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评论来自
19793
Running this baby through Bellator's dps spreadsheet. This is currently the best item in game for Blood Elf Ret paladins. Edging out over Cataclysms edge and Torch of the Damned by a considerable dps margin!!! (approx 7dps relative to your gear composition) - Note Cataclysms may turn out better depending on your armor pen values (ie your gear has an armor pen focus....for whatever reason :s )
评论来自
33158
The 53 haste rating gives this an effective attack speed of 3.4 (3.386). With 3/5 Flurry (Arms PvE) that's 2.9 (2.944). Definitely useable for an Arms rotation but I hope you have a low ping. (of course, if you are PvE Arms you are probably wincing at the thought of not using a sword)
Also, the 3.4 effective attack speed kind of gives this axe 138.9 DPS.
评论来自
23731
What kind of enchant would you pref on this one ? If you were a retri paladin that is.
Sav? Mongoose? Exc?
评论来自
Morithain
Here's a pic of it from MMO Champion:
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/thebladeofharbingers.jpg
评论来自
106004
Its speed is a little too fast for pvp warriors, but for non-blacksmiths ,it's still fine.
And i think most hunters would prefer
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=34014
..
评论来自
129950
What do u guys think is better for bgs and arena, This axe or Gorehowl from karazhan since gorehowl has more stats but less dps... ?
评论来自
103483
For a warr.
This Axe is more PVE than PvP , while i agree that PvE is more into swords , this Axe is almost useless in PvP simply for the lack of stamina.
评论来自
42591
i was hoping for a alliance paladin weapon.. but this weapons fails in my eyes...
since we alliance don't have seal of blood, we cannot take the most advantage of it.. and crusader strike damage is greatly determined by the speed of the weapon...
would you prefer a instant 3.8 weapon attack that does more damage? or
a instant 3.4 weapon attack that does some damage...
this weapon favors specifically only "blood elf paladins" and their seal of blood.. and maybe for hunters, if they don't have the pvp one..
overall, nice weapon, but imo, not worth 150 badge of justice if you are alliance paladin.... unless 2.4. gives alliance paladins seal of blood ability also.
评论来自
71213
I am finding it hard to understand why some people think this isn't a superior weapon for a pvp specced warrior. It has a huge damage range, lots o crit, haste that stacks with flurry, not to mention warriors that go 2h axe get an extra 5% chance to crit, which has been alot better pvp for me than swords. Sure it isn't as slow as some could be, but look at the top end damage!!!
评论来自
44678
blade of harbingers would be prefered for pve with haste rating, more crit and more ap. it'd be the best 2h stat stick if you have good hit rating already.
Provided you're at the hit cap, it's the second best stat stick behind Shivering Felspine. (and by a fairly wide margin I might add)
评论来自
Deadvine
I was wondering why this is so great for Belfs in particular?
I have a Belfadin and I'm considering saving the badges for this thing.
评论来自
129327
this axe looks awesome, i better start farming badges so i can get it when 2.4 comes out, however i've got to wonder if it would be better then gorehowl on my ret pally...
评论来自
Manestone
From the perspective of my dps warrior. I think I would just stick to
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=28436
Then again that may be because I put a bit of work into my Bloodmoon and don't want there to suddenly be a Badge item thats better /cry
Also I <3 3.7 as opposed to 3.5
评论来自
crohnoes
This is the stuff every BM hunter dreams about. Haste rating is point-for-point the overall best DPS boosting stat for a 1 steady shot to 1 auto shot rotation. A slow weapon + haste rating outperforms a "fast" (2.6-2.7 speed) weapon + agility as long as your steady shots do not clip your auto shots.
Thoridal hasted down to 2.6 speed before talents and quiver is what every BM hunter desires!
http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/ptr/24/sunwell/items/thoridal.jpg
评论来自
FoWL
Nice DPS weapon but lack of stamina makes me leery to want to switch to it. Losing anywhere from 49-69 490 to 690 HP's is a large dent. Yet the new druid staff has similar DPS with the built in attack power and 780 (More for bear) HP's? The crit rating is lower and no haste but still a serious stamina addition of at least 40-49 should be added to the weapon. Not everyone likes to run around with a big painstick and no hitpoints to take a return swing.
评论来自
94339
Great pve dps weapon for a ret pally, arms fury warrior, or enhancement shaman, really bad pvp weapon.
评论来自
135195
Hi guys,
currently using Bloodmoon on my Arms (33/28/0) warrior
think this weapon is worth the swoping?
main doubt is ofcz the weapon speed, although i currently overuse slam which is an insta attack;
highest damage is almost the same so i guess no real benefit from there, but speed swinger and effective haste are puzzling me a bit
comments?
评论来自
139377
Wow thats a bad A axe
good attack power too
评论来自
118464
Anyone know if enchant animations (i.e. Mongoose) are visible on this axe or not?
评论来自
Mitosis
It's pretty small for a 2H :( Reminds me of gruul's axe, except this one's good.
评论来自
MetalGenocide
Is it just me? or is that Axe damn ugly?
Still, I think the Brutal Gladiator Sword is ugly too (the coloring is all wrong, hope Apolyon is colored better.)
I wonder what the BGMace will look like. And its PvE equivilent..
评论来自
byoonie
At first I was unsure about this weapon because it has no stamina. I recently aquired the
Axe of the Gronn Lords
so going from a whopping 66 stamina to zero is a substantial difference. However, one thing I do not like about my current 2h axe is the lack of crit. This weapon will help a lot. I can always use it when the extra HP isn't absolutely necessary. Since I'm a BM Hunter, the haste rating will be lovely as well. ^^
Personally, I'll get this after I get
this
xbow and some of the new badge armor. Then I'll save up for this bad boy.
评论来自
147362
is this better for a warrior than a season 1 2-h weapon? you will lose stam and resil but will haste and dps make up for it?
评论来自
Raziel
I'm wondering if this would be a decent upgrade for a hunter with
Trollbane
/
S3 Axe
?
And btw I'm using the new
Crossbow of Relentless Strikes
.
Mokk
- Orc Hunter | Ahn'Qiraj EU (PvP)
评论来自
Nelfshane
Figured it should be noted as to where else you can purchase this weapon, and the rest of the Quel'Danas Badge loot. There is a guy in Shatrah behind the portal that leads to Quel that has the title of weapons and armorsmith. He also sells the items. Figured I'd state this as I don't believe it has been anywhere on the site.
评论来自
157534
Let's see how this item works for a PvE Arms warrior who has to clear Brutallus each week.
The spec is, of course, 33/28 with 3/5 flurry. This includes full bloodfrenzy in addition to other abilities, and is the spec you want your first dps warrior to have in your raid.
In order to maintain a "perfect" rotation, you need an autoattack > Slam > MS > autoattack > Slam > WW > autoattack > Slam > MS > autoattack > Slam > Open GCD >.
When you get heroism/bloodlust, you are going to clip your autoattacks, so you need to either spam execute, or HS off rage and change cycles. Let's not even concern ourselves with that. We need to see if this weapon will work for the first 80% of the fight.
Remember, 15.76 Haste Rating = 1% Haste. Haste is multiplicative.
During 80% of the fight, if you are actually killing Brutallus, you have following haste buffs up almost continuously:
1) 3/5 Flurry (15% haste)
2) Drums of Battle (80 Haste Rating)
3) Haste from this weapon (53 Haste Rating)
This gives you 133 Haste Rating from items, or 8.439% haste.
Assuming you have avoided ALL haste on items you are wearing, your speed will be:
1.15 x 1.08439 = 1.247% Haste
3.5 ÷ 1.247 =
2.807 weapon speed
Since you cannot go below 2.5 without clipping your next autoattack, and you need a pinch of slack for latency, this weapon in a fully decked out melee group should give you "perfect" 2.5 second cycles with 307ms worth of slack for latency.
This is an excellent weapon for an Arms PvE warrior. I think it probably beats CE due to the lack of stamina and focus on dps stats.
评论来自
ir0npanda
Compared to bloodmoon
, this is a complete sidegrade and more or less a bad use of badges, until you have all the other badge loot you want.
The AP and crit are about the same. Damage range IS the same. Mortal Strike, Whirlwind, and Overpower (not something you use to DPS but when soloing you do) will have EXACT same damage.
Slam
, however is not normalised like those 3 attacks. It
will do LESS damage with blade of harbingers than with Bloodmoon
because of the faster speed. The difference may range from as high as ~4.5% with 4000 raidbuffed AP. If slam is 35-45% of your Damage, there goes 2% or so of your total damage
What do you gain then? Decently higher white DPS and a slightly faster slam rotation. However, the more haste you have the more difficult it is to correctly predict your slam timing in raids. So take this small gain with a grain of salt.
Overall, not much if any of an upgrade over bloodmoon. Better spend badges on the other options
评论来自
157534
Bloodmoon will produce no where near as much dps as this weapon for a slam warrior in PvE.
http://www.theoryspot.com/forums/damage-per-second-discussion/35257-2-hand-ms-fury-slam-pve-dps.html
TLDR version: Slower weapon speed is not better for a slam warrior as long as your cycle doesn't fall below 2.5s + latency + reaction time. Even though the hit’s will be weaker, you will increase the number of slams (which are your most rage efficient ability) because of compressed cycle time.
As long as you have the raid buffs and gear to ensure that each white swing generates the rage to fuel your cycle, this is a fine weapon to use.
评论来自
ir0npanda
if you have any haste at all besides drums, you will clip slam rotations with this weapon.
If you are in sunwell you almost certainly have moderate haste unless you go very much out of your way to avoid it.
With bloodmoon, on the other hand, you can benefit from moderate amounts of haste due to slow speed
评论来自
138910
yummy got this blade on my belf pally and mongoosed it up....
(before you say anything like ZUMG YOU LEIK NEED TO GET EXECUTIONER ENCHANT!1111!!!!... i prefer mongoose+haste for raids. when mongoose procs i am over 50% chance to crit... so yea... get off my nuts :)
评论来自
kupid
would this be worth it for an enhancement shaman to pvp with
评论来自
160193
This should be the last choice of PvP weapon for warriors, if you happen to be so lazy to honor farm and get s2 sword/mace. If you are an Orc warrior, then I guess it is understandable SOMEWHAT, but it is still something you shouldn't take to arenas with you.
On the other hand, any non-human paladins just got their free s3-equivalent weapon right here for you.
评论来自
81465
How would this be for an enhancement shaman?
评论来自
Maritas
okay, I just picked up this puppy last night. I'm a hybrid warrior 33/28 and I'm working to replace my pvp gear with pve - it's coming along nicely. So my question is this... Mongoose over Executioner?
I do some times off tank when forced so I'm leaning more towards Executioner but it doesn't stack like mongoose and I love the way mongoose procs so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
评论来自
181331
My question on this weapon looking foward to the future is how does everyone think 2 of these will be for titan grip leveling?
评论来自
133573
As an warrior i would like to see this axe mostly on Hunters. For warrior (even an orc with axe spec like me) this is not so great thing. I love having an axe but not this one. seems like they forgot us warriors in this patch (thinking of axes) :DD
评论来自
biggiy05
How much of an upgrade if any is this from the S3 hunter axe?
评论来自
205745
Ok, so I'm a BM hunter that just started doing Kara and Heroic's for badges.
I have the merciless crossbow and the merciless 2h axe...
Do I go for that sick badges Xbow first or this axe?
评论来自
150817
Is this weapon better that Dual wielding 2 breeching comets gemmed with wicked noble topaz and greater agility enchants on them?
评论来自
94517
So I'm guessing nobody realized that this is infact Blade of HarBINGERs, not The Blade of Harbringers; common mistake, move along. :-)
评论来自
Apollion
With the new buff to Fury (5% hit penalty down from 12-15%), dual wielding these is godly.
Only thing that saddens me is the loss of the expertise bonus when wielding swords or maces (human).
Also of note is that the Axe spec is going to be nerf (or already has).
评论来自
179229
i would say that this one are one of the best weps in game for TG fury, the insane critt and high dps makes it better than any other 2h wep eccept catalysm edge and the one dropping from kiljaeden, im getting my second tthis week, cant wait^^ (even tho TG dps aint so great until we can get deep wounds to....)
评论来自
Contender019
Har har har.
评论来自
maeltum
Anyone have a 4.0.1 price on this weapon with Justice Points?
评论来自
Seahorselol
the best looking axe evah!
评论来自
145786
I'll be getting this asap so that I can have it for transmortification purposes!
评论来自
250679
Has this been removed, changed to another vendor, or does it require some here unlisted precondition to buy this? Because both those vendors only offer me about half of the listed gear. This Axe is one ofthe missing things.
评论来自
mummer
Can you still buy it?
And if so, where?
评论来自
Deathydeath
Storm, Earth and Fire... Heed my call!
评论来自
Enue
The following item is purchased from Anwehu in Shattrath City , There is currently a bug with the vendor , making this item not appear while your Class specific loot is selected in the top right corner. Set that to ALL instead of your class only , and then it should be on page 5/6 . Hope this helps.
评论来自
Hishiryu
Where is this weapon, Smith Hauthaa and Anwehu, only sell Scryer's Blade of Focus and Gavel of Naaru Blessings, the dps weapon are gone...
评论来自
373649
For those having trouble not finding this item in Shattrath(as I did), make sure as a DK or plate wearer you're changing the filter in the dropdown menu to show all.
评论来自
wisedada
In case anyone wondering, this weapon is wielded by
Lord Afrasastrasz
.
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