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评论来自
411508
This reportedly comes from Heroic 5 man Coliseum.
It looks to be a logical upgrade for anyone using a Titansteel Destroyer.
评论来自
402539
Taken from Lichborne: WoW.com's DK column.
Lichborne
Ok, Casual and non-raiding 2 hand wielding Death Knights, you might want to sit down, because I have some big news for you: You may finally be able to chuck that Titansteel Destroyer. That's right, we're getting a new, higher level epic weapon in Patch 3.2's 5-man Crusader's Coliseum. The loot we're seeing come out of the Coliseum is all epic, and all amazing, and if you haven't even been to Naxxramas yet, either by choice or by lack of time or opportunity, you're going to have a reason to love the coliseum.
Weighing in at a whopping 203.7 DPS with a high end damage of 856, the Edge of Ruin is pretty much the dream for any serious casual Death Knight. It's right up there with Death's Bite or Armageddon from Naxxramas. The only downside is that it's an axe instead of a suitably awesome sword, and that it switches out hit rating for armor penetration, which means you may need to do some regemming to stay at the hit cap. Other than that, this is probably the number one thing you want to be gunning for once the Coliseum goes live. It even has a big chunk of strength and stamina, making it great for tanking as well.
I agree, this thing is freaking good. Personally, I could give a hell if it's an axe or not. Stats on a weapon like this that will be quite easy to get is great. I can't wait for 3.2
评论来自
Kaylthas
Except it looks like crap.
Gotta love recolor of fugly models
评论来自
Godhand
And once again you can almost sense the design process.
"Okay. This scythe needs something else."
"Axes."
"But it's a scythe."
"So add axes to it."
"Alright, how does this look?"
"Needs more axes."
"But I added one."
"Axes. Plural. More. And while you're at it, throw a skull on there too. Everyone loves skulls."
评论来自
318373
As either an Arms or Fury Warrior, I would take this axe over Death's Bite all day and twice on Sunday's
It's got 15 more Str, slightly slower weapon speed for those Deep Wounds and Slam procs, and it has better weapon damage. It also has ArP instead of hit, which at this gear level we tend to have more hit than we need. Death's Bite does have more crit, but not nearly enough to make up for the positive traits of this weapon.
The only reason to stick with a Death's Bite is if you'll drop below your soft hit cap by not doing so.
评论来自
ZPalg
Edge of Ruin's Item lvl is 219 not 213 like it is listed.
评论来自
Hollowed
My only question is this: is this just a placeholder model, or are they really going to make the upgrade from Colossal Skull Clad Cleaver a blue one? Everyone knows that if it's red, it goes faster, so why make the upgrade from the red one blue? :<
PS: To those of us who are spam downranking, I've been using Collosal Skull Clad for a long time now, and I'd personally enjoy getting a model upgrade. Sorry for not enjoying reusing models.
评论来自
Aristile
i believe this is ilvl 219, wowhead currently has it listed as ilvl213.
Edit: wowhead has updated this item to it's correct stats/ilvl
评论来自
Dole
I just got this from the first fight in Trial of the Crusader 5-man Heroic Mode.
Very nice upgrade and I am a huge fan. It may drop from other bosses randomly?
I like how I'm getting marked down, when this was the first comment about where this drops on live. Nobody else knew, I was posting what I figured I could help with.
评论来自
393748
I, too, acquired this off the first. As of today, I've talked to two others who have had it drop for them and they also received it off the first boss.
On a side note, I really despise the reuse of Colossal Skull Clad Reaver graphic with the recoloring.
评论来自
414005
It is indeed iLevel 219 in Live, however only does the 213-level 203 dps. How odd..
评论来自
284947
Got this today from H TOC and god damn its hot. I love how it looks. It replaced my Death's Bite in a heartbeat.
评论来自
bathazar
...pretty much the dream for any
serious casual
Death Knight....
I lawled
评论来自
Makutaitachi
Supposedly drops from Champion's Cache (Jousting Event) in Heroic Trial of the Champion. This will be a great upgrade for my arms spec. =D
评论来自
48509
Seems like all the weapons have bugged DPS. Hopefully they raise it in a minipatch.
评论来自
437335
The stats shown are a little bit off. The correct stats are actually:
+121 Strength
+97 Stamina
Item Level 219
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 62.
Equip: Increases your armor penetration rating by 76.
Everything else listed is correct though.
评论来自
438400
The First boss in the new 5 man heroic dropped this axe, I don't know a drop rate in percentage, but i've never seen it drop since and i've run it about 4-5 times
评论来自
Circuit
Sucks that this doesn't seem to accept enchant effects. Berserking would look awesome on this model. :(
评论来自
438440
It looks like the listed value on this weapon showing the 203.7 dps and actual damage 570 - 856 is a bug, because the dps it actually is putting out is 212.3.
I discovered this by looking at my character damage per swing when swapping between this weapon and
Stormedge
. Stormedge is listed as doing 212.3 dps and 594 - 892 damage per swing. When I equip Edge of Ruin, my listed damage per swing actually goes up by 8 points instead of dropping. If the listed number was correct, my damage per swing should have gone down.
The increase is due to the Edge of Ruin having 15 more strength than Stormedge. 15 Str translated to 8 damage per hit when I checked it by swapping other gear around.
So it seems like Edge of Ruin actually HAS received a dps buff, but Blizzard needs to update the listed dps on the weapon.
EDIT ---- see the comment above about clearing WoW cache. It appears that the weapon will display its correct value if this is done. I guess when Blizz hotfixes something server-side, it doesn't automatically update all of your locally stored game files.
评论来自
291179
I picked one of these up yesterday. I wasn't gonna go for it as I was on my retadin and armour pen is hardly our best stat, but then I noticed the 219 ilevel and 212 DPS.
I can confirm the stats are as follows:
594-892 damage
3.5 speed
212.3 dps
121 str
97 sta
62 crit
76 armour pen
评论来自
60642
It seems with this (and I assume all of the new TotC weapons) that the weapon DPS is actually iLvl 219.
I deleted my cache and reloaded the game, and now this weapon is displaying 212.3 DPS instead of the 203.7 it was earlier.
评论来自
438166
i got this weapon on the first attempt on the new instance trial of the champion in the heroic mode :P , it is an amazing weapon and i submitted a pic weilding it .
i got this from the 2nd boss in ToTC HC on the 2nd day of patch 3.2
and by the way , the weapon stats are the same as the picture on the top of this page(thats on my PC) .
评论来自
Wettren
Last time I checked, which was 1 min ago, the Edge of Ruin actually had 212.3 dps.
评论来自
Andrewpally16
haha first off id love to say this axe is awesome!
i did Trial of Crusade on Heroic and got it the 1st time!
honestly the axe i had before was the Dr-raged War Axe from the Ampitheater quest line in Zul'drak
and i could not find a better one at the time...
then when i can across this i pulled a
"oh this is waayyyyyy better than mine can i need please?"
lolz then someone was targeting me...inspecting no doubt and was like
"oh Hel* yeah thats way better please take it!"
lolz and now im happy with this!
i highly doubt ill ever change it again.
and i love the way it looks...XD
评论来自
432976
From where that axe drops? i have one from HoL HC
评论来自
sorsa
As an Arms specced warrior whos been using the Betrayer so far I picked this up recently, I'm sitting at 49% passive armor penetration so I instantly fell in love with the Edge as it had such an incredible chunk of extra ArP on it.. And have a strong feeling the Edge beats out the Betrayer if you already have a sizeable ammount of ArP to go with it.
Equipping the Edge of Ruin over the Betrayer grants:
+50AP (with Strength of Arms + Kings)
+76 ArP
-25 CritR
-66 Agility
-57 Haste
-18 Top end damage
The Haste is pretty much ignorable as Arms, the agility ammounts to about 30 Crit rating, the top end damage loss is almost completely made up for by the extra AP from Edge.
Then it's ~55 Crit Rating vs. 76 ArP Rating, well I know I'll take my extra ArP. ;) This is based on total turnip math ofc so correct me if I missed something.
评论来自
jasojase
This dropped for me in 5 man heroic ToTC in a guild run. I had the Dreadlord's Blade, a great two-hand sword with high hit rat. This upgrade made an uproar throughout the melee classes in my guild. I'm grateful and since I hit 80 2 weeks ago, it was perfect timing.
评论来自
370909
I love the introduction of it. The instance itself is awesome, and easy to handle, but this weapon especially is a must. I play a ret pally and this is not only a very suitable raiding weapon until a replacement drops, but it is
ridiculously easy
to pick up compared to other weapons with the same damage output. Got it my second time running H ToC and i'm not looking back ^_^
评论来自
jlavorin2
this shows it at 203.7 DPS but if you have this weapon in the game you know that it is actually 212 DPS
评论来自
438400
They changed the weapon since it was put on here
it is
594-892 Damage
(212.3 damage per second)
rest is still the same though
评论来自
Jozhua
new stats & damage
594 - 892 Damage speed 3.50
(212.3 damage per second)
+121 Strength
+97 Stamina
iLevel 219
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 62.
Equip: Increases your armor penetration rating by 76.
评论来自
423712
yeah but still this is better than the 1% drop rate from Loken in HoL :d my dps addon tell that the weap from HoL have 2.2k dps and this one have 2.5k
评论来自
icritmypants
i wanna dual wield this on my fury warrior with the skull clad cleaver...i think it would look sweet
评论来自
Mike1574
OMG, I really love this 2h Axe. This striking is incredible and any serious Death Knight should want this. I got it from heroic ToC, and Marrowstrike from the same instance the day before. And Edge of Ruin is by far on the same calibur as Marrowstrike.
评论来自
326597
DPS should be 212.3 (Not updated from ilvl 213).
评论来自
366136
I've run the 5 man Heroic ToC multiple times now and I've gotten fortunate to get some good drops but this one has yet to fall for me :( I use the Inevitable Defeat and love it, still one of the best maces in the game. I also have the
Colossal Skull Clad CLeaver
as well but I'm waiting for this new one to drop so I have ArP on a weapon too and have a matching set because they are that cool. ;)
评论来自
Okacz
Let's compare this axe to
Abaddon
from Yogg Saron
DPS is equal
+15 Strengh
-66 Stamina (ouch)
Armor Penetration Rating is equal too
-62 Hit Rating
+62 Critical Strike Rating
So:
It's a DPS weapon, so you don't need stamina. For me, bare stats are better in Edge of Ruin.
Another difference is one equip effect. Its simple. If you need Hit Rating (you'r not capped), then Abaddon is a better choice. But if you are already capped, a nice amount of AP Rating would be much better.
And in Abaddon speed is slightly lower.
So i feel that Edge of Ruin, a easy to get item from 15-minute Heroic is somehow better than item from last boss from the hardest raid in game. Strange, isn't it?
评论来自
59349
Ran this 28 times on my Ret Pally and 10 times on my Warrior and never seen it.... its a myth. im about to give up on ever getting it.
13% my ass
评论来自
324197
I've run H ToC many times and never seen this bad boy drop. What a pity. Lost a roll on Marrowstrike as well. FML
评论来自
439997
The first time i did it i had titansteel destroyer and the only stuff i got was this...
评论来自
324197
This thing is way too good for a weapon that drops in a Heroic. Oh well, power to the casuals I suppose!
评论来自
324197
Just got mine. As I already knew, this thing is just awesome. In many ways better-itemized than Betrayer of Humanity due to the lack of Haste and the use of STR instead of AP. It's also slower than Betrayer, which is nice. More or less this thing is Ironsoul for people who don't do Ulduar. Quite a giveaway, if you ask me. Considering H ToC nets a plate DPSer an excellent iLevel 219 bracer, as well as decent pants, and drops emblems for iLevel 226 necklaces, gloves, etc.... this instance is giving you Ulduar 10 and 25-level gear for doing practically nothing. While the gear isn't as well-itemized as Ulduar gear, it's darn close and will easily gear you enough to put you in gear far better than what Naxx 25 offers, and even Ulduar into your "easy" category as long as you pay attention.
评论来自
451085
2 months of grinding in h toc and i dont have 1 , dissapointed that the drop rate is so low , ill update if i get 1 , its a great dps weapon for arenas and pvp will likely be replaced with an even better 1 in new expansion ..i cant wait
评论来自
447786
yea this wep is a beast. ive had this since the first time i did roic toc and idk.... my dps went 2x as much for people who are gonna try raiding ulduar 25 man and toc10 man i highly recomend to use this wep if u just cant get a grp for ulduar 10man i got this wep and still havent replaced it i highly recomend to get it for all those people who want to raid ulduar. just to let u guys know this drops form the first bosses (bosses are different if ure alliace or horde) so good luck to all the people who are trying to farm it it will be a really nice wep
评论来自
khaltak
no, this is the design process...
'guys we need a new weapon and a scythe is a pretty cool option..'
'we already did scythes sir!'
'hmm put axes on it'
'ok...'
'and a skull with a mohawk'
'a mohawk? why?'
'every real gnome has a mohawk..everyone knows this - and a skull - well yeah everyone likes a good skull'
'you're the boss..'
'and make it blue'
'why'
''cos blue is my favorite colour...also, the guys upstairs already did a red one'
评论来自
348381
I don't know why they have to make all the heroic warrior weapons look so hideous, can't we have something that doesn't make me cringe when I see myself swing it?
评论来自
455115
i farmed for 2 weeks for this baby on my dk it has a low drop rate so be lucky or farm heroics if you want this...or i just have no luck
评论来自
Canbie
The Armory is wrong, it says this axe is only 203.7 dps. (570-856)
评论来自
304733
I dual-wield these on my fury Warrior and they both show up as 212 dps.
Is this a bug because on wowarmory it says 203.7 and on this, some people are saying 203 aswell.
评论来自
441773
Interesting....
Jedoga Shadowseeker
uses one of these as well...
评论来自
225913
Just had a Fury Warrior ninja this from my Ret Pally... He better be using it to it's full potential.
评论来自
342785
I got this today on my arms-warrior and to be honest, I'm not sure if it outranks my
Marrowstrike
. They both have the same DPS initially and with the same +85 AP enchant on both, the Edge of Ruins gives me about 90 more AP when equipped. However, since I'm losing both a gemslot (which I have 20 crit rating in) and a ton of AGI, my crit-chance goes down with 2.09% when equipping the Edge... to me, that's A LOT.
The Marrowstrike also has more STA (although not much), which for PvP is very nice. The extra AGI on it also factors in for PvP, giving 220 more armor and 1.32% more dodge. All of this factors in for the Marrowstrike being the superior weapon in my opinion.
I don't know how much ArP factors in on the overall DPS, but I think I'm just saving this on the bank for possible Titan's Grip specs in the future...
评论来自
458913
Okey now! Decided to write something here since i'm annoyed as ****! I see people with full blue running around with this weapon. Every class capable of using a 2h weapon has it! Some people even have two or three of them. Most of the npcs running around in the Argent tournament grounds has the weapon! But for some reason, i just can't get my hands on it! Today was my 40th run! And nothing.. Why is that? Can't say that i'm unlucky. Since everybody else has it! And when i said that i just can't get my hands on it, i mean that it just won't drop. Would have been ok if the thing actually had drop a few times and i would have been outrolled. But not one time! What is this madness?
评论来自
Salami
Don't do what i did and mistake this axe for your old Colossal Skull-Clad Reaver and sell it to the vendor, had to wait 2 days for a GM to give it back.
Its a very easy mistake to make
评论来自
cerbdog
Picked this up after my friends took me into HToC on the day I hit 80. It was so much fun to see the damage I used to be doing when I was just using De-Raged Waraxe to when I picked up Edge of Ruin. It was like night and day. I definitely want to pick up another one so I can play with Fury spec a little.
评论来自
178782
is it good for DK tanking?
评论来自
goomba
Scooped this up on my pally when no on in the group needed it. Is it worth putting 110ap or even berserking on it?
评论来自
186920
Have run this god-forsaken instance 30 times, (I've counted based off of how many Champion Seals I have) and still no axe..... Starting to loose hope. Every Blued-out Faildin has that thing and It's taunting me!
评论来自
Whiterea
This is pretty much "the basic weapon" for a pvper (arms warrior, ret paladin or death knight) who doesn't raid and wants a decent weapon because you need pve items for the weapon and thrown slots before reaching 1800 rating.
评论来自
276720
I've ran heroic trial of the champion countless times, and have yet to see this drop for me.
Anyway, its a great Blood Dps spec 2-hand Axe. Also great for Ret Paladins and Arms/Fury Warriors.
评论来自
SamuraiJakkass86
Yes it is outdone by the DPS. Titansteel = 184,, Edge of ruin 212. That is all that is required for this to be better then anything you put on TSDestroyer.
评论来自
Xorital
I have a question, i'm a Ret Paladin with weapon, I once got cheated out of this axe from a guild member who says paladins never need armor pen or something, although its an upgrade in strength, I lose stam but dps dont need to care about that, the dps is alot better, edge of ruin being 212.3 and the jawbone being 203.6.
I lose 99 haste and 59 expertise but gain 62 crit and 76 armor pen, what do you guys think?
评论来自
63842
It is true that retribution paladin doesn't benefit from ArP as much as pure physical damage classes such as warriors do, since judgements and such skills classified as spells already penetrate armor fully.
But this weapon having ArP should not be the reason to not roll on it. More importantly this weapon has greater top-end damage, DPS and strength than The Jawbone has. One thing Jawbone has advantage over Edge of Ruin, is the expertise that helps you towards to expertise cap (if you are not already).
But I say, all retribution paladins should roll on it, aswell as other plate DPS classes that use strength as primary stat (DPS warriors and DK's)
评论来自
8inchunbuffed
not only that, but it looks better too.
评论来自
298067
By redandgray on 08/14/2009 (Patch 3.2.0)
Physics 101: light (in any particular medium) has exactly one speed. Period.
Not entirely true; recent experiments have shown that light will travel up to 300 times faster when pulsed through specially prepared cesium gas, making it appear that the light is exiting the testing chamber before it even enters.
评论来自
349853
bloodt amazing wepon i was using titansteel steel destroyer and just got this and my dps has gone up by 500
评论来自
104827
According to the wowhead calculator for paladin ret specs, this item IS better than
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=40384
Better yet, according to wowhead, is the
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=47522
The wowhead calc says the Marrowstrike has 3.5 or so more dps than Edge, and BOTH are rated higher than the
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=40384
I don't know about the marrowstrike, but with the paladin +15% strength buff, you figure this Edge actually has 139.15 strength, which (if i'm correct) equates to 278.3 AP, thus trumping both the Marrowstrike, and the Betrayer. I currently have Betrayer, and whenever I get this, I"ll be putting Bezerker on this and trying it out on 25 man's, swapping back and forth to see which is better.
Although, now that i'm thinking about it, the strength talent plus kings gives 1.25% of your strength so 121 *1.25 = 151.25
151*2 for your attack power = 302.5
So for a pally, this is better than the betrayer by far (225 AP)
The crit is just a bit less, but you get ArP instead of haste.
评论来自
465069
I have this weapon equipped as an arms warrior, pulling 3k dps in uld as a fresh 80. not bad at all.
评论来自
483470
Why couldn't this axe look like Ingvar's Plunderer? All the cool models are used only once (Hellreaver, Armageddon, Ironsoul). All the bleh or meh models get reused....
评论来自
431809
This is a great weapon, i use that on my DK but in the 3.3 patch there is going to be
http://ptr.cuckhead.com/?item=50267
which is droping off Scrourgelord Tyrannus the last boss in the pit of saron, and its bettter and probably just as easy get, see all pallys and warriors and some DKs useing this wep in the patch.
评论来自
thetraveler12
im about to give up... people are so #$%^ing concerned with your gear score... just how the %^&*! do they expect you to get a better gear score when 1. you aren't in a guild and 2. you dont have the gold to waste on enchants to your gear.. i dont play a whole lot.. but that blue 2 hander i carry in one had is a serious detriment to my gear score. i would LOVE to replace it.. but oh noes.. i have teh low g34r scor3z.. /sigh
评论来自
63842
From 3.3 on the enchants will display on this weapon.
EDIT: Submitted a screenshot.
评论来自
505505
I use it and it is pretty sweet.... DPS goes up dramatically with it!
评论来自
495935
I duel wield 2 of these on my fury warrior, looks like a pair of scissors on your back :P
评论来自
366773
Okay, seriously, I must've run this dungeon a hundred times--yes heroic--and this hasn't dropped ONCE for me.
评论来自
524618
THIS IS ONE BAD ASS AXE DUDE
评论来自
626709
If your axe had axes on it, you'd have a hawkstrider too. (
http://home.roadrunner.com/~ursadon/drzaius.jpg
)
评论来自
564947
Got it my first time in H ToC. however, I'm a fury warrior, so it's time to start farming for another one...
Though I must say, Edge of Ruin in one hand and its red counterpart in the other is pretty epic.
评论来自
675613
Does this weapon drop in heroic and normal? (i got hacked and havnt played for a year so im trying to get some gear together >.<)
评论来自
245450
I loved having this for my Paladin, but just wish the design was on a higher-end weapon. Nonetheless, I've kept it in my bank long after it was underpowered.
评论来自
Lovestar
Does anyone else find that one screenshot for this item hilarious?
You know, the one with the bold, strong Tauren warrior clad in Northrend plate, proudly showing off his ferocious new axe on the beach. And then, in the background, there's another completely random Tauren in neon-green pyjamas waving excitedly at the camera?
It's like the poster was trying to take a strong, silent photo for a dating site but his hyperactive younger cousin wouldn't stop getting in the frame.
评论来自
Duby0
can confirm it drops in normal mode
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