I just knew something was wrong and that if I didn't get Zin'rokh before 200 solves, I wasn't gonna get it. Well... yesterday, at 764 troll solves, I got Zin'rokh. As you can see, if you keep digging, it will be yours. Good luck everyone
评论来自
830992
been 525 for just 1 day and solved since then exactly 25 troll artifacts and then for my surpise Zin'rokh poped up:)
dunno how was pre patch or i was just lucky but dont lose hope
评论来自
DolphLundgren
So far I am at 336 solves. Losing hope here.
EDIT: I like how the sites for races that you have solved all the rares for are supposed to decrease. When I had all Dwarf solved I hardly seen Dwarf. But as soon as I finished all my Fossil rares the only sites I get are now Dwarf and Fossil.
评论来自
784179
Having solved all Nerubian & Vrykul rares*
I thought I'd try grinding Northrend for Troll sites. Boy, was I disappointed! After completing 12 dig sites, not one new Troll site has appeared; a total of 9 Vrykul and 3 Night Elf dig sites instead.
The notion that Northrend might be a better place to seek Zin'Rokh (having completed Nerubian & Vrykul rares) seems to have failed me so far, but alas, I will continue to grind Northrend in hope that a greater data sample will yield a more favourable trend: more Troll sites. I however recommend sticking to Eastern Kingdoms for the time being.
It would be interesting however to see how many Troll sites appear in Northrend having completed all (1) Night Elf, (2) Nerubian and (3) Vrykul rares. Can anyone comment on this?
*As of Patch 4.1, digsites for those races whom you have solved all of their rares are less likely to appear in future.
评论来自
831493
I have tried to get this weapon for a while, and i think that the odds are always against people who need it. Thats why you should try farming for this on a character that can't use it, like a caster. Then when you get it, mail it to the character that needs it.
Its my belief that any item that you want will only drop if there is no one there at the time who can use it, or there is 2 people there who can use it and they will most likely be competing each other for it. Rare drops will also come if you are completely oblivious of their existence, thats how i got my Green Proto Drake of the 1st try.
评论来自
Heyallo
5 Days and nothing @_@, Azaren must be right, odds stacked against people who need it =/
评论来自
Moodknight
Bro, u can always find Sargeras if u want to, but try to find this #$%^y flimsy sword when u need it.....If its not The Destroyer Of The Worlds, at least Of Lives it is xD
评论来自
Nekhbet
Greetings fellow archaeologists..
Solves:
Dwarven: 165
Nerubian: 12
Night Elf: 26
Fossil: 124
Troll: 276
I found
巫王索瑞森的法杖
at around 140 dwarven solves, and
辛洛斯,诸界的毁灭者
at my 276'th troll solve.. Took me around 2 months before i got the items.. To be honest, i would not recommend people to look for these things, it simply requires too much time, and it requires a lot of luck.. If i knew how long it would take me before i started, i would never have started at all, thats for sure.. Think of it, there are other items with the same or even better stats, that does not takes weeks or months of farming..
Anyway, good luck to those of you who are still searching, you need it.. =)
Happy hunting..
评论来自
832354
I feel happy for all those people who got this in their 3rd or 10th solve but this thing isn't working for me...
I am deeply into archaology the last 1 or 2 months and since then i got this far:
Troll: 260 artifacts
Dwarf: 227 artifacts
Fossil: 159 artifacts
Draenei : 10
Night Elf: 83
Nerubian: 10
Orc: 10
Tol'vir: 8
Vrykul: 7
So total solves...867 with total rare solves 22.
I've made all the achievements possible in this dead end profession but as u can imagine still no sword...I think of giving up on this thing but the idea that it might be next troll solve is driving my crazy.
I know that my comment doesn't add anything else to all the other comments here but i just wanted someone to share this with :p
Happy haunting everyone and i hope that u'll have better luck than me :)
评论来自
Dorfie
It got all Nelf rares in under 10 solves - yet this one
Its the only item i actually want from Arch - and still no Zin'Rokh
It honestly is a Myth;
You people that have it, must be lieing ?
Hah
It deffo is one of the most RNG things ive encountered in wow so far, ive tried what people have suggested and still no luck sadly :(
GL to all that are trying it, it wont be quick
评论来自
832354
344 troll solves... still nothing.... every time i solve a troll artifact i am dying inside :(
评论来自
Pallyfinale
The methods presented in this Comments page pertaining to obtaining the weapon are completely based off of coincidence and cannot be taken as a serious fact. The digsites assigned in Archeology are completely random. What digsites you choose to do, or not do, have no effect on what the next digsite will be.
People getting it a few solves after trying these methods or their "third solve" are running completely off of luck. I will continue to search for this sword between heroics and raids but believe me when I say, there is no DEFINED METHOD of obtaining this sword other than pure % chance and luck.
As so, I wish you Good Luck on your Digging.
评论来自
833284
Hi all you hunters of this sword.Few days ago I talked with a GM about the drop chance of this item.After he/she told me I desided to quit digging for it.The exact words are :
'This is rather unique drop and its rate depends on actual numberof players on realm.It is one of the world drops, which basiclly means that this project is generated a few times per realms at random times and players who are researching projects at this perticular moment have chance to get it .'
This basicly means it doesn't matter how many artefacts you have solved you can have it after 3 solves or you can have it after 5000 solves depending on the server or you can never get it if you are unlucky.My time is precious as I work 5 days a week and such investment of time is pointless from my point of view.I hope this information will be usefull for all who read it.
GL
评论来自
833326
I've completed all rares of NE, Nerubian and Vyrkul, including the new drinking horn Vyrkul rare released in 4.1. However, the spawns of troll dig sites are still very low in Northrend. For example, in 12 new dig sites, 8 of them were Vyrkul, 3 Troll and 1 Nerubian. I raised a ticket on this to a GM who indicated that other folks have also reported this issue and that Blizz is looking into it. Nothing more specific than that. I really thought I had a fool-proof plan of increasing my troll sites but it looks like something is not working the way it's supposed to.
评论来自
821127
334 troll solves... No sword >.<
I'm giving up at 1000.
评论来自
Tripfel
We hunt for this sword.....so that would make it a hunter weapon O.o
评论来自
Valielina
I
just
spoke with a GM and asked him whether it was in fact a "world drop" or random like the rest. He told me it was
COMPLETELY
random, and that the defination I had for a world drop from the aforementioned post was
completely wrong
lol. I quoted to the GM the parts of the post that were said to be from another GM and he said that was
completely incorrect
and he didn't know why a GM would give that advice. So for everyone looking it is a random drop like all the others :). Unless the GM I spoke with was entirely wrong and the other one was right haha. He actually suggested I go to cuckhead.com for further advice. When I told him that is where the advice I had came from he found that pretty funny. Good Luck searching everyone! :-)
评论来自
141200
hello guys , just came to post just got the sword today , was looking for it from when the expnasion have come out , took me 452 troll solves to get it , it does exist , just if you don't get it too early , it sure need much more solves , but one way or another it will pop-up by the time , good luck to all :)
评论来自
xployt
That's what she said.
评论来自
834589
No, it doesn't matter if you max out other factions fragments. Those dig sites will still pop up and you will still have to get past them in order for different ones to show but now you just lose out on fragments if you're already capped.
评论来自
Dorfie
It also doesn't matter if you already have a rare to solve or 2 rares, or maxed frags for each race;
Its separate and less then 1% RNG - happy huntings, im loosing faith and hope rapidly now, i might aswell give up since ill finally get the heroic wep from Nef on Wednesday - but knowing my luck it wont drop like it has done for the past 3 week >.<
评论来自
809208
Yeeah!a!
got my at 1989th troll artefact!
*no joking, serious
评论来自
283409
How do you see all ur dig numbers and whatnot in a nice list like that?
评论来自
allblack
Troll: 379 solves, ~10991 fragments (85% chance to have found the sword by now.) /pray @ wowhead gods for zin :)
评论来自
gamemaster3000
Do you have the source of the 0.5% drop rate? (If I interpret 0.995^a correctly.)
评论来自
Balle
Its kinda fun to read People's comments on how to best ur chances when its a " random " drop ? :)
Good luck trying to calc it, ill promise u that u wont be able to do a % on drop since Its a random :)
Ill just repeat myself.
Its a random drop
评论来自
251780
there still has to be percentage probability within the calculation, when this happens is random, not what that percentage is. Otherwise one day it is 100% next 0.000001%.
0.995 isnt .5% it is 0.05 one in 200 not one in 20
long time anyway you squeeze it!
评论来自
dartworth
This macro shows how many finds players have come across. Open up the archaeology window and look at the results list before this macro will do anything useful.
/run local g,a,n,c,r=GetArtifactInfoByRace for x=1,9 do r,a,n,c=0,0,GetArchaeologyRaceInfo(x),GetNumArtifactsByRace(x)for y=1,c do a=a+select(9,g(x,y))r=r+select(3,g(x,y))end print(n..': '..c..' (rare: '..r..' solved: '..a..')')end
http://www.wowpedia.org/Archeology
评论来自
809208
Zin'Rock at 1989th troll artifact. A fact !
评论来自
rodmin
After getting to 525 we should be able to choose what sites we want to dig from period.
I believe Blizz is working on a way to apply that, although i couldn't find the source.
Does anyone know about this development?
评论来自
Rico77
AngC
what that for a add-on and whats the name of it ?
评论来自
821745
I really wanna get this sword. Is there any something special you need 2 do for getting this sword or is it just based on luck
评论来自
Hasteur
82 Solves, ~2378 fragments, And Zin is my next solve.
评论来自
836288
Currently at 783 troll solves between 2 characters. No Zin yet sadly. I have now gotten 2 Dwarf staffs 2 tyrandes dolls 2 fossil shields. Don't feel like I can stop after doing this for so long!
评论来自
213951
from what ive gathered from this post the one thing everyone seems to be missing is the fact that you arent supposed to pick up the fragments from other races either, because i noticed the second i cleared out all the other race solves i had and stopped picking up the frags when i cleared non troll sites the trolls would pop up quite a bit more often since there was no other race able to complete at the time up to the point where the rare site would be one in about 20 for non troll.
so first solve all artifacts you have frags for on non troll races
second when you visit a non troll site locate the fragments but do not pick them up
third make sure you only hold onto troll tablets and put all other racial runes in your bank
following these rules ive managed to nearly negate all non troll site spawns after the initial clearing
update: for some reason all of a sudden troll nodes stopped spawning and after a good 40+ sites cleared not a single troll has spawned im not sure if it is a glitch but even rng has its limits for occurences like this so if this happened to anyone else let me know
评论来自
gamemaster3000
Masterwork Elementium Deathblade will be higher ilvl, haste and mastery instead of hit and crit, and a million times more reliable to earn.
评论来自
813026
FINALLY got this thing to pop up! GOnna have to spend all night getting the pieces needed to solve it, but I should be used to the endless loop of digsites by now right.
评论来自
815327
It's not the same weapon, the stat distribution is slightly different.
评论来自
837286
Got it @ 520 troll solve.
Its totally random.
GL everyone that is searching for it.
评论来自
832354
407 troll solves... still no sword :(
评论来自
womping
Just got mine there 10 minutes ago dam that was hard to get,no messing guys 724 troll solves along it took me to get this.No staffs yet or 1 handed weapon, i have got the shield and mount will keep farming do :)
评论来自
464052
Idk about you guys, but I just maxed my arch finally :)
I know so far that dig sites are random.
The most numerous dig site has to be troll when farming on the right continent,
which I think has the most dig sites compared to the others.
Because there are so many of them, the chances of it a troll site spawning are greater.
Fossil sites are also common, since there are so many of those as well.
Once you hit arch lvl 450 or so, you will have additional dig sites available in the new cata areas of the game :)
I've had 3 or 4 rares to solve @ most, in any one time.
I do believe that the spawns are completely random,
and mass solving only gives you another chance @ spawning another random item
(like buying another lottery ticket, it's only another chance @ winning)
评论来自
464052
For those who seek that which cannot be obtained,
all you need are:
Time. Patience. Luck.
(maybe some type of meph to keep you awake)
评论来自
464052
and all of those pics of ppl holding their damn sword just makes me mad >:(
and want the sword even more >:O
评论来自
838024
Just to add my few bits.
It took me exactly 200 troll's solves to get Zin. Reading posts earlier make me think I was lucky.
To help just a little rest of you trying there you have my hints:
1. It does not matter what, how, where you dig. All posts claiming different kinds of digging, ordering, keeping fragments help are just fake - it is based only on luck and RNG.
2. During the lucky dig I had another rare in progress - fossil pterrodax hatchling. It does not matter at all.
3. Because I was getting little frustrated I have contacted GM's three times. The only answers I got was different versions of "working as intended" and "keep trying".
Only thing that can raise your chances a little is prioritising Trolls whenever dig site is close. Because next dig site is random roll of RNG having 3 open Troll dig sites lowers a chance to get 4th. On the other hand flying to the other part of the world just to get one dig when having 3 others near sounds like bad idea. Just be smart and use common sense. And dig dig dig - you will get it.
Good luck!
评论来自
746066
I just popped this as my next artifact, (I'm going for the dwarf staff, but this is a nice bonus and it will make my dwarf sites more common). It was my last troll item without a doubt.
Artifacts solved:
Dwarf: 122
Draenei: 3
Fossil: 71
Night Elf: 40
Nerubians: 6
Orcs: 5
Trolls 139
Vrykul: 1
Total: 387
Most of my levelling was in Kalimdor, hence all the night elf, once I hit 450 I was never left Eastern Kingdoms
Good Luck Hunting! I intend to keep going till I get that staff!
One last note:
I hadn't tried this until this solve, but I had about 90 troll fragments and a bunch of tablets, and solved 3 items in a row without moving and the 3rd item was the sword...I'm going to try this for my dwarf staff now, but it's probably just coincidence
edit: lol yeah just coincidence, solved 20 more dwarf artifacts, 5 at a time and no luck. rofl but it honestly makes the grind less depressing! I'd still suggest it
评论来自
292061
deciding that with over 400 troll solves on my lock, i am not going to get this on that toon, i leveled archy on both my DK and mage; figuring that different classes/toons might help my chances of getting this sword ( i leveled them both to 450+ on NE ). funny thing is, on
both
of those toons,
i got the other two troll rares in under 10 solves each.
now at over 100 solves on my DK, and 20+ on my mage, i am really getting the feeling that either this sword proc is just really, really, really rare, or there is some kind of account algorithm determining who can have what goodies (like the bug mount)...
评论来自
Litesung
I haven't read a comment on this, but is it possible to get two of these? Maybe through different characters, or is it one per account.
If it is possible to get more than one on multiple characters, then I can imagine fury warriors dual wielding these swords.
评论来自
Nicos
only one word
ULTRASUPEROMGRARE
评论来自
BlindCyclops
After completing all the archeology achievements, I believe I'm done with the profession. I received this item on my 100th (exactly) solve. Below are the end results of my digging.
Dwarf: 89 Solves / 4 Rares (Incl. Staff)
Draenei: 11 Solves / 2 Rares
Fossil: 64 Solves / 4 Rares (Incl. Raptor Mount - no shield)
Night Elf: 59 Solves / 7 Rares (Incl. Doll)
Nerubian: 8 Solves / 0 Rares (but puzzle box is next solve)
Orc: 10 Solves / 1 Rare
Tol'vir: 10 Solves / 2 Rares (Incl. Ring - no mount)
Troll: 100 Solves / 3 Rares (Incl. Zin'rokh)
Vyrkul: 4 Solves / 0 Rares
Total: 315 Solves / 23 Rares
I may go for more Tol'vir items one day as it appears I have decent luck compared to some of the others I'm seeing here, but since I got what I mainly wanted out of this, I'm happy.
I find it amusing that with a task like this, where there is no actual end in sight throughout, I have a tendancy to develop little 'rituals' about how I go about accomplishing things. Superstitions even. I can only imagine and wonder at what others develop to maintain their sanity while digging. My big ones, for example, were that being an archeologist I assumed I was there to observe and piece together history. So, while digging, especially troll sites, I avoided killing anything in as much as was possible. Another was that after a string of unlucky solves I decided I would wait until I'd capped everything as close to 200 as possible and then go to one 'lucky' spot to do all my solving. Seemed to work for me since I got Zin'rokh and 2 other rares in the same batch. I know it's completely random, but *shrug* superstition and praying to the archeology gods for the win.
All I know is that I almost cried when I saw Zin'Rokh finally come up, so for those of you well beyond 100 solves... you have my sympathy and respect.
评论来自
746066
I believe actual there is somewhat of an end in sight although it's not definite. It seems that as particular artifacts are solved more and more, the lesser popper artifacts become more likely to appear, I've definitely noticed this trend in my common artifacts, they naturally balance out. So as time goes on the chance the the sword/staff/shield/whatever will pop grows and grows and grows
评论来自
Rico77
well strep
it should grow a lot
lol
评论来自
106939
Zin'Rokh, Is it still worth going for since there're alrdy better weapons there? PVP viscious one is so easy to get now...
Is it proven there's a minumum lvl or archy lvl to go for, before there's a chance to get zin'rokh? Like minimum lvl85 with 525 archy lvl...
评论来自
bizzarojerry
The grind for this sword is over, the crafted 365 sword is better than this troll sword even if it does have haste. 6 months of grinding and nothing.
Thanks alot blizzard. The thing is they want you to stop doing archy anyway.
评论来自
818673
Wrong. If you stop digging other sites, the troll will not appear anymore. Each continent only has so many digsites at any one time. So if you have no troll, and a bunch of dwarf/fossil, if you do not dig them, you will not get a troll digsite.
评论来自
631142
I usually hate comments that brag about how the poster got an item after only a few tries, but....
Has anyone ever received this item with say less than 150 solves?
I might get down rated for requesting such comments but I'd really like to know.
评论来自
crovax3000
Just got this as my 34th solve.
The true tragedy is I don't have any melee characters to use it..
评论来自
sergeantcqt
Just got my hand on this baby @ my 75th troll solves (2182 fragments). I know I got extremely lucky compared to most other posters here, but I'd like to share a few hindsights on how to get it:
Level your Arch skill to at least 450 because the sword won't pop before that. Might as well just grind all the way to 525 before even start thinking about it.
Grind only in Eastern Kingdom. It provides the most frequent spawns of troll digsites.
Do NOT intentionally avoid digsites or in any way prioritize your order of digging: Avoiding digsites (such as those in Twilight highlands) would cause less frequent spawns of digsites of other races; Prioritizing them also results in a productivity loss because chances are, next digsite would spawn really far away from you. The best approach is to start from the north of EK, dig all the way to the south (Stranglethorn Vale) and make sure NOT to skip any site in the way. Doing this would allow you to have a much bigger chance of having several troll digsites clustered in Stranglethorn Vale.
Just like in stock market, do NOT possess the mindset that you can outperform/outluck the majority. Stay calm and be patient with every solve. Or better yet,
watch Fight Club
before grinding. Remember,
You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else.
评论来自
Djongov
Dwarf : 175
Fossil : 120
Troll : 247
The sword is only a dream yet. I can't remember doing anything else lately other than getting the sword for my warrior. I've bought him some boe epics 359 and i keep them in my bags and haven't sent them to him because i wait for the sword too and just send him the whole package. The frustration is all there is now. Like some smart posts here stated i already hate the dwarven race and i hate Twilight Highlands. I want to shoot myself of how often all my 4 dig sites are those bloody dwarfs . I can't remember how long ago i leveled 525 and how long ago i had completed all the achievements and the rare artifacts of other races. I have nothing to win other than the sword now meaning that every solve that comes next and isn't the sword is a pure pure waste of time since i have no more rares from other races to expect and the amount of gold i get as a compensation is hilarious where most of the solved grey sh$t is 1g or 5g worth. But i must move on. Not because the sword is good because it is still good but in 2 weeks 4.2 comes and he won't be that good or at least there will be something better and more reachable. But because all the struggle became a challenge of faith and devotion , having for the first time something that is within a personal reach. I've always hated something about WoW. I tend to compare it with Diablo where having a good items depends only on your own luck, devotion and desire to achieve it where in WoW you need groups and raids and people to get something good. Well, for the first time Zin'Rokh is something that is good , beautiful and memorable item that is within each person's reach only willing to raise his hand and get it. Well that is how it looks like on first touch. But we , the people who didn't get it on their 100th solve know that these values that i described above die when this takes sooooooooo f.``.``.ing long!
评论来自
839088
Just got it on my DK 460 solves. :)
评论来自
mychatposts
Hi, my name is Pat and I'm a Zin-rokh-aholic.
评论来自
843626
THis is a question for those who have found the sword. Where was the last place you dug before it showed in your list of next to be found? Was it near Zul'Gurub?
评论来自
Rico77
could be any troll area
^^;;
eastern kingdom
评论来自
843883
Although there are many helpful tips here on leveling Arch, to anyone serious enough who wants this item, the best advice is this:
Hold the course, don't give up. You will get it eventually. There is no specific thing you can do to get this item faster, there is no guarantee anyone can give that will make this easier. Patience and determination are the things that will make you successful.
Happy hunting.
评论来自
mychatposts
FIVE lizard foot charm solves... I'm at 525, and I got ANOTHER, my sixth Lizard Foot. No Zin.
REALLY, Blizz? REALLY?
I'm ready to quit this game.
评论来自
mychatposts
Well,
the search is pointless now, because as of next week, I can just buy
Masterwork Elementium Deathblade
Epic
Binds when equipped
Sword Two-Hand
Speed 3.80
1753 - 3256 Damage(659.1 damage per second)
+361 Strength
+541 StaminaDurability 120 / 120
Requires Level 85
Item Level 365
Equip: Improves haste rating by 241.
Equip: Increases your mastery rating by 241.
Haste is kind of pointless for ret pallies, and maybe zin is fine, but the digging is killing me.
(unless they come out with Zin-Rokh, Destroyer of Galaxies or something. Blizz: hint hint)
评论来自
Garroda
Because this sword is BoA, can you create one sword on your main, then create a second one on an alt?
If this is possible, can you mail both of these swords to a Fury Warrior so that he can wield both?
评论来自
Rico77
nope just 1 per acc also it say
Unique
that mean just one can be use
评论来自
845983
In my opinion, the best way to go about this is to not even look up these things, not to bother with half arsed percentages and theories on how to ge the ultimate gear and weps. Just do archaeology and if you get it, be proud of it. I don't see why you should make a big deal of it, because if you don't even known your looking for it, then it's not going to seem like such a long road to get to something like this wep.
评论来自
linkhyrule
As of today this sword is no longer worth the headache anymore.
评论来自
mychatposts
Pointless to pursue.
Crafted 4.2 sword is better and the process to get it is more or less guaranteed.
So long, Zin'Rokh
评论来自
357668
To all those that post comments saying that after
xxx
days, with
xxx
solves, you have/don't have this sword. Stop it. They are completely worthless. You could get this rare to show up as your 2nd troll artifact or your 2000th. It's
RANDOM
!
With the new Molten Front recipes sold by
Damek Bloombeard
becoming available in the next few days to those who have done the FL quests every day, it is no longer worth the grind.
Masterwork Elementium Deathblade
is better.
Be happy if you do get Zin'rokh as a rare artifact, but please don't post that you did on here. We really don't care.
评论来自
mychatposts
I think people care. With professions and drops like this, it's fun to have a 'support' group chiming in. Go ahead and post your woes, people.
评论来自
Vanthalas
I did over 300 solves and no sign of this sword, at this point I'm only interested in collecting it to get all the profession rares for any eventual new achievement, I'm glad I stopped freaking out about farming this sword a couple months ago.
评论来自
possumshake
___+___
l______l -- Here lies my hopes and dreams
评论来自
857961
i need a new soul!
评论来自
861483
Found the sword as 81st troll solve. Looking for the staff and looted this :(
Total artifacts
Dwarf: 61
Fossil: 39
Night Elf: 54
Nerubian: 3
Troll: 81
评论来自
TroyN
Finally got it yesterday, 317 troll solves. Had around 80% chance to have found it using the macro someone posted earlier. I honestly though I would never get it, and was a couple hours away from just giving up and making the Deathblade.
评论来自
Sadpandabrah
This sword makes me sadpanda brah!
评论来自
863253
This weapon is still better than the Masterwork Elementium Deathblade, due to the fact that it has a 3.8 speed rather than the MED's 3.5. Blizzard should be updating the tooltip soon.
评论来自
863469
In my many, many hours of searching for this, I was able to find this item instead:
尤格萨隆的谜之匣
I clicked on this puzzle box and this was the message I got:
"You will never find Zin'rokh, the Destroyer of Worlds. You should find something else to do."
评论来自
kaexo
I'm missing
1 Dwarf
,
1 Troll
,
1 Fossil
, and
6 5 4 3 2
1 Tol'vir rare project. I'll keep updating this daily.
Edit:
Well folks, I got it. Here are my final stats... I got
辛洛斯,诸界的毁灭者
at 10:36pm and then just two hours later,12:50am, I was very happy to see
巫王索瑞森的法杖
pop up. I also got my
配方:时沙之瓶
. If you're on Illidan, send me a PST and I'll make you one free of charge... well, you supply the mats. =]
Final edit for sure:
Well, I kept going, ....for a long time hoping to get all 33. I spent countless hours on my last Tol'vir project
热风弯刀
. I pretty much gave up though. =/ Here are my final statistics:
With 4 rares left to go:
Orc
: 10 (rare: 1 solved: 11)
Nerubian
: 9 (rare: 2 solved: 12)
Draenei
: 10 (rare: 2 solved: 12)
Vrykul
: 7 (rare: 2 solved: 30)
Tol'vir
: 10 (rare: 3 solved: 40)
Night Elf
: 25 (rare: 7 solved: 66)
Fossil
: 16 (rare: 4 solved: 242)
Dwarf
: 31 (rare: 4 solved: 340)
Troll
: 17 (rare: 3 solved: 425)
With 1 rare left to go: (notice how many solves it took)
Tol'vir
: 12 (rare: 5 solved: 551)
Night Elf
: 25 (rare: 7 solved: 631)
Fossil
: 17 (rare: 5 solved: 515)
Dwarf
: 31 (rare: 4 solved: 363)
Troll
: 17 (rare: 3 solved: 510)
Total projects solved:
2,675
I sold 75% of my Tol'vir hieroglyphics instead of using them knowing it was going to take a long time no matter what. They sold for 500g a piece, so at least I was making a ton of money while farming.
Do I regret the time I've spent? Nope. The rarest of these items cannot be obtained more easily no matter how high your iLevel or how advanced your guild is. These aren't items that just randomly fall off a boss every 5,000 kills (old Deathcharger's Reins) and there are no legendary materials to collect. Sure, some people may get a random 359 epic project fall into their lap early, but only those who actually put in the time and effort, blood and sweat, can claim victory over owning the rarest or the rare: the 359 BoA Tol'vir epics and the mount. These items can only be owned by those who worked hard for them.
I can't wait to start transmogrifying my 2H swords in 4.3 =]
评论来自
Sadpandabrah
Still a sadpanda brah!
评论来自
truefury
After 5000+ Troll Fragments I finally got Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds =D
There is a trick to Archaeology, you need a few things to make it work...
1. Patience
2. (2) Addons: Archy, and ArcheoTriangle (Archy sets your waypoint to the closest digsite, which makes things easier, and ArcheoTriangle works similar to most triangulation addons, except that it sets a waypoint and also records Archaeology nodes.
3. (Optional) install CarboniteAddon, it helps you see how/where the digsites spawn and sometimes you can see a pattern.
4. I came to realize that you can force nodes to spawn simply by avoiding the spawn spots in the area you want, and simply getting all the other ones around it done first (But dont go too far out of your way to get a digsite, unless its on your way to another one.), example, Kalimdor has a northern, and a southern section, Northern part has Very little troll Fragments, rare Nightelf, and Erudian fragments. With a semi-consistant spawn of Dwarven fragments usually in Hillsbrad foothills, Arathi highlands, Wetlands, and twilight highlands.
Whereas at the bottom of the continent you have 1 rare Night elf spawn in the Twighlight grove (Duskwood center.) Stranglethorn is mostly made up of Troll fragment spawns and 1-2 fossil spawns. Once in awhile you will get dwarven or fossil fragments in southeast portion of Blasted Lands.
5. FACT: You will get less fragments from a digsite-Node if you finish all of its blue/purple fragments. Example, you get all of the rares from Fossils, and you will start to see much less fossil fragments than you did before. So to increase your odds of other rares dropping it is a excellent idea to get every single digsite that you can.
6. Set your hearth at the northern or southern part of the continent you are working at.. That way once you get to the southern most part of the continent or the eastern or western most part, you can simply hearth and end up back at the starting point with fresh new digsites to complete.
If you are a Death Knight, Druid, or Mage you can take advantage of their portals. DK's Death Gate, Druids Moonglade portal, and Mages everywhere portals =D
7. Buy Epic Mount Training, and also Master Riding, these two will help you travel quickly acrost the world and get to digsites quicker. Also the 20% bonus from Guild Perks stacks with personal travel enhancers like "On a pale horse" from DK, or "Path-finding" from hunters are just two examples.
8. I suggest using your Runes, high elf Scrolls, Troll Tablets, etc... to increase the number of fragments you have available, and also increases your chance of getting a rare. (This is not fact, but just personal observation, you can make your own conclusion.)
If I remember anything else that I do, I will post that later. I hope you all enjoy my guide, just remember the more solves you have the higher chance of success.
It's just like gambling.
评论来自
867901
with 4.3, you can put zinrokh model to any of your swords without stat-dps loss =)
评论来自
Duditz
I am adding my comments not specifically for this particular item but archeology in general.
I started archeology two days ago and in that time I have discovered 98 common items and 23 rare items.
To answer a few comments made up top after the previous patch. You can solve multiple rare items for different races at any given time. I have done this on 3 occasions.
At the moment I have Fossil - Raptor mount waiting to be solved and the Dwarven Clockwork Gnome.
Previously I had Bones of Transformation and The Pendant of Scarab Storm previously appear at the same time.
My method and seemed to work pretty well is this.
Fly around, collect upto 200 tokens for each race, yes this is a lot of farming but trust me it's well worth the effort.
Once and only once you have 200 tokens for multiple factions doesn't have to be every faction but for example if you wanted particularly the Night Elf rare and since Night Elf seem to spawn on Kalimdoor and Eastern Kingdom collect Troll, Dwarf, and Fossil. Giving you a total of 800 artifacts. Now start solving keeping your Night Elf to last. This greatly increases your chances of solving Rarer artifacts. And here's why. Not every faction have the same amount of rare artifacts. Also if while solving an artifact for say Dwarf by having around 200 in your bag it allows you to solve almost 6 common items. Now if you say have 800 in your bag then you can get a total of 24 solves. And trust me when i say this, out of 24 solves you should be hit with 2 Rare. It is simple maths.
You wouldn't run an instance once and say damn didn't get the drop I'm logging off now. You would run it multiple times and the more times you run it systematically the more your chances of getting a particular drop increases.
Let me explain. I want a particular drop from Scarlet Monastery, and i say you know what I will run it 5 times. Do I run it once a day for 5 days hoping to get the drop. Or run it 5 times one after the other to get the drop. Repetition increase chance.
My second bit of advice when it comes to archeology is should only be done on a Mage.
Also here is why. You can get across continents in matter of seconds.
I can't tell you how great it's been to fly from North of Eastern Kingdom, had 4 nodes appear in Stranglethorn, port to Stonard, mount up, fly to Stranglethorn get the digs and have it appear in Hinterlands, then port to Undercity, have it appear in Twilight Highlands, port to Org fly to Twilight Highlands port in Org in the space of 5 minutes. Archeology the only way it's meant to be done.
So for all your aspiring archeologists out there I hope this helps a little. And good luck.
评论来自
Duditz
Two comments I would like to add before i forgot in regards to my previous posts.
If while making artificats you have 2 rares appear I can't prove it but I have not had any other rare items appear. I am thinking 2 is the maximum no. of rare artifacts you can have waiting to be solved.
If this occurs then stop making any other artifacts and start to farm to solve these two artifacts before proceeding to solve any others.
Secondly I want to tell you how my archeology has gone to date.
And I am not one of those people that like to exaggerate and say I have something or that I got it on my first attempt just for the sake of saying i have it. I read up top that it took some people thousands of tries to make certain items and it's more for those people.
To date and like I said only been doing archeology for 4 days now I have created:
DWARF:
Rare;
Clockwork Gnome
Chalice of the Mountain Kings
The Innekeeper's Daughter
Common;
20 common Items all made only once.
DRAENEI:
Rare;
The Last Relic of Argus
Arrival of the Naaru
Common;
11 Common Items a few repeated
FOSSIL:
Rare;
Fossilized Hatchling
Pterraorda Hatchling
Ancient Amber
Fossilized Raptor
Common;
30 Common a lot of repeats
NIGHT ELF:
Rare;
Bone of the Transformation
Wisp Amulet
Queen Azshara's Dressing Gown
Highborne Soul Mirror
Druid and the Priest Statue Set
Common;
36 Common multiple repeats
NERUBIAN:
Rare;
Blessing of the Old God
Puzzle Box of Yogg-Sarron
Common;
10 Common items
ORC:
Rare;
Headdress of the First Shaman
Common;
11 Common Items. 1 repeat.
TOL'VIR:
Rare;
Ring of the Boy Emperor
Common:
5 no repeats. Also got 1 Canopic Jar, which had the alchemy recipe: Vial of the Sands. This I assume was complete luck.
TROLL:
Rare;
Voodoo Figurine
Haunted War Drum
Common;
49 common, multiple repeats. It is to be noted I was using my troll as a solving to ensure i got all rares on the other items. I would always solve these first.
VRYKUL:
Rare;
Nifflevar Bearded Axe
Vrykul Drinking Horn
Common;
12 common. few repeats.
So in total I have solved a total of 206 items in all. Out of this 206 items I have solved I've made 22 rares and 98 common. Meaning for every 2 common item I make I get a rare. I would love to see someone with stats like that. Further more this leaves me with only 10 more rare items to make. Also I have completed most common items for all the races but dwarf and tol'vir. I'll post my final tally.
评论来自
798524
I've just passed 2000 troll solves ... no Zin'Rokh.
:(
评论来自
457882
Approaching 800 solves here. Zin'roth and the dwarf staff are the only 2 I have left to dig up. Oh Archaeology, they should have left you buried.
评论来自
798524
Just got this after ~4000 troll solves.
:S
评论来自
saintangr
841 troll solves atm ><
评论来自
TheLustful
If it would get me this sword, I would kill EVERY troll npc in the game. I would burn their homes, salt the earth, and dance on their graves in the pale moonlight.
评论来自
GiveMeZinrokh
Just got both the troll sword and the dwarf staff this morning
dwarf solves: 887
troll solves: 1152
评论来自
627828
Seeing as this weapon is now redundant (Masterwork Elementium Deathblade is better for most classes, and far easier to acquire) I'm thinking Blizz should lower its rarity a bit so, those of us with several thousand solves, can feel this pointless grind was worth something at least.
评论来自
elephont
It's Rokhin'!
评论来自
902152
correct me if im wrong, but isint this bis till firelands.
评论来自
katinja
Can we get some more braggers in here? think we could all use a sign of hope to increase our own motivation and know that it IS out there. :b
评论来自
endersblade
I love that they slapped a >unique< tag on this. I had one, and was about to solve another on another character and planned on DW'ing these on my TG war. When I found the first one, it was NOT unique, I only noticed the new unique tag when trying to solve the second one. GG blizzard.
评论来自
914535
Anyone have any success stories about this sword to make me feel better?
评论来自
582884
is it possible to get 2 of them?
评论来自
914535
I hear that it's easier to get if you are below level 85? any truth to that?
评论来自
Whoisthiscook
the handle seen through the model viewer.. :/
EDIT: It was bugged at the time this was posted.
评论来自
ashriana
Got this after only 42 Troll solves!
评论来自
TheMitigator
Ugh, this thing is killing me. I know there are so many better 2handers that are easily obtainable but im so stubbern I just have to get it. About 3 weeks of farming 298 Troll Solves , 773 total solves. Ugh.
评论来自
932056
Will i be able to send this to my other characters from my main.
评论来自
937502
Faction - Alliance
Server - Proudmoore
Race - Draenei
Character Gender - Female
Class - Hunter
Achievement points- 7550
Professions:
Enchanting=525
Jewelcrafting=535
Archaeology=525
Fishing=525
Cooking=525
First Aid=525
Played= 174 Days, 5hours, 54 minutes, 43 secounds.
At level 85. 90 Days, 3 hours, 52 minutes, 51 secounds.
Average gear level 389
Troll
辛洛斯,诸界的毁灭者
-0
寄魂战鼓
-1
巫毒雕像
-1
阿塔莱节杖
-12
玉币手镯
-12
赤红宝石
-15
达卡莱献祭之刃
-15
诡异的燃棘神像
-13
羽饰黄金耳环
-15
希里克神像
-15
精致的血顶餐具
-16
加兹瑞拉雕像
-15
红目玉角蝰
-13
蜥蜴脚足咒符
-17
头骨形种植器
-21
镶金假牙
-13
赞达拉巫毒人偶
-10
_________________________Edit_______________
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2742/wowscrnshot012112172707.jpg
辛洛斯,诸界的毁灭者
-1
寄魂战鼓
-1
巫毒雕像
-1
阿塔莱节杖
-13
玉币手镯
-13
赤红宝石
-19
达卡莱献祭之刃
-17
诡异的燃棘神像
-15
羽饰黄金耳环
-19
希里克神像
-17
精致的血顶餐具
-18
加兹瑞拉雕像
-17
红目玉角蝰
-15
蜥蜴脚足咒符
-20
头骨形种植器
-23
镶金假牙
-16
赞达拉巫毒人偶
-11
Popped at 3:25pm server time at , Southmoon Ruins , in Tanaris
评论来自
Grokironhide
im up to 72 turn ins without seeing it did they reduce the drop rate of it by alot or somthing
72 turn ins and your complaining about them possibly reducing the drop rate?
Try 638 turn ins.
Troll
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds-0
Haunted War Drum-1
Voodoo Figurine-1
Atal'ai Scepter-49
Bracelet of Jade and Coins-44
Cinnabar Bijou-59
Drakkari Sacrificial Knife-41
Eerie Smolderthorn Idol-40
Feathered Gold Earring-42
Fetish of Hir'eek-34
Fine Bloodscalp Dinnerware-58
Gahz'rilla Figurine-47
Jade Asp with Ruby Eyes-44
Lizard Foot Charm-51
Skull-Shaped Planter-43
Tooth with Gold Filling-46
Zandalari Voodoo Doll-44
Wish they would buff the damn drop rate on this thing, it's not even close to BIS anymore.
Best sword model in the game, bar maybe Ashbringer.
评论来自
IceWolfDK
Zin'Rokh popped today for me in kalimdor, 82 troll solves. Wasnt even trying for it, was looking for the Nelf trinket or more tolvir rares. Sitting at nearly 300 nelf solves without trinket :(
*tosses Zinrokh into the bank and forgets about it, being a rogue*
Hrm, rng for Archy seems on my side of late. Today, the day after Zin'rohk, i found Recipe: Vial of the Sands. Now to hope for something else tomorrow!
评论来自
Thiagorz
Popped today on Azralon-US (BR) server after 450 troll solves!
Yesterday I got the dwarf staff after =~ 300 dwarf solves!
Tip: Don't give up.
Thank u RNG!
评论来自
fizor
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Lives. lawl
评论来自
Dorfie
Sigh,
even now it still elopes me;
It still is a great item to have for any levelling alt and will be great/handy to have as an upgrade for future alts when MoP hits the shelves, spesh if you mix it up with a crafted 2h etc as a starting weapon basis
It looks great and regardless its still a "must have item" - to all those that have it - i hate you and FU RNG
To all of those that still havent got it, keep going - it will make the reward of it "popping" that all much tastier !
GIVE NOW !
评论来自
Woohoomeister
Ok this is getting out of hand.... 2011 troll solves and NO sword !
I've been reading what everyone is posting "don't give up, you will eventually get it" LIARS! :P
i submitted a screenshot as proof
ht tp://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/zinrokh.jpg/
评论来自
956081
"This sword will be mine!"
*3 weeks later w/ hundreds of troll solves*
;_; "I give up"
评论来自
966132
To see just how unlucky you are, use this macro with your archeology tab open showing all completed artifacts.
/run local a=0 for y=1,GetNumArtifactsByRace(8) do local t=select(9,GetArtifactInfoByRace(8,y)); a=a+t; end print("Troll: " .. a .. " solves, ~"..(a*29) .." fragments ("..floor(1000*(1-(0.995^a)))/10 .. "% chance to have found the sword by now.)");
Here is mine, Troll: 574 solves, ~16646 fragments (94.3% chance to have found the sword by now.)
and I still don't have the sword. I knew my luck was bad before I started this grind though, I roll under a 50 more than 80-90% of the time. sometimes never over 60 in a 100 rolls...... lol It's a game of RNG, and if you've been lucky in the past, odds are you will be lucky here.
things to look at are, do you have all the rare legendarys /mount drops? maybe a few? Old ZA/ZG ones? If you do have a few, you're considered slightly lucky, if you got them all, you're lucky. Proof? Friend of mine has them all, i told him to level archeology and see if he can get it before me, and he got it as his 6th rare solve.
I have every rare, and item available from archeology except this, am I lucky? nope........they have a higher drop rate. Best of luck.. lol I'll update if i ever get it. I may have better luck leveling a new character and grinding archeology for this.
评论来自
Ciada
Well, I am apparently the luckiest archy in the world, did the macro, 34 solves roughly 986 fragments and I've got it now to solve. Unfortunately, the gear level is way to low for any of my toons, and I feel really crappy about that, don't even have a baby toon to give to. Putting safely in the bank for the future. Good luck, wasn't looking for this......now, if I could only get one of the ground mounts.
评论来自
973266
OMG just got this bad boy and I can say my DK never looked better, I must agree Arch is a very painful profession. But after this it was all worth it, next id the fossil mount. Hope I have hair left and its worth it. lol have a great day... Woot Woot.
评论来自
Ventros
Epic foreshadowing?
评论来自
christiantroy
I know people gonna rage and downrate this but still I wanted to post. I'm solving this as my 133th Troll solve a total of 1039 solves. This lovely sword qued in Kalimdor while I was searching for Tol'vir sword and staff since I have other Tol'vir rares including Scepter of Azj'Aqir and Crawling Craw pet. I wish good luck to everyone who's after this sword.
Salute.
Click For Screenshot of the Solve
评论来自
989976
I think you should get achievement ''Lucky SoaB'' to go with this.
评论来自
wtaket
well troll archeology is troll
评论来自
992551
Still farming this. Still pulling my hair out on a daily baisis - currently now bald.
501 Troll solves - No sword
6 Vrykul solves - Nifflevar Bearded Axe
245 Tol'vir - Scepter of Azj'Aqir
Surely it will drop at some point....surelly :'-( Cheers me up reading success stories but then I've just seen the image archonx64 posted.
评论来自
987327
Just got it today! Only been archey capped about 2 weeks so its still obtainable.
Its so undergeared, its just guna take up bank space now = /. With as "epic" as it is and i mean i wouldnt know (ive only farmed it for a week) but apparently impossible to get - they really shoulda had it scale up in stats like they did the blacksmithing vicious. Maybe make it a 384 or even 378 ilvl? Just my opinion. Zin'rokh is a choose one isnt she, lol
评论来自
1003125
Can you transmog it?
评论来自
1012634
a question if I get this sword could you put in the auction to sell?
评论来自
1014411
So I already have a zin'rokh on my warrior. Say I make a DK on another server could I find another one of these if it was on a diffferent server?
评论来自
mictri
Im at 320 troll solves and zin hasnt procced yet . Spoke with a GM , he said you will MOST LIKELY have it before 500 troll solves . I asked about drop rate and he said he couldnt say but my number that i was stating wasnt all wrong (which was around 1% proc rate) so that puts it around 1-2% proc rate, he also told me that it rolls everytime you solve a troll project so it doesnt matter how many you have solved in total.
Therefore, this item is one of the only pure RNG based items left in WOW as of this patch and you will simply need RNG luck and keep going until it procs for you. It IS working as intended and it is proccing at intended rate the GM assured me severel times and we just need to keep working on it..
Ps. I will update WHEN i get zin. Wish me luck ;)
Btw, i have all the other things you can get in Eastern Kingdoms so i only have Dwarf staff and Zin left to solve on Eastern Kingdoms , therefore im almost exclusively getting troll and dwarf digsites (a few fossil in between).
EDIT (5´th of January): I FINALLY GOT IT :D After 442 troll solves it popped up as my next solve and im officially done with archaeology :D Good luck to all and dont give up no matter what !
评论来自
1011479
Hunter weapon.
评论来自
Topezi
Got this after 36 hours of grinding.
I was getting desperate, when reading the other comments. =P
评论来自
473316
I'm going to have to agree with an approximate drop rate of 0.5%, just based on other user accounts and my personal experiences. Obviously I could be totally wrong, there's no way to know without a much more rigorous study or hearing it from Blizzard themselves and there could be other factors which affect the chance, but 0.5% feels about right.
It's not that rare to hear of people who go 500+ solves before seeing the sword or other lvl 85 archaeology epics. At a drop rate of 1%, these people would be a fairly large statistical outlier (only 0.65% of archaeologists still would not have found the sword by their 500th solve) so it doesn't make sense that your hear it so often, unless their numbers aren't accurate for some reason. At a rate of 0.5%, the numbers are more consistent with what you hear from others (8% of archaeologists still would not have found the sword by their 500th solve). Similarly, if the drop rate were 1%, you would hear of more people achieving it within 50-100 solves, while it seems more common to hear people say they got it on their 150-250th solve, which is again more consistent with a drop rate of 0.5%.
Again, this is just guessing, I could be totally wrong, but it feels about right to me.
评论来自
Thiagorz
Too bad RNG has some irony.
I already have this sword after 450+ troll solves on my main (Death Knight);
Today, farming arch on my mage (my new main on MoP), this thing procs after 4 troll solves (I'm grinding Professor Title).
This is pure irony..
评论来自
TGFseb15
Wouldn't be a proper troll weapon without a mob of people going mad whenever it gets mentioned.
评论来自
SinistralJay
For those of you lucky warlocks who hate to see
辛洛斯,诸界的毁灭者
gathering dust on an alt or in a bank, your Felguard/Wrathguard can equip it with
恶魔卫士雕文
.
评论来自
Thiagorz
Anyone notice that Zin'rokh model (graphics) are so bad in Patch 5.0.4 ?
评论来自
1036326
No longer the best weapon reward after MoP.. best weapon now is
雪怒之矛
suitable for Monks and Druids, you can equip it on 85 lvl and has the stats of high 90's weapons!
评论来自
gamedotwow
I first spotted this back in WotLK when Cataclysm items were first beig introduced on WowHead. We are now in Mists of Pandaria.
Still awesome.
评论来自
1050247
Currently up to 641 troll solves and still no sword. Is there anything Im doing wrong? Am I not shouting at my computer enough? Do I need to throw more stuff at walls to get this damned thing? Or do I just need to keep plugging away and hope for the best?
评论来自
987327
So I just got this drop 10/31/12 so its still out there. Was pretty excited even though its only for xmog at this point.
Real reason I'm posting this is not to brag or boast but to throw this at ya. I had won 3rd prize in the cloud serpent "race" and got a strange buff. When i checked the details it says "great things come in 3s" or something along the lines of that. Shortly after I got a rare pet, destroyer of worlds from archy AND a super rare ilvl470 off hand off of a common monster doing a daily (cloud serpent dailies) so.... Food for thought, next time.....maybe get 3rd place buff then hit some raids?
评论来自
1051682
8149 fragments and 280 troll solves, then i got it ^^
评论来自
1058778
Good stats, and it looks cool, but it's just too large IMO... best of luck to those working to get it though!
评论来自
Dondonian
830 solves got it tonight, so happy been trying to get it since start of cata
评论来自
1068815
Good afternoon everyone, I currently have a 90 Ret working towards this rare troll solve. I am wondering if the proc still appears in MoP content. My archaeology skill is 600 with 128 solves, just wondering if I can still even receive the proc, due to the new expansion.
评论来自
infamiss
Ive been trying to get this since start of cata what is the best why too farm for it pandaria or easternkingdoms?
评论来自
infamiss
Ive been trying really really really hard at this sword just wont drop i would say pandaren and mogu archeology for peeps like me that are at 600 cause it takes too long too fly too the otherside of eastern kindoms and back plus its hard too get troll at that lvl anyway plus pandaren and mogu there special find things give them 20 fragment easterkingdoms only get 12 fragments a special ive been useing my spirit of harmonys on the boxes aswell good luck guys!
评论来自
Kloverman
144 Troll solves and i had it drop for me so im happy :)
评论来自
Kaathe
It's proven that 99.7% of the people die of aging before obtaining this item
评论来自
Tarumuat
Patch 5.1 is here... and still no damn sword.
评论来自
1053311
After 28 Troll solves, i got the sword, nice transmog for a Blood DK.
评论来自
Kuchiro
Unlocked it on the 2/4/13 I'm was overjoy'ed with excitement!
评论来自
Carthage
Got it as my 200th troll solve. was very excited.
评论来自
Kemaria
Yawning, the little paladin knuckled her back as she sauntered into her room at the Silvermoon City Inn. It had been a full day of pet battles and adventure seeking, but all thoughts of a hot meal and a hot bath vanished as soon as she saw a long, cloth-wrapped package resting on her bed. Suspiciously, the little paladin opened the sealed note resting on top.
To my paladin friend,
Here is your stinking sword. This is it. I am never doing any archaeology again. I quit. I am changing my name and moving to another realm, where I shall take up the life of a hermit and dwell in solitude with only my pets for company. I am warning you. DO NOT try to find me.
The little hunter
Gasping in delight, the little paladin tore the wrappings off of the package, and the room glowed faintly with the lightning sheen of the immense jagged sword. She took it up with shrieks of delight that were audible outside through the open window, where the little hunter was hiding camouflaged near the entrance to the inn, waiting to be sure that the sword reached its new owner.
The little hunter was but a shade of her former self, driven wan and thin by the throes of constant archaeology digging. It had begun so innocently, after all. First, finding the
配方:时沙之瓶
. Then, her little rogue friend had wanted the
热风弯刀
. She'd agreed - one did favors for friends, after all. But then, right on the heels of her success with the Tol'vir sword, her little paladin friend had asked her to find
辛洛斯,诸界的毁灭者
.
Well and bitterly over many weeks did the little hunter feel how mired and trapped she was in archaeology, how endless the digging, how lengthy the travel times from site to site, and how often hopes of "maybe after
this
solve..." were dashed. Why did archaeology exist? What evil, magical forces spread fragments around entire continents, and why did she find herself compelled to dig for things she didn't even want? (The
诡异的燃棘神像
gave her nightmares, and if she had to
touch
just one more nasty, wrinkled
蜥蜴脚足咒符
, she would scream.) Truly, the Random Number Gods were mercurial and inscrutable in their designs, but they had finally relented at 320 troll solves, when the sword had appeared after she'd solved the umpteenth silly bangle, a
玉币手镯
.
The little hunter began moving silently out of the city, flinching in fear at the slightest sound or movement in the streets. She was desperately afraid that this was not the end of her adventures, because it always seemed that some unseen yet powerful force kept making her search for rare items. Despite her note to the paladin, she planned to hide in Eversong Woods and keep a low profile for a while. (Although at some point, she really needed to visit a troll spa in Sen'jin Village to get a long-overdue facial and have her nails tended, as they were quite ragged from so much digging.
This
time, however, she would
insist
that they
not
give her dreadlocks and a bone in her nose. So unsuitable!) She remembered the little murloc huts along the shores as seeming quite snug to stay in, and the golden beaches were quite lovely and soothing. Surely the murlocs would be friendly and wouldn't make her look for anything... Hope thus battling with anxiety, the little hunter made her way through the golden trees, and soon left the city far behind her.
~~~~~
Other adventures of the little hunter:
The Disgusting Oozeling
The Time-Lost Proto Drake
The Vial of the Sands recipe
The Sea Turtle mount
The Scimitar of the Sirocco
~~~~~
Don't give up on the sword! Just do a little archaeology at a time so the constant disappointments don't overwhelm you, but make a habit of doing it frequently. I usually did a few sites per day, treating it like I would a daily quest. Do something else while you fly from site to site, like watching TV, reading a book, doing homework, housework, etc. It helps make archaeology feel less like a worthlessly random timesink of a profession if you're actually accomplishing something else at the same time. Good luck!
评论来自
Stryker666
Hopefully this will cheer some of you up!
I managed to get Zin'Rokh after 43 solves I think it was.
Then I changed realm and... Forgot my Zin'Rokh.
Spoke to a GM who refused to send it over to me, so now I have to farm Troll Fragments all over again!
Lets hope it doesn't take me as long as some of you guys!
Happy hunting!
评论来自
Noxheart
Do you still have to be 450 to get it since it says 75?
评论来自
860303
I use 10 hours to level my archaeology to 600, all the way i got nothing,
and on 117 solve on troll, i got this sword.
From an "unlearned-archaeology" till i got this sword, took me 48 hours none sleeping ;p
but worth it
now ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
评论来自
1110816
DAT WEAPON!.
awesome for transmog ..wow
评论来自
Filipse
To quote Vishnu from the hindu-scripture Bhagavad Gita, and through it J. Robert Oppenheimer,
as per following the atomic bombing in Japan 1945
"Now i am become death, the destroyer of worlds."
评论来自
1073521
277 troll solves and this baby pops.
Was seriously beginning to think it was a myth. RNG is a cruel, cruel mistress.
GL to everyone else farming this badboy, don't loose hope and keep at it :)
评论来自
1118954
I thought of farming this for a really cool X-mog so i've been farming eastern kingdoms for troll fragments. I am currently at 251 troll solves and still have not gotten it.Pretty much got all the other rares in old world except this.Starting to wonder if maybe they could have designed this better..like..you need kindof a failsafe when you're this RNG about a drop.Say, give a token per artifact completed, then allow a bunch of those to be traded in for some of these items...make it expensive, does not matter..as long as there is a guarantee.
评论来自
mahe4
still good for transmogrification!
评论来自
1121147
Got this today after leveling arch to use the new/old exploit/bug found with
螳螂妖遗物声波定位仪
, took 220 solves.
Now for my routine which made this farm only slightly painful and take a grand total of about 4-5 hours. I was doing 50 solves a day which took an hour, to and hour and half with the mantid locator in my bags which randomizes all dig sites, even though it just says "pandaria." The videos using this item typically suggest that changing zones resets the digsites, however, I found that re-logging not only works, but is much faster and easier 90% of the time unless you finish your dig site right next to another zone. So with this bug, that is either not a bug, or blizzard just doesn't care, You can sit in your zone of choice farming whatever faction fragments you want endlessly, as long as you have mantid sonar item in your bags which costs 1 restored pandaren artifact from the arch QM in Vale. STV I found worked best for troll solves, even though switching between the north/south zones did NOT reset the dig sites, that's where re-logging worked much better. For me, Uldum is next, but I am probably only going to do no more than 25 a day on those.
Hope that helped, for me setting a goal of solves to finish then quit and give it a break until the next day made it much less tedious. However, if this is a bug, Blizz might finally fix it or change it, however I have read some comments saying that GM's have said it is "working as intended" although the posters didn't back it up with any links or blue text so I am not sure if that is true. In any case, you might want to start farming while it lasts and see where it goes from there. I won't touch arch again if they revert the randomized dig sites.
Also on a side note, I found the various arch addons to be more annoying than helpful, so if you have carbonite, using the tracking for arch, which places a mark where the digs are, was much better and minimal and saved me loads of time.
评论来自
653842
Today Was A Good Day !
评论来自
Sibanak
Just want to let you guys know that it is still possible to get this weapon. It took me 573 solves to get it. Good luck
评论来自
Bahthalend
Really starting to think the bloodscalp dinnerware was put in just to troll people looking for zin rohk. Everytime it comes up i get excited for a split second then really sad.
评论来自
Osskaar2
Ok I have done 600 solves and it still have not dropped. I will keep going until I get it but just know before farming this that the drop rate is VERY low, gl on obtaining this awesome sword guys.
评论来自
1128594
Took me over 1500 solves, 1589 to be exactly. Started in beginning of cataclysm and just finished it to night. Never again i say.
评论来自
1129747
Dang I'm getting depressed reading that people have gotten over 1000 troll solves and not getting anything. I'm approaching 800 solves and do nothing else but arch for this sword. I have, 89's and 1, 85 an instead of leveling them I wasted time on this sword. It's only good for xmog (the only reason why I want it is for my salts xmog because I use 1h's) so why don't they raise the drop chance by a bit. I already solved every other rare in eastern kingdoms. Im not giving up on it yet but yeah, its very depressing reading all this
#$%^ blizzard and its stupid rng!
评论来自
Heinrichh
I was doing some archaeology with my girlfriend and I came across this item, quite wicked I may add. GL to those attempting to unearth this Destroyer of Worlds.
评论来自
1135138
This was my 2040th Troll solve, appearing after solving a common at Gurubashi Arena in Stranglethorn. It was my 5994th solve overall in Archaeology.
评论来自
1136988
Hi guys,
Still trucking along with Archaeology - I'm currently at 545 troll solves and nothing.
If you want it bad, keep going at it BUT TAKE BREAKS. You WILL BURN OUT; and you will end up with NOTHING.
Meanwhile.. to make use of my time; I've been doing 2 sit ups and 2 push ups after every troll site I get :>
I can feel the burn!
Edit: Hello friends, as of 8/19/2013 - I'VE FINALLY GOTTEN THE SWORD. IT STILL EXISTS AS OF PATCH 5.3!
It took 741 tries in total on my warlock, I have uploaded 2 screenshots of victory!
Once again, if you are grinding for it - just keep at it! Don't give up and take breaks!
评论来自
shortbob
appeared as next solve for me at my 156th troll solve i was 600 archeology and used keystones to secure as many solves as possible! zin'rokh fits awsome with the wrath gears recolor from outland dungeons. also you can look exactly like bloodlord mandokir with the tarnished fanatics set including parts from the shatttrath vendor. anyhow im really glad ive aquired this majestic piece of gear!
评论来自
1136093
Currently at 423 solves, nothing. I'm seriously doubting if it's worth it.
评论来自
zanyyy
After 340 on my Main and 71 solves with my alt which needs the sword.
411 Solves.
Dont give up guys!
评论来自
1118954
I am at nearly 1500 solves across all my toons and still no zin rokh.This is craziness..Why is there no token system?
评论来自
1147643
keep purging on guys i just got it today after 2 years. completely worth it. its still there for the taking.
评论来自
853046
You guys are wimps, trying getting a Timelost.
I have both Zin and the TImelost...bwaa haa haa....
Both are worth it!
评论来自
Saucery
years later and i still do not have this, pretty sure it dosnt exist.
评论来自
TerracottaDK
So nowadays you just do regular troll solves in order to try and discover this baby? no need for having that 150 fragments or 3 tablets and all that stuff i read about?
评论来自
1187740
I'm convinced that the probability of getting the ability to solve this is lower than 1%. 1000+ solves and still nothing.
评论来自
MohisMuhis
1425 troll solves and not even a glimpse of this magnificent sword. I'm starting to lose hope slowly but surely when approaching the 2000 solve mark. Have been recently thinking that I should rather go for Asbringer.
UPDATE : Got Zin'Rokh at 1825 solves! Just don't give up and you will get it.
评论来自
Arktika
Finally got this today, on Troll solve #465.
Archeology summary is as follows:
Dwarf: 314
Draenei: 19
Fossil: 77
Night Elf: 130
Nerubian: 13
Orc: 20
Tol'vir: 20
Troll: 465
Vrykul: 17
Total: 1075
As many have mentioned, don't give up and don't do too much in a single day.
My Fury Warrior will now enjoy 'dual-wielding' this baby. :]
评论来自
omfgalex
285 troll solves till I got it, like everyone else said, keep all the fragments till you get to 450 level archaeology, don't waste them with leveling, use the dwarf or other ones.
IT TOOK AROUND 50 HOURS, don't try to get this until you want to actually waste this much time, it is not easy, maybe you get lucky in 30 solved, but be sure to either not start or to think about this before starting, it is a big time sink !
评论来自
1361182
Keep on trying guys! After some time you will eventually get it! Just don't burn yourself out! The feeling you get when you see this pop up in you archeology tab is so worth it. Good luck to you all!
评论来自
1366472
I'm up at 1765troll solves atm... will never get it:SSS
评论来自
Drakal
To find this sword i had to farm "45750 Troll Fragments" which is "1830 Troll Solves"
This was the worst grind i ever done in my 10 year's' Wow career. I've done it on multiple characters cuz i also lvled my alt's this way. For the rest of the people that still farming this bastard, dont give up! It will drop sooner or later..... :)
http://i.imgur.com/r9DCFZo.jpg?1
评论来自
Magnusofironforg
You get extra points for wielding this on a troll DK
评论来自
Cunderwood
Best thing if you are Level 90 and able to fly around MoP.
Step 1. Go to any dig sites in MoP get 2 crates ( buy completing items for any race in MoP)
Step 2. Bring the 2 crates to Seat of Knowledge above Mogu raid instance.
Step 3. Talk to Brann Bronzebeard and buy
Step 4. Open the Kit and use both items make sure is the second one you use.
Step 5. Go dig Mantid Sites for a while and crate of artifacts
Step 6. Return to Brann and trade in crates for .
This is the quickest way to found to get troll fragments. You will usually get about 5-13 Troll Fragments per crate.
Usually get about 100 fragments roughly for 20 crates.
The mantid sites are only spread through Dread Waste and Townlong and the sites are compact so quicker digs.
Hope this helps out if your tired of bothering with Fossils and them hated Dwarf sites.
评论来自
synthesis0
719 solves and more than 20.000 fragments, no sword.
I've got the insane title, but this is REALLY driving me crazy.
评论来自
Grimnyr
Sadly I do not have the sword yet, as of now this is what my summary looks like:
Dwarf: 375
Draenei: 11
Fossil: 108
Night Elf: 118
Nerubian: 15
Orc: 10
Tol'vir: 99
Troll: 847
Vrykul: 11
Mantid: 824
Pandaren: 290
Mogu: 417
Total: 3125
I have spent hundreds of hours on archaeology. I already have all the achievements. All I want is this sword but I'm really starting to lose hope. All I can say is unless you REALLY want this sword do not bother beginning with this grind. The only reason I'm still going is because I've already spent so much time on this that I don't want it all to be for nothing.
评论来自
vagos1990
After trying to find something that matches my
雷翼劫猎者的伪装
set for my DK i found this beauty and decided that i wanted it !
So i started farming it in the eastern kingdoms (after trying pandaria which WAS a LOT slower,contrary to what some people say) and being a death knight it was a lot easier because of the
黑锋之门
and my hearthstone being set in STV. After 4 days farming it for 8-9 straight hours i found that what suited me better was farm a maximum of 188 Troll Fragments, because of using the
巨魔石板
giving you an extra 12 so i wouldnt get past the 200, then solving them all at once which most of the times resulsted in 6-8 artifacts. On the 4th day though right before going to sleep i was going to do it one last time and i got this
http://i.imgur.com/3I6AxqC.jpg
which made extremely happy and felt rewarded for the ~32 hours i spend on this.
My advice to you is keep the hope up and most of all keep the FARMING up ! I wish you all find it soon enough to NOT quit !
评论来自
1252871
Just got extremely lucky. Unfortunately, for this luck to happen, I had to use about 60
祥和之灵
between my 3 maxed archaeologists on Proudmoore. I didn't do any digging, just decided I wanted my warrior to dual wield this thing.
For those who have a nice store of Spirits saved up for some random project, this is what you saved them for. Assuming you have access to
克里斯托
at the
七星殿
and that you have at least 1 maxed archaeologist (skill level 600), take your Spirits to
克里斯托
and buy up as many
修复的遗物
as you want. Then go to the 2nd level of
魔古山宫殿
(aka, The Seat of Knowledge), speak to
布莱恩·铜须
, click "Let me in on your other projects", buy up however many
一箱巨魔考古碎片
s you want.....You will need a lot and you will go thru Spirits of Harmony, unless you are luckier than me....I went thru 60 for this sword and I consider myself lucky after reading some of these posts. Open up your
考古学
IU and start right clicking the
一箱巨魔考古碎片
s. You can only gather up to 200 fragments max. I also invested in about 35-40
巨魔石板
s, just to move things along. from here, you should know the drill. Learn, learn, learn until you trip over this sword.
And just to sympathize with those who have been searching for this one for a while, I am going on month 30 searching for MINFERNAL! At this point, I only want him so I can kill him myself. Good luck to all.
评论来自
BBrizz
I have been farming this sword for over a week. I've been using the method of obtaining Pandaria Archaeology finds and trading them to Brann Bronzebeard in the Seat of Knowledge for Troll finds. After 265 solves and 7685 fragments I have yet to come across this sword.
Be prepared for a long tough grind fellow Archaeologists. I would recommend taking breaks and not mindlessly grind for hours at a time. Keep faith that it will show up in your log one day.
Good luck to everyone!
评论来自
Phate08
After maxing out archeology at 700 and then farming this for over 170 hours I am finally one of the fortunate to call Zin'rokh mine. Perseverance and luck are what you need, so don't give up. The day I got it was literally the happiest I've ever been playing WoW.
Good luck to those of you in search of it, and remember it is account bound not character bound.
评论来自
alle38
Been farming this damn sword for several weeks straight, still nothing.
I've gotten the other 2 359 epics but no damn zin'rokh yet.
Here are my stats atm:
Dwarf: 942
Fossil: 210
Night Elf: 83
Nerubian: 27
Troll: 1143
Mantid: 11
Pandaren: 6
Mogu: 9
Troll: 1143 solves, ~33147 fragments (99.5% chance to have found the sword by now.)
99.5% chance, yeah right
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EDIT: At 1800 solves and 55k fragments, still no sword. Arching ever closer to the 2k solve point and this sword is nowhere to be seen.
Starting to think it's merely a myth and people on this site are in on a practical joke that I'm not.
Damn this sword to hell.
评论来自
451532
Today, I decided to use up my Restored Artifacts on all Tol'vir fragment crates and just enough for one troll solve; I hadn't even touched archaeology since I maxed it in mists a year or two ago.
Being the super casual archaeologist I am I was so amazed to see it especially after doing very very few total troll solves, maybe like 20 max. I would understand completely if you guys hate me lol. But you never know! It could be just around the corner for those of you hunting for it still...
评论来自
Vraxus
For your info i'm pretty sure the drop rate is like 0.05%, in other words, 1/2000 troll solves.
Got mine after about 1800 solves, not sure on exact number. Farmed on multiple toons also.
评论来自
Yogthsothoth
I have timelost proto drake and a voidtalon but THIS thing has eluded me for years. I have a palpable hate-boner whenever I think of this thing.
评论来自
Drensdk1
Finally got this baby today after 187 troll solves on my dk..
All i can really say that it is a really great sword and after you get it all the farming you have done feels worth it,,, So good luck every farmer out there it still exist at 6.2.2 and never give up! :)
评论来自
montii
114 solves closer is how I see it. I refuse to accept defeat, no matter how improbable the odds might be. Something that's improbable is still infinitely more likely than anything impossible. I'm only just getting started.
评论来自
incore97
I finally got it after
200-250
~ solves. (My macro counted 186 but it was a bit "bugged" as the numbers went up and down during this grind).
Took me roughly 4 days of constant farming. It was mentally frustrating, tiring and the most boring grind I've ever done :)
But if you are desperate for this sword, by all means go for it!
My method: Fly up and down in
Eastern Kingdoms
and clear
every
digsite on your way, set Hearthstone in (
Booty Bay
). Since I rolled a DK I also use
黑锋之门
.
The discovery: imgur.com/a/3LXU8
评论来自
Broscience
Got mine after about 300 solves. Worst grind I've ever committed to, bar none. I recommend you listen to comedy routines or podcasts to get you through it.
评论来自
puresmokey
Well I just got mine after 708 solves, not too bad of a grind. Grateful I didn't have a hard time with it considering some of the horror stories I've heard, keep your head up and it'll pop before you know it :)
评论来自
hottestcupcakehd
I am so very grateful that now I am also one of the owners of this item. I literally let out little scream when this popped up.
My count is 129 Troll solves and I have got all Fossil items, all Dwarf items except the staff, had my first Night Elf rare project on and also nerubian puzzle box project was available at the time. I do have some rare from Pandaria archaeology(4 in total I think).
I started farming Arch. by farming only in Eastern Kingdom(saving as many troll fragments as possible before I hit the pre-requisite level and skills) and just before I got the item today I have been farming in Pandaria. However, this diversion from Eastern Kingdom turned out to be not so desirable as after a while I started to have Pandaria rare projects popping up and this reduced the number of artifacts I could trade at the seat of knowledge.
One of the reasons why I tried Pandaria was because at the time I constantly had Dwarf sites popping up in Eastern Kingdom with nerubian and night elf sites but not many troll sites. However, I returned back to Eastern Kingdom today and had this new mind set up. I will just farm from top to bottom like I did before until I get all items from dwarf as I thought that will remove dwarf sites from EK or significantly reduce the number of dwarf sites, eventually . I finished farming all Fossil items and since then their sites never appeared in EK.
Strangely just before I got my zin'rokh I think there were only 3 or 4 sites available in the entire EK. One of them was Night Elf site in Duskwood. This was strange as this site hardly ever turned up. Maybe because I did so many other races...who knows?
When I finished 3 dwarf sites around burning steppes area. etc. troll sites turned up in STV. I immediately Hearthstoned back to Booty Bay and tried the first site which was next to Grubash arena. After I finished that site, I was on my way to the next one. As I was flying to different troll site in STV, I thought I could just try now and wow... the rest is history.
I personally would like to thank God as yesterday I was so burned out and tired and frustrated with this farming I prayed to God for help. I have the item now today and considering how many solves it requires on average I can't help but thank God.
评论来自
Ozzayel
The torture is 'partially' over. Just got it on my 550th solve.
Dwarf is another matter, 735 solves... how many more? (*cry*)
评论来自
ufnprik
I'm so horribly burn't out trying to find this. I've just cracked 1400 troll solves and I'm still yet to get this bloody sword. Got the Staff and fossil shield and nearly every other rare (except for tol'vir). I beg you RNGesus. Please proc for me :(
评论来自
Krukza
Long grind but worth, took me 523 troll solves and it finally popped yesterday! - Don't give up, only advice to this :)
评论来自
dasquee
Well, it's over. At 1839 solves on one toon and over 400 on a second, I was sure I had the worst luck in the world on this sword until it finally procced this morning.
I am now finished with Archaeology except for the 1h Sword from Tolvir but I'm planning on devoting my crates in legion to it.
Much happy, very grind.
Keep at it peeps!
评论来自
redfinale
to anybody that farms out actual troll dig sites, you're probably better off farming Draenor or even better Pandaria. Draenor has only three artifact types (draenor clans, ogre, and arrakoa) as does Pandaria (Pandaren, Mogu, and Mantid) and all six of those artifact types can convert to
修复的遗物
that can be turned into troll artifacts.
I'm more partial to Pandaria myself because you can purchase a
螳螂妖神器猎人的装备箱
that contains a
螳螂妖遗物声波定位仪
and a
游学者的地图
that forces all your Pandaria digsite to mantid for 24 hours. Mantid sites also have the ease of farming as they are ONLY in Townlong Steppes and Dread Wastes. Also, you usually get enough fragments in a Pandaria or Draenor archaeology dig site to make a find and get a restored artifact for trade in. Might take alot of finds to turn in for enough troll artifact fragments, as one turn in of a restored artifact yields only one singular find's worth of fragments (5-9), but in my opinion, it's infinitely easier than praying for a troll dig site to pop up across all of Kalimdor or Eastern Kingdoms, or having to traverse those continents.
评论来自
Ghaoithe
This procced for me after about 600 solves (534 on my main + scattered solves on alts). Overall, I found this a much easier grind than the Sirocco even though the drop rate is about the same. I really wouldn't recommend Pandaria or Draenor farming for this, as Troll sites are very plentiful on EK and will net you a good rate of fragments already. I set my Hearthstone to Stormwind so I could port there for STV sites when needed.
评论来自
Deletrix
I have been working toward this weapon literally since it was added to the game. I came for some reinforcement that I'm not crazy, but the top comments have just convinced me that I am! Anyone know of any drop rate information on this?
评论来自
SlZE
Can someone tell me if you're able to get this on a monk (or any class that can't wield 2 handed swords) then just trade it over to a different class? Thanks.
评论来自
Kurisuto
Going through all the comments here, there seems to be a mix of opinion... What is actually the most productive Troll Fragment farm? This whole time I've been flying up and down eastern kingdoms since Cataclysm to try and get this blade but I'm only at ~300 troll solves now.
评论来自
Mathurin00
Can this sword and the Dwarven Staff actually be found by a character below lvl 85? I know they can't be used by them, but can they be discovered by a sub 85 character then mailed to a character that can use them?
评论来自
junjaew
After 1649 solves, I have claimed this sword from the trolls. The trolls being Blizzard RNG'esus.
The best advice I can give is to just make this grind part of your daily routine. Personally, I set 200 fragment quota per day, then solve it all and do something else. That is what I suggest you do, because you will burn out if you try your luck grinding this out nonstop. I posted my screenshots, this surely exists, so don't give up!
评论来自
Marrik
I must be extremely lucky, I got this on my 19th solve...
评论来自
Wrathous
Started the farm thinking I would get it within 300 solves considering the comments on when people were getting it. Didnt get it at 300 and was sure It would be before 500 solves. Same thoughts when I hit 700 solves. Now over 1000 and dont know if I should give up before I never get it and I am at 2000 solves. This sword would be my most prized possession in WoW.
edit: Well at 1100 troll solves and still nothing but at 502 dwarf solves got the staff. Atleast its something...
edit: Small update. At 1540 troll solves still no sword. I dont even expect to get it anymore. I just do Arch to do it.
评论来自
crakzar
I couldn't tell you how many times I came to this page to read everyone's comments while farming this sword. Sometimes it gave me hope, other times despair, one thing is for sure though I feel a connection to all who've sought this item.
After 297 troll solves I finally got Zin'rokh!
It's an awesome sight seeing this sword on my back.
To all those still searching... don't give up. I know what you're thinking "I'm dead inside, I've grinded my ass off for so long I wont feel anything when I find it."
Don't listen to that little voice my friends, cuz it just ain't true.
评论来自
lawgeevah
Hate to say it but I must be the luckiest dude on this one. Got this thing on my 28th overall solve and 5th Troll solve on 01/24/2011 at 11:59pm CST. It is still my favorite transmog.
评论来自
NotToBrag
Got mine at 1600 Troll Solves which took forever, wouldnt recommend anyone doing it...
评论来自
arrynn
This is one of the hardest items to get in Archaeology, maybe even the MOST Rarest. I happen to have this right now but no qiraji mount in sight.
评论来自
Lanadelrey
Can someone confirm if this still drops on 7.3.5?
评论来自
Pansarform
For all of you wondering if it still drops, yes.
I obtained it 24/07-18 after only 127 solves. My best advice for getting it is using the Mantid farming technique in Pandaria and always set a goal for how long you will be farming each day to prevent yourself from getting burned out. My goal was always to spend 2 hours grinding each day which resulted in about 15-20 solves daily.
If you really want it, you'll get it.
Good luck & happy farming!
评论来自
Leafar
i see people saying that from 1/2000 troll solved has absolutely sure
that the sword appears, turns out i have solved 2107 and nothing of the sword yet i wanna cry :(
评论来自
Lance
I got quite lucky and obtained this sword after only 326 solves. I farmed this as an alliance mage in eastern kingdoms and set my hearthstone to aerie peak in the hinterlands. Good luck to those in the thousands.
评论来自
Adrena1in
For a list of the greatest greatswords, look here:
https://www.cuckhead.com/item=164334/plundered-blade-of-northern-kings#comments:id=2577930
评论来自
devourerthedk
DISCLAIMER - This sword is not easy to get and will take hundreds of finds to get.
For farming this sword i recommend doing the Mantid farm. This requires Exalted with The Lorewalkers in MoP and costs two Restored artifacts.
This lets you buy
螳螂妖神器猎人的装备箱
These dig-sites tend to be pretty small and close to each other, this makes them fast and easy to farm since the locator from the kit locks you to only mantid dig-sites which spawn in either Townlong steppes or Dread wastes. The only downside of this is they have a duration so only do this if you intend on farming allot that day.
Take this farm in small chunks, if you try all in one sitting your only going to get demoralised trying to get Zin'rokh Destroyer of time. To help the burnout it may be good to switch to old world farming like i did near the end, better than looking at bugs for hours on end.
This sword took me 179 troll finds so i got pretty lucky, and reading some of the other posts it doesn't seem to have changed at all in terms of drop chance.
Good luck if you are brave enough to farm this.
评论来自
Orvos
The best way to farm this, and any other archaeology rare you are farming for that matter, is to use
游学者的地图
and
螳螂妖遗物声波定位仪
. These items combined make it so all of your pandaria archaeology sites spawn in the
恐惧废土
. This allows you to mass farm Mantid artifacts, which by themselves do not have the coolest rares, but because all the spawn zones are so close and so small you will have very little travel time between spawn areas and you will be able to get lots of artifacts to create
修复的遗物
. You can then spend your
修复的遗物
at
布莱恩·铜须
and buy various crates of other artifact pieces.
This looks like its very inefficient because it equates to 1 mantid solve is 1 successful survey of the type you are wanting. The reason it becomes more efficient is because of how low the travel time is between the mantid locations and how small the mantid locations are. Normally the spawns that you are searching for have a random chance to appear and you may have to farm up other sites that you aren't interested in to get more of the ones you want to spawn. Not to mention having to fly back and forth between winterspring and Un'Goro.
评论来自
Leftkeywest
Does this still drop in BFA? Haven't seen anything in ages...
评论来自
Gunshark
262 mantid solved for 143 troll solved still no sign of Zinrokh; I use the mantid technique, I am a dwarf. On average I say I do around 35-40 mantid solves per hour (I don't farm more than 1 hour per session) which is usually around 12-16 troll solves. I tried in eastern kingdoms but I kept having dwarf sites, was able to solve only 5-13 trolls in one hour. I suggest to put on some music while you do it. The best race class combination: dwarf paladin
评论来自
Leafar
This is it people after 3163 troll solved and nothing of the sword, all i can say is give up this sword is not worth it, life is very short, do not waste your time like i did
评论来自
Coberthas
One hell of a grind, but got it on the 139th solve
评论来自
kallelzza
Just got it, 126th solve, I feel extremely lucky after reading some of the comments here.
评论来自
jkmuch
218 solves on my warrior
(including some under 450)
35 solves on my rogue.
They say you have a 100% chance to get a rare proc before you get duplicates but my first rare proc on my rogue was the number 35 solve. My rogue started archeology in cata when it was released so this was maybe patched in later.
and finally
40 on my warlock
before the mighty proc. oh man the feeling. I will never use another transmog again.
that puts me at
293 Troll solves!
Figured I might aswell level alts while doing archeology so the time investment wasn't for nothing.
Started on the 9/june-19 and got the drop the 23/june-19 so quite the intensive farm. Just short of going insane.
I would render the
drop chance to be 0,1%, meaning the probability to be 25% after 300 solves
putting me on the lucky side of the fence.
Arguably it can be 1% but I don't believe so seeing all the high numbers of troll solves. but if we calculate the probability based on the
1% drop chance, it would be a 95% probability of getting it after 300 solves.
The best way to farm this is to level up archeology fresh on an alt and don't do any troll solves before 450 so that after the 450 mark you can get your first rare before duplicates, significantly increasing your chances since proc chance only would be divided among the 3 rares.
My friends call me a china farmer and I just can't help it, so now im off to farm the Battle tank.
Best of luck to all of you seeking to find it!
评论来自
rbranston
1000+ troll solves and no Zin'rokh, Destroyer Of Worlds sadly. This is arguablY the most difficult item and surely most difficult weapon to obtain in the game if your counting by labor hours.
评论来自
Luqqy2
It finally happened. I went through the biggest grind I felt like I ever did farming the tol'vir bug mount, but I decided to finally dedicate time to farming this thing and get it before 9.0
I got ~200 solves on my main before deciding to try and go a different route. I pieced together a ton of posts on here and listening to random people who were archaeology/transmog enthusiasts on discord and actually make alts leveling up archaeology, since you're "guaranteed" to get your first rare when you reach ~525 within 10 solves.
Go figure, I tried this and both times on two characters I got both of the other troll rares before I did 10 total troll solves on that character. But the one thing I realized after the fact was that I couldn't do the mantid way of farming (which I didn't even prefer, tbh) because of the rep, and all of the eastern kingdom sites on my alts kept popping up as fossil and dwarf and barely any troll. On my main, I had everything solved from Eastern Kingdoms available races except for this sword from troll, so I felt like every other digsite was popping troll for me.
Total solves for troll was 264. I actually jumped out of my chair and cheered when it popped and freaked out my girlfriend :)
Don't give up, guys. If you want to make this a little easier I would highly suggest farming in Eastern Kingdoms and just using the flight points as you cleared throughout the continent. It offers you some time to get up, walk around, take a break and it makes the grind honestly not that bad with this "forced pacing"
评论来自
Blakmane
Considering how freaking ugly and horribly textured this deformed thing is (because there's no way this is a sword) I completely wonder why someone would spend countless hours farming it. Hell, I wonder how on earth someone got paid to create this abomination when we have pieces of gear from that very same era of the game that are works of art.
评论来自
Teef
Obtained after 638 Troll solves
评论来自
Recon209
im almost at 1000 troll solves and this item keeps alluding me since cata... im lossing my mind i farm this for hours on end and yet nothing to show for it....
评论来自
Rubysh
8th troll research...I guess RNG was on my side. KEK
评论来自
Sapsens
at 1257 troll solves and nothing... someone here that got it recently ?
评论来自
Kivessi
I wanted to make a post about this specific item because I feel like archeology is a dead profession and has a very low player interaction. So for the dedicated few that still pursue obscure epic items like
Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds
here is a sort of an update.
It finally proc'd on the
336th solve
as a level 60
(current max)
Night Elf Druid, 600 / 950 in Archaeology and primarily farming Eastern Kingdoms!
A couple of things I wanted to add in hopes to aid adventures to come;
Take your time! don't burn out chasing it.
Watching podcasts, Movies, Listening to Audio Books and Talking in discord helps tremendously with the grind.
Adding an exercise challenge into the mix I found was a great way to
destroy
refresh body in the down times.
(I personally went with 2 push ups, Squats and Ab crunches per dig site.)
Eastern Kingdoms > Mantid
purely because it had more variety in items from off dig sites and down time via griffon rides
评论来自
WingCraftian
Where is the Zin'rokh mental help discord? Anyone doing this grind is clearly slowly being driven mad and we need help.
评论来自
Dihaz
I believe im at my 700th solve or something like that. Meanwhile i broke up with my gf, nearly graduated from college and many other things happened in my life. But this sword still didn't pop yet. Dunno what to say anymore...
评论来自
Snakeskin
After 6 days full of grind (8-12 hours per day) I got mine
497 solves on every toon
The grind was made at Eastern kingdom, because after my last grind using the Mantid method I realise that I could do better if I manipulate the dig sites on the EK
And I was right, I got around 300 solves in 6 days, much better than my last grind (around 150-200 solves in 10 days)
And I also got the
化石迅猛龙
while doing in the EK
Good luck boys
评论来自
MunchTime
zinrokh, destroyer of patience
评论来自
Brovori
I have managed to complete Archaeology and have all 63/63 rare artifacts solved that are in the game. Honestly, this is not a farm that I can recommend to the sane-minded people out there. However, if you do want to collect all the solves, then do
NOT
do this farm without having something to watch/listen to. Here is my breakdown of all the races and number of their corresponding solves; (I'm posting this knowingly to discourage any of you to ever commence this torture)
Drust: 72
Zandalari: 96
Demonic: 131
Highmountain Tauren: 115
Highborne: 270
Ogre: 136
Draenor Clans: 303
Arakkoa: 221
Mogu: 829
Pandaren: 505
Mantid: 5622
Vrykul: 22
Troll: 659
Tol'vir: 1677
Orc: 11
Nerubian: 34
Night Elf: 951
Fossil: 658
Draenei: 16
Dwarf: 812
Total: 13,140 Solves
Quiet honestly, I don't think anyone on EU/US or any other region has more solves than this, I consider this to be a very unlucky run. Had to solve 1,000+ Tol'vir trash for the Staff of Ammunae alone.
评论来自
Sapsens
Did opening today . No sword yet . Currently at 1400 troll solves . Still got 2.3K restored artifacts chests in bank that i will open some other day :) . Will update how it went
评论来自
MaxJ123455
just got mine to day after 1638 solves and after 8 years trying good luck to those still digging
The grind was made at Eastern kingdom manipulateing the dig sites on my lvl 60 druid alliance
评论来自
Reidon
Got it after 1533 troll solves grinded on one character and approximately 300 extra on different characters.
评论来自
Ne0s59934
Got it in around 60-70 troll solves
the hard part isnt solving the troll digsites
the hard part is GETTING troll digsites....
评论来自
Asylum5072108
Can you find this sword when doing archeology on a class that where's leather, cloth or mail?
or does it need to farmed specifically on a plate wherein class?
评论来自
TheWoWJedi
I wanted to add that I believe the patch from all the way back in 4.1 to be bugged — that reduced the occurrence of dig sites of races where you had completed all of the rares. It appears to be doing the opposite, actually increasing the occurrence of dig sites of races where all of the rares are completed. This means if have done all of the rares for the other races in EK, and you don’t have Zin’Rokh yet, you should either make a new character and avoid solving the other races (don't need to gather non-Troll fragments to complete dig sites) or switch to the Mantid method (which I believe to be slower if you have a Dwarf mage or Druid that can port / Dreamwalk around EK).
Currently I’m at 1800 Troll solves and no sword. If we assume this is a 0.1% drop chance, the likeliness of me having it by now is around 84%, which makes me fairly unlucky. To reach 99.9% likely, you would have to do around 7000 solves….!
评论来自
banx
For all my farmer's of zin'rok,
I start archeology yesterday and after hit lvl450 i get zin'rok after 18 attempt !
https://imgur.com/l0T5RZJ
I'm the biggest lucky in the world or the drop is up ?
What about you guys ?
评论来自
31deimmos
If you only want Zin'rokh, go for the mantid farm, i was doing EK farm and got the Dwarven Staff, now i feel that my luck ran out.
评论来自
Pathologist
1113 solves.. been on and off since 2010.
I've come back to these comments many times over the years looking for tips.. answers. To share in others glories and sorrows..
I can't shout because my wife and kids are sleepin..
But today I dug up this sword from the grounds behind the Gurubashi Arena.
I'd just like this comment to rest with all of yours,
Ill rest myself too now..
Thank you all.
Don't give up.
评论来自
TheWoWJedi
I have officially past 3000 solves (added up across 4 characters), with 1900 on a single character without the sword
If we assume the sword to have a .01% drop rate, then this puts me ~95% likely to have seen it by now
This is literally the only activity I do in this game
评论来自
Himlenhorse
I got my Zin'rokh yesterday. Compared to the rest of the people I guess I was pretty lucky. Got my sword after around 150 solves. I did it on a druid with speed gear and I was 600 in archaeology.
I did the Pandaria stratergy with Restored Artifact boxes. Get the Forager's Gloves from Korda Torros for faster surveys.
Good luck peoples.
评论来自
Frostriddare
I am 3000+ tries now. Took a couple of months break and now trying again.
I dont know what strategy is the best but I have tried mantid and EK.
Playing on a dwarf warrior with HS in western plaguelands, and dalaran HS for stormwind. I like EK farming more.
I will probably only spend a couple of hours each day, instead of 12 hours everyday for a month..
评论来自
Hazardmove
36 Common solves, and it popped. Lucky I guess.
评论来自
Vetigue
Got it after 334 solves, used both mantid method and EK method. Very small difference for me between those methods, I recommend the mantid way since it's less flying and less rng involved in which digsites spawn.
评论来自
BerettaNEWarrior
Got it. 437th solve. Wasn't at the Gurubashi altar. Looks like total low-rez ass. Quite happy! ^_^
edit: this was all at skill 850.
评论来自
Recon209
finally after years of doing archeology on and off for hours on end i managed to get this sword to proc on 12/14/2023 after more than 1k solves using the mantid method... for those still going for this weapon as others have said don't give up and take it for a few hours at a time. Good luck to those still going for it and hope you get it soon!
评论来自
Bloodshhot
Took a little over a month of farming with 319 solves before showing up
评论来自
Sundertooth
Even as an avid Archaeologist of Azeroth, I can only farm for an hour a day before I get burned out.
I am up to 300+ Troll Artifact solves with no sword yet, but I am going to keep going.
I don't have a copy of the exact numbers, but if there is anyone out there who is sick of Mantid farming, I'd recommend Zandalari farming instead. You can get Zandalari/Kul Tiran Surveying enchanted onto your gloves, and from my extensive research, farming dig sites in Zandalar nets the same number of Restored Artifacts per hour as Mantid farming, and is my preferred method of farming because I don't like spending 825g per Mantid Amber Sliver on the AH when I could spend 115g per Zandalari Idol.
I'll edit this in the future once I have the sword.
EDIT: This basically confirms that we live in a simulation and nothing is real because I PROCCED ZIN'ROKH 24 HOURS AFTER I MADE MY ORIGINAL COMMENT! Holy ^&*! my heart is still racing. You just have to keep farming boys. 300-400 Troll solves seems to be the sweet spot.
评论来自
trinketeer
Just appeared as my next troll artifact. YAY! some background and tips:
started three weeks ago grinding only Eastern Kingdoms, about 2-5 idk hours daily. began at 950(max) archeology skill. Not a dwarf. Horde, actually a troll, and umm hunter. My poor-quality Troll artifacts completed each number in the 30's so by about ~500~ troll finds i'm at the sword
1. always carry around 20-40 Troll Tablets. you're going for quantity of digsites completed of all kinds, but primarily Troll artifact completions. When you are near an AH, pick up Troll Tablets if you can
2.
Hearthstone
is set to Stranglethorn Vale. this is my
southern
-most teleport.
Grom'gol
(or
Rebel Camp
/Booty Bay/Duskwood? for alliance).
3.
Manapoof
in
Dalaran
's pet store is your quick access to the
northern
region of Eastern Kingdoms via
Stratholme
pet battle edition.
4.
Direbrew's Remote
is your quick access to the
central
section of Eastern Kingdoms via
Blackrock Depths
.
4.a.
Shroud of Coordination
to your faction's capitol city -> portal to
Twilight Highlands
is another fast way to the central region of EK. Longer cooldown than Direbrew's.
5. Start by clearing the digsites closest to you. If the closest digsite (or cluster of digsites) is closer to one of the quick teleport points than to your current location, it's time to use a teleport.
6. Dragonriding makes it possible to do this without losing your mind. Use up your vigor to close in on the digsite, you'll regenerate it by the time it's done. Use a regular flying mount to navigate the digsite when your Survey returns a red color.
7. When all the quick portals are on cooldown and there's nothing close to you, it's time for a break. take a flight point if you want but please take a break.
*8. if you're a dragonflight Engineer - keep a bunch of Creature Combustion Canisters on you. you can use them on any beast or dragonkin you kill. also have a goggle/bracer with tinker: Shadowflame Rockets. pretty fun to use when your Survey delivers a yellow light. you'll be farming pieces of Scrap while you grind archeology & i ended up with a lot of new toys by doing so! The Creature Combustion Canisters also help you keep track of time. their cooldown for me is 2.5 minutes. I usually use 1 per digsite.
good luck
评论来自
Zerocharisma1875
Just hit 902 solves, no luck yet, I will be back with updates :) back with a update just hit 1,111 solves, still nothing, new update, 1322, still nothing.. 1440 still no luck.. 1600 Still nothing.. 1740 still at it.. well well well, 1850 and zin rokh is mine. ez game bros
评论来自
Carstens
I find myself pretty lucky with 308 solves getting Zin'rokh to pop in my archeology tab, doing EK farm (feels good with Dragonflight) and a bit of zandalari farm too.
Gl outthere !
评论来自
TheTrueTjc
Been farming Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds since Legion, ever since it’s been on and off. Now that they’ve added Dragonriding to all zones it’s made farming it a lot more tolerable. So far I’m up to 1330 troll Artifact solves with no sword yet, I’m probably extremely unlucky, but I will not give up! Same to everyone else going for Zin'rokh, Destroyer of Worlds, don’t give up!
UPDATE: as of 21/03/2024 Zin’rokh dropped for me! After 1433 Troll Artifacts solved it finally dropped for me! The method I used was Farming in Eastern Kingdoms and setting my hearthstone to Stranglethorn Vale. I wish those that are farming it in the present future the best of luck! Never give up and stay positive!
评论来自
rehlyihmah
absolutely hilarious that this thing is on the cata pre-bis lists. definitely looks like something that will drop in time for the raid release.
to then be replaced by a drop.
评论来自
Triphop
Couple of years and 1589 solves, and I got it! Don't give up, it definetely exists.
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