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评论来自
MasterLoco
Drops from Jan'alai, The Dragonhawk Avatar... the 3rd boss in Zul'aman if you follow the order to save the prisoners from being sacrificed.
评论来自
59215
This item is a slight upgrade to the Talon of the Tempest (
http://cuckhead.com/?item=30723
) from Doomwalker, assuming you're socketing the Talon with +9 spell damage gems. If you need those sockets for more hit or crit or whatever, YMMV. +4 spell hit, +1 spell crit, +5 spell damage, +6 MP5 compared to a talon with 2 runed living rubies.
评论来自
95102
This. Is. What. Ele Shamans. Have. Been. Looking. For. People will say "Ya, whoever can benefit from +spell dmg and who can use the dagger gets it.....etc" but THIS should be designated to an elemental shaman over any other caster in a raid group. Why you may ask?
1. The biggest reason I can see is well, first off, it's a dagger...duh. There are a TON of spell dmg swords that are fairly easily accessable out there for locks/mages, but the only real option an ele sham has before this (in raids) is the mindblade and farming that thing just gets rediculous....
2. The main thing that comes out to me about this weap is the 6mp5/spell crit combo. There is *one* other caster dagger in the WHOLE game which has mp5 and it's off Azurgos while being a lvl 60 item....so yea...not great at 70. Ele shams LOVE mp5 and crit, it's really what we rely on in raids because our spells and class in general are so mana inefficient (sure it changes in 2.3 a bit, but having no evocate or life tap, we'll never be anywhere near where mages/warlocks shadow priests in levels of mana efficiency).
3. Blizz promised ele shams some itemization in Zul'Aman and I believe this is the main present they are giving us. We deserve it...:D?
4. It's pretty ugly and could only really look decent on a troll shammy :P.
There will of course be people saying the whole "anyone who can use should take" dealio, but I'll direct them to the *best* caster item (along with the coolest looking as well...) in ZA the Blade of Twisted Visions off Zul'jin or sword in Gruul, sword in SSC....so on so on. Or for that mater, the large number of caster staves that are out there that no *good* ele sham should use. So i'll just go on and put it out there...
ELE SHAM ITEM
评论来自
9667
Named for Wubwub, EJ's sexy Shaman :P
评论来自
34204
"1. The biggest reason I can see is well, first off, it's a dagger...duh. There are a TON of spell dmg swords that are fairly easily accessable out there for locks/mages, but the only real option an ele sham has before this (in raids) is the mindblade and farming that thing just gets rediculous...."
They get swords, you get maces. As for your mindblade argument, how many spell damage swords are in Karazhan? None, only the staff, dagger, and off-hands, all of which any caster in the game save Paladins can use. If you didn't notice, there is also a spell damage mace that drops from ZA that Mages and Warlocks can't roll on.
"2. The main thing that comes out to me about this weap is the 6mp5/spell crit combo. There is *one* other caster dagger in the WHOLE game which has mp5 and it's off Azurgos while being a lvl 60 item....so yea...not great at 70. Ele shams LOVE mp5 and crit, it's really what we rely on in raids because our spells and class in general are so mana inefficient (sure it changes in 2.3 a bit, but having no evocate or life tap, we'll never be anywhere near where mages/warlocks shadow priests in levels of mana efficiency)."
Mana efficiency isn't just for Shaman. Shadow priests who are depended on to supply mana to other party members? Moonkin? And as for crit, how can you say you need that more than a Mage, Destruction Warlock, or Balance Druid? You get potentially more to start off with from talents; also almost all your mail gear has spell crit on it; please tell me how much Moonkin gear has spell crit on it. Hint: it's not a whole lot.
"3. Blizz promised ele shams some itemization in Zul'Aman and I believe this is the main present they are giving us. We deserve it...:D?"
No, it's the spell damage mace and the mail gear that was promised as "Elemental Shaman only" (Druids, Paladins, and Priests can still use the mace) gear. If this was meant for only Elemental Shaman, they clearly would have restricted it to being used by them.
In short, news flash: your class isn't the only one that needs loots. Save the "OMG THIS ITEM FOR THIS CLASS" arguments for Thottbot, k? Thanks.
评论来自
34204
To Xombo: Shaman are fine with weapon itemization. You get all the daggers and staves that Mages and Warlocks do; yes, they get swords, but you similarly get maces; that was my point earlier, they balance out in the end. True, there are some swords in which there is no mace counterpart, but that is a reason why maces are being added with this instance...Karazhan reflects this in the fact that there are not only no spell damage maces, but no swords as well.
You say that Karazhan doesn't matter because many guilds are progressed past it, but it does matter because the classes that are doing 25-mans and that will be doing Zul'Aman will be in Karazhan gear, and if Karazhan gear is fine, then in a perspective prior to 2.3 I don't understand what the problem is that you're trying to point out.
My other point is that this is a dagger, not a mace; again if it was intended for Elemental Shaman it would be a mace, and the drop from ZA that actually is a mace would not be. It doesn't make sense to make this item as a dagger - which Mages, Warlocks, Priests, Druids, and Shaman can use - if it's more heavily intended for one of the five...
Spell crit is used not only by Shaman, but by Mages, Druids, and Destruction Warlocks as well.
Mp5 is also often desirable by Priests and Druids. Also, I don't think a mp5 value of six is significant enough to call a class distinction on the weapon.
Why would this item be harder to replace? There are better daggers and staves in the game than this weapon that have similar attribution of stats.
Although I wouldn't say the Amani Punisher (
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=33283
) is better in every respect than this dagger, it is not horrible:
Compared to this dagger:
+7 spell hit
+30 stamina
-20 spell crit
-6 mana per 5
Yes, it is less damage output; but the mace is a better option for PvP if the Arena one-hands are not an option for you because of the large difference in Stamina (as in, you're trying to get the armor first). As to what you said about spell hit; every class gets spell hit from talents, not just Shaman, and you ideally (at least, it doesn't hurt to) want to reach the cap of 16%; if you used Totem of Wrath that means you need to gain 5% more spell hit, or 63 (I think) rating; the Elemental Tier 4 set only has 39...so unless all your other slots contain spell hit, spell hit on a weapon causes you to not need to enchant or gem it.
评论来自
Geno
Apparently lost in the above debate...
An excellent caster weapon all around - It gives a solid bunch of stats, which lets you be a little more lenient overall. Instead of grabbing a weapon from Kara, SSC, or TK with straight +Crit, +Hit, or whatever, you can get everything at once with this. Honestly, this is an awesome weapon even into BT / Hyjal for most casters.
Besides, it's Chromagg's Claw mark two. Who doesn't want a giant razor nail!
评论来自
larkhainan
There's absolutely no reason to have sustained arguments over items on wowhead. For one, no matter how glorious, beautiful and perfect your merits are ... We're not actually the people in your raid group.
We can't determine if you get loot.
In terms of the item's stats, it has an even mix of multiple caster stats. The lack of stamina and resilience mean you will be unlikely to desire this for pvp. As such in almost every case (beyond, I suppose, moonkin) one of the stats on it will not be fully effective for your class. Hit isn't so amazing for shamans and shadow priests, for example, since they cap easily. MP5 isn't as amazing for mages but remains excellent for the previous classes. So on and so forth. Anything stated should really bear in mind it's just a very nice weapon and should go to whoever wins the roll, needs it the most or what have you.
Also it's worth bearing in mind this is only 7 ilvls (a raid tier, generally speaking) above the ubiquitous Nathrezim Mindblade.
评论来自
50728
Good to see a PvE caster weapon sacrificing stamina for mana regen. Also, since no caster talent scales with haste (while crit sure does) this one is better than Zul'jin's sword, hands down.
评论来自
82881
As a 0/21/40 gnomelock, this weapon made me drool when it dropped. Rolled a 95 and this puppy was mine. Yeah it doesn't have stamina which warlocks like, but I will find a way to manage still having more health than all the other casters in raids :-P
Thanks to the beauty, I now don't have to cross my fingers and spend high DKP on the sword off Leo. Nor do I really need to worry about doing arena just to get a good PVE caster weapon. This little gem has so many awesome stats packed into a one hander. I recommend anyone with a competent guild, to run ZA lots. Not only for this dagger, but for other nice caster gear (see Hood of Hexing for one example)
Not to mention it has a unique look and will get lots of attention from friends and fellow raiders. Definitely worth going for!
评论来自
116147
Shamans and druids rejoice, with the buff to the sword off Zul'jin, our clothie friends will now be passing this awesome dagger to us!
<end sarcasm>
评论来自
Kaitain
Given the upcoming extreme nerf to Life Tap, as a lock i wouldn't worry about the lack of stamina at all. Locks now need at least as much mana as they have HP.
评论来自
141790
Who the hell is Wub?
评论来自
NightmareMJ
This is the best Balance druid or Holy Dps priest(aka non-shadow spec dps priest) in the game as far as 1-handers go, while in staves it is out matched in BT and sunwell, for its very balanced stats,mp5, high int, and a mix of spell hit and spell crit(which is vital for a main hand if using a one hander as a boomkin/lawlsmiter).
Notably hard to get drop for you if your either spec/class though >.<
评论来自
93191
Hunter item?
评论来自
166605
/script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Shift-click this to place a link into a chat message: \124cffa335ee\124Hitem:30910:0:0:0:0:0:0:0\124h\124h\124r"); Is a sword Thats why he said shamans cant use swords
评论来自
Enthorn
With patch 3.0 changes to spell hit, Fire Mages will want to take this over
Blade of Twisted Visions
. While the latter has 12 more spell damage, and 21 haste, the hexblade has 13 hit, which is undeniably better than 12 spell damage, due to the way specs are turning out.
That is, it's been shown in DPS tests using Rawr, across the board, that Clearcasting specs fair better than Elemental Precision specs. This means 3% less hit, however, and another 1% due to the 99% gap closing (it's now possible to obtain 100%, therefore mages need 17% hit).
Critical strike rating is also arguably favored point for point over haste due to increased chances of MoE (mana returns on crits), and more Hot Streak procs. While it is arguable that haste also increases the amount of Hot Streak procs (due to more spells being cast), it doesn't increase it nearly as much. Your chance per spell is still the same, regardless of how many you cast or how fast you cast them. (Not to mention the Mp5 bonus, however minimal.)
Compared to Maelstrom's Fury, however, it is debatable. Maelstrom's Fury packs a solid 19 spell damage lead over Hexblade. It sports slightly higher crit (but as for MoE, the Mp5 return on hexblade still beats it). However, 19 spell damage is easily better than 13 hit rating. If anything, you'd be better off getting hit rating from gems, where you can go point to point against damage. That means swapping out a 12 damage gem for a 5 hit / 6 damage gem. In that case, you're trading 6 damage for 5 hit. Whereas with hexblade, you'd be trading 6 damage for 3.15 hit.
Also note that all of these weapons, including Sunflare from Kil'Jaeden, become completely obsolete at level 80.
Flameheart Spell Scalpel
, for instance, is a direct upgrade to
Sunflare
.
Hexblade and Maelstrom's Fury are replaced even before that, at level 77, with
Saronite Spellblade
.
评论来自
233028
Just got this to drop last night for my lock...sweetness on a stick.
评论来自
230898
Just got this an hour ago. Very nice blade.
评论来自
218473
Trivia: Appears to be the dual wielded weapon of the Amani'shi Tempest...nothing much I just made an observation
评论来自
Borsalino
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