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评论来自
wrongwayassassin
Drops from Sartharion in The Obsidian Sanctum, 25 man version
评论来自
259036
Better shoulders for tanking than T7 because of expertise in my opinion.
评论来自
264813
great for rogues.. how about for hunters? i just did OS heroic and a hunter won them, ^&*!ed me off.
(this is a serious question please leave me an answer..)
评论来自
258017
No, they're not made for hunters at all. Expertise has no affect on ranged abilities, so they'll just be stacking extra stats. And, it's bad for hunters because. It's leather. They never learn..
评论来自
193614
If I was a druid tank (I hope you were referring to a druid tank in your post...), I wouldn't chose these over
Valorous Dreamwalker Shoulderpads
seeing as they have less agility, stamina and missing that all important socket! Especially not if you'd lose a set bonus. By all means, upgrade if you have lvl 200 shoulders, but don't downgrade a set-bonus :x
评论来自
Djuntas
According to emeraldnet there 1# in-game for kitty DPS.. dunno about that tbh. They are prolly better if you aint got a DPS enchanted and gemmed valoruos shoulders.
Wich you should get imo via badges. About 3 raid weeks for 60 valor badges or so :)
评论来自
Dens2000
Basing my comments on "the Roguecraft Spreadsheet" featured here:
http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t27244-roguecraft_spreadsheet/
This shoulder item is the best for a rogue so far when the Tier 7 bonus isn't being taken into account.
These offer a huge +1.03% DPS increase from Trollwoven Spaulders compared to Valorous Bonescythe Pauldrons increase of +0.82% DPS. Clearly you would pick the Tier item if the set bonus is at stake but taking into account the individual item Concealment Shoulders would be better.
This is clearly due to the fact that Expertise and Attack Power scale better for rogues on this item than Haste and Crit do on the Tier 7.
- Denisius of Eonar EU
评论来自
123233
Lost to a huntard today. all you hunters, stay the %^&* away from these. Horrible of you to even think to roll on those when i have a blue and these are a huge upgrade. Thanx alot hunters.
评论来自
182958
While you're right that these are not for Hunters, you're wrong by pointing out leather as being a valid reason. In TBC, every Rogue tier set had gear that would've been more valuable for Hunters (and the non-tier set is what they ended up taking, because they got all the mana they needed from ShadowPriests). Armor class has little effect on non-tanks, since things like cleaves are avoidable, and a Hunter is never in melee range. This is why you see Paladins and Shamans taking cloth slot items, all that matters is the stats. That still happens in WotLK, especially Hunters who do not take Careful Aim.
Don't be simple-minded, if the stats on an item result in an upgrade, it's an upgrade. Nobody likes a loot !@#$%.
Another example being
http://ptr.cuckhead.com/?item=40541#comments
, best Melee DPS gloves in the game, although they are leather
评论来自
Blinco123
Slightly better dps increase from the trollwoven shoulders.
评论来自
264813
nobody has seemed to mention the fact that HUNTERS DON'T NEED EXPERTISE so i say please, let the melee have these :)
评论来自
326915
Would expertise on a hunter have any affect on their pet's damage or dps? I know that still doesn't make a difference on whether or not they should roll on expertise gear, seeing as almost all hunter dps comes from the hunter himself. But does that affect the pet, or do they have their own stat-set.
评论来自
agentex50
I hate how people say all gear that feral druids and enchancement shammys can use is NOT for hunters. Seriously, if a enchancement shammy can roll on Kel Thuzads Reach, a hunter should be able to as well. Same for druids that wont let a hunter roll on Black Ice! there IS such thing as multi class loot!
Yes it is true that there are many moronic hunters who WILL roll on Colossal Skull Clad Cleaver. that is unacceptable, but there are also Shammys that will roll on pure huntard weaps, just because they 'look sick'. seriously if its not a true upgrade dont even bother rolling on something that is an upgrade for someone else! i would NEVER roll against a druid whom this was a true upgrade for! but many players will be fully naxx geared by this time and will roll against a hunter for this just because we have a bad rep for being stupid XD
not all hunters are idiots who dont understand the class and roll on all weaps in naxx just because they have agility or 'look cool'.
please consider what ive said here and dont be surprised when a hunter wins this over a fully naxx 25 geared feral druid :)
-- agentex50
p.s.- if someone downgrades this comment pay no attention as its probably a fellow hunter who is insulted by me calling them an idiot for rolling on the Cleaver from H HoL. :P
评论来自
agentex50
As much as i would love these for my SV hunter, its best to stay with Spaulders of the Black Arrow, from Ebon Blade rep. Especially as these are MEANT for druids and rogues. If a hunter rolls on these, and they already have the aforementioned rep reward, just act as if they never rolled. Taking these from a druid or rogue is called being a loot %^&*!
funny thing is that lots of people will roll for loot that is a downgrade for them, but they want it because its Epic. Pretty lame reason if you ask me lol
Im a diehard hunter, but im not stupid XD
im sorry, i may have been a too harsh.but these really are not hunter shoulders.
评论来自
Deadrune
Hunters need to stack expertise in order to become better experts in "Huntardery".
评论来自
144063
lol hunters dont need expertise they need hit rating, .... however to say a hunter shouldnt roll on leather... is like saying a boomkin shouldnt roll on cloth.. or a holy paladin shouldnt roll on mail/leather/cloth... or a resto druid shouldnt wear cloth too.. ummm .. dont make any sense
评论来自
Stjimmy
In the current patch, would these be superior to Heroes T7 bonescythe shoulders? I did a dps test, and I got over 300 more dps from T7 then these. :/
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