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评论来自
Random771452
lol just when you thought warriors weren't gona be OP enough in the expansion then this enchant rolls along... anyone know if these amazing enchants are going to be strictly for 2H or for 1H as well?
评论来自
210055
Seeing as it's called Formula: Enchant
Weapon
- Berserking, I would say that it can be put on both 1h and 2h weapons, it also doesn't say it's restricted to 1h or 2h weapons in the description. :) My warr gonna own with this enchant, altho one questions remains... will the two buffs stack or not?
评论来自
HORRYSCHMOKES
Looks tailor-made for warriors
评论来自
231079
A fury warrior fully epic'd will have between 12k-13k armor, resulting in a loss of roughly 130 attack power from a double proc of Berserking. That still leaves a 670 attack power gain. Well worth it.
Edit: my bad, it would actually be 737 attack power with Imp Zerker Stance, and 811 attack power with a Hunter/DK/Shaman's +10% ap talent. Though it would be fantastic to squeeze 968 attack power from a double proc if the Armored to the Teeth talent ignores the armor loss.
评论来自
Daws
This will be the new Mongoose for melee DPSers I think.
评论来自
109867
The glow effect is almost the same as on Savagery (2H), i.e. a dripping blood effect, only the red glow on the weapon itself seems to be slightly stronger. It's the same glow as on Massacre (2H).
评论来自
143348
I have a question as an Enhancement Shaman, considering I have yet to toy with enchants and the like..
But, does this buff, when it procs, apply the to the AP>SP conversion we have?
If so, a double-proc would not only give us 800 AP, but 240SP, which could be quite interesting in PvE if we double as a "pinch healer", or in PvP for Maelstrom Weapon procs..well, I guess it'd be interesting in general.
评论来自
257775
As a war there is a little bug with Armored to the teeth. I've got this enchant and yes it's grant you 400 ap for 25% af reduction but sometimes when I recovered my af I don't recovered my ap gains.
exemple : 3000ap 13000af => proc => 3400ap 10000af ~ and at the end 2955ap~ 13000af~
strange !
评论来自
Ryzzo
As for the discussion about ATTT, warriors should utilize the timer. Someone should write a mod that keeps track of when the AP is calculated, and throw on a fat shield, like 7.5k armor. Comes out to about 125 more AP, just for *giggles.
*Edit: Language.
评论来自
midnightzak
How long does this buff last?
评论来自
263802
What im wondering is , does the amount of armor redused go from your total armour or the armor you currently have ?
for exemple if you have 10k armour and you are duel-wielding this enchant
the first proc would leave you with 7,5k armor
the next proc with 5,625 armor.
or
The first proc 7,5k armor
2nd proc 5k armor
edit : spelling
评论来自
263905
Has anyone Checked for Feral druids if the procced 400 Ap is effected by Savage Roar?
making it 540 AP
评论来自
260332
Anybody know an proc rate or an uptime yet?
评论来自
34819
Only had time to do a quick test before work... but, it's awesome.
16:00'30.828 Mogorani gains Berserk.
16:00'45.516 Mogorani's Berserk is refreshed.
16:00'47.141 Mogorani's Berserk is refreshed.
16:01'28.266 Mogorani gains Berserk.
16:01'36.141 Mogorani's Berserk is refreshed.
16:01'58.750 Mogorani gains Berserk.
16:02'20.078 Mogorani gains Berserk.
16:03'16.703 Mogorani gains Berserk.
16:03'26.469 Mogorani's Berserk is refreshed.
16:03'31.188 Mogorani's Berserk is refreshed.
Not only Were two unique procs 22 seconds apart at the shortest, but it can refresh itself to renew back to full duration.
评论来自
frmorrison
12 Infinite Dust - 4 Greater Cosmic - 4 Dream shard - 10 Abyss are the new 3.0.8 mats for this enchant.
This is worth about 135 Attack Power over time.
评论来自
126192
My love for you is like a truck, berserker!
评论来自
arco
Mats for this are pretty insane. Abyss Crystals are going for 150g a pop on my server.
评论来自
Einhander696
I just did a little number crunch concerning this buff and Armored to the Teeth, and it seems as though in order to lose enough Attack Power from the armor loss to create a deficit, you'd have to have damn close to 100,000 armor.
So until we're reaching that point, this enchant is definitely worth it.
评论来自
Vigorous
I have tested in game What losing Armor does to Armored to the Teeth.
I had another warrior stack 5 sunders on me my AP did not change at all.
Assuming armor reduction is the same with this enchant it will not effect your Armored to the Teeth.
评论来自
306925
Alright, so does anyone know the proc rate on a 2H weapon with 3.4aspd? And if it would be worth it to get berserking or massacre (+110ap)?
评论来自
Vigorous
Based off of your comment about AttT recalculating I did some more test.
I only have 2 Points in AttT so that is 2AP for every 180 Armor.
With the new patch 3.0.8 they made the Armor debuff less severe.
I have 13506 Armor Unbuffed (150 AP from AttT)
With one proc my Armor drops to 12839
With the second proc it drops my Armor to 12189 (135 AP from AttT)
So I will receive 800 AP from the Enchants and I will lose 15 AP from AttT. That is a fair trade IMO.
In my testing these enchants proc all the time and they are worth every copper you spend on them.
I would even say your DPS would be better with these than +110 AP on both weapons.
评论来自
253606
The new cost for this enchant in 3.0.8 is:
10 Abyss Crystal
12 Infinite Dust
4 Greater Cosmic Essence
4 Dream Shard
评论来自
198462
I must be unlucky...while I don't have any numbers to go off of, mine didn't proc very often at all. Though it was my first night with the enchant. Hopefully it'll get better :P
评论来自
308929
would weapon speed effect the proc rate at all?
评论来自
169125
In the patch 3.0.8, the armor reduced from the Berserking buff is been reduced from 25% to 5%.
评论来自
deinos
Is there a proc animation? It would be nice if it was the same as crusader and mongoose.
评论来自
BrokeNL
As it stands in the state of WotlK's economy (On our EU server at least) this enchant is far too expensive for me to even consider, Mongoose is still costing 3-400 but this, on Moonglade, sets you back over 1000g assuming each mat is bought off the AH.
I suspect it will calm down once Abyss Crystals begin to drop but particularly on poor raiding servers, expect to shell out a lot for this.
评论来自
312765
I just put this on my weapon the Titansteel Destroyer, and for some reason I do not get the red glow and dripping. Has anyone else had this problem?
评论来自
251701
Is there a proc animation? It would be nice if it was the same as crusader and mongoose.
Yes, similar to other "berserking" effects (such trinkets) it shows a black-red enraged face in front of you, and colors your char red for the whole duration of the effect. Also you can hear a light-metal sound, but nothing nice as the classical "burble burble burble" of the enrage effects :-)
You can see the effect in this screenshot -->
http://img18.picoodle.com/img/img18/3/2/4/f_WoWScrnShotm_59d3d05.jpg
评论来自
Tanork
does anybody know if berserking is making a proc with hunters since they use a bow/gun ?
评论来自
322541
Ok, so here is something for all you druids.......
I just spent about 10 minutes at the dummy figuring proc rates on this.
So for just white hits on the elite training dummy from the front without being hit capped or expertise capped.
I had 7 procs (not refreshes) over the course of 300 white hits (roughly 5 minutes). I missed or was parried 50 times. So, we take 7x15= 105seconds of uptime. 105/300(5minutes)= 35% uptime or 140 flat AP gain, with just white hits.
I would expect the uptime to be closer to 50% if you were capped and with special attacks. Which would push it to about 200 flat AP gain.
评论来自
322183
I am capped for Yellow attacks(so I never miss) and I only miss around 5% of white attacks.
That can't possibly be accurate, and if it is, you're hurting yourself, alot. If you have 3/3 Precision, you only need 6% to reach the soft cap. That's real easy to do. If you are only missing 5% of white hits, that means you, sir, have 23% chance to hit, minus the 3% from precision and you have 20% of raw hit on your gear, that's 500+ hit rating. If you have that much hit, it means you are seriously nerfing your AP or Crit or both.
The second thing I wanted to chime in on was that I see a lot of ppl talking about Armored to the Teeth. This is kind of a dumb talent, imo. You are tossing 3 precious talent points to get maybe 150 ap, or 165 if you have 5/5 improved berserker. That's kind of ridiculous.
I think these pts are better spent in Enrage (30% chance to increase dmg by 10% when you take dmg of any kind), Unbridled Wrath (chance for your melee strikes to grant 1 rage) or save those pts for the fury tree so you can throw down 18 pts, get 2/2 Impale (20% increase crit dmg), 3/3 deep wounds ( critical hits cause target to bleed for 48% of average weapon dmg over 6 sec) and 2h weapon specialization ( increase all dmg with 2h weapons by 6%) That 150 ap is what? 10.7 DPS? With the fury talents I mentioned, you will do much more than 10.7 more dps, deep wounds alone accounts for 8.7% of my overall dmg on average.
Additionally, let me say I would MUCH rather be doing 6% extra dmg with both hands than hitting for 38.52 more dmg per swing with my 3.6 speed MH weapon. Let's think about a lower number crit. 2000. I crit for way more than that, but we'll just use that for an example. 6% of 2000 is 120 dmg. Even if you had a white melee swing for 1000, with 2h weapons, you do 60 more dmg. AttT is a stupid talent. Do NOT get it if you want to do top end DPS. There are too many good talents you can spend your pts on than to throw it all away on this garbage talent. If you really want that extra AP, get some enchants, change some gems, it will not be hard to get, trust me.
评论来自
WarriorsFtw
I didn't really focus on ALL of the posts about this but most of them, and I didn't see this question. I know as a prot warrior i should be worried about threat. This enchant would increase my threat through its huge AP increase. The question I would like to know is whether or not this would be worth is for a tank to increase TPS, or would the armor loss from the proc completely cut that away?
评论来自
gapamen
well i use Berserking on my Rogue, in HC is not so imba,
"i got it olny on my off-hand atm"
bet in 25 man, it is on 70% at the time " On Boss's "
so i say get it if your rogue and raid 25 man, it will help you
评论来自
Alpzan
Does this enchant work for us Druid cats?
Since we are technically not using our weapon when attacking..
评论来自
334159
Does anyone know if it works for druids like mongoose currently does?
评论来自
140733
Can this be placed on an artifact item when equipped on a char that is 60+? I'm not familliar with how the heriloom items work.
评论来自
202925
TG Fury Warrior w/improved berserker stance
+
Mirror of Truth
proc
+
Darkmoon Card: Greatness
proc
+
2 x
Berserking
on 2h proc
+
Recklessness
= ZOMG DPS!
评论来自
352919
can special weapon attacks proc this? like divine storm and crusader strike? or is it just white damage
评论来自
Wilderness
This enchant is going to be substantially cheaper with the release of 3.2 and the ability to get 4-5 shards from a single normal run, and more than that on heroic.
评论来自
340846
My question is a bit different. For Warrior as i am, what should i have on my 2h wp in PvP?
Berserking (+400AP) or
Executioner (+120ArP -->+10% in battle stance = 132/12.3 -->10.7% ignore armor)?
Think that
Berserking
--> 400/14*3.6 -->
102dmg in 3.6 speed
And
Executioner
-->
10.7% ignore armor
I don't know the proc rate and I think that 10.7% ignore is better than 100 dmg in pvp..
评论来自
330224
does this work if u use it on hunter two 1handed weapons and only attack by ranged attacks?
评论来自
467328
Nope. It will not work.
评论来自
516431
could this be used for tanking? or would there be to much armor lost?
评论来自
pnkflffytutu
so... i have looked and noone has said if this works with range attacks
评论来自
564440
This enchant just reduce your armor for 5 % and will give you 400 ap
评论来自
466614
Testing in patch 3.3.5 + 4.0.1 Berserking has an internal CD of 60 seconds and a uptime of 15 seconds, Regardless of attacks used to proc it, Once procced its a 15 second buff duration and a 60 second CD, no matter what attacks you use after the 15 seconds has passed nothing can refresh its 60 second internal cool down.
As a paladin (giving that the 15 second duration and a 60 second CD) and 610 haste (24.18% increased weapon swing speed) 2h Massacre is the better enchant. Apon testing using auto attack only I was able to produce 27 attacks in 60 seconds, and 7 attacks in 15 seconds. Mathematically this worked out to:
27 x 110 = 2970 (Massacre), vs 7 x 400 = 2800 (Berserking).
This means the +110 attack power generated by massacre is superior to the attack power generated by berserking in the durations specified.
And for those cataclsm heads, using blessing of might which now gives 10% to attack power heres the maths:
110 + 10% = 121, 400 + 10% = 440
27 x 121 = 3267 (Massacre), vs 7 x 440 = 3080 (Berserking)
If you like simple maths:
15 x 400 = 6000 attack power, (Berserking). 60 x 110 = 6600 attack power, (Massacre).
评论来自
308637
I may be crazy to have done it, but I enchanted my tanking weapon with this a couple weeks ago and have only seen posititve outcome from it.
I was using accuracy for hit/crit, but I'm over hit cap without that, and felt as though the other tank enchants were crappy.
I haven't seen much difference in loss of armour, and have upped my threat and added dps to raid.
granted, my gear is mostly 264 and my hp/armour are pretty OP for current normal raids, but I like having te extra boost in threat and think this is worth getting for tanks.
I have found that I can put a lot of dps gear on in 5 mans now and only plow through them faster.
I made a 5 man set with dps trinkets, libram, rings, and such while remaining def cap.
wowheros.com lowers your score becuase they consider it an unpropper enchant, if you care about that. But the GS addon doesn't pick up on enchants or gemming in game, so no issues there.
I guess I'd like to know if anyone else has used this for tanking, or might try it out with me to see if they like it too.
Thanks,
评论来自
131684
Well first of all, any plate dps with a threat stance can tank a 5 man heroic.
Second of all, your gonna have problems raiding (ICC / RS). Unless you have a guild full of Kingslayer healers that faceroll and don't care.
even then, iffy at best. go for Blade Ward / Blood Drain. And if its threat generation your after - Mongoose. its a fact.
评论来自
775879
Confirmed this can be used on 1H and 2H weapons :)
评论来自
216030
This still procs at 85, and still provides 400 AP, at one time as a ret paladin it refreshed about 5 times in a row, and seemed like it was hardly down for more than 10 seconds.
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