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评论来自
frmorrison
Great for Elemental Shaman, Tier 5 Quality as well.
评论来自
17976
Anyone know if the socket bonus is going to be changed in an upcoming patch? Agility doesn't strike me as being incredibly useful for an elemental shaman.
评论来自
7939
I doubt you would be going after the socket bonus, seeing as how 8 spell crit gems are way superior over other gems.
评论来自
Mapex
On PTR 2.10, the +Agility socket bonus is being changed to +Spell Damage and +Spell Crit for the whole set. +3 Spell Crit for the Belt, +3 or 4 Spell Damage for BP and Bracers
评论来自
defektunge
The socket bonuses on the 2.1.0 PTR are +2 damage and healing on the bracers, +3 spell crit rating on the belt, and +5 damage and healing on the chest. The set bonus is unchanged.
评论来自
Tarrek
This is almost identical to the T5 Cataclysm Chestpiece. Netherstrike has:
+3 stamina
+12 crit rating
-3 intellect
-13 spell power
Sockets: BYB instead of BYY
评论来自
Roulk
I'm putting Potent Noble Topaz and Dazzling Talasite into all my Netherstrike, this is the best way to get the most out of the slots and keep the socket bonus.
I've also seen some people just stack +spell damage (Runed Living Ruby), I prefer the former.
You could also go for Radiant Talasite, I find the 20 penetration to cloak enchant is more than enough.
An interesting point is that if you had already crafted and socketed pre 2.1, you get to keep both bonuses... I had already done my bracers, so now they have +spell damage and +agility... just a novelty really.
评论来自
Arandmoor
Crafting the full Netherstrike set requires:
18x Heavy Knothide Leather
72x Nether Dragonscales
36x Primal Mana
36x Primal Air
3x Primal Nether
...good luck.
评论来自
29549
Compare this to the season 2 arena gear now available:
http://www.cuckhead.com/?item=32009
I don't think I would do leatherworking just to get this chest or even the set at this point in time.
Grinding out the arena points is alot easier, less time consuming than leveling leatherworking, and it allows you the opportunity to pick another more useful profession.
评论来自
73456
I hear alot of people complaining that leveling leatherworking is a pain. I didn't find it that bad (and I'm not exalted with Sha'tar nor Keepers of time), and while gaining arena points (next week I have enough for gloves), I have leveled leatherworking and made the bracers and belt. So by combining methods of getting gear, I can gear up quicker. I don't regret leveling leatherwork for this imba set.
评论来自
117201
I think its odd that blizz wants you to farm 36 primal air for a set meant for a spec that can't kill air elementals. As elemental shaman it is almost impossible, and it takes ages to farm primal air.
- Yes, i know you can farm other primals, sell em and buy primal air. But it would be so much easier if blizz changed it. Leveling lw was hard enough pre 2.3 or whatever patch it was.
It took me a few months to get my set as my mainspec is resto, so i had to spec enhancement to farm mats for my offspec gear. Meh, i couldn't be arsed, so i ended up farming primal air as resto, whenever i had time.
评论来自
51867
Which stat is most important to stack depends on your purpose. Here is some math to help you determine for yourself.
In terms of dps:
The relative value of 1 spell dmg = (1 + x/y)(z), where x = crit %, y = 1 (if crit = dmg x2) or 2 (if crit = dmg x 1.5), and z = % of spell dmg received. So, the value of 1 spell dmg, at 40% crit and double dmg, receiving 100% of spell dmg as benefit, is 1.4. At 25% crit, it would be 1.25.
The relative value of 1 crit rating = x/22y, where x = avg dmg per cast, and y = 100 (if crits double damage) or 200 (if crits = dmg x 1.5) So, the value of 1 crit rating at 1500 avg damage, with the double damage talent, is 0.68, about half as valuable as 1 spell dmg.
As far as dps goes, +spell dmg is clearly the winner. With spells that get less benefit per spell dmg, such as shocks, crit rating has an edge as your avg dmg per cast reaches around 1k. However, shocks comprise a relatively low percentage of spells cast.
Now, in situations where mana efficiency is the issue, crit is the thing to stack. Without going into all the detailed equations (they are a bit over my head at this time, I'll have to check back later) the more crit you have, the more benefit you get per crit, in terms of mana efficiency. This is because the overlapping of clearcasting states is more frequent at higher crit chances. But only to a point, and I believe based on some preliminary scrawlings that 40-45% nat crit chance is optimal for this purpose.
So, if mana efficiency without *extreme* sacrifice of dps is desired, then crit is the stat to stack. However, if dps/burst without regard to mana efficiency is desired, then spell dmg is more effective, unless you already possess an obscene amount of damage (think > 2k non-crit spells, which I don't believe to be achievable, since that's nearly what my 939 spell dmg mage does with AP + bloodgem + frostbolt -- nat is 1600ish).
Lastly, some degree of mana efficiency is derived from stacking spell dmg. Nothing to compare to stacking crit, though. To discover how much mana efficiency an amount of spell dmg would give, divide x/y, where y is the current avg dmg of your main spell, and x is what it would be with the extra +spell dmg. The result is in direct proportion to damage per mana.
EDIT: So many edits lol. I'll just use notepad and ctrl c from now on.
评论来自
FreeLanceTucker
This set is great for PvE. T5 quality gear that can be made before you even begin raiding, that's why it's worth all the effort.
I'm in the middle of making this set because I hate PvP/BGs and my guild is about to begin kara. I have the primal manas, primal nethers.. just farming the primal airs now.
Edit - Finished them ^_^
评论来自
mudbud93
all the netherstrike ( belt, bracer, breastplate) are for shamin. the ebon ( belt, bracer, breastplate) is ment for hunters.
评论来自
Nomobo
The pattern for this stopped being trainable/learnable when Blizz removed specialized leatherworking. At this point (5.1.0) it is not obtainable in-game, unless one had already learned it long ago.
评论来自
Jeolene
Dear Blizz: Put this back in the f@#$ing game. Some of us would like to use it for transmogs and can't do that since you removed the pattern.
评论来自
PenuryPen
Blizz should either bring back the patterns for stuff like this, make it BoE, or if nothing else remove it from the appearances tab.
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