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评论来自
28619
wonder how long the duration would be.
With CoEx and summoning circle it would be nice kiting.
评论来自
hppa
70% is insanely good, so I don't rec it'll last very long.
However, it'll still be a great tool to use on a melee shortly after trinketing a stun (or similar), as you'll loose
all currently active slows on you, while slowing him by 70%.
*Please last as long as crippling poison!*
评论来自
236163
Shadowflame lasts 8 seconds and has a 15 second cooldown... I think it's great!
You can actually list down the reasons why this is a welcome addition to the Warlock PvP arsenal!
It's instant.
It's AoE.
Has a satisfying duration.
Has a relatively short cooldown.
As destruction, this means that Conflag & Backdraft will soon follow.
Combine this with
Feleport
and you have a way to manage against those pesky rogues.
评论来自
Enquillion
Keep your hands off my CoC!
评论来自
ThyFlame
Can't be dispelled.
评论来自
Verdice
Where is this learned from?
评论来自
121315
Best pvp warlock glyph hands down. 70% slow is insane. Only ability that is slower in game is rogue's poison I think.
评论来自
156183
only things that slow for more is chains of ice and snares lol
评论来自
224699
THIS JUST IT: Cone of Cold now has a glyph to give it a DoT.....
That was a joke btw
评论来自
256454
This glyph applies
this effect
. It is truly a 70% snare like
Crippling Poison
, is not dispellable itself and lasts as long as Shadowflame BUT it will go away if the Shadowflame DoT is dispelled (tested, confirmed).
Thus, it neither adds more dispel protection nor is it unremovable. (It's still pretty sweet though and is useful with
Demonic Circle
.)
评论来自
Toldry
Great for kiting adds on Gluth.
评论来自
205534
This is nice
评论来自
477586
Great your affliction warlocks too. You can slow down warriors , teleport away and cast shadowbolt or reaply haunt and her friends. The only problem is Shadowflame remove your Corruption from the target.(Don't try reaply Corruption after you Shadowflame beacuse Corruption will remove Shadowflame effect :S )
评论来自
Onijitsu
Excellent point, Laci. Afflictolocks will need to remember this, in order to be effective. Comparing it, though?
Shadowflame (@ level 80)
does 1215 damage (615-671 shadow DD, then places a fire DOT) over 8 seconds
Corruption (@ level 80)
does 1080 damage over 18 seconds, untalented.
I'm not sure what Corruption's damage becomes after speccing for every boost to Corruption and Shadow damage in Affliction... the math can get a bit hairy! But the point is, more natural base damage in a shorter amount of time. Any talents which boost Shadow or Fire damage will give Shadowflame a nice kick too. (So you will also get a boost to Shadowflame, no matter how you spec)
Add this 70% movement speed debuff, and you have just given your warlock (and his buddies) a bunch more survivability in PvP, and even some PvE circumstances. Use it to bring down an enemy flag-runner. Or, to help protect one of your own teammates, who is running the flag.
It hurts that you can't use Corruption (with Siphon Life's healing benefits) on a target, but you can always pop that back on when Shadowflame is almost gone, and you have gotten some distance away.
The only regret for Afflictolocks is that the shadow component is direct-damage, and the fire-component is a DOT. If it were the other way around, Shadowflame might help boost your Drain Life and Drain Soul abilities via Soul Siphon. (And Shadowflame technically belongs to the Destruction school of abilities anyway)
Now, what I want to know is whether the glyphed Shadowflame 70% slowing effect can stack with
Curse of Exhaustion
(30% speed reduction x 12 seconds) and/or
Improved Fear
(30% speed reduction x 5 seconds). Has anyone tested this? I figure that if it did stack, it would be multiplicative. So, adding Curse of Exhaustion would probably drop them to 21% speed? (0.7 x 0.3) I haven't yet found any definitive answers to this question, using my Google-Fu. (I suspect that Blizzard doesn't want us stacking snares on top of snares, though)
评论来自
Benegesserit
This is only really useful with the teleport. A lot of classes have easily reappliable slows and someone in melee like a rogue is just going to instantly reapply a slow before you even get 1yd out of melee after the cast. Cone of Cold is better because at least with the appropriate talents it will root.
评论来自
175315
Laso note, this is only snare for Demonology locks (if you arent of-specced in destruction)
评论来自
339146
Best glyph for a pvp demon lock, SF followed by metamorphosis and imolation aura the person will eat 7 secs of ur aura and if it gets out of range just intercept =3
评论来自
hilary
In PvP, a lot of afflocks are generally debating over whether to use this over the CD reduction Howl of Terror glyph. I think both are solid choices for PvP, but I prefer the shadowflame and think the following are worth considering.
+ It allows you to free up your curse for whichever curse you like against certain targets instead of Exhaustion.
+ Provides an extra trash debuff (generally not an issue with UA, but it's still nice) to be dispelled, and most importantly, provides an AoE slow that is not on DR with fear. In an arena (or even BG's) when you have several people chasing your healer, slowing all of them is much better than fearing 3 while the one on DR gets an intercept off.
+ While the 8 seconds shaved off of Howl of Terror is amazing against melee, people usually don't realize that a well-timed glyphed shadowflame can provide 7 of those 8 seconds, as well as another utility to get around even if Howl isn't on CD. As a class with relatively few PvP outs, every new panic button is a welcome addition.
评论来自
52329
Good for PVP,though more for stopping people from running away than from running from them (in my experience).
Very
good for catching flag carriers right after dismounting next to them.
评论来自
921445
Turns an "Eh" ability into an awesome one.
How do YOU like being slowed down by 70%, Mr.Rogue?
评论来自
PriestessAur
In Mists of Pandaria this glyph has changed.
OLD: Glyph of Shadowflame - Your Shadowflame also applies a 70% movement speed slow to its victims.
NEW: Glyph of Shadowflame - Your Shadowflame slow is increased to 10% but Hand of Gul'dan no longer has charges. (Build 15882)
评论来自
Grishord
For those that are confused (Like I was) Shadowflame is no longer a spell, it's now an effect from "Hand of Gul'dan"
评论来自
1048757
I calculated a bit, whether it's beneficial to use this glyph for slowing. Short version:
(Base Mob Speed is 100 Units/Sec.)
Shows distance travelled by target mob.
30% Slow, 2 Charges
420 Units after 6 Sec.
840 Units after 12 Sec.
1140 Units after 15 Sec.
1560 Units after 21 Sec.
5100 Units after 60 Sec.
70% Slow, 1 Charge
180 Units after 6 Sec.
780 Units after 12 Sec.
1080 Units after 15 Sec.
1260 Units after 21 Sec.
4320 Units after 60 Sec.
As you can see easily, the glyphed version is superior for slowing, and, if used on cooldown, not much worse for damaging, as the charge system only excels at burst damage.
评论来自
108668
In its most recent incarnation (patch 5.4), this glyph's effect is "The damage reduction of Unending Resolve is reduced by 20%, but the cooldown is reduced by 60 sec."
This is somewhat ambiguous, and actually misleading. The damage reduction isn't reduced by 20% in a multiplicative sense like you might expect if you play this game
(one might think
it means that the damage reduction, previously 40%, is now 80% of 40%, leaving you with 32% damage reduction).
That's not what it means.
With this glyph, Unending Resolve is 20% damage reduction on a 2minute cooldown
; seems to me a significant net loss. But if you use UR for the anti-interrupt protection in pvp, this does mean that it aligns with Dark Soul.
评论来自
ghostiron
This glyph used to be named "Glyph of Shadowflame".
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